The Land of Shadow inspiration DISCOVERED... hiding in the ANCIENT LORE of ASOIAF 

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I think the best parallel to Asshai would be the royal capital of Leyndell, it’s a ruined city that is the home of the Erdtree and after the player burns the Erdtree to gain access inside the tree, the city becomes completely covered in Ash, becoming Leyndell the Ashen Capital, with the resulting ash making the city uninhabitable

When they revealed the ‘Land of Shadow’ (Elden Ring), the first thing that came to mind was the ‘Shadowlands’ and Asshai (ASOIAF). From naming conventions, to plot/purpose of the lands (as per the Trailer, and Miyazaki interviews about the Land of Shadow) etc. As someone who’s somewhat well versed in both worlds, there are SOO MANY parallels and similarities. I can definitely tell that Martin manipulated and experimented a lot with his pre-existing Shadowlands of Westeros when penning up the Land of Shadow

As a long time ASOIAF fan, I would love to know more about Elden Ring lore and its parallels with ASOIAF!

It’s wild how few ice and fire fans have played the game. I know video games and books are very different but idk, I haven’t seen a big RU-vidr yes claim to have actually played the game yet 😮‍💨 there’s lots of similarities.

In the end you people gonna make me dive for good into elden ring. That was a fun video ❤

8 minutes of Amanda 🎉I'm always thankful.

Always great seeing more and more connections between Elden Ring and ASOIAF. I also think Rykard is someone else who shares themes and ideas with the Bloodstone Emperor(and Euron). He's also connected with fire and has a very twisted view of family. The parallels between the Great Empire of the Dawn and The Golden Order are very interesting as well.

I’ve been an ASOIAF fan for a good few years now. When Elden Ring came out, I was fascinated by how much the game’s lore echoed & paralleled so many of ASOIAF’s themes & narratives. I’ve been wondering for awhile if the game mythology wasn’t just GRRM’s ASOIAF channeled through the mind of Elden Ring’s developer, Hidetaka Miyazaki. A few Elden Ring RU-vidrs have recently been exploring the apparent similarities. It would be so delightful if you applied your legendary ASOIAF theory skills to some crossover Elden Ring material. As soon as I saw Messmer the Impaler, I was thunderstruck by his resemblance to the Bloodstone Emperor. Thanks so much for this initial dive! And YES, please give us more of it - the interest is most certainly intense! Cheers. 🥂🎉😊👍

I don't play vidya at all, but now I can pretend like it do! :) Fun Fact: "Erde" means "Earth" in German; "erdeberrie" are "earth berries", or "Strawberries", as we would say. That would make this the "Earth Tree"/"Tree of the Earth". The pretty, glowing "good tree" is straight out of LotR/Silmarillion. Lots of "black stone", "Blackrock", "Black cube" creepy, esoteric significance, as well. Be warned the "Black Cube" rabbit hole is deep and dark.....well worth it to learn more.

Lots of great GRRMy word/symbolism play in this that ties into ASIOAF too. The "Black Stone"(Obsidian) and "Blood Stone"(Red Stone/Ruby), are super Targy. The idea of "Two Trees" is a great visual symbol for the Axis Mundi motif, although I'm not sure of the exact geography of the Elden World, as it were, but it speaks to the overall notion of "polarity" and "duality". Even the term "Shade of the Evening Tree" is a bit of a play on the concept of a "shade tree" you would spend time in, if you were outside(e.g "shade tree mechanic") . See you in the streams. Cheers & Tschuss!

I haven't felt compelled to return to Elden Ring since any of this DLC has hit, but the whole game feels like an ASOIAF fever dream. The funny thing is that there are so many well researched lore videos by super knowledgeable fans of the Blood Born games and From Soft, who have only the most vague and passing knowledge of GRRMs work. Just the constant crab and turtle references alone in that game...

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Your videos are always a treat. Haven't played Elden Ring either but know a little about its lore. Hope you can cover the next expansion when it drops!

I really hope someone makes a Sing of Ice and Fire open world RPG at some stage. It would be so amazing to be able to explore Westeros in first person

The Gods are good! I guess I have to go back and finish Elden Ring and look out for parallels

So good,your outlook on tha story we love always peeks my interest.Thnx Amanda ❤ 💯

those snakes remind me of fire wyrms Thanks for sharing!

As huge fan of both elden ring and asoiaf . I really emjoyed your video

Great video, one theory I've been writing is on Marika's status at the end of the game. When you find her, she is impaled.

There is a dragon named Bayle the dread in the dlc! He looks so much like the art of baelarion from the new coffee table book.

Yes! I’ve been searching for a channel that points out the parallels between ASOIAF and Elden Ring. Automatic sub and like please do more of these!

GRRM doesn't repeat himself, but he rhymes. 🙂

This is a great start to a theory, but I'm really struggling to put together who Mesmer might have objected to becoming Lord. It's probably not Godfrey OR Radagon, since Mesmer likely wasn't born at that point. My guess... Miquella. His St. Trina person is associated with sleep, which is usually colored light purple. Amethyst.

Thanks Amanda.

The parallels here are really intriguing! I really enjoyed this, and you make me want to look deeper into the ER lore.. I particularly like the dragon imagery, as I'm very drawn to the idea of Azor Ahai being a dragonlord, and the GEotD discovering and mastering the dragonbond millenia before Valyria.

Granted George has said some places in ASOIAF aren't fully flushed out, but hypothetically if every location on Planetos has been finalized, what place would you want to know more about most?

You are a Goddess amongst women!!! Thank You❤

The show kind of made the Starks more rustic than they where in the books. House Stark in the novels where not as wealthy as the Lannister's but they where a lot wealthier than the show. First lets look at what they wear in the books which is nothing like there costumes in the show. Side note Lord Rickard owned Steel armour and gold spurs. When Arya is packing to go to Kings Landing she files where chest with silk and Sansa is fond of blue silk. In Kings Landing Eddard looked nothing like what he did in the show, he always wore what he called his council silk. Ned also commissions a new uniform for his guards. Long cloaks of heavy grey wool decorated with white satin borders. Their cloaks are pinned with hands of beaten silver representing there Lords office as hand of the King. When he was on the Iron Throne Ned wore a white double embosomed with a grey dire wolf. In Winterfell at the feast welcoming the King and Royal Family they all dressed grandly, including Benjen Stark. There are high born brothers in the Nights Witch from the north and south and I have never seen one dressed as well as Benjen at that feast, not even Lord Commander Mormont himself. He wears rich black velvet high black leather boots. His wide belt has a silver buckle and very heavy silver chain. When Bran is attacked by Wildlings he is attacked for what he is wearing and he is second legitimate son and he is wearing a wolfs head broch of silver and jet. Jet is a gemstone and this is not a formal event this is just outriding in the woods. Jon wears fine blacks and mole skin gloves which would not be cheap. At Winterfell harvest feast Bran is dressed quote, as befits a Prince and Robb wears a bronze crown and Catelyn describes her sons royal Kingly attire as quote magnificent. Also Theon Greyjoy dressed very well when he was living with Stark in silk and Gold and Balon fears the Starks have made him soft. I doubt Greyjoy money was funding Theon's extravagant lifestyle. When he takes Winterfell he crowns himself Prince of Winterfell and orders and orders a new crown forged with black diamonds and chunks of gold. Where did he get the gold and diamonds if not from Winterfell's plundered treasury. And before Winterfell Bran and Luwin gave the Manderley's gold and build a royal fleet and mint coins. At the Winterfell harvest feast Now lets look at Winterfell it is much bigger and much grander than in the show this is a Castle built of granite which is an opulent martial. Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres and encircled by two massive granite walls. Remember the Castle is built over natural hot springs and as the wiki explains. The water is piped through walls and chambers to heat them, making Winterfell more comfortable than other castles during the harsh northern winters. Also from the wiki Inside the walls, the complex is composed of dozens of courtyards and small open spaces. Weapons training and practice take place in those yards. The inner ward is a second, much older open space in the castle where archery practice takes place. It is located next to the broken tower. Inside Winterfell stands the inner castle, which contains the Great Keep and the Great Hall. Winterfell's towers and halls have diamond-shaped window panes.[6] Inner Castle The Great Keep is the innermost castle and stronghold of the castle complex. It was built over natural hot springs to keep it warm.[5] The Great Keep contains bedchambers for House Stark[5] as well as the solar of Lord Eddard Stark.[7] The building is connected to the armory by a covered bridge.[8] From a window on the covered bridge, one can see the entire yard.[9] Beneath the Great Keep are cellars with narrow windows.[10] The Great Hall is used for receiving guests and the place where the household dines together, including the Lord of Winterfell. It is made of grey stone[11] and has wide doors made of oak and iron,[12] which opens to the castle yard, and a rear exit leads to a dimly-lit gallery.[12] Inside it can hold eight long rows of trestle tables, four to each side of the central aisle,[12] and the hall can seat five hundred people.[13] There is a raised platform for noble guests, and the walls are covered with banners.[11] The hall contains the high seat of the old Kings in the North. The seat's cold stone has been polished by the many lords who have sat upon it, and its massive arms are decorated with the carved heads of snarling direwolves.[14][15] The small sept was built for Lady Catelyn Tully, a southron, by her husband, Lord Eddard.[16] Courtyard and Other Buildings The First Keep, a squat and round drum tower, is the oldest surviving part of the castle but is no longer in use. Around it lies a lichyard where the Kings of Winter would bury their loyal servants. The keep has gargoyles atop it.[17][6] Maester Kennet determined it was built after the Andals arrived.[18] The broken tower, also known as the Burned Tower, was once the tallest watchtower in Winterfell. Over 140 years ago a lightning strike set it afire and the top third collapsed inward, but no one rebuilt it.[19][20] It stands behind the old inner ward. Crows nest atop the broken tower.[19] The ancient godswood of Winterfell has stood untouched for ten thousand years, with three acres of old packed earth and close-together trees creating a dense canopy, which the castle was built around. At the center of the grove stands an ancient weirwood with a face carved into it, standing over a pool of black water.[16] Across the godswood from the heart tree, beneath the windows of the Guest House, an underground hot spring feeds three small pools, with a moss-covered wall looming above them. The godswood is enclosed by walls, and is accessed by a main iron gate, or smaller wooden ones. The Glass Gardens[21] is a greenhouse heated by the hot springs, which turn it into a place of moist warmth.[5] It is used to grow fruits, vegetables, and flowers.[9][22] The garden has green and yellow glass panes[10] locked in frames.[8] The crypt of Winterfell, located near the First Keep, is where members of House Stark are buried. The underground crypts are long and narrow, with pillars moving two by two along its length. Between pillars stand the sepulchers of the Starks of Winterfell, the likenesses of the dead seated on thrones, with iron swords set before them to keep the restless spirits from wandering, and snarling direwolves at their feet. The crypts are deep under the earth, cavernous and bigger than the complex above ground. They are accessed by a twisting stone stair and a huge ironwood door that lies at a slant to the floor. The stair continues below to older levels where the most ancient Kings in the North are entombed.[23][17][10] The Bell Tower is connected to the rookery by a bridge. The bridge is covered and runs from the fourth floor of the tower to the second floor of the rookery.[6][8] The maester's turret is below the rookery.[24] The Library Tower houses the library at Winterfell. A stonework staircase winds about its exterior.[8] The Guards Hall is in line with the Bell Tower, and further back, the First Keep.[6] Winterfell has undercrofts and cellars.[25] The castle also has dungeons,[25] including tower cells.[26] Walls Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres, defended by two massive walls of grey granite with a wide moat between them.[4] The outer wall is eighty feet high, while the inner is one hundred feet high.[4] There are guard turrets on the outer wall and more than thirty watch turrets on the crenelated inner walls. The great main gates[7] have a gatehouse made of two huge crenelated bulwarks which flank the arched gate[8] and a drawbridge that opens into the market square of the winter town.[27][28] There is a narrow tunnel inside of the inner wall stretching halfway around the castle, allowing travel from the south gate all the way to the north gate without interruption.[19] The Hunter's Gate is close to the kennels and the kitchens. It opens directly onto open fields and the wolfswood, so people can come and go without having to cross through the winter town. It is favored by hunting parties.[4] The East Gate[10] or east gate[29] leads to the kingsroad.[10] The Kingsroad Gate[7] may be another name for the same gate. The Battlements Gate is a small arched postern in the inner wall. It crosses the moat between the walls but does not have a passageway through the outer wall.[7]# When Jon Snow becomes Lord Commander of the Nights Watch he considers building a glass building but thinks it will be costly and for such fine glass he would need to look Myr and by the freedom of a few glass makers. We know Sansa loves lemon cakes and lemon trees do not grow naturally in the north importing lemon seeds to Winterfell from the reach or Doren would not be cheap. My guess would be the seeds came form Doren as one need only sail up the narrow sea than the up the White Knife. Finally Maester Luwin has his own turret and mentions having servents of his own. The Starks top servants have servants Not as wealthy as the Lannister but it clear Ned and Robb after him where unlike in the show 2 of the wealthiest man in the world.

More parallels please!

You should play it , it’s excellent

Very insightful thank you

Ashai seems to have a lot of symptoms of radiation poisoning.

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How I didn’t instantly get The Shadow Lands/Land of Shadows is funny lmao! I love the parallel of inverse trees applying to both worlds. The Erdtree in the DLC apparently is engulfed by another Tree, which looks like a parasite, to the point that the original(?) Erdtree is leaking its golden sap. Also, apparently for lore reasons you must kill a boss which is holding the stars in stasis. When killed, a meteor shower happens. So the Bloodstone Emperor worshipping a stone has a lot going for it! The Blood Betrayal is quite interesting, there’s a lot of speculation that Messmer (the boss in the DLC) was either betrayed by his Mother, Marika (confirmed by the writer) or is in charge in of these lands her name. Still speculation. In game the Divine Towers aren’t black, but they are significantly distinct nonetheless. Awesome video 🎉🎉🎉 You should check Tarnished Archeologist and Queelag for reference too! As I said on Twitter I’d pay to see you speculating about this game based on ASOIAF

@The Disputed Lands Amanda, would you be interested in doing a Livestream with an Elden Ring Gamer / asoiaf - Elden Ring parallel content creator?

I think it would be worth checking out the original Church of Starry Wisdom from Lovecraft and the stories of the Black Pharaoh Nephren-Ka and Nyaralohotep (Haunter in the Dark) for more Bloodstone Emperor info. Both are God-Kings (Pharaoh, Emperor) who cast down the gods of their homelands (Egypt, Great Empire) to worship a black stone that fell from space. When Nephren-Ka dies, he is entomed below a temple in catacombs designed to filter out all light. After his death Nyaralohotep, the eldritch Chaos God who can be summoned by the Pharaoh's black stone, starts using the image of the Black Pharaoh as his earthly avatar (examples: his appearances in Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath and Dreams in the Witch House)

Muy interesante

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I'll give you this one for free. These trees are stolen from Tolkien. The Two Trees of Valinor which are corrupted and blackened by Melkor, stealing the light.