In other hand that toy created by Positive Grid prices skyrocket because the demands for it is gone wild. It’s all about good marketing. Line 6 didn’t do it properly.
The best metal tone you can get from this is to put the tuber screamer in front of the 5150 and into the V30 speaker cab and make SURE to set up the built in EQ. Use some reverb and noise gate of course. It DOES sound damn good.
Finally a great video about Line 6. My band Devourment goes for the most extreme tones and the dry, harsh, insanely distorted sound is perfect for that, especially playing in very low tunings. I love warm tube amp sounds but that's just not what we're looking for in our music.
@@TaylorDanley Thanks! So this is crazy but my guitarist actually uses a Line 6 AX2 combo amp that has been chopped and put in a head enclosure. I might have to pick up a Spider V because the distortion and tone quality you're getting is pretty close. Here's the best sample of our live guitar sound I could find. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ozTz-2UcWWY.html
@@matrixv01 I miss my AX2 amp! That was one of the first modeling amps ever and I bought it new when they were over $1k lol It isn’t that it just sounds good it’s the way it felt that made me love it. Glad to see there’s still some kicking around.
Too many people want to talk shit about Solid State amps, but it doesn't matter what amp you play through as long as you rock. Fuck all those haters! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
My drummer has one and him and our singer tried to sell me on it for 7 months I wasn't having it. But we sit down to do some DI tracks with it and after I started playing with it I retired my XXX rectifier and got the half stack super cheap and added the FBV 3 foot controller absolutely love it!
totally. i bought a spider V combo on a TOTAL WHIM, and no joke it is one of the best sounding amps i have ever owned. it kills at ANY volume, and integrates flawlessly with G10 wireless and footswitch making for literally the best practice amp ever.
I’m a 52 year old guitar player, I’ve had triple rectos Rivera Knucklehead tre’ EVH 5150 3, I do own a Bugera 6262 now, I don’t use that at band practices. I use a Spider 4 150HD, I boost it with a mesa flux five sounds killer. I don’t have $3000 for a Engl Savage or Mesa TC 100 so, I’ve decided to spend the $500 on this Spider5 240mk2 all the power and really useful features. To my ears it works great in a mix. Thanks Tayler for the demo vid.🤘
I remember getting the OG POD for 99.99 usd from Musicians Friend more than 25 yrs ago and being blown away. My have times changed. I still run an OG red face Spider 50 1X12 at home.
I think the problem is that most People buy the Line 6 Spider combos and those usually sound bad, maybe because of the speakers in those, but running these on a good cab can be interesting as you prove in the video.
I have a Helix but I also LOVE my Spider V120 + FBV3. Gets amazing tones and effects. Plus with the easy to use looper, its awesome for practice. I think one reason theyre so good now is they updated it with "classic" mode or whatever. It sounds MUCH clearer. I can get some really rich full range sounding overdrives with it.
I'm not nuts about mine, its ok, but its just too quiet (I play in a loud-a$$ punk band). If you can find one get a Line 6 Flextone HD head man. I just got mine working last weekend, finally, 2 years after I bought it from Guitar Center. It worked like half a day after I got it home, and was already having that clicking speaker thing intermittently. Within a day or two after purchase I couldn't get it to work at all. Well, I gotta say, THANK YOU SO MUCH. it was your video, when you had the same problem with that Vetta, that made me decide to open it up and see if it was something simple. It was sorta, short to ground on the chassis lid. Just left the lid off and screwed the chassis back into the case, been working fine since. I turned it up to seven, for an instant, and immediately shut it off, it was so loud, lol. My ears literally rang for an hour (no more cranking that thing without earplugs). And that's with one cab, 150 watts. If you make it the full stack its pushing out 300. You'll never get buried in any live mix anywhere again. And the models are pretty good, imo, though I'd love to see you dial the high modern gain tones in. Thanks for another killer vid man.
I think the problem is primarily with the combos. I’m sure these sound great (as demonstrated) through a proper cab, but the combos come with these awful hi-fi speakers and tweeters with trash sensitivities. I tried a 60-watt 1x10 combo once and it seriously sounded like a Positive Grid modeler run through 20-dollar computer speakers - and wasn’t much louder. A Peavey Rage would have buried it alive. I’ve heard the option to turn off the tweeters helps, but I probably wouldn’t even attempt to use one of these if I didn’t have a head and solid cab combo. Great demo!
Allways wanted spider valve head it is a hidden gem of hybrid modelling amps i had peavey vypyr tube 60 For long long Time ago, it had pretty good sound in it too
Always impressed by your videos, but this one could be considered a public service, given the misconceptions surrounding this amp. With the right settings, a proper cabinet and full access to the signal chain, the Spider V head is an excellent piece of hardware for a live mix and recording. Unlike previous models in the Spider series, this is far more - as you noted - like the Vetta II, though I would say that it also lacks in some areas such as dual tone signal chain options and certain mic simulations, but broadly speaking, it offers the same experience and some excellent high gain models with a fairly customisable signal chain. By the way, one can update this to Mark II with a simple firmware installation process available via Line 6’s website. It’ll give you some additional options, including the ability to switch off the FRFR mini speaker in the head that, for some people, makes for a far more preferable classic tone through the cabinet.
I am still playing on a Line 6 Spider III from like 2008: it's not just a "practice amp" but has been behind virtually all of my studio guitar when I'm not doing digital amp modeling on the PC. That amp does not reward a casual relationship, but it punches above its weight... IF you can figure out the dozen or so amps it's copying, and treat it as if it actually BECOMES that amp. Where are all the tonal "sweet spots" on a Line 6 modeling amp? That's a trick question. The models go so far as to capture and reproduce the idiosyncratic contours of the original amps in question--ALL of which are different from each other, and will play differently with your effects. No one should be surprised that working with a Vox AC-30, a 1965 Fender Twin Reverb, a '68 Marshall like Hendrix, and the Mesa Dual Rectifier requires a whole different understanding of how they shape your tone. The Dual Rectifier is like a Mesa Boogie with what I consider overpowered bottom end. If you dial in the most perfect clean tones ever played and then switch amps mid-song for that solo boost, all your settings are in the wrong place and what comes out is nothing but mud. That's not a function of the amp's failure. It's a function of players who don't RTFM when they get the amp, never bother to understand how all the EQ curves controlled by the knobs can differ radically from one amp model to the next. I think after 15 years, I mainly share this amp with people who don't really shape their sound carefully, turn the modeling knob up to the "Insane" setting, and are disappointed with what they get. You can get really great quality out of it if you take the time to develop a working relationship with it, master 2 or 3 of its best models (ignore "insane"; the lightest Crunch setting is more than enough for any metal player with the right rig), and remember that the red Clean tone is the only model included where the knobs work exactly as labeled. Everything else requires a little more time spent exploring it to arrive at the tone you want. I feel this is a thing virtually no one who owns one of these amps actually does, so their tone falls short of what it could be. The phrase "it's a poor workman who blames his tools" is strong in Line 6 world. But I feel the worst haters of this amp are the kind of people who would one-star a supposedly fast $400,000 Lamborghini, while the fans just recognize that they're driving an car with a manual transmission.
The treble bothered me a lot! Here in this same video, we can hear an excess of distressing highs above 4khz. I usually do a severe treble cut from this region to be able to withstand the return of having purchased this amplifier.
All the hate comes from the combo stuff, the speaker in it does NOT pair good with the amp tone. But I've always wondered how an actual Spider head sounded.
It’s not even that. It’s the fact that before the MKII firmware update, the tweeder couldn’t be turned off, which gave it that annoying fizzy sound. Without that, even the combos sound pretty good.
@@ordohereticus3427 it's funny.But,I saw a kid take a fender princeton cheapo amp and put an amptweaker tight metal pedal in front of it and it was killer.We live in some good times for pedals and modeling amps...i remember back in 96 I had a lil marshall 110 and a marshall jackhammer pedal and I thought that killed at the time.lol😜
I find this video so good. My buddy was an amazing guitarist and always used line 6. Nobody ever gave him any grief because it always sounded good. I am not sure the model but it was a half stack.
The phone USB cable is cool because it keeps your phone battery charged! Wish my Katana 100watt Heads had those little edit/menu buttons, they can do everything the apps do without hooking anything up! You need to get the Line6 Wireless Transmitter too, it's freaking awesome! You got the "Classic" and "New Presets" firmware patch installed that makes the MK1s virtual MK2s? It's built-in 50watt stereo speakers are pretty good, way better then the flubby mono speaker in a Kat100 Head. It's got Drums and a Looper too, Katanas don't! I got my Spider V 240HC powering two Marshall Code 212 FRFR cabs, one on each side of the room for max stereo separation now and it sounds amazing!
I Hate the warbly sound of the distortion. It is not at all organic sounding when pushed. The last decent sounding Line 6 gear was Spider IV. It was before the overdrive went all wonky. Still have my Spider Valve to this day and it is a decent ripper
Not as bad as I would’ve thought at all. For recording would you recommend using an amp head and load box or using an axe fx 3 or quad cortex to reamp? I’m stuck in a situation I can’t mic up.
Honestly, I just use plugins. Go straight into the interface, record your DI and there are TONS of great tones to be had with plugins! I really like the TH-U and ML Sound stuff
@@TaylorDanley I hear you, I’ve used the neural stuff quite a bit, maybe I’ll try something else. It just sounds like something is missing with these plugins I don’t know how to explain it.
Hey man. chiming in from the Couv. I still have my Line 6 Spider Valve 112. Bought new in 2005ish.. Sits in the garage now. But it sounds killer when you fire it up. The Bogner designed power section coupled with a Spider iii engine and Vintage 30 is great. And yeah. Compared to my GE 300 and FRFR cabs it does have more low end resonance and a more natural feel. Tell the Tataje brothers Tom says hi.
Thinking of getting one of these too power my mesa 2X12 V30 cabinet. Wondering how it would sound and feel with and without cabinet modelling off in general?
I wonder if they’ll abandon the app as quickly as they did for the AMPLIFi series, which is a lot less panel capable. Been a Line6 guy for a long time but haven’t gotten over that one.
@@JNCGaming yup, the spider valve when they collaborated with bogner, heard people say it kicks ass. they also made the line 6 DT that was even better with the pod hd
If you had to choose between an Ampero or a Spider? Is it just a form factor question more than anything? Let's say I'm (mostly) a headphone player, though I have monitors as well.
I have guitar playing friends who like line 6 spider amps and they get some pretty heavy sounds from those amps. Especially since they know how to dial in a heavy tone correctly. I’ve tried those amps before. Honestly I thought It’s not too bad, but personally I like the peavey vypyr more. I always thought those amps sound more authentic in comparison. This line 6 amp on the other looks and sounds more improved. Especially since there’s more amp models and effects.
Nothing wrong with the Spyder, wish they'd existed back when I started playing.. Though to be honest a Mesa 4x12 will make a lot of amps sound good, even a B-52 🤣
All the hate comes from people trying one out and JUST using the factory presets. Those ALL suck. Once you get into it and work with it to get your tone right and USE the EQ you can get a damn nice sound from it. But DONT even bother with the factory presets because they suck compared to what it can do.
I've heard a lot of good things about the Spider V.My favorite is the Peavey Vypyr,just my personal taste.But cause all the hate the last couple of years they're cheap as hell...do the Marshall Code or Fender Champion if you get a chance...Thanks for the great content!!!This has become my favorite channel.Right up there with Ola,Agufish and Glenn Fricker!!!🤘👍
this amp sounds amazing if you dial it, but im not sure i would trust it lasting for a tour or some... maybe 4 5 backup amps would be the solution, but yea it might last as well.
Friend of mine has had the spyder iv in his jam building for 10 years. He only turns the ac on when we jam so it has sat for years in and out of humidity, had beer spilled on it several times, cranks it to the max and it still jams. On the other hand, my hughes and kettner black spirit 200 failed me within the first 9 months of owning it, had another sent only to have it quit working at the 2 year mark. My friend paid $150 for line six head and 4x12 cab used, I paid 1k new for the black spirit. Never again.
The biggest downfall was it wasn't loud enough to get over drums and another guitar player, so I would have to dime out the volume just to barely hear myself, I only had it for about a month before I took it back and got my Peavey.
My Spider V 240HC is insanely loud! What are you talking about, where you just using the built-in 50watt speakers or did you have like a Spider V 20watt combo or something?
@@jamdalf4343 no I had spider III HD150 head hooked up to a 4x12 cab and I'm sorry, not loud at all bro. I know, not the same amp but the whole spyder series left a horrible impression on me to the point that I never looked at another line 6 amp from that day forward. It sounds like people either love it or hate it, I find myself in the latter.
@@lydiagraham2188 That Amp rates an average of like 4/5 stars from about a dozen websites I just checked. It was obviously defective and you should have returned it for a new one while it was still under warranty or you had it hooked up to like 16ohm cab(s) and thus operating at like only half the volume it's capable of.
@@lydiagraham2188I just got a line 6 spider 5 240 mkii combo so I don't have to toat around a full half stack for practice and gigs, EASILY gets over my drummer at not even half volume and that's just a 2x12. You probably had a defective head
@@lydiagraham2188 There was something wrong with your amp. I had that exact setup and I had jammed with 2 drummers and 3 guitarist at the same time and I wasn't even at half volume. If it was in the house I had to keep it at like 10%. It would have blown the windows out turned all the way up. Sounds like there was some kind of volume limit setting on with it.
Yes They Do! From the Spider V Family manual. SPIDER V 240HC only: built-in 4-way full range speaker system that switches to high frequency mode when an external 4 x 12 speaker cabinet is connected. SPEAKER OUTS - Connect your external speaker(s) here. Your speaker cabinet(s) should support at least 100 watts @ 4 Ohms or 50 watts @ 8 Ohms minimum. SPIDER V 240HC will function without an external cabinet connected. In this mode the built-in 2-way stereo speaker system will reproduce full range stereo audio. Once an external cabinet is connected, the built-in speakers automatically re-configure to reproduce high frequencies only, while the external cabinet will provide low and mid range frequencies.
The amps are not that bad. The hate comes from the countless RU-vid videos of amateur guitarists that have no self control on amp settings and don't bother to shape a tone except turn everything to 10. And by default the amp is guilty by association. Give a noob a krankenstein and they'll find a way to sound like shit.
Lol True. I remember the time i dialed a decent modern metal type tone on a spider 2 in a rehearsal studio with a simple T.scream 808 + tight noise gate + "metal" channel and the other bands waiting outside are like "what sorcery is this??!". The secret to perfect high gain settings is pretty simple and that is to not go crazy on the gain knob. Misha and Ola said it themselves.
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