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The LAST Ditch Attempt to Heal The KOI 

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The LAST Ditch Attempt to Heal The KOI
In this video I make one last attempt to heal the Koi from the Aeromonas bacterial infection. Should this attempt fail, I will be facing a very hard decision on the future of my Koi Pond.
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@OchibaKoi
@OchibaKoi 7 месяцев назад
I really feel for you Simon, this is really difficult to deal with. I’m going through the same right now and it’s such a hustle. I’m greatfull to have this content up for the reference point. It is truly very difficult to get any right help. I’m at that brick wall right now. I’m having to put some to sleep too and it’s a tough call. Over here I’m trying to heal and fix almost a 70 odd koi. It’s a real solid headache brother.
@TelfordKoiPond
@TelfordKoiPond Год назад
I really feel for you Si, this hobby can be so unfair at times☹️. No one can say you haven’t done all you can for your fish, keep at it sir, I’m hoping you will come through this stronger and more knowledgeable 🤞🤞🤞
@ADS-KOI
@ADS-KOI Год назад
This has got to be the worst year for us all 😢 got my fingers crossed for you mate
@sroRAGE
@sroRAGE Год назад
Man not a good season for many this year and the funny part is people that spent thousands on pond lab guardians, drums bottoms drains fibre glassed ponds expensive fish that have the trouble where as ones with a pump fed box filters and large fish are happy posting videos of their fish swimming around xD
@Chequr_Prostate
@Chequr_Prostate Год назад
There should be an official course you can go that gives the basics of Koi treatments and allows you to inject antibiotics for your fish. This is providing a VET prescribes the use of antibiotics. The approved course could be one that you have to renew every say 3 to five years. If every Koi/ fish keeper wrote to the relevant minister you get a change. Much better to lobby the minister through a Koi organisation.
@Steve_1970
@Steve_1970 Год назад
Gutted for you SI, Fingers crossed for you bud🤞🤞Thanks for sharing the darkside of the hobby, Awareness is beneficial to everyone 💯💯👍👍
@kevinlowe3808
@kevinlowe3808 Год назад
Really feel the pain Bud hopefully things will take a turn for the better soon
@1973cashy
@1973cashy Год назад
Hats off to you mate. You've given them every chance. You'll get sorted. 👍🏻
@martingage5323
@martingage5323 Год назад
Been in your shoes Si, injections after injections. I took the steps to put everything down treated pond with neat chlorine ran for a week to nuke everything. Then clean down refill and start over again. I then only purchased koi from one dealer only. Good luck there is a better side to the hobby. Agreed more needs to be done by the veterinary board. Paula can only do so much.
@KoiRun50
@KoiRun50 Год назад
I can't imagine. So sorry for the troubles you're going through.
@paulbishop4225
@paulbishop4225 Год назад
Hope you get it sorted. I have a similar problem and amikin helped a couple of the fish recover. Also Virkon I used to help stop the transmission of the bacteria by reducing the load in the pond. I found that before I used it the injection points would become infected in some fish. The injections points cause raised scales and bruising on most fish, especially with the stronger antibiotics. So I started to use Virkon and also rub the injection site with tamodine.
@ferguson077
@ferguson077 Год назад
great info
@AndysKoiPuddle
@AndysKoiPuddle Год назад
Sorry to see you haven’t had a quick remedy mate. You are giving them the best chance you can tho, well done and good luck mate, hope it improves……. 🤞🏼
@wernerventer4520
@wernerventer4520 Год назад
Hi. I used the amicasine after the batril and it cleared up after a while. Had bad ulcers. The fins bones I clipped off to prevent further issues. Gave the pond also a few anti-bac treatment just to help to reduce the bacterial load while they recovered. Good luck with the fish. I believe you'll win mate
@markhilden1254
@markhilden1254 Год назад
Hi Si, I know how it feels I’m going through similar issues it feels like your fighting a loosing battle. Fingers crossed your win
@team-118
@team-118 Год назад
Hopes and prayers with you fella ..
@richd-koi6974
@richd-koi6974 Год назад
Feel for u mate. Imo PP baths have worked for me on ulcers n mouth rot. Every other day chemically burns away the badness n wont damage healthy tissue. Saved a few this way 👍🐟 never used antibiotics due to like u say their lack of availibility
@koikarma5363
@koikarma5363 Год назад
Hope it works Si really feel for you bruv 👍👍🚀🚀
@121koinickosborne4
@121koinickosborne4 Год назад
I really feel for you bud 😢 I wish I still had my contact that used to get an antibiotic that was so good fish would skin over in days!! He used to get it from Japan I believe i lost contact when I got out of the hobby many year ago, there isn’t enough help out there in situations like this, its the vicious part of this hobby
@nippinkoi8924
@nippinkoi8924 Год назад
Worked a treat on mine last year , wen I had same problem
@markhutchinson9860
@markhutchinson9860 Год назад
Following your drum video we’ve done the same . We’ve been through the same ting on a 9000 gallon pond . We’ve pushed the boundaries with C T and salt might be worth a try
@joycedrinkwater917
@joycedrinkwater917 Год назад
Hope your issues get resolved
@Sharpeyskoi
@Sharpeyskoi Год назад
ah mate i really hope you can get on top of this.
@davidcook380
@davidcook380 Год назад
I really feel for you Si
@markdickinson3123
@markdickinson3123 Год назад
You could try contacting the vets governing body, royal vetinary college. Explain to them your issue with your vet and provide them with Paula's recommendations. Vets have a legal duty of care to care for livestock. Maybe suggest they contact your vet and remind them of this and recommend the treatment to them. Also, you mentioned "tamarind" so im guessing your treating topically, have you tried "propolis" and a sealer, personally i used to use FMG neat applied with a cotton bud. Good luck anyway
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Vets have an obligation to treat "Animals" under the Veterinary surgeons act. Unfortunately fish aren't included in this and vets are under no obligation whatsoever to prescribe antibiotics for fish. That is the whole issue within this industry and an issue that Paula herself has been fighting for quite some time. The wounds were treated initially with Tamodine on the first Antibiotic injection, after that they was just injected every other day. If you continue treating topically after the first injection, you risk preventing the wound from healing as you disrupt the fresh skin from forming. Aeromonas infections that penetrate into the fish will only be cured by means of Antibiotic, if a wound is healed with other external treatments, then the bacteria hasn't got to the advanced stage and would be a completely different scenario that I have been facing. Unfortunately in my case, it all happened very quickly and the Bacteria became resistant in a very short space of time👍
@markdickinson3123
@markdickinson3123 Год назад
Unfortunately I am aware of the issues within the industry as I used to be a dealer/retailer. Cefas and other bodies insist on guidelines, rules certificates and all the red tape but actually do nothing for fish. I used to have a good relationship with 2 vets and they used too supply me with both Baytril and Amacicin free in exchange for tropical aquarium supplies for their reception areas. They even used to send key keepers to me for treatment (unofficially). But no, getting supplies now is ridiculous, can't even buy syringes from the chemist anymore. Anyway, good luck.
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
@@markdickinson3123 thanks, yeah there are vets out there that will prescribe antibiotics, but they are very few and far between. I couldn't find anybody around my area that was remotely interested in prescribing the required drugs even with a report from Paula and the willingness of Paula to speak with them. It's madness
@dazpowell8371
@dazpowell8371 Год назад
Feel for you mate going through the same thing 😢
@richardiasparo5026
@richardiasparo5026 Год назад
Would have liked to see how you injected at least one of them.. Maybe next time. Good luck!
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
It's on a previous video Richard...🙂
@Koibuilder
@Koibuilder Год назад
It’s Pants Si I had exactly the same issue in my old pond! When I built my new pond I aware I would be prepared for the same issue. So went to an over sea’s provider for an antibiotic. Now I’m always well prepared for any eventuality., I have lots of Gentamicin in several 30 mg bottles. In my fridge ! It’s a god send. I’ve not lost any fish for yrs. Yet a couple have had an infection but cleared up after 2. Injections 4 days apart. Good look regards Rob
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
I got Baytril from overseas but couldn't get any other antibiotic. The others I could have used was Amikacin and Gentamicin, couldn't find them anywhere.
@micheler3011
@micheler3011 Год назад
Thanks for sharing, where would you inject the fish , what area?
@micheler3011
@micheler3011 Год назад
@@UpNorthKoiPondhow are those fish doing now, hope you had some improvement in their condition, just subscribed and thanks for sharing. So sad that happened omg must have been devastating for you and really stressful! Praying all will overcome this!
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
@@micheler3011 unfortunately some of the fish had to be Euthanized as alternative treatments were inaccessible. The remaining ones are being closely monitored 👍
@micheler3011
@micheler3011 Год назад
What about steroids can that work?
@danisfishing9013
@danisfishing9013 Год назад
Hi there for the doistu sanke have you thought about clipping the fin. Would that perhaps allow some kind of recovery for that fish as that’s were the bacteria is most concentrated
@user-pi8sn9od9s
@user-pi8sn9od9s Год назад
I am in the same boat lost two four more infected fingers crossed there not getting any worse
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Sorry to hear that☹️ what did the lab results recommend?
@CescaTheDarkHorse
@CescaTheDarkHorse Год назад
Hope things work out Simon. Fingers crossed 🤞🙏
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Thank you Cesca
@IcenI_Koi
@IcenI_Koi Год назад
Got my fingers crossed for you mate. You know it. 👍
@davidfieldman2637
@davidfieldman2637 Год назад
Hope your fish get better
@red39entertainment16
@red39entertainment16 Год назад
Curious if you have tried Virkon Aquatic to treat the water? It’s stopped a lot of contagious bacterial infections.
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Hi, No I haven't as Virkon is a preventative treatment as opposed to a treatment to cure a bacterial infection that's already well established. I have used CT to lower the bacterial count in the water.
@koifishjohnny
@koifishjohnny Год назад
Gutted mate, dropped you a email just incase pal
@andrewoakley4046
@andrewoakley4046 Год назад
I’ve had same issues. Only thing that worked was virkon aquatic. It makes a sterile environment so the fish can heal itself. One tablet per thousand gallons per week. Double dose for first hit. Hope this helps you!
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Thanks Andrew, I'm afraid my situation is way past being able to use external chemicals as its in the bloodstream. Once bacteria gets within the body, the ONLY cure is antibiotics. 👍
@kevinallison2856
@kevinallison2856 Год назад
Aup budd a really feel fo thi all money laid art it's nasty. Hope they all get better for thi. Si thi for naw.😢
@nippinkoi8924
@nippinkoi8924 Год назад
Have you tried pp paste covered with propolis
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
No point Nipp, the Bacteria is in the bloodstream. Once its in the bloodstream no amount of external medications/treatments will help, hence the need for antibiotics👍
@markdickinson3123
@markdickinson3123 Год назад
Mon, have you tried soaking some food in the antibiotics and feeding it.?
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
@@markdickinson3123hi mark, no I haven't, mainly because I've been injecting antibiotic directly into the fish, which if that doesn't work then it's unlikely medicated food would
@hertskoi
@hertskoi Год назад
fingers crossed fella
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Cheers mate👍
@sony436
@sony436 Год назад
hi pal have reaches out to duncan griffin he only live in staffordshire
@westbromkoi
@westbromkoi Год назад
Gutted for you Si, such a shit side of the hobby, and worse with the little help available out there. 🤞🏼 that you can get on top of it
@alanfindlay2320
@alanfindlay2320 Год назад
Hi Simon the fin damage on the doitsu sanke you’ll need to cut the damaged rays back to healthy tissue. The rays are beyond healing best to get rid. Good look fella.
@tonybarker428
@tonybarker428 Год назад
I was just about to say the same thing 👍
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Thanks. Just to clarify, be best to cut the rays right back or get rid of the fish?
@tonybarker428
@tonybarker428 Год назад
@@UpNorthKoiPond if you want to save the koi , then remove all dead parts of the fin. If you think it’s not worth saving then it’s your call, best of luck
@alanfindlay2320
@alanfindlay2320 Год назад
@@UpNorthKoiPond just get rid of the dead rays Simon it’ll give the fish a better chance of healing. The longer you leave the dead rays on the more it’ll eat into the good tissue. Please don’t get rid of the fish. Hope this explains a bit better. Good luck matey ❤️
@dorsetkoipond
@dorsetkoipond Год назад
Hi mate definitely good choice on the artificial heat changing/ ramping pm me what antibiotic do you need I have a contact might be able to get some pm me mate 👍👌㊗️㊗️㊗️
@shaunleonard8146
@shaunleonard8146 Год назад
Poor Fish.
@shaunleonard8146
@shaunleonard8146 Год назад
Really Hope you Win Mate.
@Koi.Heaven
@Koi.Heaven Год назад
Have you done a swab ? To know what your treating. If you have a contact send it to me to send I have a vet who is a koi vet in a practise.
@UpNorthKoiPond
@UpNorthKoiPond Год назад
Yes I have had a swab test done via Lincolnshire Fish Health (Paula Reynolds).
@japankoiimport
@japankoiimport Год назад
Please please listen to Paula she is fantastic!!!!!!!! i notice that you have an air source heat pump, if you can raise the temp to over 31 degrees for a week or so it will kill off the Aeromonas if i remember correctly. i had a customer with the same situation that you are in last year and i advised the same and because of the stupid weather last year he managed to do it for just over a week , it did cost him a hell of a lot of money BUT it saved his remaining koi , i wasn't able to achieve that temperature but i will always remember what Paula said and if it can help you please do it i am not a pond owner i am a business and i cannot rate Paula highly enough if you want to talk you can ring me i am open 7 days a week i will NOT try to sell you ANYTHING i have been in your shoes all the best Mark JAPAN KOI IMPORT just google it and you will see i am genuine and you will be able to get my landline
@LeTwistedOne
@LeTwistedOne Год назад
Absolutely Fecking gutted for you Simon bruva this hobby can be a nasty biatch at times 💯🧁👍👍👍 Such with it bruva you'll get past this 💯🧁👍👍👍
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