Great peek. Thanks. These cats are not for exploring the North Atlantic in harrowing winds, which is fine cause I don't want to do that. People report they spend most of their time at a warm-water anchorage anyway. Might as well have a floating condo. I was on a Bali 5.4 this summer and the wife fell in love. The Lagoon is nice, but lacks the living space of the Bali. People buy these big cats for the lifestyle, not hard-water crossings (which they can do, albeit uncomfortably). Might as well get the most lifestyle for the buck. For the money I think we're still aiming at the Bali, though maybe the 4.8.
I don’t like all the cabins, I much rather have a way bigger master and say 2 guest cabins. Having all those guest cabins seems stupid. If I’m sailing with me and my lady I don’t want 3 other couples on a boat that’s only 55ft. Not saying it’s a small boat but it’s small when theirs 8 plus people on board. Why is it the older 50 plus foot cats seem to have really cool master bedrooms that take up the whole front part of the ship, I can’t remember the RU-vid family that has one but it’s really cool.
@@marcuslarwa9098 Most of these cats are sold into the charter market, where 8-10 guests pay 20-30K per week. The destination-tourism trade exploded about ten years back. You can still order most new cats in 'owner's editions' the way you want (fewer/larger rooms). Catana/Bali even created a boat (the 4.8) that is a bit smaller than their flagship charter boat (the 5.4), specifically to cater to potential owners. But it's also configurable as a charter. I think most charter operators would go the full 5.4, though. I'm looking at the 4.8 as a possibility in a few years, as I get ready to retire.
@@FamilyManMoving yea as a business that makes sense but like I said if I were getting it to sail around the world with my lady I’d much rather have less rooms that were bigger.
just was thinking of the bulk head failures that seem to plague this brand.. interior wise shes a beauty but more of a sailing apartment which should concern us all...
Flash Floating Apartment but it’s a bit IKEA looking inside, sharp corners everywhere, did I hear a creaking floor walking into the master? The high fly bridge and mast would put me off taking it anywhere serious with weather but nice for a fine weather charter.
It's a beautiful boat. Two issues that would end the possibility of buying, the bulkhead problems that will harm over a thousand people with defective boats, and the other issue that drives me nuts about all of the Lagoons I have been on is creaky floors. Why can't Lagoon get rid of their problems with creaky floors, they creak when you walk on them and they creak the whole time while underway. I could hear them the whole time you were walking around.
The bulkhead probs were only on one model according to Parlay Revival. Unless there has been something recent. Haven't seen anything about others since he toured factory and met with reps of company.
@@terrykeever3280 Sailing Zingaro where abord a Lagoon 500 while underway. That boat also creaked like crazy. You can search for that video on his channel. Just type in "Lagoon" in the search window... So if it is those two models - then why couldn't it be a problem on more models? I'm not familiar with the entire Lagoon range though...
I like for Lagoon to answer these question as followed directly. " Do the 55 lagoon have a structural problems that compromises the yacht performance, stability and safety." Are the problems with its previous model(s) are to be expected on this year 2022 Lagoon 55? If not... Will Lagoon guarantee its hull with a buy-back if there are problems with its structure e.g., streaky floor, bulkhead integrity and related issues? The yacht looks great . I just hope that it meets superior building standards.
The design just makes me wonder how practical the top deck and helm station is with bad weather. There is nowhere else to steer the boat from and I doubt you want to be out there in a rain storm or even in really large waves during a passage…
I agree, and I am wondering how that superstructure will hold up to large breaking waves, and what that does for the overall stability of the boat. Yikes.
I assume it’s enclosable, but I agree that heavy weather “manage your yacht in a heavy squall” type situations need more explanation. If you’re going to do long term blue watering, you’re going to get hit - hard - more than once.
@@rouslant An Amel is a completely different vessel (monohull vs cat.) Cat people want a luxury ride. With that said, I would much rather be in Amel during heavy weather since the helm is well protected. I never liked an "open" helm design found in many cats. Amel will always (for the foreseeable future) be a better blue water sailor than any cat.
@@scotthampton8741 a "boat for good weather" is like training for a boxing fight preparing only for "little punches". The sea is the sea, anything that can't stand 80+ knots winds isn't a boat, just a floating coffin. And that boom 7 or 8 meters above sea level is just a call to capsize.
Would be absolutely perfect for a week in the BVI’s, put the sails up for 30 minutes or so for show, then anchor up and it’s time for margaritas! Could you imagine having to tend to the mainsail in 3-4 meter waves in a seaway 20’ off the water? Great boats for what they are though.
Hmm, Lagoon cats have had issues with bulkhead failures... have they addressed these issues in new designs/builds and what are they doing for owners who have cats with bad bulkheads?
@@angela1984a it´s a FRENCH boat, not German, or Dutch, it´s French tech... I have seen Bulkheads broken fee from the hull on Jeanneaus enough, they build poor and sell high
@@angela1984a Have You been in France? Did You own a french car? Have You been tricked by french sellers? RU-vid is full of sailing-channels in troubles with broken this and malefunctioning that. A french bowthruster is not to be used permanentely, because the cable melts, it´s not "designed" for permanent use. A dutch boat has hydraulic bow thruster. You can thrust as long as You want.
Ever since I saw the first gunboat I am no longer attracted to these with flybridge at all It’s all nice until the first bad weather The cabins are spacious but I would definitely throw out the carpets And another interesting fact for me is the small water tanks considering the number of people that can be on board
@@MetalMike50 That's for sure. Maybe the technical part of the yacht will be shown a little more next time Because I see that there is an option for a fully electric powertrain instead of diesel engines this will be very popular in the years to come
@@MetalMike50 All very well but you still need to store the water for extended offshore passage making. Water makers stop working at the most inopportune times.
@@pred7949 There are better comparisons than Ferrari because these new buses look comfortable I was thinking about the design as a whole, not so much (although they are important) the performance Because when you do the math, even this boat is not cheap, and then again you wonder if the investment was worth it in the end, so you still have to upgrade everything, in the end you need to gather experience and see what you actually need
I know Covid has made it difficult to get a hold of one of the following, but anyone else that wants to see something about the Rapido 60 and/or the Bañuls 53 tri?...
There are so many cushions and breakables on the many decks, I have to wonder where it all goes if a squall is sighted, giving you short notice to get ready for it. Where does it all go and is there a drill for doing it?
Those were built ten years ago and they have changed their build practice... from what they showed Zattara ..🤷🏻♂️ But i still dont like the open fly bridge concept its a seasonal Mediteranian plus Holliday's boat some nice styling and lots of features but a skin cancer or hypothermia boat to sail.
@@ckh2815 I think from what i remember in his report... they arranged a programme of inspections and offered remedial works to those vessels that hadnt been reported as having had hurricane damage or accidental groundings.. Its either in the end of the video where he visits the factory to discuss the matter or the one after that. 🤔👍🏼 With oceanic warming generating more high energy weather events from squalls, bombs and thunderstorms up to Hurricanes and Typhoons breaking out of their traditional ranges both geographically and seasonally. Seakeeping and easy safe handling will become more of an incentive for the extended cruisers and live aboard's.
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Do you mean Zatara? They do not have a Lagoon. They have a Privilège. And as far as I know they do not have any kind of bulkhead issues...
@@angela1984a I know the boat and the model and the guy who owns it and what he does and that he had Odd life Crafting to stay on route to the last boat show. But i may have got my channel names crossed. 😂🤦🏻♂️ Put me right pls.
She's a beauty. Imagine having the terrible job of sailing her around the world to give Lagoon recommendations. WARNING: Some idiot mentioning bulkheads in 5...4...3...
Start production in Sept. 22? I don't know what their build time is, but with such a long order list, you're looking at at least two years to get your CAT.😮
You can't get any other cat now without wait at least 2 years. Unless some one step out from order and your dealer lucky be good kisser of right ass to increase his sales
@@ckbond41 first thing I noticed was the “stairs” up to the top flybridge. The narrator said the same thing I did “could use a handle rail along here”. Imagine yourself in a semi-rough sea, the boat rocking a bit and you trying to claw your way up those steps. The higher up you get the more pronounced the sea swell becomes. Its all well and good if you plan to just anchor it and motor in calm seas from island to island, but best laid plans of mice and sailors. Also my guess is more than one or two drunk guests will go sliding into the water along one of those walkways. Again any sea chop or motion will put many sailors and passengers in the water if there is not something to grab onto. The rule is “one hand for me and one hand for the boat” meaning you always want something you can grab onto while moving on deck. That boat as very few handholds and lots of place that come up to your knees. Any motion from the ocean will kick your legs out from under you as you hit your knees and put you in the water.
Ok i watched 5 seconds of the vid.. i saw the rigging and flybridge.. and my first thought was... its going to turtle upside down in 20knot winds lol.. mind you.. it would be safer upside down anyways... did a 2 year old design this thing?
Since approx same price, it deends if you stay in the islands or sail the world. Lagoon has the superb cabins and flybridge....the explocat the speed, the robust structure and keeps its value !!!! I'll take a lagoon....for antartica, I will call Ponant 😂
Everybody hating on this Lagoon should ask themselves why are they so successful then? And so much criticism for the interior design but don't they know you can customise the decoration when you order the boat? And that all luxury boatbuilders in that price range offer the same minimalistic style? What are they doing commenting this video if they have no idea what they're talking about?
The greatest depth of the sailboat design should be at the stem of the boat. The point midway between the mast and forestay should be the deepest point of the sailboat design. This increases the lateral resistance for the headsails and improves sail power and rudder control in high wind. Normal on keel design and normally refered to as seaworthy. When the bow of the boat has the most lateral resistance the boat is said to be seaworthy.
Great flowting summer hub at the dock or anchor but extreme noisy. Cracks from everywhere. Cannot sail well like HH or Outremer either. This vessel is likely success in charterworld. As a floating vacation home layout is super.
All of you talking about the bulkheads should watch Parlay Revival's videos. These probs were on one model and have been addressed. Watch his videos for what the issue is on a large number of this one model.
Hello, I need to know how much costs all maintenance for the year of Lagoon55 ? Please, I can't find anything information online. Just tell around, I hope not 100.000 per year. Thank you
Pretty nice cat...except for that fly bridge. Delete that completely, drop the main sail boom (and requisite mast height) by 10 feet, and cover the remaining roof with solar and you'd have something. As is, it's just another condo-maran. Cannot understand why people like that sort of thing, but apparently they do with 50 preproduction purchases on the books.
Bali has solid foredecks on the sailing cats, but I think they are alone. I think for everyone else there are some legacy choices in cat architecture having to do with designs built around older materials and methods. Makers are starting to lift the foredecks and connect them. Trampolines on some modern designs have shrunk to the point they might as well go full deck, ala Bali.
It's OK if you don't want to go anywhere but hang around anchorages, but not practical for long passages with rough weather. And that fly bridge is just plain daft for a sailing boat.
Just watched sailing Nahoa Big problems with bulkhead issues. This cat well how do you sort boom issues in big seas? Windage? Really high bridge and dangerous. Its a cat for light weather sailing and small seas thats it. Personally i wouldnt trust the designs or the build quality. Go for a Privilage or Xquisite They are a different league, no creaking or major banging
So what do you do if you have a problem with your boom? Moving the sail area up apart from massively lowering your performance especially in light winds just makes the boat top heavy. I suppose you don't have to worry about the boat flipping though, you're permanently reefed lol. Fly bridges on sailing boats has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
It's the same reason there are sports cars and RVs. Some want to go fast and enjoy the wind, some want to get somewhere in comfort and enjoy the location. There is no 'one size fits all' options for anything really. This is just another option.
I’m not sure if it was an optical illusion or not but the bow seemed low in the water while the stern was high? Seemed to be nosing into the shallow waves? Obviously a day trip boat? No solar provision? Open exposed to the weather top cockpit? 50 sold before making production? Hmmmm. Not for me. I think lagoon needs some new designers?
i dont know if i like how this boats sails it seems to me its bow hits low into the waves it would worry me that is could really take a nose dive, L.A Rob
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All the pluses from Toby are about relaxation spots. The quality from lagoon is a joke compared to other French builders. They are now the hunter of cats.
I’m sorry but there is nothing that attracts me… the design is a disaster, looks cheap and is definitely not bluewater suitable, to spacey and sharp edges, so being tossed around and hurt badly. An open flybridge, seriously? This boat is way overpriced by its design and look and more a marina weekend cruiser than a really serious bluewater cruiser… sorry, just my opinion…. I wouldn’t even take one for free but definitely I wouldn’t pau £ 1,700,00 for it and would wait even 2 years…
By no means it's a perfect boat, but do give me a shout if you find a "perfect" brand new 55 feet cat for under €2m. I can tell you it won't be less than €2.5m, comparing to the €1.7 of this boat. €1.7m is cheap for the max spec 55 cat, it can't be perfect for this money and that's the compromise.
@@edgarskarklins5722 exactly. Its “cheap”. You get what you pay for. I’m sure it would be great fun on a sunny day along the coast in 6 knots of breeze. Other than that, no thanks.
