The Last Flight of the U.S.S. Constitution - Fallout 4 Lore 

Doc Hoss could've been the Prydwen's counterpart.

Exactly this! The Minutemen needed this. That would have been fucking awesome.

Doc Hoss THAT would have been amazing

I'm pretty sure that Ironsides would have much rather broadsided the Yangtze had he actually made it into the water.

Doc Hoss Meh, I personally feel that the Brotherhood and Minutemen can co exist.

Flakey Bitsus also firing a cannon is awesome

@MRDRAXX everyone in Fallout is freaken insane

B lol

Also, he gives you a handheld cannon, which is also freaking cool

And now you have C scavengers are just a bunch of greedy backstabbers who can't be trusted

"We won't be killing anyone" Try to kill you

No arguments here, I only just hate that most companions will prefer siding with those scavengers....

​@@neilsonhans4763 That's why Ada is the best. She only hates stealing. But not mass murder. Isn't stolen when the owner isn't around.

@@dankbonkripper2845 Are you sure? I don't think he reacts to much even for cold-blooded murder since I always bring him along when I intend to wipe out an settlement. To me he is more of an automatron with personality but lack judgment.

@neilsonhans4763 when I say "hates" I mean the only thing she has a verbal que that isn't excited agreement is when you steal something. Ada doesn't have standard companion emotional levels, you do her quest as dlc and that's it. But she runs the mechanist factory and in currently taking Hancock with me to slaughter all the raiders in nuke world.

300 years and still has a grudge against the Canadians. That’s a true patriot

in the fallout world, the us attacks, occupies then eventually annexes canada. and right up to the nukes dropping the canadians were still resisting via sabatose and guerrilla resistance.

In the fallout universe the usa is worse than china lol

@@jimboonie9885 They didn't do anything worse than what the communists did in real life.

@@jimboonie9885 the US is better by default regardless of what we’ve done

Don’t you mean, they be pirate robots

I had many reasons. 1 - the scavengers told me to gtfo their lawn just as I passed by, while the robots welcomed me; 2 - the scavengers attacked me while I was onboard; 3 - my son is a robot, my bff is a robot, my butler is a robot and I work freeing robots, so I'm a big fat robot lover alright.

Are ye a true Robo Pirate ay Scallywag?

You've made a very valid argument

what the heck makes you say they're pirates?

Also as the president is dead and no new one has been appointed in the line of succession would he not also be the president of United States

@@jasonpark3803 Thinking about it It could be possible If the line of succession is this messed up, Ironsides may well indeed technically be president

we live in a society

john smiff indeed

no offence but his navigator is as competent as VP pence and ironside's planning is that of Trump

And they're also literal robot pirates which is never not awesome

@@robertramirez9251 there not pirates their US navy sailors on the USS constitution and are trying to get to the water to defend the Atlantic ocean from enemies

@@tylersoto7465 well let's be real you see a ship with canons, filled with robots, a sentry bot that has a hat a pirate would wear, and you get a canon for a weapon if you side with the robot.

@@tylersoto7465 also another thing the general minuteman uniform can make a good pirate outfit with a sword and the broadsider. Oh and to quote Moe, I like my version better

@@robertramirez9251 which is awesome , I will would love a pirate faction in fallout 4 more than minutemen or railroad so much more liberty and freeing lol

@Mellie lll looooool

Theres a few quests where companions do that

I was with C0dsw0rth when d0ing this quest and he seemed t0 be where he bel0nged. Als0, WHY D0 THE C0MPANI0NS HAVE T0 REPEAT THAT EVERY TIME WE PASS THE SHIP SHDHDHDHD

@@zxmbievxmit Ada was worse with hers "did you manage to stop the mechanist?" Ada you were with me you saw me cut her head off and launch a mini nuke into the control center

@@tezlaactual6582 0h I didn't kn0w that but thanks

and a cannon...he gives you a freaking canon

The scavengers shoot you everytime you walk acros them, they are no more than raiders

Plus, killing the scavangers who told you to buzz off before you realise they were tied to a quest is a logical thing to do Probably

@@Enes-wj5xq Actually, they tell you to back off before they shoot you, similar to gunners.

The difference between scavenger and raider is what they are willing to do Scavenger’s don’t like dirty moral work. And raiders would kill and cook you if needed

Cait doesn't like much honestly. Still I did like this quest. It also left a burning question. How did the robots gain access to DMV and Armed Service records? Is there some EMP hardened mainframe out there with a transceiver of the same?

sunac I got max affinity but taking a shit ton of drugs

Perhaps it was accessed through the National Park Services network?

EMP only temporarily knocks out devices, and depending on location, type of device, and a number of other factors, they may still function without repairs after the EMP has passed. I assume in a civilization that has such a preoccupation with nuclear power and weapons that many systems would be hardened against EMP. But that's merely a guess, even if it's backed up by the number of still-operating computers in the Fallout world.

Most government networks don't necessarily cross paths, but there is still the matter of if any mainframes survived the EMP from the nukes in the first place. Robots only have a finite memory capacity. We know The Institute likely had surviving hardware given the presence of it in older sections of the complex, but I know of no college or university networks that connect to state run mainframes directly. It's all a puzzle really. Speaking of EMP from nukes, wouldn't the destruction of The Institute create a strong EMP wave in the local area around it? Many a computer would likely be out of commission without safety measures.

Maxson on the prydwin: (enjoy green tea) I love the smell of burnt synthetic in the mornin- what is that noise? ( USS Constitution crashes into the brotherhood blimp, and minutemen/robot aboard the Prydwin ) Maxson: Godamnit! Dense I want your team on deck imediatly! ..oh right Preston: With this piece of history we can travel across the commonwealth and aid more settlm- (pauses) general I just marked another settlement who need help on your map ( USS Consitution leave ) Maxson: THE FUCK WAS THIS ABOUT!? Dense: I don't know, but I came as soon as I heard the commotion Arthur. Awaiting your order Maxson: HOW DID YOU GET HERE!?

@@psycholaw4394all happening while alarms are sounding and the Minutemen and BOS are somehow allied now

Imagine: the USS constitution takes off, going for a flyby of the prydwen, unleashing broadsides upon broadsides, incinerating the aircraft and everything under it. Ending by landing on the ocean, sinking being remembered as heroes after serving a priceless service for the freedom of america.

Let's hope Jonathan Nolan sees your comment.

Der Fliegende Mocca I agree, the quest never has you specifically kill the scavengers. You are helping the robots they dont like it and attack you.

Well, for example, I have disliked robots since F2, so I would anyway prefer people, who are cunts, to any kind of robot/synth

Andrew Telitsa why?

Beverly Archer just how I feel about it, no reason

Huzzah!

I fully agree, or as a drunk Nate would say, "concur"

*not saying the Brotherhood would let the scavengers take the ship. Would depend how you're role playing. If you're a dedicated BOS soldier, you may see these robots as a potential danger to humanity. They're gaining independent thought and could eventually rise beyond all their programming, viewing the Wastelanders as their true enemy. Ironsides already reprograms robots to serve his purposes so amassing an army of loyal robots isn't improbable. Very least, no true BOS soldier would choose robots over humanity.

@@overlorddante *Builds Liberty prime to destroy institute

@@titipezehealing4348 *who is under their control and doesn't have free will

@@overlorddante the constitution is a valuable piece of technology that no brotherhood soldier would just give to scavengers for money imagine the constitution flying alongside the prydwen

Not a pirate ship

It's a reference to the War of 1812, when a combined Brithish and Canadian force invaded the US and burned the White House, along with a section of Washington DC.

This is definitely a reference.

Alive in a biological sense, perhaps? Good point.

I value these robots mor than synths. They are more human to me than a synth will ever be.

Well synth's and robots are different for one thing the synth's are prettier.

Synths are indistinguishable from humans save for the one chip inside them. Them being able to be turned off can just be put down to hypnosis. It's a real thing. You can "program" a human into responding to certain stimulus. People with PTSD who have panic attacks from a sound or smell are effectively hypnotized to react that way.

@@PlayBoX-qq9kr you need to spend more time with curie and that will change

I don't get it

Ultra Demon Animations - monty python

@@razrdemonic its the building they're stuck on

Thats troublesome because Ironsides may represent what the good the old Commonwealth once was but its not genuine. It was the past and expecting the scavengers to understand is wrong... the scavengers are what they are: people just trying to get by in this day and age. Ironsides has a right to defend... however, do think what would have happened if Ironsides makes it to the sea? Eventually (assuming they can make it) someday they will come across another broken part of the world and hold his old ideals on these people and its your responsibility for wasting time and resources to take away from the people's potential.

@@kiddykitsune8158 but it's the people that are the problem in this scenario not the robots

@@Ro-Ghost no, again this implies who and what they are is causality. It is actions and how responsible said individual(s) are to those said actions. Furthermore, truth be told due to damage done by each choice it's up to whose ideals hold fairer judgement responsibly.

@@kiddykitsune8158 All they wanted was caps 'money', they were willing to destroy someone or something for their own gain. they are not any more moral than every other NPC in the game. I wish they had an option to get the Constitution in the water somewhere, preferably to the Atlantic and be used as a trade and coast guard ship. As a settlement it is a great place to put all your Robots and Railroad Synths.

@Trevor Reasoner he is kind of a keanu reeves but a robot

Another Brit... Still getting my head around why the Yanks don't spot the references; To defend the Constitution or scrap it...

Huzzah and thank you! --from an American

Good point teabag, good point

As a someone who is British I fully want Ironsides or win the war and beat are asses

For me, my brotherhood character I would imagine he'd feel that the robots were trying to save humanity through means of destruction of the chinese

TachankaTHICC i don’t understand this but I love it

I saw this and I went YES THE PERFECT MEME

Also, might be just me, but Ironsides does sound like someone doing a semi-ok Vader impression through much of his dialogue.

Nicolas Fernandez Ironsides got the high ground on the sky scraper, and Kenobi had the high ground on Mustafar

Scavengers: "you underestimate our greed"

Same piper for me would not stfu like omg 😆

Nick Valentine was having quite the dilemma too , kept asking himself "I don't know what I find more disturbing - the fact that there's a ship lodged in that building or that there's still a ship lodged in that building."

dear god… no!

"I’m confused, this didn’t sail up here, right?"

i also had decon with me during this quest lol i wish he had more to say about it though

X2

Maybe if the ship banked to left or right , she would have missed the bank... 😄

Shit, now we’ll never reach Neverland.

Another bank no less

That other building also belonged to the bank it was on before LMAO

Maybe that was the point?

I have x-01 mark VI

jakob brow ok

@@JustAKomiFan i have 5 x -01 power armors mark vi with misc mods

You guys flexing x01s?

I got quantam X01 with jetpack kinetic and mark 7

This line is really funny

I spit at you!

when I first saw that I did the Benny hill reverse salute at it lol

Odassia I completely LOL'd when that happened. And I genuinely laughed, none of that straight-faced loling.

The order was two points to starboard. If he'd given the order "Two points to Port", he'd be in the water.

Odassia To the point of crying because he was so serious🤣 then I realized he did it on purpose😑 I'm still beyond confused.

I died when there was a pause the crash and then him saying...Victory at last!

I thought the same thing

@@Karzipp same over here

yet he sounds like he's voiced by Darth Vader

That would be insane........................ And awesome. Someone should make that a mod.

That would be insane!

If only Bethesda put that in the game :(

Excellent!

Nope, i am sided with both BoS and Minuteman also with Railroad

You've learned a valuable lesson about all women, right here.

Henrik Gyllkrans she's a bag of damaged goods that's why...I can't blame her from her fucked up past

@@I_am_a_cat_ lol

@MRDRAXX could not have said it better myself...

The best way to please her is to pick locks when she is by u...she loves that shit

That is supremely cool.

My 7x Grandfather did as well!

That is cool mate.

Awesome!

That’s awesome

Navy hat, not Pirate hat. There's a difference between sailors and pirates

Whatever, I still want to know why I can't put one on my sentry bot!

your sentry bots are not as good as ironsides!!!!!!!

His voice is kind of close to Darth Vaders.

*Cough* You're welcome - www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11278 It also allows Codsworth's bowler hat alongside automatron improvements and Takahashi's chef hat.

Sieverts if he could be ur companion automatron doc would've made him badass

I've thought since I first found him a bit after the game came out that Captain Ironside should have been a companion. Also, I can never side against him.

well all i can see in his avatar is Jason Sudikis so

he's great until he overheats and had to wait 10 seconds before going back into combat.

I wish the Constitution could be a settlemet or you could send it to a settlement of your choice, that way you could hang out with Ironsides even though he's not a companion.

Pear Rahna shoot a synth 11 years later *dies*

Borderlands Pre-Sequel reference?

Daniel Renwick yes a clap-trap tells you that at the start

Me: (hits robot) Robot: (very slowly) Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ttttttttttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt hhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttt yyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu jjjjjjjjjjjjjjeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkkk!

High on jet?

technically speaking, all they would need to do is give the Constitution a new Surgeon and maybe a box of robot parts.The Surgeon could fix the Bosun, who would then fix the ship and they would probably be able to continue face-tanking skyscrapers all the way to the Atlantic.

Albert 😂🤣😂🤣 you made my day

@@alberttrita5858 and in turn take out downtown Boston Gunners, Raiders, Supermutants etc with debris

Cait’s dialogue is nonsense. She doesn’t like it when you help almost anyone in the game, even the sick boy in Vault 81, so why the hell would she favor helping the scavengers? (Then again, according to the affinity, she doesn’t like you helping either the scavengers or robots)

You could still use the artillery grenades to waste them

".., i spit at you"

Best part is how it goes from one Weatherby building to another.

For real. It was one of those "Are you fucking kidding me?" moments.

did you climb the tower the ship crashed on to get the rare/unique admiral hat? that was my favourite part. the hat and broadsider go together so well!

Hazzatron 2000 yea as soon as I saw it crash I was like are you shitting me and I went up there to make sure my favourite robot in the game didn't die lmao😂😂😂😂

Lmao for real it's a fun quest to play

Is it just me or does ironside sound a lot like james earl Jones?

@@emrik99 He could have been a great Darth Vader if they ever want to continue doing animated shows with Vader in it.

Right? Ox should put it on shirt with a pic of Ironsides underneath. lol

“Opposition: Sand, Gravel, and *Communism.*”

All the robots have such Golden lines "I would despair, but it appears my despair emulator has been forcibly removed." -Bosun

I lol when he said that

According to the video about her,you apparently.

Yes😂😂

Dude I almost sprayed soda all over my screen 🤣

Lol it sails trough the air only to land on another even higher builing. I laughed when i saw it crashland on the other building. A succesfull launch ironsides called it.

*exits power armour and jumps off prydwen*

Ha

Wadsworth:Good morning sir what can i do for you? Vault Dweller:Tell me a joke.

ichangemynameeverydayandiverunoutofideas :} war does not determine who is right, only who is left

(*Playful growl*)

PERFECT SPOT FOR A MIRELURK DEN

PERFECT SPOT FOR A MIRELURK DEN (or as my mom calls them, a murrlurr den)

why does everyone think they're pirates? not once did they pirate anything. you do know that a pirate is basically just a sea raider, right?

@@benthomason3307 You do realize he didn't say they're pirates? It's a meme. From a movie.

After seeing this comment I can just hear the theme

Love your pfp comrade

I r r e l I v e n t

The Dovakhiin: [walks into town wearing full suit of legendary daedric armor] some kid: "I thought adventurers were supposed to look tough."

"You're lucky that we don't gun you down." Me: Bitch, I killed multiple super mutants, raiders and gunners armed with firearms with only a serrated combat knife, some scavengers won't be a challenge

I was so upset that threats or intimidation did not become available as options in that exchange.

Should be a perk that makes low level raiders run away if you're in full power armor

I was thinking the same thing only more in the context of my playthrough being a railroad agent, and applying the values of my role-play would make the decision clear. If I were doing a BoS playthrough it might be a different story.

Well it's a question of what defines a man? The conflict with the Institute vs the Railroad really is one where the Institute says: "We built them, they are machines meant to service us". While the Railroad says: "They're sapient beings with their own thoughts and desires, and that's enough to warrant personhood and freedom". The interesting question for me is the Robots. We see time and time again in the Fallout Universe robots that have achieved Sapience. Have in fact transcended into True AI really. From ED-E in the Mojave, to Codsworth and CVRIE in Fallout 4. And Ironsides would be one of them as well. He CHOSE to overcome his own initial programming, chose to adopt a lifestyle he believed in, and chose his own goals and purpose, ideals and culture. The problem for me is Bethesda really swerves that question outside of Gen 3 Synths because of CVRIE. Even though as a robot she definitely showing such sapience and desires like Ironsides does. Choosing her own fate, to bypass or negate her programming, even her own desires to leave her post and explore the world... the game's script after Memory Interrupted, when you put her in a Gen 3 Synth Body tries to act like the robot CVRIE didn't have those things. That it was only after being turned into a Synth that she had any glimmer of emotion, desires, goals, independence, etc. It's a really odd thing. I'm not sure if it was just a left hand not telling the right what it was doing storyline and thematically, or if it was a case of just some blindness to the questions they were bringing up and why it wouldn't apply to Robots with similar traits.

@@hitomisalazar4073 in my personal opinion and observations it seems like robots get more personality and stuff as they get older. Like there are some robots out there who are completely self reliant and know exactly what's happening... Like that assultron in Goodneighbor. Another example is Curie like you mentioned. Or even the bartender in the third rail. I highly doubt someone programed him to be a sketchy mob guy. Just seems alot of robots developed their own ideas and changed from their former programing... Or at least added on to it. Just my thoughts

That's pretty fascinating. I wonder if they did any ballistics tests for the materials back then.

Justin David I watched a documentary way back when that said that the more were these old school Chinese sailing ships that had fortified front ends to ram the other ship. If I recall they fortified it in a similar way. Wood layering with a metal plate on the front. And this was like way way way back when they were still one of the only countries with gun powder.

Now doing my homework. The reason she got the nickname "Old Ironsides". Is her encounter and victory against the HMS Guerriere. During the battle. The Constitution fired and struck the Guerriere's mizzenmast and reduced maneuverability of the British Warship because of it dragging in the water. The Guerriere unable to maneuver ends up crashing right into the side of the Constitution. Rigging of both ships become tangled and Guerriere's bow gun in effective range. Fires. Though only destroying the Captain's Quarters. Both ships' Captains did an order for boarding but do to the heavy seas. Neither could board the other effectively. Through the course of the battle. Both ships start to twist and were now broad side one another. The Constitution fires a few more broadsides into the British ship causing more heavy damage. The waves and weather finally ripped both ships apart. Causing the masts of the Guerriere to collapse. Basically making the Guerriere a floating hulk of a mess. So in turn suffering a third of her crew loses to death and wounding. The British surrender. The Captain of the Constitution did surprise the British with the Constitution's strong broadside and sailing ability. That the British guns could not punch through the hull of the American Warship. It was stated that an American sailor cried out, "Huzzah! Her sides are made of Iron!" That is where the old girl got her nickname "Old Ironsides". As for the HMS Guerriere after this fight. Well, the ship was so badly beaten that she was impossible to tow back to port. So the American Captain ordered the British crew to be taken on board and the ship burned. On making it back to homeport. The crew of the USS Constitution found out word spread rather fast of their battle and were hailed as heroes.

/White Oak/Live Oak/White Oak/ These materials in this construction for the hull of the Constitution as well as her unique and robust framing made her one tough ship and could've easily outclassed frigates of her class.

Imagine if they made it out of Australian Buloke or Brazilian Ipe.

Damn i didn't know goblins liked fallout

Nat 20, he has us all!

Yes

Does it matter if we did?

Flibber Nodgets I was just thinking the same thing haha

Now I want a sequel where Ironsides gets tossed into lava and has to replace one limb with a fleshy one.

Yeah but these robots don't need caps for food guns, ammo, etc... so I personally went with the scavengers

Jurassic Pranks but then the scavengers betray you...

Jurassic Pranks Then they should started farming.

G Turpin lol so you'd really side with robots instead of helping actual people?

Yes, especially since that was the first time I talked with a scavenger. They always shoot first and die. At least the reboots value human life.

MGlBlaze here's some more fallout logic "Hey, isn't that the guy/girl that escaped a vault with nothing, killed Kellog and a bunch of synth single handedly, and destroyed the institute? And he/she also said in that paper they like blowing things up. And they are in X-01 power armor with a fat man and have a super mutant buddy who ALSO has a fatman? Yeah, I'm gonna mug them with my trusty pipe pistol! I'm sure that nothing bad will happen! If they attack, I can just shoot them!" -Every fallout raider ever

Newer Broom Heh. While it could be argued that the average raider won’t know who you are or have heard of your exploits, it does amaze me how willing they are to take on someone who so obviously outguns them!

JosieJOK yeah, although sometimes, I wish that Bethesda made it so the raiders and gunners "evolved" with the player and got tougher as you leveled up. Getting more advanced armor and weapons, and eventually they get actual power armor. Would make the game much more fun.

Newer Broom I agree!

Newer Broom - you basically just described what they tried to do with Oblivion, and it was pretty awful. Although that may have been more to do with how you could actually gimp yourself by leveling up too frequently because of how the game handled player stat increases.

Same! For something that old and strong, with such an amazing historical background to have survived as long as it has, the very idea of turning it to scrap or burning it makes me feel sick.

@Caesarslegion1 dirty scavver

@Caesarslegion1 imagine thinking that's relevant? Nice job stalking my account just because I disagree with you in a RU-vid comment chain lmfao where did you even find out I "like manga" Poor you

Caesarslegion1 You’re regarded logic.

Words like those get such praise from a bot that says sir

@Caesarslegion1lmao, wtf!? :'DDDD How's manga any relevant to this thread?? X'DD

It's just their programming that makes it seem that way.

@Bigdrake good luck killing library prime

Bigdrake No, Curie and Codsworth are national treasures of Commonwealth.

I like to think given the option, the Ironsides would ally with the Minutemen, in fact, the U.S.S Consitution could operate as the Minutemen's own Predwyn!

JakeSpacePirate E I think it was a huge missed opportunity. The minutemen could've allied with Ironsides and raided the Predwyn using the ship.

Many missed opportunity's are present within this game. Reprogramming Liberty Prime for the Minutemen and attacking the Brotherhood, making more 'Director' choices with the institute, destroying the main factions with the Nuka-World raiders, challenging Elder Maxon to the title of Elder... *Sigh* The list goes on. ;(

Well the minutemen did exist during the time the ship was built

JakeSpacePirate E here's the thing. There is cut content where you could have challenged elder Maxon together with Danse for leadership of the Brotherhood. Huge missed opportunity.

eric saylor stop. Kekistanis are not Alt-Right. All races and creeds are welcome in Kekistan. All religions. Praise Kek, Trump For 2020 and normie get the fuck out.

eric saylor number one, you are the SJW, SJWs say all the shit you're saying. I am completely against xenophobia, sexism and ableist rights. And human rights abuses? Obama inprisioned ILLEGAL children first. Stop it, get some help. PS my mayor is Muslim, and I support him wholeheartedly.

eric saylor and my president, Big Man Tyrone is black, and i will vote for him in the next Kekistani elections.

eric saylor Kekistan was founded by Sargon, who has black ancestry, a mixed race dude, a middle eastern man and a white dude. We are inclusive. Just. Stop. Research your fucking facts before shoving you foot in your mouth.

You are Fucking shit Trump is a fucking racist shitlord with the intelligence of a broken hair dryer So why don't you take your white nationalism and goddamn privilege and shove It you not fooling anyone we can see though your blatant shitty facade fuck off pepe

Surrealist Gal Why do you say that? They were reprogrammed by Ironsides and the ship is the Constitution.

windex Oh I confused alright but I understand that the ship is named after the document but the Protectrons are definitely talking about the ship

That's not true. The United States military's, and all it's robots, goal is to defend the document. List of Importance: -The Document (As in it's ideology) -The Government -The People -The Nation (As in land)

Adam Rodriguez lol

I first was hesitant when approaching them as I was only about level 12 and I went into VATS to scout it out and saw Ironsides with a Skull next to his health bar and sprinted the other way 🤣

That's what I do now. If I see someone who I think may be an enemy, I just lock onto them in VATS. Friendly NPC won't light up red

TheRPGenius Irony and Ironsides. I don't know if you meant to do that or not, but bravo for that my dude

My problem with Ironsides is his objective. You say that Ironsides values human life, but he only values American life. One of the first things he says is that he’s gonna go continue the war with China. Whether he’d attack Chinese citizens or ghouls, now just trying to live their life after also likely being nuked, who knows, but I’m not going to take the chance

The thing is, you aren't aware that the scavengers have no qualms about attacking you if you side with them. If you did, the choice would be easier.

@@JoelCarli *Betrayed*