That’s the fuckin point. We HATE Abby when we first see her, then by the end it’s Ellie we view as threatening. The story flips it on us and I’m glad both Ellie and Abby survive. I honestly am dumbfounded by how shocked Jeremy is for Joel to die early given all the fuckin people he’s killed. Plus, the entire story still revolves around Joel!
@@AlmostaFlipinSkater Yes, this is storytelling 101. We all get it. But clever plot twists do not a good game make. The players can tell when they're being told something and when the message is being pounded into their heads, which Drucky does with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Because all $60+ single players should be designed to be over in 12 hours, eff that. I'm not listening to the herd mentality on this one. Don't rush the long games and maybe people will be able to enjoy and take things in at a normal pace.
Honestly I think he could’ve summed up a review for the game in around 5/6 minutes give or take. But the mans gotta make that Mula and blab for 11 whole minutes.
@@gundabalf If you don't know about "the thing" and want to play the game, then don't spoil it for yourself. But, it's something that pissed off a lot of people (myself included) and they cancelled their orders
They should title it TLoU (something²) just to experiment with it. And after the backlash should just release TLOU part 2 (THE REAL ONE). But what's been done has been done
@@7aemr I mean, have you watched Chris Stuckmann recently? He's the definition of 'bland' as far as reviewers are concerned. So hell yes, I'd rather watch somebody with a personality
@@SPACECOWBOY705 Jeremy is a reviewer, too. I neither want nor need reviewers to be comedians, my point is that it's okay to have more personality than a dead fish, and that jokes are just that: jokes. No need to get your panties in a bunch because Jeremy made a funny about something that happened a long ass time ago.
The reason why it felt monotonous as Ellie is bc she's alone for a solid portion of the game in the 1st game you're almost never alone and your time is filled with ambient conversations that are quite pleasant.
omg you re so right man , the conversations even during gameplay were so memorable I even took the time to listen to all the puns ellie said during sections , this game really missed that. I m so disappointed beacuse I did kinda enjoy the game but it had so many missed opportunities it s mind blowing
Yeah there really isn't a non-memorable moment in 1 bc of the ambient convos. I'd also point out that when you play as Abby you're never alone. I think this is on purpose so you might look upon your time as Abby more favorably and It kindy worked on me just bc I was tired of the constent game loop. I think it's eother too much faith in our love for Ellie or too little faith that their message of seeing things from both sides(Which is FUCKING RICH btw considering how Drukmond has been handling this) gets through it's kind of insulting, but I can't denying that id still give the game a 8/10 I didn't mind Abby all that much bc I kind of already thought of Joel as a shitty person. No offense
I was actually bored playing with Abby BC I already knew the faith of her friends, so I didn't care. It felt like a bunch of filler I was forced to watch. Like when I have to play the Trevor parts in GTA5. It feels like doing homework when I wanna be out.
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida It gets better, Neil Druckmann wrote himself in the game as a supervillain on one of the cards you collect. Dr. Uckmann. A Supervillain who works on controversial experiments that draw criticism from the public.
Except this is just not John Wick, which is a simply entertaining action movie, which depicts action very well undoubtedly. But the John Wick movies are not Blade Runner 2049. Just like the Last of Us is not Gears of War...
littlemar22: Well, after having seen the ending, I can tell you that for me, it definitely isn‘t... everyone else killed by Ellie didn‘t really give her a choice, maybe rightly so. After all, they are human beings in an apocalypse world. Abby at the end just didn‘t want to fight anymore. And Ellie‘s memory of Joel, when she wants to try to forgive him, makes her realize that she has to try to forgive her. Killing her, would just cause another circle of revenge and violence (Lev). I mean, come on. It‘s not like Abby is one simple and purely evil villain like everyone John Wick kills...
@2freeIvX Why does Frodo Baggins matter, he's literally just one character. Let's make a sequel and golf club him to death in the first 15 minutes. If you don't like it, you're a bigot.
I just felt so emotionally drained by the end of this game, like I didn’t want to play it anymore. The final scenes were just hard and pathetic to watch and I kept on questioning why it any of this STILL going on... which I guess is what one would actually feel if they went through the whole revenge plot for so long. Sigh. I just felt empty. And I spent the whole day with a grimace on my face.
Nochu I kinda felt the same! I enjoyed the game but afterwards, last night I was drained., and exhausted and didn’t care so much anymore about the whole revenge thing at the end. I felt the way ELLIE AND ABBY LOOKED LOL. But I hope there will be a 3!!!!
@@TiffanyRainn I've not played the game, but from watching all of the reactions to it, it seems that, that was the intention of the game. To be as gritty and brutal about what revenge is really like, and that seems to me as to why the fan base is so divided, but thats an outsider looking in.
@@th3_tea412 There's literally no point in playing this game, other than them forcing you to learn why the circle of violence happens. After Joel dies there's no point in playing the game any further.
I think that the game was like a good story, and the fact that Joel died was awful, but I think that as you play as Abby, you start to understand that she’s not a bad person. She just wanted revenge for her dad just like Ellie. Like it’s obviously super awful that Joel’s dead, but you kind start to get compassion for Abby when you see her living her normal life. I mean, to her Joel was just this crazy man that killed her family and stopped a vaccine from being created. At the end of the game, I found myself not wanting Abby to die. But I think the finger thing was really unnecessary because Ellie lost the last thing that Joel gave her.
Bruh...its like they're called the AVENGERS imagine they didn't AVENGE anyone. Like what? How tf did Ellie forgive whoever did that?! She killed so many people till that point but to the person who did what she did? 'Oh no you can go its cool I forgive you' fuck off man what kind of bs is that?!
@JustChizzin simple batman didn't kill people from the start of his career while ellie killed a lot of people and then suddenlly she feels like "oh shit my bad you can go now" in the finale, its just the Batman v Superman all over again with that martha bs.
Jeremy, I've gotta say - you should do game reviews more often. This is by far the most entertaining and informative spoiler-free review I've watched for this game. Keep it up!
the ending: ellie meets nathan drake and together they search for the legend of the dragon balls to revive crash bandicoot to help save the world from the Apocalypse. sorry for the spoiler
Tbh at first I'd be like "NO SPOILERS I WANT TO PLAY IT FIRST!" but then if they told me anyway I wouldn't even be mad... I'd be soo happy that they saved me 80 bucks...
He's making it work better than my hair has been. I got too much of my mom's Latin side in me. My hair's too thick to keep in place with hair product without caking that shit down. I'd like to get a haircut, but I still don't trust public places like that.
Fr. It's not a horrible game, but it's genuinely not the masterpiece people were making it out to be. At best it's a 7 but even then thats being too generous
I do remember seeing one. Playing it through a second time and a black cat runs across the street while you’re walking in a particular section. Spoiler... I guess?
"I just want to kill monsters and get to the end of the story" It's okay, I believe there's a cliff somewhere near the start of Abby's story, you can start here.
The pathetic thing is Ellie doesn't even forgive her. She just quits. Just sits there sobbing and quits. There's no emotional catharsis of forgiveness, revenge, hope, accomplishment. Just, sit there after committing small genocide and quit.
*sigh* EXCEPT that Raiden didn't kill Armstrong's father/mother and (in Armstrong's eyes at the very least) doomed humanity to a vaccine-less hell. I AGREE that the story was presented terribly and could have been a LOT better but people it is not correct to make this kind of comparison. Because while I loved Joel and would have rather he lived, he had it coming. Maybe not that bad of a way to go but, it was coming for him.
@@Qthetar Ah yes, if my options are Gravel soaked in Feces and gravel soaked in oil, id prefer to just not eat. Ellies gameplay was G a r b a g e, no interaction, nobody to have banter with and a generally monotonous process of progression. Doesnt mean that ButchClub27 the most 'likeable' character ever is much bloody better.
@@Qthetar And people still don't like her, its almost as if forcing things doesn't work. This is meant to be a video game not a moral lecture, good stories aren't lectures.
The point you touched on with the lessons not being anything new and just not hitting really resonates with me. I feel like the sacrifices they made to the storyline were just not worth the overall message you are left with, so you finish the game feeling utterly unsatisfied and just as frustrated.
@@dlastkatipunero2185 look, it's impossible to have any real gripes about this game. This poster just doesn't get how much of a masterpiece this game is. She doesn't possess the mental faculties to decode the greatness of this game.. or at least that's what all the defenders of this game receiving perfect scores keep saying. We just aren't brilliant enough to appreciate the intricacies of such a master storyteller like Druckman.
@@SumDumGy I didn't, I actively chose not to spoil the game for myself, my friend insisted I look at the leaks but I'm glad I choose not to listen to him but listen to myself. I ain't the only one btw who had this experience.
@@amirlecter8318 I congratulate you then. I was never going to get or play the game yet I seemed to know just about every detail about it by the time it released, even without seeking any details because I didn’t care about it at all.
I don’t think there was anything they could have done to make me come close to caring about Abby Edit: for the record, i understand Abby’s motivation. It makes sense. It’s a good villain backstory. I just lost interest when they tried to make her the protagonist and Joel the villain. Again, i get what they were going for. I think they just forgot that we had a whole game to fall in love with Joel and next to no time with abby before she ripped that away. I just wanted her to die and being able to play as her didn’t change that 😂
And it sucks because she's a great character with a good motive and great character arc. Too bad she was introduced in the worst possible way and the player is told to hunt her down for half of the game and then we are expected to suddenly not despise her. She should've gotten her own game with Lev, who was also a great character, or have Joel's death later in the story so we feel more empathetic to Abby's quest for revenge.
Yeah how about Abby trying to help 2 kids not die while her friends who didn't kill Joel were being killed one by one by the psychopath Ellie and her group?
Not really. I'm following this because it's the bigger writing related shitstorm since Mass Effect 3. Wanted to see how things have changed... back then we only were called entitled and the like. Look now what people that dislike the game are called.
Fast and furious is shit bro. It's for entertainment purposes only, no heart no logic. Just because a certain Vin Diesel says "We're family", it doesn't feel like that. Last of us has that feel. Because they show their relation, every characters vulnerability. Just because a certain Ludacris or Tyrese Gibson makes a couple of jokes doesn't ensure an emotional touch. And last of us is an example why certain stories aren't liable to you to give an emotional sendoff for a character. A person you care for can die horrendously. Deal with it. Because the only thing that matters ahead are your memories of them.
Tom Moriarty Hey Tom I’m glad you liked the game, I really am. Even though I personally didn’t like it, I am not going to demean anyone who did. Having said that however, I do think Joel’s send off could have been better. I get that nobody in this world is safe, but I just don’t buy that Joel and Tommy would give out their names and where they’re from to a group of armed strangers when they both know that a lot of people want them dead. The Joel in the first game would never do that. I feel like they dumbed Joel Down just so they could kill him off. And the F&F movies are just dumb fun, yes. However when it came time to do a send off for Paul Walker, they nailed it.
depends, avideogamedunkey gave a positive review and of course the likes dislikes ratio are fine. And angryjoe has negative thoughts about the game..and the likes are overwhelmingly there
@hasslfoot I had not realized people hated Tomb Raider, Horizon ZD, Mirror's Edge, Beyond Good and Evil, Bloodstained, Alien Isolation (or the first 2 Alien movies for that matter), half the Resident Evil cast, ... can be giving examples all day. They hate seeing characters they loved destroyed because someone had much more ego than talent. I've seen this kind of plot well executed. The characters involved still got plenty of bashing (and reading people call for the painful death of a preteen is more disturbing than anything I've seen wished upon Abby), the writing however didn't.
Joel in TLOU: he doesn't say his name to anyone and kills any stranger he talks to. Joel in TLOU2: hello fellas my name is Joel and this is my brother Tommy and we live nearby. My social security number is 1234
I swear this guy gives some of the best, unbiased and relatable videogame reviews. Idk how but it's like he says the exact things I would say in a review😂
This game honestly might be dubbed "The Last Jedi" of video games in due course of time. Critics are mostly loving it, while gamers are split down the line on it. I guess we'll see what its legacy is. Personally, I quite liked the game, but that's just my take on it. I actually totally understand why people are not fans of it. It makes a decision within the first hour that'll define the rest of your experience.
Finally someone actually acknowledge that one of the main problem of this game is that they choose to go with the whole "how far are you willing to go with vengeance?" and stuff like that which has been explored and used so much already. The first game plot was far more original, a father/daughter relationship but with the twist that they are not related in any way and even dislike each other at first but the world they live in and the fact that they've both lost everything force them to get closer and establish a bond. Tlou Part 2 is not an horrible game for sure, but for me it will always remain a huge missed opportunity.
I get what you're saying. But isn't the whole surrogate father plot-line used in Last of Us 1 pretty unoriginal too. The story in the first game was good because it was told well with a great cast of characters and a fairly ambiguous ending, but thematically it was nothing new. I mean there is a character who is immune, how many times have we seen that before? Again, it's the way the story was told. I would not say its any more or less original than the sequel. Just my two pence.
Harry Davies exactly. People are acting like the first game was somehow groundbreaking in it’s story telling. All the themes explored in the first games have been done to death in movies and tv shows.
There’s nothing original about a father daughter type of bond in a post apocalyptic world. TLOU is inspired by Cormac McCarthy’s book/movie The Road. The plot twist of the first game has nothing to do with them being unrelated. It’s established that Ellie is not Joel’s daughter early on. Joel sees his daughter in Ellie. He doesn’t want to lose her like he lost his daughter.
@@harrydavies7114 I didn't say the first game plot was never been used anywhere, I just said it was far more original than the second game plot, and that's a fact. Part 2 does deliver its many messages in a pretty good way IMO (in the end Ellie biggest fear from the first game becomes reality, she ended up completely alone just for pursuing vengeance), the point is people have already heard that story so many time (in Arthur Morgan words "revenge is a fool's game"). Also I'm 100% fine with killing Joel and that it's Abby doing it but at least write that in a more decent way come on... Joel in Tlou 1: Oh he ain't even hurt (stomp on the gas pedal). Joel in Tlou 2: A room full of armed strangers "YoU GuYs LOOk LiKe YOu'Ve hEArd AboUt uS Or soMeThing".
The way Abby was similar to Ellie’s story felt way to similar that it took me out of it because I just didn’t see that being realistic and it felt forced. I think you have to believe that part to get the message and it wasn’t successful IMO and was paced awfully.
Yes, I found myself groaning wanting to get through Abby’s part. Her character is fine and could be a decent character in a different context, but by the time we play as her, it’s deep into the game and she’s seen as being pretty irredeemable. If the game is trying to make her a good person, it doesn’t work because she’s still an awful person in many ways. If you don’t buy Abby’s story and feel her story is impactful, then the whole game pretty much falls flat.
It's really not spoiler heavy, in my opinion a consumer should know he spends half the game playing as a fucking abomination, instead of the Ellie and Joel marketing
In my opinion, this is one of the few works of media where I think keeping the thing a secret is a mistake. I think it’s a much more enjoyable work when you understand the structure and the point. There aren’t any “twists” in the story. Just things that you don’t know are going to happen, like the character shift/ that’s not a good surprise, it’s an annoying and confusing structural shift. People are like “is this a flashback? Is this five minutes? Ten minutes? What is this?
Literally one of her earliest dailogue lines was her calling him a bigot and the sandwhich a bigot sandwhich. I knew I was in bad terrority after hearing that
Its almost like if you'd paid attention to the game you would have realized her character had grown to the point at which the revenge she wished for didn't fulfill the hole left by Joel's death as she had realized that revenge just made her as bad as the group who had killed Joel. Each time we see Ellie kill a person from that group, we see her actions utterly revolt her. She carries on as Joel's death is still fueling her, but eventually, her conscious catches up and stops her from killing Abby as she realizes that killing her would change nothing.
*Sigh* but the puppy didn't kill Lozel's father/mother did it? It doesn't make it sit right, but i can't agree with people who say this, because you're not the first i've seen and it's not a fair comparison.
@@itsdantaylor the ending would've been fine if things were executed better. but on top of that the game has poor pacing both in story and in game. , the game isnt as bad as peopel think. but peopel saying this is a masterpiece? or better than the first? i fail to see that lol
They honestly should have just made this a spin off with abby so we get to know her story and play through that then at the end she encounters joel and that sets up last of us 3????
I'm not sure there'd be enough story from Ellie's side of it to make it 2 games. Sure Abby's side was filled with enough material to warrant it's own game, I'd agree there, but then again who is gonna want to play as a brand new character we don't know anything about? I guess what they could have done, to address playing as a new character, is maybe not call it 'The Last of Us'. Name it something completely different, admit it's in the same universe, make it so it mostly plays out having nothing really to do with Joel, and then have that twist at the end where we find out who Abby really is and how she connects to Joel...? Idk. Not sure I'd want to slog through 2 whole games to see it through to the end. I honestly struggled in the second half of this game, it felt like it was never gonna end.
To be fair. One good thing came out of this game, just about everyone finding out that "professional" reviewers like IGN, are most of the time bullshit
I think it's so great that people who really loved the game can't understand why someone would hate it and the people who hated the game can't understand someone who loved it People are so comprehensive....
I think the game really would benefit if the campaigns were split into two campaigns so that if you were done with he game after ellie's you could stop there but if you wanted more you could continue playing. Other than that tho I'm in love
I felt exactly the same. The first 15 to 20 hours I was like this is a masterpiece. Then we switched over to Abby, to me she was a very unlikable character. Even though they try to force you into having pity for her. The game completely lost Focus to me. The last half of the game feels like a chore to finish. It just kept going and going....when it should have ended way earlier. I actually felt relieved when it was finally over....because mentally I was finished way earlier. Actually neither of the characters were that likable. I would have rather had a continuation of the Joel and Ellie struggle. Graphics: 10 Sound: 10 Gameplay:8 Story: 5. The last 10 hours of the game were so repetitive. I almost didn't want to finish it. Most of the last 10 hours or so were unnecessary in my opinion. Wait for a discount, I completely agree.
@@lordbono2 Well they maybe should have used good writers instead of doing the hackneyed thing of recycling the Joel and Ellie dynamic from the first game for Abby and Lev.
Well if you payed attention to the flashbacks you see her change because the person she loved as a father had lied to her in a big way. That will change someone. And the other big golf moment would also change someone a touch
@@jacksonwells2902 And Negan has more justification of doing what he did. Rick and the group think so high and mighty of themselves that they literally deserved everything that was coming to them due to their actions.
Jeremy's review is spot on. I agree 100% with everything he said, even at the end where he mentioned the worst thing about the game, and in my head I said having to kill the dogs after you kill the handler.
He's describing the game perfectly. This game is so up and down. The game is far less cohesive as the first and very long winded at times. It's bad that it took this long for a sequel to come up with this.
difference between people who like the game and people who hate it, is that the ones who hate it focus their energy to hate it, but the one that like it focus their energy toward disdaining people who hate it. look at tlou2 subreddit. it's full of people complaining about how bad the game is; and people who complain about people who complain about how bad the game is.
That’s because most people are jumping on the bandwagon to hate this game. Just because the story isn’t as great as people hoped, it doesn’t make it a bad game. It’s one of the best games ever made.
@@LegendaryManSlayer93 hah no, it isn't. It's okay. Great lighting but everything else was kind.. meh. Unforgettable? Sure, but so is Birdemic. The characters are flat, they killed off the only decent character who had actual growth and went "here are two PCs who are really fucking boring and repetitive, have fun!"
Laura Kinney I agree with you! I went in with an open mind and knew about a few spoilers. I ended up drained by the end but enjoyed the ride all the way! Definitely in my top 5 games! So glad I gave it a chance. People hate it so much cause a certain character (won’t mention in case someone reading still doesn’t know) dies..ok I hated that part too but I understand it more. And ok so games may not always tell the story we want., this one didn’t but I sure end up liking the story and gameplay so much..when I just knew I would hate it a week ago!
@@TiffanyRainn for the last of us 2 to end up in my top 5 games... i probably wouldve to play only four games before tlou 2...kinda meh for top 5 game considering there are only very few games with tlou 2 format but I guess people have their own tastes
@Dattatreya Madgula every content creator on youtube has talked about the game in its entirety, spoilers and all. The only reason he isn’t mentioning them is bc he wants to make two separate videos. A spoiler free and a spoiler version.
Great job. This review perfectly sums up how many must have felt. Critiques the game as it should be without toxicity and praises it without going overboard
@@Get_BODIED I hope whatever they had planned for part 3 hasn't been changed because of the backlash... also SPOILERS..... I'm thinking abby knowing about ellies immunity may have a part to play, maybe she eventually finds the fireflies and they have a new doctor who can make the cure. Who knows? But I dont see them leaving the series as it is
@@Get_BODIED lol except Joel and Ellie were the story of part 1. Game doesn't have to be called that and boy look at the ratings of TWD after Rick and Carl left lol. People cared about and loved Joel. Not Abby. Well guess we'll see how part 3 goes depending on sales.
@Stephan Salvatore Would've loved if Joel somehow had a section like the sniper fight with Tommy. Show off what post apocalyptic old man arthur morgan can do when he's crossed
Joe Madel I’m js 😂 Joel already a sniper section like Abby. And I’m glad they brought it back too. The moment I got to that part, it instantly clicked in my head before they even revealed, that it was Tommy. And it felt OH SO good that I was right. It just made too much sense.
Personally if you understood the story and pay attention it makes sense. Joel doomed all of humanity and made a selfish choice just because he didn’t want to loose practically his 2nd child it was bound to bite him in the ass eventually, especially with Ellie wanting to die she just wanted her life to matter and Joel took that from her it’s very tragic and it strained their relationship extremely hard. I knew the sequel was meant to be darker but it’s just a tragedy which it made me react I think the plot was a solid idea but it needed better pacing.
desolation well all the flashbacks and shit were put in terrible spots, maybe if Abbys flashback of her dad dying happened before she played Top Gold on Joel’s head, everyone wouldn’t have hated her off the bat
@@windighost i mean no. in no way is it a good comparison at all. A better one would be John wick's dog being killed by the "Villan" and so he goes on a killing spree to find the "villain" only to realize that the reason why he killed the dog was that it mauled and ate his infant child. And so being struck with the conclusion that the revenge he sought after was being fueled by not knowing the truth and not being able to come to grips that there might have been a reason to the dog's death he doesn't kill the "Villian" and instead lets him go as to stop the revenge cycle.
@William Ber OK, but it's your opinion that it was good. The film was just incredibly divisive and is what lead to a pushback against the sequel trilogy
More like John Wick let's everyone who killed his dog go, after 20 hours of seeing how the spiral of revenge is neverending, and that killing the people who killed his dog wasnt going to bring back his dog or rid him of his traumatic memories.
@@Black_Rabbit_84 still killed his dog and turning the other cheek or walking away isn't the choice many wanted/relate to. I think Jeremy did a fair review but I hated the story.
@@Black_Rabbit_84 The LoU2 marketing and the actual game was determined to make Ellie (and players) want to _Kill Every Last One of Them._ Naughty Dog wanted everyone to hate Abby and pursue her to the ends of the earth to execute her and deliver 'justice'. The game wants you to leave a trail of carnage (and bodies) on your quest to kill her. Mission Accomplished. We killed lots of people and Ellie's obsession became our obsession. Then Ellie doesn't kill Abby and Naughty Dog offers the most flimsy of reasons as to WHY she and the player shouldn't want to kill Abby. We spent 25+ hours on a revenge quest only to quit good ol' fashioned murderin' and hatin' on a passing whim. There are a lot of dead people and broken families who wish Ellie had this eureka moment three days earlier. Ellie knew Joel killed the Fireflies, denied the world a cure to the zombie apocalypse, lied to her for four years, took away her purpose, invalidated her hardships and trauma AND she _still_ pursued bloody, relentless revenge. Tommy also knew WHY Joel was murdered and he still abandoned Jackson, risked everything and wanted retribution. Abby had an awesome revenge motive. Ellie and Tommy's revenge motive was absolutely pathetic. This revenge story was ludicrous, nihilistic and a complete waste of time. The game doesn't do a good job of explaining HOW or WHY Ellie should forgive Abby. Both of those characters spent very little time with reflection, introspection, remorse, etc. Abby betrays the WLF because she has a nightmare. Ellie aborts her revenge mission because of a one second vision (that contradicts her earlier must-kill-Abby vision). Remember, Ellie and Abby are mirrors. Everything that happens to Ellie also happens to Abby. Anyway, Ellie couldn't forgive Seth over a much smaller transgression, but she could easily forgive Abby over murdering Joel, Jesse, beating her pregnant girlfriend and ruining her happy life. The forgiveness wasn't earned. The characters barely had a discussion about their grievances and definitely found no common understanding. The game only shows the story from the perspective of the victim, not the perpetrator. It's kind of hard to forgive without actually listening or thinking about things. The best dialogue in the game happened between Ellie and Nora, but Ellie still beat her to death with a pipe. Naughty Dog was unable to successfully convince the audience that Abby deserved forgiveness and that Ellie should forgive her. The ending seemed like a random, unexplainable act of kindness because we don't see an actual setup. Ellie doesn't learn. Ellie doesn't grow. Key character moments were rushed. They didn't stick the landing, but broke an ankle.
I play all the big titles.... Ghosts and Cyberpunk are next. You pussies crying about one game. Meanwhile I've played ff7, Persona 5 Royal, RE3, Nioh 2 etc.