The Lack Of Quality Men Debate 

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When I was younger, I used to be sooo attracted to these type of women. But as I got older, I became more attracted to the ones that may not look as good as these women, but their attitude and humbleness was 100% better. They are the new dimes to me

Let me summarise the whole charade. A man (no matter what his social standing) would 99.9% of the time pick a woman with a part-time job at CVS, who will bring peace, harmony & moral value in his life, over a self-made prima donna making 1000s of $$. These ladies are adrift from reality.

Basically, 37 minutes of two women proving on camera that their love is conditional. Bravo, Hafeez. Amazing how it takes 37 minutes to nicely ask, “ how much he gotta make for you to love him?”

My husband is a mechanic. When I would tell people I got the “oohhhh” like they felt like I could “do better” He is a LEADER, a man of his WORD, hardworking, and always looks out for me. He even fixed my car in the RAIN… and then snuck in a “Can I take you out to dinner” question while fixing my car (the rain dripping on him made him look 🤤) I couldn’t say no 🤣 Anyway, where was I? We got married, opened our OWN mechanic shop 🙌🏽 and now have a son. My man can fix just about anything and that’s something I wanted in someone. I felt that his skills, good money MANAGEMENT, his character, and loyalty were most important. I can’t expect a man to make 3x’s more than me just bc he’s a man. Don’t expect $100,000 figure, a house, and a Mercedes from a man if you can’t even do that on your own. Just like how I see men wanting an hourglass big booty woman but they look like Santa clause’s cousin or want a woman who can cook and clean but don’t know how to fix 💩. Don’t expect something from someone if you can’t even offer it. I heard the women saying “it’s expensive to raise kids” you’re right… it is. I have one. Then you need to do your part too. By saving money anyway you can. Finding sales for food, accept hand me down clothes for kids (they grow so fast and it’s saved us a ton of money) your kid doesn’t need every new toy that comes out. Maybe cut back on your own maintenance (nails, hair, eyelashes, new outfit every week, online purchases) to save money. Get creative. It also takes SACRIFICE in EVERY aspect in life with children not just more money. But who am I? A wife, a mother, someone who owns a house and a business WITH my husband and we’ve been married for almost 10 years. You can take my advise or not but there was no way I was letting a good man go just bc he was a mechanic and not a doctor. Side note ladies. A man can make good money but be in debt, terrible with their finances, and have a bad credit score... then what? This is also someone you do not want to start a family with. You will be greatly disappointed. Should of picked the teacher who was great with kids..... I'm just sayin.

Hilarious that in the age of equality, the standard for an eligible man is higher than its ever been. It’s supposed to be the opposite. These women would’ve turned their noses up at their own fathers and brothers.

This constant need for "more" in American culture is disgusting and exhausting. Saving up, leaving the country living a simple peaceful life is the goal for me

They seem to be unable to separate “the money” from the idea of a person. You literally were asking them JUST about the income and why they can’t accept an average salary guy. They saw that dollar amount and they started to assume negative qualities of that guy into the conversation which shows you what the actual problem is. They are on a high horse (women in general) and most of them will get knocked off of it in their 30s. Love the show!

It blew my mind when you pointed out that most women would rather be single raising kids all by themselves just because a man doesn't make what they want to make, instead of just combining resources to make it easier. The logic is so backwards.

The universal female perspective: "Well, I understand math and logic and limits and sustainability and the concept of civilization requiring compromise...but I just FEEL LIKE I DESERVE MORE."

It's crazy how they can't just say they don't want a good man, they want a good provider. Their priorities are financially/lifestyle focused.

I roll my eyes when I hear someone say “equally yoked” in terms of finances. That term is meant for a Christian marrying a fellow Christian. It’s not meant for hypergamy.

The only men of means that would be into women like this would either be simps, or guys that will most definitely be "exploring their options". When money is this important to you in a relationship, you don't get a relationship of substance.

The fact that they were so shocked seeing that most people make under 70K is wild

It's really sad seeing these 2 women rationalize just wanting men for their money. It's all about the money and lifestyle, not about the character of the man.

Both these women prove his point. They are not listening they are selective hearing. Both will be single. Nothing wrong with that just be ready to share him with every woman. There are good men women ignore cause of finances. I make 80k and I am ok with where I am at. I don't want more money and living comfortably.

Message received for the 1000th time: modern women don't want us they want what we can provide... Thanks for the message ladies, we will adjust and move accordingly. Good luck

"It costs a lot to be alive." No, it costs a lot to always be at a beach in Cali or overseas somewhere taking pics for social media. It doesn't cost that much to LIVE.

“If he doesn’t do better than me, what have he then to offer me?” If he do better then you, why would he choose you? (using your logic)

Facts I’m a school teacher and I told a female she gave me an unimpressed look like I worked at BK or something these females expectations are ridiculous

They want someone who is superior in every way just to get in a relationship and claim they are equal partners..... disgusting.

Ultimately, I've come to understand a few things: 1. that women want to live like privileged single people while married. 2. The value placed behind an "image" of luxury is at an egregious high. 3. Men are only valued for their wallets and ability to procreate. This is tough to listen to, even as a man that makes well over six figures now.

In terms of marriage, the most important question NEVER asked is what do men making over 100k want in women. That’s all that matters. This convo could have lasted 5 minutes at most

These women don't want to good stable genuine relationship. They want an image.

It wasn’t until this kind of content that I even realized this stuff was a thing. My mom always made more then my dad but they both did what they loved and both contributed to bills. People have made love so transactional these days.

I don't understand how an average woman getting an average man is settling.... You are in your own damn lane.

Hafeez said it perfectly..“whatever you value is what you end up getting” you can have the cars, the lifestyle etc… or you can have loyalty, faithfulness etc…but the catch is, you cant have it all…you gotta pick and choose what youre willing accept.

He hit it on the head immediately: “go ahead and value Heigh, money, status, but don’t get mad when he isn’t faithful to you or puts himself first” . Could have ended it right there!

I call cap 🧢🧢🧢. I’m married now with kids but when I was dating I made sure to steer clear of women like this even though I was financially attractive to them. They’re cute but this mindset is poisonous to a marriage and family. Trust, I passed over a lot of attractive, educated women who were my age for my wife who is 7 years younger. They don’t understand their competition. They’re are women out here who are attractive, educated who don’t have unrealistic expectations and 0 to low body counts. The Wall will not treat these women kindly. I put money that they’re both single into their 40s or divorced by then.

Here’s the reality for women; “if you can’t give me the lifestyle that I imagine, then I will not STAY with you.” Nothing else matters to modern women.

.....a guy like myself who does earn that kind of money will NEVER choose someone who thinks like this as a wife 💯

I married a man that made 20k less than me, then I moved and he made more than me for a while - then I started a business and made about 4 times what he made and he is now on track to make more next year. So basically throughout your marriage these numbers change and we need to look at it holistically - we put our money together and grow as a unit. Women today are too materialistic and think life is a reality show but it’s not. It’s working with your partner and loving them whether you’re making more or less than each other and making life work. Good luck to the women holding out for the rich guy and being single forever. I’ll be happily keeping house with my partner and my kids and growing old with my hubby. This is why lots of middle age women are all single and will continue to be so. Sad!

The 'highly desirable men' aren't taken per say, they just do not want to deal with/commit to modern women.

In their 50s, 60s, and 70s, the statement "I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than settle" will ring different and unbearable. For now, they'd rather be single than "settle" and the men they want would rather that too. Yeah, you can blame everyone when you lose out on both but at the end of the day, you will be the one without joy, happiness, or family for half of your life. you know, like in your 60s and 70s when you don't have anyone to wake up to who will make you laugh about nothing and anything, who will tease you or hold your hand on pointless walks. When you don't have anyone to complain to your girlfriends about while they have theirs. When no one says they want to have what you and their grandpa have. Only then will the statement, "I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than settle", ring different and inevitable.

This was exhausting to listen to. Realistically, he won’t meet everything on your list but you won’t meet everything on his list either. Looking for perfection in others without looking inwardly at our inadequacies is so unhealthy. Compromising on things that aren’t correlated with long term happiness in marriage and partnership is not a bad thing. Thank God for growth!

So, they believe they’re “equally yoked” with a $300k a year man “mentally” huh? Umm…no.

I would love to see a 20 year case study on these women. They'll be surely disappointed at what life TRULY has in store for them. Especially the one with the child. 🤦🏽‍♂️

The problem is, is exactly what she said. She feels like she's up here, and most men are down there. That's a narcissistic attitude. And that attitude will cause her to not want to marry. And it would cause an high value man to not want to marry her. If a man has a couple dollars, and some conversation, he will be awarded 10 of these women.

This video reinforces why most good men are withdrawing from dating and marriage.. Good Character, Good Morals, Hard working and Loyalty doesn’t even matter to most women unless that man makes at least $90,000+

Women have priced themselves out of the market . They wanted to party from 18- 30 then they wanted some rich Adonis to sweep them off their feet . By 35 when that hasn’t happened they start blaming men. From 30-40 these women value themselves on the looks they had at 20 add on the money and job they have and expect someone to pay that price. Men don’t care about your job or what u make we care about your loyalty and personality then looks but we don’t expect models most women get a pass mark from men and then it’s about who they are. From what women say they want why would any men trust them when women make it clear if something better comes along they will leave u for that other man . Men married down for 100s of years but women refuse too. So they will end up alone long term but men will still sleep with them just not stay. And too the ladies if u look at a man with less money than u and say “well what do they bring for me”? Well why shouldn’t men with more money than them not think the same ? But these women still think their vagina is valuable even though they gave it away for free for 10 to 20 years and younger more attractive women still will for men aged 30- 50. Until women stop using money and assets to judge men . They will end up alone and the men they want will continue to sleep with women in their 20s and not marry at all or marry a young woman. You made your bed ladies now lay in it

I'm a 38-year-old man. I was a business intelligence contractor before covid. I was making 65K a year and not working full time. Now I'm working full time and making less than 55k at a "JOB." I don't understand how a woman can be sitting there demanding her man make 90K plus and be making less than 48k. Even now, I own my car, have a mortgage on my condo, upgrading my degree without loans.. and have yet to meet a woman who is financially on the same level. What is going on with this generation of women?

Going to college does not mean you will make more. People need to understand that trades are the way to go. I started school for my aesthetics license at 18 years old. I then went to acquire a massage therapist license at 19 years old. I am now starting a job at 20 years old which is my career. I am doing 10 times better than anyone that I know at my age. College is not the way to go for everybody and it should not be the way to go for everybody. I fully believe that if you want to go to college you better be an engineer, doctor, chiropractor, pilot or lawyer. Other than that you have no reason to go waste your money and time on something that is pointless.

My 2 cents: I see a trend that A LOT of these quality men get picked when they are young. While lackadaisical females go around having fun, quality men work. Those females who have wits about them recognize that they are headed for greatness - often lock them down. So, her trust in him is rewarded in marriage to a highly successful man. What these ladies are trying to get, with THIS attitude? Quality men recognize it, and stay the hell away. The answer to the lack of quality men? They aren't lacking in quantity, they simply aren't with you - because you thought you could have your cake and eat it too. It's literally "beat it chick" meme lmao

The fact that they were disgusted when looking at the median income chart is such a turn off. What happened to make women so arrogant it’s ridiculous

This is simply a combination of a lot of men not reaching their full potential and a lot of women having unreasonably high standards.

"I won't settle for an average man" -an average woman

I hate this society. Everyone is so obsessed with income. There’s more to human beings than how much they make. Your income doesn’t make you high value. Your character does.

Damn man with the data right in front of them they still said "today we have a choice" that was a cringe moment for me. Great video bro, roommate nation please share this.

I'm telling you now, listening to these discussions really makes me appreciate my wife. We had very little throughout dating and when we got married. Now we're doing phenomenally. But she honestly could care less how much money I make, she'll be the first one to say she fell in love with who I was as a man. And I did the same with her. Honestly, these women and modern women in general sound like children. They don't just desire the fantasy, they think they deserve it. All of them think they're above average and too good for an average man. They all gas each other up to the point that they have unrealistic viewpoints of themselves. Most of them aren't extraordinary, they're never going to be these elite high number earners, and they're going to pass over a lot of good men because they always think there's something better. Simply put, they don't qualify for better. They just don't know it.

I watched pink book lessons earlier and she reacted to a call show where the lady said he was too nice because he was a gentleman. She said she wanted more toxicity so she could like him more. When he got upset at this, the woman then said that's more like it and that was sexier than the gentleman's treatment (buying flowers, opening doors etc) she got every day they were together. Women don't know what they want. Bring what you bring to the table and when she doesn't show appreciation, dump her. Let her have her pookie and Ray Ray and find a woman who will appreciate what you bring.

The degree of nothingness that these ladies contributed to this "debate" is embarrassing 💔 The one on the left looks so confused. Would have been an interesting debate if they were as informed as this man😕

"Teachers can marry teachers theres somebody for everybody" two minutes later "if I'm a teacher then no I'm not gonna want to marry a teacher I'm gonna want better"

what baffles me is how they are asking for a man making 55% more than them which is near 100K or six figures but can't see the fact that if they add their $47k and the "average" man adds his $58k this becomes around $105 - 110k per year household but i'm surprised they don't see it that way

The reason women would rather be single moms nowadays is because they STILL get the father's money (child support) and they feel they can go on and pursue the $90k+ Chad.

I'm a single dad. One of my mates a long time ago had his first. One piece of strong advice I gave him was; while you could is a baby buy a few sets of clothes. Don't buy lots of clothes for them when they are babies because they grow to fast and you would have wasted a lot of money. I told him to buy towels and bibs and face cloths because babies are messy and you clean them constantly. You buy them a couple of nice clothes for public purposes but at home they are in home clothes, and they get messy and dirty, you change them 3x times a day sometimes. Kids are expensive ONLY if you wasted money unnecessarily.

The thing is money FLUCTUATES!! It comes and goes…What happens when the 6 figure man loses his job? Business is failing …What happens when the 40k guys finds a new passion that puts them over 6 figs? Many divorces happen for the same reasons because it was never based on character values in the first place. Soon as the money gone, so goes the wife.

Oh the more I see interviews on how modern women think, the more I’m gonna continue to invest in pets stocks.

Her: "I don't want my husband to be on the same level as me" Me: "Lol, haven't you ever heard about building yourselves up together" This can only come from a selfish standpoint.

Here's my hot take on the problem: Natural hypergamy in women has become rampant with the plethora of options now available due to dating apps and digitisation in general, and that the plethora of options forces them to prioritise the wrong things in men. The average woman has orders of magnitude more mate options than the average man; we know this with all the data we currently have. This produces a dilemma for women: how do I pick who to date from 50 options? The factors that start to chip away at the options *have* to be the superficial ones: looks, earning capacity and status. The reason why is because no woman has the time to sort through 50 options, right? The traits of personality, interests, passion, drive, values; these things take time to know about a person, time that these women with many options no longer feel they have. So, the whittling process prioritises superficial traits in men, and that leaves them open to dating guys who don't have their values and personality in order.

The sad thing I noticed from the ladies commenting is that they never talked about the values, the morals, the integrity, the real true important things that a man needs. The whole conversation was in the context of marriage yet the only thing they talked about was a man’s income, not how he should with the kids and how he should treat her. Money is the foremost focus first and if you don’t have that then you’re automatically disqualified fellas…

There is definitely value in a man who can provide for his family, particularly if you plan to have a family and/or want to stay home with kids. However, for most thats a luxury. More important is work ethic and character. If you find a good man that doesn't have the income you necessarily want consider how else he provides: Does he treat you well? Does he support you? Does he take care of you emotional and physical needs? Is he a good father? There's more than money that goes into providing.

What is amazing to me is that these ladies are pretty much saying I would rather die alone than have a man who can help them. So this video has really shown that the reason why women are not getting married is because men do not what to deal with there attitude. Even when shown what they want is unrealistic.

With all due respect to your guest, imo these are the type of women any man of value should stay clear from. The type where nothing is ever good enough. You see these characters in the most recent divorce celerities. They will be there for the lifestyle that is afforded but as soon as they are “unhappy” they leave and break the family. Not worth the risk to marry to someone who you can never satisfy. Just my opinion tho.

This woman said she’d only want to have kids with a man with certain ambitions. Not if he’s a caring man or responsible man, or even a kind man. Jesus🤦🏾‍♂️

🧢🧢🧢 At some point we have to admit (Ladies) that our Logic for not dating a man that make what we make or less is flawed 🤷🏾‍♀️

The thing this conversation is missing is that while it's okay for a woman to want the best, in order to have those standards, she too must be high quality. Many of the women wanting the top 1% of men are average at best.

The amount of money you make is not always equal to your "mindset". This WHOLE convo flew over their heads

I don’t understand when dudes try to convince women with this mentality to get married, let that single life sit on them for a while, it will change their mindsets, do what makes YOU happy

Hey Hafeez, *Constructive criticism* : I notice at several points in this conversation you use something similar to the phrase " _this is just my opinion_ " and even though what follows after you say it is based off several facts you've learned us before on this channel you still label it an "opinion". Why do this? It makes Jess and her friend think their response is on equal footing as yours even though they're replying with personal anecdote. I understand not wanting to shove facts down someone's throat but making the guest feel like their opinion is at the same level as yours when they've obviously have done less research seems wrong

His point about a single mom making $47k is a great point. If a woman requires a man to add 100k to her life to consider him for marriage(to raise kids as they put it) then why would she be ok with having kids be4 marriage? He could’ve worded it better but I think that was the gists

Hafeez made a good point that went over their heads. If women are ok having kids and being a single parent on a woman's average salary why are they not ok with having the same amount of kids with an additional average man's salary?

Your only a “lesser man” when u don’t make more money than them.

This just shows that no matter how hard a man works, levels up, and brings value shows how insignificant that is to women. The modern dating game is stacked against men.

Every man cannot be a high income earner just like every women can't be a high income earner. If that was the case my business growing would not have caused others to fail. It wasn't designed for everyone to be rich.Most wealth comes from exploitation and hording resources. I would say fall in love with someone for Morales, integrity and whatever you like. Everyone is not going to have everything.

The more videos I watch, the more I’m realizing that a lot of women are uncomfortable with objective thinking. They understand it, but choose to disregard it because it makes them feel emotionally inconsistent, which can be a painful feeling.

I’m curious to see the same ladies react to this video 15 years from now.

Woman don’t want an Equal, they want an expensive “Lifestyle “.

When I’m high value, I’ll stay single if I can’t come across a woman that doesn’t exhibit desperate energy for a man with “status”. I’ve been a solid dude for too long for me to go and bail out a girl trying to leech off of me. I’ll even try to hide my wealth for as long as possible. Ironically though, the only way I see myself getting married is IF I become high value due to the unrealistic standards of 80% of women.

They think luxury is normal and can be a standard. All they wanna use is the “ personal for me” not realizing thats its not personal or exclusive to you its apart of the culture of women.

You notice how when men have money they're expected to take women and nice gifts but women with money never talk about spoiling the man. That's why you aren't worth it.

This conversation needs to go viral as well. This was good!

Two income household is more than a one income household. How is that so hard to comprehend

Even with making more money than the average woman, they simply don't find the average man attractive and that is so odd to me. Hell, some women won't even date you when you are on the same playing field. When I worked in fast food I asked a girl out. She refused to date me because I worked in fast food...she was my co worker -_-

This is what Kevin has been preaching…

As a six figure earner, these are the women we enjoy running through and passing along. They tell on themselves so blatantly. If my looks and income are what has you interested, then I'll enjoy you for your body.

The older I get the more I realize how bad people are at managing their money. You don’t need too make 600k a year to live a comfortable happy life. “Being wealthy is not about how much money you make, it’s about how much money you spend”

They have no idea or concept that their standards are too high. "but if he does not meet my standards then why should I choose him??"

I've noticed these girls are struggling to answer these questions. I also noticed that if the man is making more money than the woman, he should accept her for her, but if he isn't making more than her, then he isn't worthy of her?

This is what's created my delimma. I often wake up and wish I was the kid interested in computers growing up because that's a 6 figure career out of the gate. Instead, my passion is in social work and helping people. Every career doesn't offer limitless earning potential and going into a social work career would mean that I probably won't reach 6 figures. If I'm a college student battling with this; how will this affect teenage boys? There's many factors to shortages in certain career but I can see men choosing not to become a teacher because they won't make enough money to appease a woman.

The Psychology Today article is flawed because the study is flawed. The article and PEW study it is based upon only focus on what women say they want. Money. An another study by the Brookings Institute that took into consideration both what men and women want debunks this article and the study it is based on. When you put into mix men's wants (childlessness), there is not purely a shortage of economically available men. There is a shortage of childless women by the same calculation. If men aren't measuring up to women's standards, the women aren't measuring up to men's standards either. Any study on marriage rates based purely on women's wants is flawed because women alone don't determine marriage. This is just half the conversation. White collar single men who do earn more than the majority of single women aren't marrying women often aren't marrying women with children and unrealistic expectations. The situation is more complex than this conversation. The mismatch is for both men and women. Men don't have what alot of women want. Women don't have what alot men want. It isn't just underperforming men. It's also the women.

Woman's perspective : man that makes at least 50% more is on my level Man's perspective : a woman's income does not determine her level

We are simply dealing with the Pareto Principle here. 80% of the woman want 20% of the men. When he said that teachers don't want teachers that is an indication that women dont want someone on their level, they want someone above their level.

I understand what they're trying to say about an expensive world. However, they didn't understand your point about being a teacher. They kept talking about the mindset of being 'equally yoked.' You were trying to explain to them that a teacher who makes 50k can have the same mindset, passion and dedication like a doctor who makes 300k, which would null in-void their argument. What they want to hear instead, is that you harbor those characters, but make the 300k.

Kindness, honesty, integrity and faithfulness in a man should be a given. If you don't have that minimum, then forget it. But these ladies want more. They don't want to struggle. A man's job is to provide. Blk men tend to compare themselves to blk women, when they should be comparing themselves to other men.

The ladies are absolutely gorgeous but seem to live in a bubble. The fact that they were so surprised at the average income stats surprised me.

I'm not even bothered by the standards of women anymore. I'm just trying to do my best and what ever woman is wants to be apart of it cool, if she dosent that's cool too.

At 21:04 she says she’d rather be single but being in my thirties and knowing older women that sentiment changes drastically. Women tend to be more relationship focused in general and not having a significant other really becomes an area of pain for older single women.

This is why on the flip side, men that are making a good life for them selfs, wont take these women serious. Its almost like they think they can pick w.e from the grocery store and throw out whats already good in their fridge. Appreciation just as a normal human being doesnt exist. They would rather break a real bond for superficial things that never existed years ago. I make the money they want. But now i dont even want them in a serious situation. Cause i know if i wasnt in this situation, things wouldnt be the same. Thats not genuine. And i think all men need to be like this in 2021 moving forward.

I think this interview took a piece of my soul smh. So depressing. Good job roommates 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I've been on both sides of the coin. I've had plenty of pucci over the years. And I've gone long droughts without. And if I may be honest. I'm actually A lot happier by myself. Maybe it's just me, but I love having financial freedom. No child support. No alimony. No girlfriend expense. I have enough cash to pay off all of my debts if I had to. It's actually nice not having to be a provider. Money actually stacks pretty fast without a girlfriend. I made the conscious decision to walk away from the dating world. A decision I do not regret one bit. I decided to quit while I was ahead (financially). If I need pucci, there's Vegas, west Texas, or the massage parlor. That's really all I need 🤣