The Last Journey of the ECS Constant - Starfield Lore 

I may be in the minority on this but I am a big fan of these feature film length videos. Spending hours with Oxhorn or some other content creator is always a pleasure. Cheers!

This was one of the quests where I wish "punch them in the face" would be a dialog option. There are more redeemable scumbags in Cyberpunk than there are decent humans that give quests in Starfield.

Honestly, the best solution for the Constant is to be outfitted with a grav drive. No one should be forced to live as an indentured servant, especially after a 200 year journey.

So excited for Ox to start a lore series for starfield!

I did this quest after the Freestar Ranger quest-- at the part where you go to Hopetown to talk to St James, when I landed, the Security and ONLY the Security was hostile and everyone started running around when I entered. I had to run down St James as he fled in the commotion while avoiding fighting anyone, and luckily managed to catch him into conversation to buy the grav drive! Then had to run through gunfire back to the landing pad to be on my way!

I literally cackled out loud at your Abe impression! I’m so glad you got to finish this questline, even with help. I agree with you and other commenters that the choices we’re given & their outcomes are unsatisfactory. Such an interesting quest potential that was thwarted by major bugs & limited choices. The grav drive choice could’ve been okay, if they had eventually found someplace nice to settle. It would’ve been cool if we could have presented the Constant’s original claim to authorities and get them involved. Another comment said there were laws regarding similar issues on the books that were accepted by all. Imagine how very satisfying it could’ve been to oust a smarmy entitled corporation from a beautiful resort and let the Constant colonists take over that & the planet & even maybe get in a deal to improve the living quarters for them instead of the worker slums that are currently there?! That’s my dream ending.

I can't be the only one thinking about how that ship is probably bigger than the most of the resort. If there was an option to blow up the ship, then where was the option to crush the hotel with the ship?

Oxhorn, I absolutely loved your lore videos for the Fallouts, even rewatched most of them too! I'm so glad to see that you're doing these for Starfield now because I've been going hard at this game!!

Grave drive, but like you was frustrated with their inability to settle anywhere. I thought they would be able to be a built-in community you could be part of. It would've been cool to be the group who helped you build settlements and go through the process of resource collection.

The Abe impersonation had me rolling

Should have either be able to create an outpost for them or help the colonists through L.I.S.T., but there's currently no option for this (at least not without mods, for as far as I know).

any other trekkies notice the crew of the ship were in the starfleet colour designations?

i’ve watched every single one of your fallout lore videos. i’m so excited to be seeing Starfield videos and learning with them. i hope there’s a play through series one day, i’d love to see what the “Oxhorn perfect playthrough” looks like. please keep putting out Starfield videos. p.s. i’ve beat the game twice atm, there’s plenty more stories to unravel - can’t wait.

You know what? You just made me appreciate Starfield. It is a great game although it lacks a lot, there are interesting stories and quests to take on.

I just completed this quest a few days ago. Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but if you have the Starship Engineering Perk, all of the "required" adjustments you need to make to the Constant's systems, will be marked [Starship Engineering]. It makes it much easier.

There should be 4th option, if you completed Eleo questline, you should be able to direct them to Eleo Retreat. Yeah, they aren't ex-convicts, they need proper help. Or maybe you could find a planet for them to settle in and after some time they built a city there. They are extremely vulnerable against Spacer or Crimson Fleet. Oh, I forgot about LIST. But training wise, after reconsideration, maybe Eleo is better to temporary shelter & educate them

The fact that they dont settle after grav drive option pisses me off more than it should. It feels like they just didnt bother to finish the quest if you pick the obvious good choice, which is what most players would do. You could make a case that the captian just wants to keep being the boss, but even that could have been elaborated on. This keeps happening across this game and their other games making them feel wide as an ocean, but deep as a puddle. You obviously cant incorporate every choice a player could possibly make, but here it just feels like the quest doesnt have a proper closure. And if it just so happens you get a glitch were they dissapear from the game, which is more than likely, it makes it all the more bitter

Amazing! I had just discovered this and ounce i had dipped my toes in i couldn't wait to hear the full breakdown and lore and here it is!

This quest has such an intriguing premise that the game barely recognizes and does nothing with. Such a missed opportunity.

I encountered a glitch, I chose to outfit them with a gravity drive but they haven’t left Porrima at all. Many in game weeks later and they’re still there

Yeah that glitch I wonder if it happens because the Ships is suppose to set up a colony but being Bethesda they scrapped that at the last minute. So the ship becomes bugged so easily. Basically a mod will likely need to be made to settle the ship. I wonder if modders could check the code. I bet you there is some code that is suppose to tell the ship to wait so many days or jump so many systems then settle on said planet.

I love the quest. Just hate the glitchyness after the quest if you give them a grav drive. The ECS locator doesn’t work and the quest to deliver letters will not initiate. This quest gives me Star Trek vibes.

I dont know what im more excited for. Playing Starfield for the next few years or listening to Oxhorn tell all the storys of Starfield for the next few years

In my game, after I did the grav drie option, the Constant never moved, and its additional quests never became available. I keep getting it updating the activity locate ECS Constant, but it's still just sitting where it always was.

It only hit me just now, an Australian CEO, “the shark tank”. Clearly an easter egg. Though I’m not sure which one they’re referring to here.

I love this guys delivery

Hello OX I just finished watching you play rage 1 I have terrible arthritis in my. And can't play as much anymore. So I've been watching you play for years I'm going to retire in December. Then I can contribute to your channel😊

Something that's interesting about the Constant is that it takes the theory of what would likely happen to any colony ships we send out today to an alien system. They might just arrive to a world already colonized by humans due to the potential invention of an FTL drive or a space-bending engine. Or maybe might even cross paths with faster ships halfway through their journey.

I wish we could find their claim and have a legal battle or change the claim.

Ox didn't know you had it in you to shoot the owner of the resort in the hotel. Made me lol while almost choking on a burrito

I like Abe. He has a lot of life in him.

As I said several times in the stream chat, we have no specifics of when credits were introduced to everyone. It could be when Earth's nations united before evacuating, it could be when UC was formed, it could be even before the starfield lore timeline started with still independent nations

I did the Grav drive option in my game too and they also jumped to the Copernicus system as well. Sadly, the quest glitched after a day or two and are no longer in my game. I'm trying for achievements, so I guess this is the end of my interactions with the ECS Constant for now. I suppose I now know why the moniker "Bugthesda" is a thing. Hopefully it gets patched one day, but I'm not holding my breath. Hurray for modders though ha ha, thanks for the lore vid, Ox!

Awesome episode, loved your story telling, thank you for your work!❤

I finished this quest, but my “location of the ECS Constant” is bugged and it keeps bringing me to porrima.

I was hoping I would soon take the Constant as my own new ship to fly around with.😢

Forgot you ever existed but I’ve been playing DOOM 64 and you’re the one that taught me about shotgun tracers. So you came to mind. The name is memorable.

I did the quests in question and gave them a Grav Drive which I thought was the optimal response, that was after i made a Hard Save and shot the leaders of paradiso over and over again due to them being so obnoxious. But then I ran into the very same Glitch you had. I am currently in NG+1 now so i wont be reloading and my theory is they didnt get the jump Co-Ordinates right and instead landed up in a star, all hands lost. But I did finish Janets quest to let her go and found her in new Atlantis just one random day but I was never able to finish Abes first quest and the woman I went to see said she didnt want to know more family even after the Persuasion Check.

I been waiting for this, the fallout 4 series he did was F-ing amazing I learned so much about fallout 4

I choose the grav drive option for this quest and now after watching this video and see the different outcomes, I think the servitude option is the best outcome. Grav drive option gives them freedom but the captain always says no, planet not good enough, not perfect enough, in the end they never settled and basicly it turns ECS constant into a jail with the captain as its warden. So between the claustrophobic small space ship who have the freedom to go anywhere but never settled, and settlement on a planet with open space, fresh air and access to newer technology albeit with a catch, settlement is a better choice.

yooo oxhorn i came here to your most recent video to just say that The Riddler: Secrets in the Dark podcast's main character sounds JUST LIKE YOU, its like trippy and pulls me out of it sometimes cause it sounds so much like you

If you have at least one rank in Starship Engineering, it will tell you what option to choose at each terminal during the grav drive option. It's a shame you can't offer to hire Janet for your crew.

Random Minor Note about the history and the "Am I right" bit about 28:30 in. it's pointed out in game that while many did flock to New Atlantis as the Governments of Earth combined to form the UC and start that mission, there were independent settlers. In particular the efforts lead by Solomon Coe which was completely independent of the UC movement. That he launched from Wyoming, America, to the Cheyenne System, to scout and settle Akila. So the Settled Systems didn't entirely spread from New Atlantis. But most of it did as that seems to be where most of the Refugees went. A few that remained in Sol (like Cydonia, Homestead on Titan, etc), and the few exceptions like Solomon Coe's expedition being a massive success.

Thank you so much for this. I love this content, and this strong synopsis touched my heart and even helped me think through some traumas I’m currently dealing with.

Dang Ox I see why you need so much time to complete this lore video 2:42:14 in length

The ECS Constant is such detailed and morally complex lore, the effort put into it really shines when you take your time with the mission. Therefore, it's a shame they didn't take the time to finish off the mechanics of the quest and do final checks on it's functionality.

As soon as I initially came in contact with this group, I loaded an earlier save and waited for this video.

Sounds like Vaultec run space travel

Abe Levitz alone was enough to drop 40K credits to get them a grab drive

hopefully this will be one of the many things that will get fleshed out thanks to the mods, can't wait for the creation kit

Speaking of the twin sisters in the quest, as a twin myself, my brother and I sound similar but different as far as how our voices sound. That’s why the sisters in the game sound similar but different!

U missed something huge. U need to go to the captain’s quarters and find the uniform and give it to Sarah. Sarah’s full name is actually Sarah constant Morgan. She also exist as a ship depending on the instant

The guy is gay and childless but says he is preserving his family's yiddish? How? He could have kids while still gay or teach it to others. No one in the ship speaks yiddish besides him, nor ever will again apparently ....

This is like a reversal of Columbus' discovery, in which you discover a group of explorers and decide their fate instead of the other way around. I guess the message here is that when two "cultures" collide, it almost never bodes well for the side that is less advanced. Our own human history has shown that many times. The same applies here in this quest, with one side ending up with a disadvantaged outcome. The quest also does not give a lot of options to the player to improve the situation for the affected party. But perhaps Bethesda wants to convey the message that in any seismic, historical clash, there is likely a winner and a loser. Again, our own human history has ample proof of that. I picked the choice that allows the people to land on Paradiso, making them "indentured servants", a choice hated by my companions and probably a majority of players. But I chose it because the biggest threat to their survival is THEIR SHIP -- due to lack of supplies, forced euthanasia, outdated ship design, etc. -- which they need to get out of ASAP, get to safety, and worry about the ensuing consequences. The other option, of giving them a grav drive to fly away, is also questionable because these people just don't have the means for survival in a completely foreign world. They just can't be left alone at this early stage, and will always be dependent on others in the foreseeable future.

So Lore Problem. The Breckenridge line died out like 4 generations ago. Once the 1st man died with no sons there are no more Breckenridges. So she is a pretender to the job. So, we need a DLC that helps them actually start a colony.

The premise of this quest would have been a great opportunity for your character to learn about the style systems and it would give you a legitimate reason for not knowing anything at all.

I was so certain that I was going to have to fight an intelligent alien when I bordered the ship

23:10 Well you missed the destruction of earth, the foundation of 3 mayor human space factions with some independent ones around, two destructive space wars, one holy crusade, and much more that am forgetting.

They tried to contact with "lights and sounds" from an old movie? Sounds like a reference to "close encounters of the third kind."

Dr. Solha is a random encounter when i went to the planet to find Barrett if that helps

"We even tried communicating with lights and sounds..." If everything's ready on the dark side of the moon, play the five tones. :P

Strangely enough even while Sarah Morgan was my companion she didn't mind when I shot Capt Breckenridge guess she didn't like the snooty upstart capt that much 😮 though Capt is set as essential so that might have affected the you murderer script

Missed your content ox

This quest glitched after I helped them with their grav drive. It shows their location on my map but every time I warp to them they’re not there. About 100 hours of gameplay and it never resolved itself

7:29 manners ah yes staring directly away from someone and making zero eye contact manners.

The book was also referencing Fallout

This is awesome thank you for doing this Peace and have a wonderful day and let the force be with you this is a space game after all

1:39:01 i also found the ship after i blew it up although in another system. I got to board it but cant interact with anyone lol, the alarm also blaring but they were not hostile to me

@ 2:36:54 You say there's a work around to fix the ECS glitch...... Does that disable all future achievments ? Or is that a workaround to keep achievments ?? Thanks for any information @Oxhorn

I’m still looking for the dam 40 potatoes for the girl who wants off the ship . New ones aren’t loading fast enough in the vendors, I said sorry! Get used to it lady

"Theres nothing you can do about it" gee thats big talk for someone within MURDERING range.

I’m on NG +10 on my Xbox and this quest has broken on me in different ways in different play throughs. I have ECS quests I can’t complete and if I had to do it again, I’d just destroy the ship so I can compete it and clear it from my log cleanly.

I wish there was an option to find the old paperwork and give them the planet.

This quest is missing an option to side with the ECS Constant for their claim on the planet and a follow up to the grav drive option to find them settled down. It's pretty disappointing but I simply got them the drive and set them off as it seemed the best option, certainly better than blowing it up and despite some seeming happy about living in indentured servitude also clearly better than that. It's a shame that just like Benjamin Bayu there is nothing you can do about Oliver even at your own detriment.

We should have been able to “clear out” the resort to let them settle.

If you get the alien costume from new homestead and wear it when you first board the constant they’ll talk about it lol

2:29:33 You can also be sent to new Atlantis and new homestead

Bravo, In my game the Constant hasn't moved at all. Even after "acquiring" all those potatoes. I've delivered 2 of Abe's messages, I was wondering if there would be some way to put them in touch with Phil Hill.

well they are meant to make an outpost after they decide to settle on a random previous planet but it looks like its was bug or the dev didnt polish out this mission option

I really wish we could give them survey data for a good settlement candidate or five, but that's never an option. Missed opportunities, I suppose.

Abe Levitz is such a stereotypical caricature of Nathan Lane that it's actually offensive haha

Love your beard man 👌🏽🔥🔥

there is one other option you didn't mention here but if your starship design skill is active or fully upgraded it shows you what to click so no memory necessary for preparing the ship... you really should consider to "manipulate" the game in a way, like giving youu all the perk points, there are many different options but you don't see them all if you make videos in this way.

Thanks!

So much disappointment with this one. No option to take Paradiso for the Constant? No option to find a paradise world and tell them where it is? Not even an option for them to settle naturally by giving them a grav drive.

What gets me is that she has the gall to ask you to tell all the people on the planet to pack it up and leave. The obvious question is why would they considering they got there first.

Also, Porrima II, with it's Cesium-laced beaches? Perfect? Hmmmmm, not sure I'd agree with that. (ETA) I guess it'll give your skin that "healthy" glow? (Works for ghouls, anyway! :P )

Even my low level Player could take out the security and the board & have The colonists settle on Paradiso... Shame we didn't get that option especially since there's no other quests regarding the planet.

My question… if I wear the monster alien costume you get from the Hospital side missions… will the generation ship security attack me at first contact?

am I the only One who listens to these videos while playing Starfield? 🤔

I don’t like the game but, as always, i love your Lore videos!

Classic sigma oxhorn moment🗿

1:32:24 I'm dying! 🤣

I can't get the letters from Abe. The questline is bugged for me.

Hotel greeter is the voice actress for miss minutes in loki series im sure of it

I didn't like any of the options down on Paradiso, so I tried offing the board, and they're all essential. I was really disappointed with the quest after that.

putting them on the planet might be the best (non-buggy) option since they won't go anywhere else. also it should of had the anility to have Janet as a crew member. ? is there another option to take out the people on the ship (one by one) instead of explosion?

Oxhorn spend more time playing Starfield than other games lately S&SR rarely got the same treatment (either 4 hours of gameplay or less)

I just want to know where this ship ends up, so I can turn in my 2 freaking open quests....lol

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