@@richardtv9859It was said 60% after CS4, so not that much. Maybe one more full arc after Calvard and one-two semiside chapters like Sora the 3rd and Hajimari
@@user-pi7jq1nf4u If I am not mistaken they said this was it for calvard. There are other nations like the Holy city of Alteria, Remiferia, Leman state(HQ of bracers). So like a lot of potential stories in those countries.
@@cionm7077 Remiferia is actually just a big chunk of salt and Leman State... too small for the whole history as i see it. Probably semiside chapter like hajimari, but not the trilogy. Holy city... yeah, probably there can be another full arc, there are still a lot of things church hide
Man so hyped for this! There are many cool details and things to question in this opening. 0:18 and 0:24 notice the red things next to them (same effect as when the title showed), 0:43 Renne's reflection has blue eyes and is smirking while she has gold eyes and is frowning, 1:00 interesting it's Van and Rion against Celis, 1:05 from the preview where the Van's truck got shot and they were surrounded seems Shizuna saves them (you can see the truck destroyed in the background and just wanted to point out), 1:14 the clock in the background (feel like it's important cause in the preview the villain says "the time has come"), 1:34 eyes glowing (idk if it's important but just pointing out), 1:35 images from this opening but backwards, 1:37 Van walking into the light with Mare is cool. In conclusion can't wait for the game and hope PC and english patch comes fast!
The Renne thing is probably her multiple personalities. None of that has been explored in the series yet and there was a moment in the first Kuro where we finally see it on screen very briefly.
@@CalebPorter1105 Doubtful. Very much so. That sounds like wishful thinking, what's the point of developing a whole translation patch if only a very select group of people will be using it? And that's less than the already relatively small number of people that go the extra mile to play things fan translated. In addition you're risking being struck down by Nisa all the while. Its just not practical.
@@sevensvn5391 Sites like animebytes exist. Basically a private site for downloading anime that can only be accessed if someone gives you the permissions to. Piracy exists. Also, at this point Kuro 2 ain't coming out til like 2026 at this rate with NIS. I didn't say a whole ass patch with all of the above. Shit, Hajimari and Kuro 1 already weren't fully translated patches. There will definitely be SOME sort of way to play it. At this point fuck NIS so I don't really care what they do.
When I first heard this opening I thought it wasn't really my thing, preferred the first one by a lot, but more I listened to it the more it grew on me, and it's not like Falcom ever misses with their music so you know
Interesting little detail that Renne's reflection at 0:43 has Blue eyes instead of Gold, and given how the other colours match up I highly doubt that's mundane. Edit: Also it has a completely separate expression than her, smirking while the real Renne is frowning!
Renne has multiple personalities. This was told to us in Sky the 3rd and you can see a rare moment of this come out in the first Kuro no Kiseki. That's probably what this is.
@@CalebPorter1105 I highly doubt that's the case for multiple reasons, the 2 most notable being that Blue is actually her natural eye colour (They turned Gold because of Gnosis) and the fact that the plot seems to be involving the Sept-Terrion of Time and divergant/alternate timelines. My personal theory is that "Happy Blue-eyed Renne" is from a "What if Renne was never kidnapped by the Cult" timeline.
@@Matthias-pj6th It's literally confirmed that she has multiple personalities. Her other personalities came out briefly in Kuro 1. If it wasn't a reflection in a mirror (classic multiple personality imagery) then maybe you might be onto something but the possibility of it being an alternate universe Renne is pretty low imo considering the Singularity in Crossbell that was capable of doing that is gone. Also, I don't think the Sept-Terrion of Time was even brought up at all in Kuro 1 so idk where you got this. If anything I thought it was gonna be the Sept-Terrion of Wind from all the crazy wind monsters we fight in Kuro 1.
@@CalebPorter1105 I never denied she did, I simply thing that the whole reflection ties into the whole "Alternate Timelines" thing going on rather than her Split Personalities.
@@Matthias-pj6th I'm not saying it's impossible and I'd be fine if it was the case but the other Renne is in a mirror, her other personalities are already established, and said personalities were just reintroduced in the last game. Eyes changing color with personalities is also another popular trope in anime as well. They aren't just gonna bring all these things up like that for no reason. Also, the only thing we know of that's capable of creating alternate versions of characters no longer exists and even if we get a cross between an entire parallel world as part of Gramheart's plan I don't really see why another version of Renne is what we would get out of it. It's also possible that the reflection is her other personality but we also get another version of Renne as well. Idk.
I'm already attempting it. Super bummed about NIS shutting down Zero Field, ugh I gotta find a way to keep playing these soon after Japan release! Guess I better study the language hard! ひどい 😭
I literally just finished kuro knowing zero Japanese using Google lens on my phone. I’m surprised how good of a job it did and was able to understand almost everything happening. It is a slower way to play but it beats waiting years at a minimum for it to get localized
@@lightzthestarzI don't know what people problems are with the game and how the west is gonna handle it. But I just got to chapter 2 and this is all straight hype for me so far.
This opening has REALLY grown on me Edit: I will now curse you all with new knowledge This opening lines up decently well with Fist Bump from Sonic Forces.
1:25 Nice nod to the fact that time is changed, since Van was unable to summon Grendel and Grendel Zolga wiped the floor with the 2 of them. Here, Agnes is with them and Van has the power to use Grendel again
Alot , alot happened, just enjoy the ride my friend , sky FC take place on western side of zumeria continent, this one take place on eastern side of continent
For what i see there are 3 big bads - Harwood the fourth anguis who will advance the orpheus plan however there are hints that he has other motive and will take advantage of the chaos - garden master who is after the genesis( from what the trailer shown) who seems to be the antagonist of nadia and swin story and the last threat of garden ( which make harwood the bigger bad of this guy) from what i guess he wants to destroy the world (juging from him surrounded by flames and has probably a nihilistic mindset) most likely a dark reflection of swin and if the theory is true actually Ace making 3 and 9 story come full circle -finally grendel zolga and crimson altera who seems responsible for the red lines seen during the game. He seems to be the most personal threat of the three as Van is his main target and likely the final boss( i think harwood is gonna get killed by the garden master and will then be killed by the power of the genesis) His goal are probably to kill the other demon lord vessel and become the absolute demon( altough altera reminds me of airy from bravely default so she may be using him) If all the time bs really happened because Agnès saw him kill van and elaine than all the distorsions are also his fault Marduk, heiyue, escariot and gramheart are also here but they dont seem to have the same level of importance or threat compare to the three Just a narrative analysis Ps what are you bets in which order the three villains will be defeated Mine is harwood - garden master- zolga
I honestly don't see Harwood dying. The Anguis positions seem to need to be filled for some vital purpose. Unless Gramheart takes his spot or something then Harwood dying doesn't really make sense especially with how big of a presence he made in Kuro. Unless he blatantly goes against Ouroboros with his "Oathbreaking" and gets his just desserts or something.
I think Harwood will be the final antagonist. Zolga is Bermotti, who is not a promiscuous lesbian guy, but another former Garden victim who is mentally conditioned to obey to Harwood (which manifests in the form of seeing Harwood as his type: even a lesbian man, a normal one at least, cannot see Harwood as his type, as he's too repulsive in terms of actions for anyone to ever find him cute, and one like Bermotti who has underworld connections should know how notorious Harwood is). Garden-Master is Ace and he works for Harwood. He's not brainwashed. What Harwood wants to do is to betray Ouroboros and instead of causing a time loop like Ouroboros wants, he wants to use the Time Sept Terrion to change the future in order for himself to gain power. The Church is split between a faction which opposes Harwood and one which is trying to use Harwood, but only because the Church wants to use the Time Sept-Terrion to save the world from its inevitable destruction and recreation in a time loop (which Ouroboros wants to cause) and make it better, and they are going to betray Harwood after he gets his hands on the Time Sept-Terrion (because the Church wants to change the future for good reasons, while Harwood only for personal power). Also, As the game ends, Van is either going to join Ouroboros as Enforcer XVI if he manages to stay in the present, or be stuck in the past with Elaine and father a son who will later be taken from him by the Moonlight Horse and will be known as Ellroy Harwood (Agnes and Aaron are going to be stuck in the past and become Sunshine Agnes and Tycoon respectively). Antagonists are defeated in order: Ace, then Bermotti, finally Harwood. Ace and Harwood are killed in battle, Bermotti will attempt suicide due to mental conditioning but Van will save him.
@@manuelfuica-martineau4940 Yeah, I think there's more about Bermotti seeing Harwood as his type than just being a lesbian for him. I think Bermotti is a mentally conditioned manchurian agent for Harwood
SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW I was 50 % right Wrong about harwood Right about garden master been ace and been the climax boss of the three and nine arc( or the garden saga) Half right about zolga hes actually more or less a underling to garden master and doesnt have much agency in the grand scheme of things but he is as i foretold the final boss fought after garden master
may..be th..ey a..ll di..e..? JKXD its falcom were talking about. they are known for not killing off any character except the captain in YS VIII and Loewe. they are also known for having their english translations get released 3+ years after the release of the Japanese versions.
@@ChaosEater39 Agnes and Aaron are going to be stuck in the past to become Sunshine Agnes and Tycoon. Risette maybe returns to Marduk (who are going to keep being antagonists for long, so prepare to fight Risette a lot in the next arc) or is dismantled and upgraded, Bergard is the Fifth Anguis (though a double agent who has decided to infiltrate Ouroboros in order to expose their plans to the Church), and Judith and Quatre might abandon Van once he joins Ouroboros. Van himself is going to join Ouroboros as Enforcer XVI or maybe be sent to the past with Elaine in order to become Harwood's father.
I hope CLE get the rights for english localization. If you are worried about perfomance issue they could just outsource durante to do the optimization.
its the sequel of trails into reverie which is a sequel of zero/azure and cold steel, so yes it has connection. You will see some of the characters from sky, crossbell and coldsteel appear on this game.
Beautiful opening unfortunately as I play the series on ps4 I should only be able to play after 2024 in english (maybe I already have a ps5 by then). As the game hints at time travel or alternate realities, it could be that the scenarios where you fight Celis or Kasim are not part of the final timeline. Has anyone been able to identify the image that appears in Feri's eye during the OP?
I mean in any Trails game, some sort of time fuckery or parallel world shenanigans is a must. Crossbell and Coldsteel is interlinked in this by having similar openings with different outcomes, Sky's 3rd Chapter albeit in a sham-like version, Hajimari's Rean incident and this.
Will we see the meeting of the Eight Leaves, One Blade practitioners in this one? Shizuna even stated in the last game that she wanted to spar with the Divine Blade of Void.
Damn, watching Sky FC and SC openings and then watching this one is kinda jaring. I do think, that they did the right thing when they changed artstyle and art direction in Zero onwards, but i do believe that charm and campines of the first game in the series is, partially, in it artstyle and direction. They did right by changing with the times and not becoming stale, but the magic of the first two games are unic and i love Falcom for them.
Time mindfukery is strong in this one. Van and Elaine deaths in the trailer aside, the Crimson Grendel wielder looks awfully similar to grown up Swin, they even use same weapons. Also he is trying to "rectify" history and Swin was talking in the PV about atoning for his actions while apologizing to Nadia. But then again, Falcom's foreshadowing is S tier, so there is definitely going to be some sort of subversion.
The deaths were probably changed through time reverse. Also your notice of the Crimson Grendel wielder looking like older Swin and having the same weapon is amazing! It’s true in the preview he said he has to atone which would make sense though it asks the question of how he knows that’s the future him.
Or it could be ace? He look the same as him too. Which is why we see swin fighting him. Also how do you know hr suppose to be crimson grendel? There's nothing showing that
@@tyrell9232 Well, it's Falcom, so even characters which died in backstories are capable of suddenly reincarnating themselves into the plot. So yea, Ace would also make sense. It would also align with Swin talking about atonement as he definitely feels guilty for taking his life.
@@Unknown-ul2zz I’m pretty sure the Crimson Sin Zolga isn’t the same as the guy that looks like Ace. Crimson sin has a completely different outfit on before he puts on the nightmare.
@@tyrell9232 he is the one using Eighth Genesis and he was also talking about creating new world in the preview . But yea, I might be completely off on this one and he simply hunts for the Grendel-Zolga just like everyone else. But if that is the case, it would be weird for Falcom to spoil him getting Eight Genesis in the end.
@@Professional_garbage these people who did the PC patch didn't even translate the game that's all zerofield all 4chan did was take there script and turn it into a translation patch on pc so don't expect a Kuro 2 mod anytime soon if at all
Sometime I wish the would stop doing full English localisations and just do a English sub versions first for people who don’t mind reading and just want to play the games that way we could play them sooner I play atelier games so I’m used to it I know it would meaning making technically 2 versions but they would make so much more money that way
Damn, this red Grendel just seems to got here straight from Drakereider(If somebody except me know what is this, please comment this, lol. The time I installed this game there was about 100 installs AT ALL, and then it just got deleted from app store)
I think Falcom are smart people. I still prefer the Animated openings or the ones we had from Sky 1 to Cold Steel II. I think artwork never gets old, it's timeless and no matter how many times a game is remastered, if you do a good artwork such as Cold Steel I-II for example, you can reuse that for as long as you have the high quallity artwork you used. I know art is expensive. And I guess they are pushing themselves a lot with those expressions because you can clearly see that in Kuro onward the choreography for battles are awesome. Do I want more animated openings? Yes. Do I think the animated openings are less spoilerer-y. Yes I do. At leaast, in CS1, when I see Loa Erebonius, I knew it was a final boss, but what I was seeing was a representation of what I would find in the game, not the scene itself. It got me more curious about how to get to that point and how the game would convey that to me. Now, it's just spoilers XD. I do think the first game opening in this case was better though.
Honestly, I don't really mind too much. It's definitely a bummer but I'd rather they get better at using their new engine because honestly animation and movements are Falcoms biggest weak point.
@@CalebPorter1105 this. The fact they are using their new engine to improve their animation is good and using it for the opening allows them to do better im choreography than they tried to do previously.
Visually this OP is good but in term of music I still prefer Ao no Kiseki Evo opening. Also I'm so happy my prediction for the first Kuro is wrong, take a backseat and stay there Rean, Calvard isn't Crossbell for you to interfere.
@@buttertoast1146 and even if does come back I hope he get Princess Claudia treatment, there for the story but didn't do nothing. Class 7 has many great character, they should have they times to shine like Tita and Fie did in 3/4 and Kuro 1.
Honestly I feel like Kuro 1 was better in terms of opening song. Don't get me wrong I love violin and guitar together but I felt like that was signature for Liberl/Crossbell/Erebonia and new combo will be piano and guitar (plus the violin felt too shoe-stringed in). Namonaki Akumu no Hate was a "this is a fresh new chapter in modern era" - sadly this feels to me like like a step back.
These engines definitely work better than it would have older openings but man I’m still partial to the anime style openings to start out. I guess I also just fear this is an example of them catering to more western audiences which I’m not a fan of.
How do you go from making the best game in the series (Kuro 1) to making the worst right after it, this game should've been a DLC to Kuro 1 it was an obvious cash grab, they needed to release something to please the investors.
I do agree alot of the kuro 2 content felt like filler to pad out the games but the later half got alot better. One thing that majorly bothered me was how unfocused the game was, the routes were okay but Kuro 2 felt like Van wasn't even the protagonist anymore for the majority of the story.
@@jackjohnson8305 I'm absolutely saying that yes. I enjoyed CS4 too but it's wild how you think that game is great when its issues are the same as Kuro 2's but much worse and are throughout the entire game instead of one act
@@Gaht64 Its been years since i beat CS4 so i can't comment on the details cuz i forgot but it was hype from start to finish with old sky/crossbell characters coming back, when it comes to Kuro 2 i may have judged it too harshly when i wrote my OG comment i have since beaten it again thanks to the fanpatch getting finished and i must say my opinion of it certainly improved (ACT 3 was still trash tho, easily the lowest point of the game)
@Ogami except believe it or not, most of it is not in game, if u watch the kuro op 1 u will notice that they made plenty of new animations just for the op. Examples are Van vs shizuna, van vs elaine, Agnes and renne's scene, couple of other fight scenes. Its funny because the animations that they used in the op look far better then the in game counterparts of the same scenes lol. The hajimari op was complete trash where they used mostly same in game cutscenes. U can call the op shit but they are clearly putting in the effort
@@fynaria2221 nah, song fine, and animation clean. I mean the very, how should I say, filling, they didn’t really show anything. when I saw the opening of the first game, everything inside me was screaming, god, I want to play this, it looks so epic, this op? no thanks.
@Ogami yeah, the tales ops are made by ufotable btw, aka one of the best japanese animated studios rn, so it makes sense that it would look good, tales just simply has a waaaay higher budget Speaking of budget, it always bothers me how falcom hires these super AAA japanese voice actors for their games that they can barely afford, which results in the games barely having any voice acting. Like Rean and Van barely being voiced in 90% of the cutscenes lol Maybe if falcom could get their priorities straight, we could get better music composors and better op songs maybe
Just finished this game 10 mins ago! First time for me to wait for the next game release! 🥲 Take me almost 2 years from Sky FC to Kuro 2. I fucking love Trails!
