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Discussing the situation regarding Linkin Park's new vocalist Emily Armstrong
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@StarkBeaumont
@StarkBeaumont 7 дней назад
meanwhile the new drummer Colin still doesn't know if anyone will recognize him in the wild...
@glenmcl
@glenmcl 7 дней назад
Anyone could drum for LP. So easy. I can play it all myself.
@thethingthatshouldnotbe3035
@thethingthatshouldnotbe3035 7 дней назад
You clearly don't get the point lol​@@glenmcl
@SouLP196
@SouLP196 7 дней назад
That’s the fate of being a drummer in a band 😂
@WardenOfSouls
@WardenOfSouls 7 дней назад
as a drummer myself: When nobody talks about you in a Band that gets received as "good music" you have done a perfect job. There are Bands that Focus on Drums in more progessive Genres. Look at Sleep Token or Porcupine Tree, everyone knows II or Gavin Harrison. But in Music like this you rarely are the focus point and it usually feels pretty good to have no talking about you. That just means you are doing good and the people are happy with the music.
@Naikomi95
@Naikomi95 7 дней назад
Who is Lars Ulrich? ​@@SouLP196
@StoriesOfSolitude
@StoriesOfSolitude 7 дней назад
The amount of drama and plot twists that unfolded in less than 24 hours was like an entire cinematic universe.
@violetpotato7072
@violetpotato7072 7 дней назад
I hope Marvel/Disney is taking notes.
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 дней назад
Truly on god 😂😂😂👌👌👌
@thedadwars
@thedadwars 7 дней назад
The LPCU
@karendarrenmclaren
@karendarrenmclaren 7 дней назад
Well, there is good reason
@marcusarelius
@marcusarelius 7 дней назад
Been following the rollout of the band and I don't notice any of it
@Diddy4745
@Diddy4745 7 дней назад
What also has to be mentioned is that Scientology doesn't believe in mental health issues which doesn't sit well with the history of Linkin Park
@VelvetBlades
@VelvetBlades 7 дней назад
This is true. But also doesn't matter. Most people really don't give a shit about their favourite singers religion. So long as the music is great, most people are happy. Can't see why this has to be any different.
@bighosnl
@bighosnl 7 дней назад
neither does the bible, torah and koran. Yet no one bats an eye on that because nobody follows these books to the point anymore. Edit: I mean modern mental health treatment, Scientology does acknowledge mental health issues. Just the cure for it is not modern psychiatric treatment according to them. According to root abrahamic doctrine mental health issues get caused due to lack of faith in god. And therefor the cure is prayer and submission to god. So they also do not believe in modern treatment of it historically. With secularism most Christians, Jews and Muslims probably do believe in modern cures.
@garuda87
@garuda87 7 дней назад
Does anyone even do that? Unless you pray. In general you shouldn't make religion as big as it is. After all, this is one of the reasons why people are killed and wars are fought, which is much worse.
@agamersdiary1622
@agamersdiary1622 7 дней назад
@@VelvetBlades because she is replacing someone who had mental health issues and.... how can you not understand? 😅
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 7 дней назад
​​@@SiriusTexraJust shut up and leave. Your lack of intelligence is showing.
@Catbeans99
@Catbeans99 6 дней назад
Meanwhile, Sublime is back and Bradley’s son Jakob has now filled his father’s shoes as the lead singer. That’s much more wholesome.
@baulzzzzzzz2278
@baulzzzzzzz2278 6 дней назад
They drop anything yet?
@Catbeans99
@Catbeans99 6 дней назад
@@baulzzzzzzz2278 Nope, just live performances for now.
@Captainmaf
@Captainmaf 6 дней назад
​@@Catbeans99Feel Like That?
@TheMattypoo21
@TheMattypoo21 6 дней назад
What happened to Rome Ramirez?
@heyitzLou
@heyitzLou 6 дней назад
@@Captainmafthey’ve also been playing a new song called “No Breakfast” that’s been showing up on their setlist lately. It’s pretty unknown compared to Feel Like That which is playing on the radio for months.
@jordanstrang8056
@jordanstrang8056 7 дней назад
The music world has been very veerrryyy interesting recently. - The Oasis Reunion - The Ticketmaster Dynamic Pricing Controversy - The Linkin Park Reunion - The Linkin Park Singer is a Scientologist Controversy All of this has happened within 2 weeks... Wow
@gergoretvari6373
@gergoretvari6373 7 дней назад
"The Ticketmaster Dynamic Pricing Controversy " let me guess, they keep raising prices?
@jordanstrang8056
@jordanstrang8056 7 дней назад
@@gergoretvari6373 Correct
@BLoud1394
@BLoud1394 7 дней назад
@@gergoretvari6373 Their pricing increases with the number of users logged into their website apparently
@captaindeadeye788
@captaindeadeye788 7 дней назад
Slight detour to metal but one of most well known progressive metal bands, Opeth, is making a return to death metal vocals. Around the same time, Aerosmith has retired from touring.
@antijojo
@antijojo 7 дней назад
Now add the announcement that Kendrick Lamar will be doing the Superbowl half time show.
@AlbusPercivalWulfrykDumbledore
@AlbusPercivalWulfrykDumbledore 7 дней назад
I just want to say they also have a new drummer. Seems like a lot of fans don't even know about that because everyone is focused on new vocalist.
@randomcitizenname
@randomcitizenname 7 дней назад
Also people really gloss over the fact that Brad Delson is 100% studio now, and no one talks about Alex, the new tour guitarist.
@its_always_christmas_time
@its_always_christmas_time 7 дней назад
Most fans probably couldn't even name the old drummer
@KhiemHo-yq9nc
@KhiemHo-yq9nc 7 дней назад
@@its_always_christmas_time and they call themselves fan, what a disgrace
@_.francescodm
@_.francescodm 7 дней назад
fr, I even talked to Colin on ig and is a really good guy, people are just ignoring all of them to hate on emily, fake fans are everywhere nowadays, nothing new
@antcare2804
@antcare2804 7 дней назад
​@@its_always_christmas_timelike that diminshes any way whats going on now lol clown
@frogurtcremebrulee5252
@frogurtcremebrulee5252 7 дней назад
Scientology is absolutely horrid and shouldn’t be promoted. If Emily is struggling behind the scenes to leave, my sympathies to her. If she came out and promoted it like Tom Cruise does, I’m done.
@anthonylong9067
@anthonylong9067 7 дней назад
Given she denounced danny masterson, and apparently he’s got links to scientology, i feel she doesnt accept that cult or is trying to leave it whilst keeping it under wraps
@Eirik_Bloodaxe
@Eirik_Bloodaxe 7 дней назад
Afaik Tom Cruise is trying to get out too
@robotjeans
@robotjeans 7 дней назад
As opposed to Christianity or Islam?
@Primassic
@Primassic 7 дней назад
look into the Roman Catholic Church - tell me you are done with it too if you wanna be morally consistent. I'll wait.
@Ethan-ob6kz
@Ethan-ob6kz 7 дней назад
how is it horrid?
@breguera77
@breguera77 6 дней назад
I don’t think people understand how dangerous it is being an ex-Scientologist. They will ruin your life if you speak out against them
@chefbehc1870
@chefbehc1870 5 дней назад
I’m seeing a lot of this comments but where’s the proof of this being a thing ?
@solarnewborn
@solarnewborn 5 дней назад
@@chefbehc1870Research Lisa McPherson and Elli Perkins
@mordoklejka2261
@mordoklejka2261 5 дней назад
@@chefbehc1870 just look on Tom Cruise biography :D
@Katuln
@Katuln 5 дней назад
@@chefbehc1870 The Person bringing this topic into public (ex-member) said in his statement that his dogs got poisend by Scientology. It's not really a secret that leaving the cult will have consequenses. That's how to make sure people rather stay than get themselfs and family members in trouble. By the way, she is queer - which is against the cult's principles so i doubt she's deep into it.
@deeperatmosphere
@deeperatmosphere 5 дней назад
If you Not speak out against them they Ruin your Life too. Maybe save other peoples lifes and speak out instead, Like Leah Rimini did.. At the Moment it doesn't seems Like she is an EX-Scientologist at all, and that's Not a good Look.
@themattyburns
@themattyburns 7 дней назад
You’re the family member who sits down with the young ones and explain the situation straight up. You need to rename yourself “Uncle of the Scene” Nik Nocturnal.
@ohherewegoagain
@ohherewegoagain 7 дней назад
😂
@StuartMitchell88
@StuartMitchell88 7 дней назад
Uncle Nik
@akmetalhead95
@akmetalhead95 6 дней назад
Unc Nocturnal? Nik Uncturnal?
@Jurrx
@Jurrx 6 дней назад
@@akmetalhead95 new secondary channel, where he explains the world of fun metal thiiiuiuuiargthns
@Full_Metal_Angel
@Full_Metal_Angel 6 дней назад
Alright kids sit down we need to fucken talk.
@gehx
@gehx 7 дней назад
In the end it doesn't even matter.
@kimsmart100
@kimsmart100 7 дней назад
🎶 ❤
@eagle-eye29
@eagle-eye29 7 дней назад
Of course it matters. Maybe not to you. I'm sure it does matter to the women she has harassed.
@__D-B__
@__D-B__ 7 дней назад
​@@eagle-eye29 That went flying straight over your head.
@nocgod
@nocgod 7 дней назад
​@@__D-B__ that's because he is looking for something to be angry at and get offended by...
@GigaChad-hu3de
@GigaChad-hu3de 7 дней назад
Bro chill
@jeanpitre5789
@jeanpitre5789 7 дней назад
Being a metal vocalist with no controversies difficulty: impossible
@adriantrusca1245
@adriantrusca1245 6 дней назад
How is Linkin Park in any way shape or form metal?
@jasv49
@jasv49 6 дней назад
Possible as long as you're the first vocalist in a band, if you're a replacement no chance
@ectobluntus
@ectobluntus 6 дней назад
​@@adriantrusca1245from Wikipedia. Genres: alternative metal / nu metal
@digitalmortality2001
@digitalmortality2001 6 дней назад
@@ectobluntus i wouldn't really trust wikipedia with music definitions but you do you
@rsmtuneremaps3505
@rsmtuneremaps3505 6 дней назад
Linkin park = nu metal… only real LP fan knows ✅
@haydenbuckner1181
@haydenbuckner1181 4 дня назад
So we went from a relatable, damaged, wholesome and caring lead singer to a spoiled brat who's been in LA her whole life and was rich enough to drop out of high school because her parents knew that LA nepotism would work out. Pretty sad and just shows how bad our society has drifted from appreciating people with pain, and instead lifting up those who most certainly don't deserve it. GG
@ArmitagedBand
@ArmitagedBand 7 дней назад
I think it is MUCH more complicated than "Emily is a scientologist, we need to boycott". It appears like she was born into scientology, which is extremely difficult and dangerous to leave, and she would be basically guaranteed to lose connection with her family. If she says shes part of it, people hate her. If she says shes against it but stuck, then she loses her family. If she says she was in it, but left and doesn't believe in it, then she still loses her family. She can't address it at all. However, it can be IMPLIED that she doesn't side with it due to the fact that she is queer. Scientology is HEAVILY against LGBT, so she clearly doesn't agree with at least that part. We can't just oversimplify it, we need to see more.
@zw_ncfc
@zw_ncfc 7 дней назад
If only the court of public opinion was smart enough to realise this
@aether_antares7761
@aether_antares7761 7 дней назад
Finally someone with a rational thought and high IQ points. I was getting tired of the tiktok vids that go crazy and basically hate her eventhough that they dont have all the facts on the table.
@DayKlight
@DayKlight 7 дней назад
understandable, but why chose her then.. weird move, since she doesnt bring any special vocals. so you pick a scientology women, who is either stuck there and cant adress it etc. get millions of fans pissed off at you for that move and have to deal with all that pressure. should have just picked someone else...
@IgnacioLopez-p9t
@IgnacioLopez-p9t 7 дней назад
​@@DayKlightJesus fucking christ...
@monstertj9861
@monstertj9861 7 дней назад
​@@DayKlightbecause she is a good singer and songwriter, performs well live and fits perfectly with LP sound.
@Juttutin
@Juttutin 7 дней назад
It's important to acknowledge that scientology is fundamentally opposed to all mainstream mental health practices (psychology and psychiatry).
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 7 дней назад
It is also important to point out that you can't just leave. They will destroy your life.
@ashleynewton9083
@ashleynewton9083 7 дней назад
So don't join
@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord
@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord 6 дней назад
Audit yourself!
@henrivaenerberg2623
@henrivaenerberg2623 6 дней назад
​@@ashleynewton9083doesn't really apply in the current conversation as Emily was born to scientologist parents. She's been part of the cult before she could walk.
@Dreded100
@Dreded100 6 дней назад
its also important to acknowledge that scientology is fundamentally opposed to homosexuality and Emily is openly gay. Her parents are in it and raised her in it, doesn't mean she stayed in it once she was old enough to think for herself. But as Nik mentioned, it is dangerous for her to straight up come out and say she isn't in it anymore,
@Kameranium
@Kameranium 7 дней назад
This shit right here is why we can't have nice things.
@lol858lol
@lol858lol 7 дней назад
We can, but they decided to go with someone with this much baggage 🤷🏻‍♀️
@VASILY.IsMyLoV-rn9kj
@VASILY.IsMyLoV-rn9kj 7 дней назад
@@lol858lol this much baggage = nothing wrong. FY crybabe.
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 дней назад
I mean what we have now isn't nice in my opinion I'm just saying because it ain't 😅👌
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 дней назад
​@@lol858lolMHM.
@alexbrown4426
@alexbrown4426 7 дней назад
​@danteshollowedgrounds there's always going to be a problem for you, regardless.
@bottomofastairwell
@bottomofastairwell 5 дней назад
I get why people are pissed. Linkin park's entire legacy is built on being a band that helped us get through tough shit in our own lives, in being one of the first bands ever to bring the conversation of mental health to the mainstream. So for their new singer to be mixed up in a religion that outright doesn't believe in psychology or mental health, it's not great, especially when you add in Chester's legacy and all that. But i feel for her too, coz being born into a freaking cult can't be easy, even if she has lowkey left it, she's still gotta be hyper aware of what will happen if she should choose to publicly disavow herself of them. Only thing i don't get is how the rest of LP didn't anticipate this Fallout, especially knowing that people were gonna have a visceral reaction to ANY new singer. And surely they could make some kind of statement. Linkin park being like, the biggest band ever, has gotta have enough resources to protect her from any potential Fallout from the Scientologists, right?
@Ellie-rx3jt
@Ellie-rx3jt День назад
It's rarely physical danger that cults put you in. It's isolation, vague threats, and reprisals against your lived ones who stayed. Your choice to leave a cult that your family and friends are part of doesn't just affect you.
@JustSomeKittenwithaGun
@JustSomeKittenwithaGun День назад
No worries I anticipate every Fallout, especially the weird articles that try to frame mods as brand new games.
@sean_mccadden
@sean_mccadden 7 дней назад
On the Scientology thing, I grew up in a very extreme religion that practices shunning, which has led to peoples friends and families completely cutting them off and even emotionally/physically abusing them because they were either disfellowshipped (expelled essentially) for wrongdoing (wrongdoing can be anywhere from associating with people outside the church, to actions such as smoking/drinking heavily/etc to much more extreme actions like infidelity, etc). Understanding that I kinda feel for Emily for being born into Scientology so separating herself could lead to losing her friends and family and even them tarnishing her name. These "religions" are experts at manipulation and do well to trick you into believing bad actions are being done for good, which is what it sounds like with the Danny Matterson case.
@Kawabongahlive
@Kawabongahlive 7 дней назад
Looks like LP can't get a lead vocalist that hasn't had a problematic upbringing...
@kohiek
@kohiek 7 дней назад
That must have been rough to experience or see. I am glad that you were able to realize the pain that the religion caused.
@sean_mccadden
@sean_mccadden 7 дней назад
@@Kawabongahlive If they were to bring in someone. Wouldn't they want someone who can understand the lyrics?
@Tabbyhasbees
@Tabbyhasbees 7 дней назад
Oh no it's worse than that. Look into Leah Remini and her experience trying to leave Scientology.
@sean_mccadden
@sean_mccadden 7 дней назад
@kohiek Yeah, I honestly got lucky. My mom left not too long after and never judged me for the choice I made. The rest of her family wasn't part of it, so we had our support system. We lost a lot of friends, but honestly, we're better off. I still wish them the best though.
@pythonl0rd584
@pythonl0rd584 7 дней назад
its been like a day how is stuff already going down
@vosoryan
@vosoryan 7 дней назад
Cancel culture idiots jumping to conclusions
@drnkds
@drnkds 7 дней назад
liberals
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 7 дней назад
Slackers want a piece of fame
@cainescouten-chappell362
@cainescouten-chappell362 7 дней назад
It’s the internet, honestly I’m surprised it took this long. That said, I don’t care about the drama. I care that the band and the crowd seemed to be having a blast. I enjoyed the live stream, but I’m also a logical person who wasn’t expecting a carbon copy of Chester. He was one of a kind, so expecting an exact replication is unrealistic and unfair to anyone who even attempted to try.
@itsRiske11
@itsRiske11 7 дней назад
There are always people with a loaded gun to dig up old shit people did to try and ruin a good thing.
@tylersomething3222
@tylersomething3222 7 дней назад
Finally a bigger RU-vidr acknowledging this instead of acting like its not happening. Nik is the man 👍
@InkAndPoet
@InkAndPoet 7 дней назад
Fantano just released a video on the situation, too.
@pglove9554
@pglove9554 7 дней назад
Nik playing it safe...
@enterppp980
@enterppp980 7 дней назад
Jesus. The man just wanted to hype, calm down.
@mrdrprofsteve4455
@mrdrprofsteve4455 7 дней назад
@@pglove9554bro he doesn’t have to take a stance. He does fun metal things. Not every RU-vidr has to take a stance about everything that is happening in their sphere
@therpgerer
@therpgerer 7 дней назад
​@pglove9554 "playing it safe" bro, people are getting TOO invested.
@kaitlynmarie5545
@kaitlynmarie5545 6 дней назад
I'm not really sure what can be done at this point. She put out a decent explanation of the Danny Masterson event, but it wasn't positively received and there's new accusations that she did a lot more than go to one preliminary trial. On the scientology front, she was born into it. If she were to come forward and say she doesn't support it, she's putting herself and also her family in a dangerous situation. She's in a lose-lose situation and I feel bad for her. But at the same time, this has really damaged Linkin Park's image for me. I was fine with the idea of them finding a new vocalist and continuing the band but it needed to be handled tastefully and respectfully, and this was not it. Even if we wake up tomorrow and find out her statement about Masterson is 100% true, and that she left scientology years ago, the way Mike Shinoda and the other guys have responded to this situation has been horrible. Deleting comments, complaining that fans need to respect them more, either thinking the people were too dumb to realize the Emily controversies or that they wouldn't care....The list goes on. This band had the trust and love of so many people and they threw it all away for what?
@justingovas415
@justingovas415 5 дней назад
But the problem is, those are all accusations with almost no evidence. I have scoured the internet and found nothing concrete. The only people losing trust and love honestly are hard headed people who don't think in nuance I'm sorry.
@stxrfighter
@stxrfighter 5 дней назад
She doesnt even sound good tho, sounds like a mediocre cover band and everyone is pretending it sounds good because they dont wanna be called sexist
@Slade-2556
@Slade-2556 5 дней назад
Though true we also gotta remember the church could have connections to get such evidence hidden. They did it for masterson for years before he got caught, so its likely such actions made by emily and others could've been swept under the rug by the church too.@@justingovas415
@sickopathogen
@sickopathogen 5 дней назад
We don't pretend, You think people care about being labeled sexist on the internet lol Watch the live stream, she was great, a few voice cracks here and there but overall it was amazing, some of those songs are really hard to sing live i don't know what you trolls have for ears but go get checked@@stxrfighter
@alabaster193
@alabaster193 5 дней назад
@@stxrfighter I'm a woman and I think she sucks.
@IkeTV.
@IkeTV. 7 дней назад
I know nik nocturnal is gonna watch this video.
@brundle_fly_3895
@brundle_fly_3895 7 дней назад
This is nik..?
@kormareads1441
@kormareads1441 7 дней назад
Circle this comment in the screenshot
@brundle_fly_3895
@brundle_fly_3895 7 дней назад
@@kormareads1441 god damnit 😭
@T533-V2
@T533-V2 7 дней назад
oh hey ike
@rasbowsreptiles7310
@rasbowsreptiles7310 7 дней назад
LMAO this is my type of humor
@lolnocody
@lolnocody 7 дней назад
When LP dropped 'In the end' my fifth grade self had fallen in love that day.
@maiamystia
@maiamystia 6 дней назад
I was in the 7th grade, we had a young teacher that served in the army (a replacement due to our original teacher having to leave due to pregnancy) who allowed us to listen to the radio during art class, and that's when I kept hearing "In The End" for the very first time. 🥰
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 6 дней назад
I discovered Linkin Park when my parents played "Bleed It Out" on the radio in 2009. 8 year old me loved it, and I've been a fan ever since.
@rebekahcarter8120
@rebekahcarter8120 7 дней назад
Thank you for a balanced view on this. You make a great point that there's no way in 2024 that the rest of the band didn't know about the scientology stuff.
@laraglass4773
@laraglass4773 7 дней назад
They have the same label. To assume that they didn't know that she supported Danny Masterson is naive. She not only supported him but also harrassed the victims. It wasn't several years ago. It was LAST YEAR!!
@GhostNappa2k10
@GhostNappa2k10 7 дней назад
​@laraglass4773 This is FACTUALLY NOT TRUE. She never harassed the victims, at all. She went to the first part of his trial, found out the truth about him, and cut all ties. She never harassed his victims, either. Basic research will clarify this.
@suddenswarm5944
@suddenswarm5944 6 дней назад
@@GhostNappa2k10 I don't like it but this is where it's important to look for answers rather than people attacking different parties, more stuff has come out from the other ex members claiming she was part of the harassment, I'm just letting things unfold and both sides to say their piece before making a judgement
@zerik_media
@zerik_media 6 дней назад
​@GhostNappa2k10 and that's why she's still a scientogist in good standing? And that's why there's video evidence??
@IwonaKlich
@IwonaKlich 6 дней назад
Honestly they know. Also they do better research than most of the yappers.
@Stanginsean281
@Stanginsean281 4 дня назад
The fact that Chester’s grown son is making posts about Mike, who he 1000% has his personal contact is the sad situation we live in with social media. He’d rather get clout than voice his opinion in private to someone, I assume he respects.
@GetShwiftyInHere
@GetShwiftyInHere 7 дней назад
Thank you for keeping an open mind. This is why I respect you, Nik!
@JohnAndJohner
@JohnAndJohner 7 дней назад
Thank you for the reasonable approach, Nik. I might be deaf, but I didn't hear you mention that Emily was born into scientology. She didn't choose to be a member, and vocally leaving scientology will ruin your life.
@specialkonacid6574
@specialkonacid6574 7 дней назад
I was born into the Jehovah's Witnesses. Can i use that as an excuse to not denounce them? I couldn't live the lie so i left and it cost me all my friends and family. Now i have new friends and my own family. If people can't or won't stand up for what's right that is their choice. I for one will call out these evil cults at every opportunity.
@JohnAndJohner
@JohnAndJohner 7 дней назад
@@specialkonacid6574 So because you went through a horrible experience, you demand other people do too? Ignoring how scientology is way more powerful and Emily is a lot more important.
@einalt
@einalt 7 дней назад
Her own mother is head of the harresment department,those guys that will ruin your life, she directly works with miscavage. It's like she's Goebbels daughter. F this band
@EversonBernardes
@EversonBernardes 7 дней назад
@@specialkonacid6574 I mean, it would be understandable if you chose not to denounce them publicly if doing so could possibly cause harm to people you still love like family and friends that are still part of the cult, as it's known to happen to people linked to Scientology. I'm happy you manage to remove yourself from that situation and commend you for standing up against cults, though. It's the right thing to do whenever possible, and I'm glad it worked out for you.
@specialkonacid6574
@specialkonacid6574 7 дней назад
@@JohnAndJohner try reading my comment again. I said people are free to choose. Personally I couldn't live the lie so i left. If she doesn't believe in Scientology why stay?
@AtomicRiftYT
@AtomicRiftYT 6 дней назад
I'll be honest, The Emptiness Machine seemed to me (and some other people I've spoken to) about a huge vent song about Scientology. The messaged absolutely seemed to be something akin to "I was manipulated because I felt like I wanted to be something greater, and they tried to turn me into someone I wasn't while I kept lying to myself about it being what I wanted"
@harishsubramanian1241
@harishsubramanian1241 6 дней назад
The problem is that sentiment can equally be applied to the fanbase and the band's haters. Because everyone wants them to be something that they don't want to be.
@ragingmonkey4592
@ragingmonkey4592 6 дней назад
@@harishsubramanian1241 Is that a problem? Maybe the band members feel connected by a shared understanding of what this is like. Being constantly tried in the court of public opinion.
@harishsubramanian1241
@harishsubramanian1241 6 дней назад
@@ragingmonkey4592 well I misspoke, it's not a problem so much as it is an open ended interpretation
@ODSTGeneralYT
@ODSTGeneralYT 6 дней назад
@@harishsubramanian1241 Maybe, though I would say there wasn't really any issues with the fan base until after the song and the live show released. So I don't personally believe that to be the strongest argument. But you are correct about lyrics being open ended and open to interpretation. Only the person(s) who wrote the lyrics actually know what they mean. Look at Fortunate Son by CCR. Most people think it is an anti-war song, but John Fogerty stated it was more a song about class and how the wealthy were dodging the draft. Maybe there is accuracy in assuming the lyrics of her previous work and Emptiness Machine apply to her views on Scientology, but its equally possible it is completely unrelated.
@Elzzaw
@Elzzaw 6 дней назад
It was about society and social media. Yes, Scientology is weird, but so are all of you for giving two shits about this drama. Get a life.
@kakashishinoda
@kakashishinoda 4 дня назад
You know what I think people should stop judging other people, I fix their own mistakes first. Because they act like they righteous, that they are the holy saints. But in reality, the people who are screaming the hardest are the people with the most skeletons in the closet..
@MrSolidsnake293
@MrSolidsnake293 2 дня назад
you're missing the point of the issue entirely
@The_Highrise23
@The_Highrise23 6 часов назад
You should read up on Scientology and their beliefs on psychiatry. Specifically on how church of Scientology has treated people who struggle with suicidal thoughts.
@crazidoode
@crazidoode 7 дней назад
As much as Linkin Park is considered one of the greatest bands of all time, but the same time, they’ve dealt with the controversial trials during their lifetime and this is from my memory: When they abandoned their nu-metal sound on Minutes To Midnight When they went full experimental/electronic on A Thousand Suns and Living Things. When they went full pop on One More Light. When Chester screamed and threatened their fans because they hated One More Light. When Chester died. And now with this new vocalist controversy and maybe to Mike and the guys, it’s really nothing new to them. They’ve taken the hate so much, they’re just Numb to it at this point(lol sorry). But as much as Emily Armstrong has admitted her mistakes, people and fans want like a capital punishment to be done to Emily Armstrong and I believe that’s not the best answer. Acknowledge your ill-conceived actions and apologize sincerely and work on bettering yourself from there. But to others, that’s not good enough. Edit: Thank you for your strongly expressed and diverse opinions, didn’t expect any responses honestly lol.
@Ryan-ys2bq
@Ryan-ys2bq 7 дней назад
I loved Linkin Park and still do but one of the greatest bands ever..... what the actual fuck... no one considers them in that pantheon
@talkshow69
@talkshow69 7 дней назад
​@@Ryan-ys2bq You're seriously moronic if you think that Linkin Park aren't one of the greatest bands in music.
@Megaman231122
@Megaman231122 6 дней назад
​@@Ryan-ys2bq Changing genres is no where near as big as "the new vocalist is part of a systemic institution that defended a serial rapist for 20 years and tried to murder the prosecutor in the process"
@staceyb4186
@staceyb4186 6 дней назад
Bro, she didn't even said sorry to all victims of Danny (for his support). And her IG story with "apology" just funny, bc I def sure that pr or producers made it for her. She didn't even wrote it herself.
@Alexander-ct2hn
@Alexander-ct2hn 6 дней назад
Of course people are gonna hate cause they have nothing good going on in their lives
@codybischoff1010
@codybischoff1010 7 дней назад
Just let it play out. I’m hopeful they vetted properly and she’s distanced herself from a lot of it. From what I read she was born into it, if that’s the case and she’s been trying to get out for awhile that is a TOUGH situation
@purplehax1091
@purplehax1091 7 дней назад
and she’s openly gay which is forbidden in scientology
@ryanspencer6778
@ryanspencer6778 7 дней назад
Mike has known her for 5 years. If he or the other members saw any problems, she wouldn't be the singer. They know her a lot better than we do, so I'll defer to their judgement on it.
@JohnAndJohner
@JohnAndJohner 7 дней назад
She's probably told the band in private that she doesn't particularly like scientology. Saying it publicly will result in one of the most powerful cults on the planet ruining her life, which is encoded into scientology. You're literally allowed to leave, but only if you never speak about it ever again.
@peppersprayer
@peppersprayer 7 дней назад
@@ryanspencer6778money talks so I am not really sure they care,if they didn’t care about money they would have started a new band.If you go see them live you are going to see just half of the original members anyways
@ryanspencer6778
@ryanspencer6778 7 дней назад
@@peppersprayer if they cared enough about money to overlook baggage like that, they'd have made a pop album instead. It would sell way better.
@austinxwade
@austinxwade 7 дней назад
I think most people would be pretty shocked at how prevalent scientology is in Hollywood / LA as a whole. They've got a headquarters church that is literally bigger than the hospital it's next to, they've got over a dozen very large buildings for productions and recruitment, they have entire apartment complexes dedicated to their members, it's a monolith in that city and so. many. people. are part of it that you'd never expect. It is fucked up and gross and sad and they prey on people but like... I dunno man. That part of the Emily thing feels like a nonissue to me. A lot of very similar horrific and fucked up shit happens in the catholic and christian church too but we don't equate and pressure every one of its members like this.
@ehhh2547
@ehhh2547 7 дней назад
One could argue that the whole system of scientology is much more predatory in nature, but the Catholic church protects literal predators
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds 7 дней назад
Yeah, for most normies or people who haven't been into conspiracy theories as much so heavily it would make sense... I tried to ignore it and all by just knowing about it but looking into the fun nice things and all umm yeah if it comes back up though I do get the flashbacks... Not so nice seeing some big content creators on this platform be part of that place and cult... Randomly unrelated but the Doctor. Eric Berg guy on YT here was part of the scientology group and had a feud with his son about leaving the group if you've ever dug and seen that hot mess.
@LaceyArtemis
@LaceyArtemis 7 дней назад
I watched a video earlier that basically suggested that Danny Masterson roped everyone on That 70s Show but Topher Grace into scientology (including Kurtwood Smith and the mom I forget her name). It really is scary what cults can do.
@Carl-Gunderson
@Carl-Gunderson 7 дней назад
Both Scientology and the Bohemian Grove are extremely close to the the music/shows/movies industry.
@Blitzbrie
@Blitzbrie 7 дней назад
Yea this is my issue with this. Her beliefs are pretty crystal clear in her work and lyrics, yet everyone just seemingly assumes she must buy into the most extreme forms of this belief system, she wasn't even there by choice she had none since she was born into it. If this was any other religion literally no one would be talking about this. Absolutely no one knows her story or whether she's even still part of it. It's like assuming everyone born in a christian household must hold the most extreme christian views, or that everyone born into islam automatically believes in jihad. She has never ever outwardly promoted scientology either, that's literally their MO as believers, to spread it. Crazy how there's absolutely no nuance. She's been getting way too much hate for someone who was guilty merely by association. She literally did nothing, and she obviously feels remorse showing up the pre-hearing before the trial began.
@bradh6529
@bradh6529 6 дней назад
They should've just did a rebrand
@GainHP
@GainHP 6 дней назад
This too. It would have also made better relations on Chester’s family. A good example is how Nirvana ended and Foo Fighters became legends with another music style.
@GeorgeSoroshasenteredthechat
@GeorgeSoroshasenteredthechat 3 дня назад
I agree. They should have returned as Emilys band with a few ex-LP musicians. Framing it like that would make the lack of Chester, Rob and maybe even Brad ( health issues) seem much less of an issue. All Mike had to say is that the boys still wanted to make music together, and they'd started a project with Emily and Colin. Replacing a drummer might be ok to keep the show running, but the singer is the soul of the band.
@darknqss
@darknqss 2 дня назад
Why? Linkin park is just a name, it doesn't correlate to anything really there is NO reason to change the bands name
@wolfstorm5394
@wolfstorm5394 День назад
Exactly! That's what I'm saying, they should have done the right thing and retire the band name, rename it to something else! Just make a new band! This is not the way! She doesn't fit!
@wolfstorm5394
@wolfstorm5394 День назад
​@@darknqssDude do you have any idea how much weight that name holds? I'm assuming you're obviously a casual who has no clue
@johnathanspore2378
@johnathanspore2378 7 дней назад
3:44 wait so she didn’t even outright support him? She just showed up to a court case as support. Heard what he was accused of and hasn’t talked to him since? People make a big deal out of anything lol
@SilvyReacts
@SilvyReacts 7 дней назад
Pretty much. It's not really even that unusual for friends to support friends in such cases cause at the time you want to believe them. The fact people are going after her for this is silly. Do we now need to think twice about coming to the defense of someone in a court case just in case they actually might be guilty? Should we just automatically assume everyone is guilty by default? But what can you expect from internet mob mentality. They don't think, they only attack. And even when they end up wrong and know they were wrong, they learn nothing from it.
@JJDeAth96
@JJDeAth96 6 дней назад
Intimidating one of Danny's witnesses doesn't sound like "just supporting a friend"
@johnathanspore2378
@johnathanspore2378 6 дней назад
@@JJDeAth96 do you have any actual evidence of this or just repeating something you’ve heard? I’ll take Emily’s word over a rando on the internet. If she says she hasn’t talked to him in years then she hasn’t talked to him in years
@CraigKostelecky
@CraigKostelecky 6 дней назад
@@JJDeAth96 In situations like that, it is clear that one person is lying. It's easier to believe your friend and assume that the accuser is the one being untruthful. It's hard to accept the truth that those close to you can do such terrible things.
@mandolore19
@mandolore19 6 дней назад
Scientologists are always evil. Always.
@najahex
@najahex 7 дней назад
If anyone watched the interview they had, Mike Shinoda had said that there was a lot of things contributing to why she was chosen, she fits LP's dynamic and family values, they AREN'T REPLACING Chester, they just want to make music and have a good time, and they liked Emily. And like Nik said the band is probably very well aware of her past, and I'm sure that they don't agree with what happened, and the scientology stuff, perhaps they are giving her a chance.
@danielle5980
@danielle5980 5 дней назад
Very well said
@alefnull
@alefnull 7 дней назад
i'm fine with her response on Danny Masterson. as far as Scientology goes, i hate Scientology to the core, but i don't hold a person's religious beliefs against them, no matter what i think of those beliefs myself. so i really don't care. she sounds good, the band seems happy with her, and that's good enough for me.
@nachobusiness5295
@nachobusiness5295 4 дня назад
You would've thought she killed someone with how people are acting towards her. She has a badass voice and is NOT a replacement. It's a new chapter, Chester is gone and we need to let him rest. I hope I get to see this band live since I never got the chance to as a kid.
@coolbeans5911
@coolbeans5911 2 дня назад
Definitely this
@Caleb-F
@Caleb-F 2 дня назад
Emptiness Machine feels like a Linkin Park song to me, Emily just needs a fair chance. I'm glad to see them putting music out again.
@MrSolidsnake293
@MrSolidsnake293 2 дня назад
no
@kenshii9d147
@kenshii9d147 День назад
Why does she need a chance? She should be able to prove herself. Not because you said so
@Caleb-F
@Caleb-F День назад
@@kenshii9d147 she already proved herself. She's in the band. It's the fan base that isn't willing to give her a chance.
@kenshii9d147
@kenshii9d147 День назад
@@Caleb-F are they obligated to?
@mateuszwwex5127
@mateuszwwex5127 23 часа назад
@@kenshii9d147 no, band gave her a chance, you don't like it you don't listen, simple That's why I dont' listen to Hollywood Undead after Deuce that's why you don't have to listen to Linkin Park. and remember. Chester wasn't and will not be a saint person why are we doing saints from every person that died. and what do u say aboyt As I Lay Dying vocalist then hm?
@lucasbuckman1503
@lucasbuckman1503 6 дней назад
Why can't people appreciate music for what it is without trying to tie the craft to who the person is? No one can truly know what Chester would think; however, he just loved the music creation process, so I believe he would've wanted that to continue. He will never be replaced but I'm stoked to hear new music from a band I grew up on. Emily fits into the architecture of the music and brings her own approach to it so that's all that should matter. 'The Emptiness Machine' sounds like it could be on any Linkin Park album from 'Minutes to Midnight' and later, more importantly, it's an absolute banger of a song.
@garypinholster1962
@garypinholster1962 4 дня назад
This has to do with the fact Chester Bennington, the man that MADE Linkin Park what it is. Had mental health issues and suffered while the scientology community would say they don't exist. Almost all Linkin Parks songs are about mental health... why would any fan of the art be excited to see someone that would dance on the grave of the old singer as well as have no emotional ties to the art? I mean it's not hard. No one is mad about a new vocalist. They're mad that the vocalist is not a good person.
@The_Highrise23
@The_Highrise23 5 часов назад
You should read up on Scientology and their beliefs on psychiatry. Specifically on how church of Scientology has treated people who struggle with suicidal thoughts. And that’s not even the worst of it. It’s not about how good the music is. And it never was
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed 7 дней назад
Thank you for speaking up on a logical perspective
@Aaron_LH
@Aaron_LH 6 дней назад
He didn't say anything lmao 8 minutes of "that's crazy" followed by "what do YOU think?"
@perlundgren7797
@perlundgren7797 6 дней назад
​@@Aaron_LH Comments tend to turn out better if you watch the video first.
@Aaron_LH
@Aaron_LH 6 дней назад
@@perlundgren7797 might wanna take your own advice there sport
@perlundgren7797
@perlundgren7797 6 дней назад
​@@Aaron_LH Please give me a couple of timestamps proving your point. Can't be that hard when there's 8 minutes of just that, right? 🙂
@ImaFrakkinNinja
@ImaFrakkinNinja 4 дня назад
I think the only thing that has to be said is her with her beliefs attached to Linkin Park with Chester's mental health struggles, and her past comments, is that I will not be listening to any of their content any longer. It's actually unconscionable.
@felixp535
@felixp535 7 дней назад
Here's my take on this: - She has explained regretting supporting a bad person. Everyone makes mistakes, it's easy to misjudge people. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt and forgive her for now. - She is part of Scientology. Is she a victim of the sect or is she part of the people making money? If she's a victim, people should help her. If not then yes, this is a very bad problem, but I don't think that's the case.
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 7 дней назад
She's a victim, and she can't talk about it in public. They will make things a lot worse for her if she does. Because that's how cults work. They are incredibly draconian and (most importantly) petty.
@lightborn9071
@lightborn9071 5 дней назад
SHE did not write anything about regrett, that was her PR manager, who obviously hasn't informed themself on the case enough, as she was INDEED there together in a group of scientologists wich intimitaded the victims for messing with another member of scientology and said group had to be shut down by force.
@b.g.3786
@b.g.3786 3 дня назад
If she was a victim she would´nt be allowed to sing in a famous band. She has influence I tell you that.
@callisto2895
@callisto2895 3 дня назад
She's both. She was a child slave at their ranch. But also her mother, who openly defended her sexual orientation, writes the propaganda pieces against the people who leave. If anyone is in a safe position to leave, she is. Twenty years ago it would have been difficult. Today the ex-cultist community is pretty big and vocal and alive.
@MrHorse115
@MrHorse115 6 дней назад
Meanwhile Colin is just chilling lol poor guy killed it on the drums and no one is talking about him (Psa Rob is my idol as he got me into drums in the first place but in terms of moving forward I’m happy with the choice of Colin)
@SrenOliverDue
@SrenOliverDue 6 дней назад
People comment on LP like they are shareholders in the band
@StefanoMauri-l4w
@StefanoMauri-l4w 5 дней назад
Secondo questo ragionamento stupidissimo allora nessuno potrebbe piu parlare di niente! Sono stanco di questi commenti estremamente stupidi
@efim_061
@efim_061 5 дней назад
@@StefanoMauri-l4w it is stupid if you take it too seriously as you do.
@Nofinator
@Nofinator 4 дня назад
They're stakeholders though which is sometimes an even more powerful position. That said.... I don't agree with the outrage and entitlement.
@noxe6413
@noxe6413 4 дня назад
welcome in today's world, where everybody has all the rights in the world and is entitled to everything.
@SrenOliverDue
@SrenOliverDue 4 дня назад
@@StefanoMauri-l4w wah wah wah
@misberave
@misberave 4 дня назад
LINKIN PARK is back after seven years with an amazing song, and people have nothing better to do than discuss about the personal life of the singer… just sad. I haven’t seen any video about the debate because I simply don’t give a fuck. I love the new song and I appreciate Emily vocals a lot
@GemnEyes
@GemnEyes 3 дня назад
Do you care about SA victims?
@kunderemp
@kunderemp 6 дней назад
If I'm not mistaken, Emily has made statement that she has regretted supporting Danny Materson. "Soon after, I realized I shouldn’t have. I always try to see the good in people, and I misjudged him. I have never spoken with him since. Unimaginable details emerged and he was later found guilty". Regarding scientology, I don't think she need to answer in this near period.
@Themaskplague
@Themaskplague 5 дней назад
She 100% needs to adress it. If she is a Scientologist she shouldn’t be in the band. Scientology denounces mental health issues . Considering Chester’s background and how he died , you can’t have someone replace him who basically doesn’t believe in mental health issues . It makes a mockery of Chester
@Darth_Spyro
@Darth_Spyro 5 дней назад
​@@Themaskplague if she addresses it in the wrong way, the church is going to come after her. It's a cult. Can't easily denounce it and leave. It follows you.
@islamulbashev8179
@islamulbashev8179 5 дней назад
@@Themaskplague she doesn't owe you anything. especially since she became the lead singer
@GodzillaKyru
@GodzillaKyru 5 дней назад
@@Themaskplague She literarily has some songs that pertain to mental health, two being Suicide and Losing My Mind. Also, I'm sure some of her songs were about being against them. I'm still going through the catalogue and learning the lyrics as I go. Also, if she was to publicly denounce CoS, she'll be cut off from her family and she could be a target of harassment or worse. I rather her stay safe than possibly risk her life.
@Gotejjeken
@Gotejjeken 7 дней назад
Plot twist, Emptiness Machine is about Scientology
@theoddpear9700
@theoddpear9700 6 дней назад
I bet it is, you can absolutely hear it.
@MasterGordon5115
@MasterGordon5115 6 дней назад
Maybe it is Emily like lashing out heavily how she's trapped in Scientology. The lyrics lightly match to the situation she's in/ Maybe I'm reading into this too much. Idk
@kgal9657
@kgal9657 6 дней назад
I got real MLM vibes with the "I just wanted to be part of something" lyric. The song is kinda bland to me.
@theoddpear9700
@theoddpear9700 6 дней назад
@@MasterGordon5115 yeah like c'mon "Gave up who I am for who you wanted me to be". "I only wanted to be part of something" "'Cause there's a fire under the alter" Surely right? They've already explained how they'd chat about the things going on in their lives and shit and then they can work that stuff into their music.
@MasterGordon5115
@MasterGordon5115 6 дней назад
@@theoddpear9700 "Falling for the promise of the emptiness machine" That line hit me the most. Maybe "The emptiness machine" is her referring to Church of Scientology so
@Sdmstudios_
@Sdmstudios_ 7 дней назад
Honestly for her safety knowing what Scientology has done to people in the past, she shouldn’t say anything. She was born in it, she didn’t join it with means her entire family is in it. I don’t doubt that she’s left Scientology, she’s an openly gay woman which is not welcome in that cult. It’s more so if she does, what happens to her family. Chance is she could be excommunicated from them entirely which is another problem in itself. She didn’t choose Scientology.
@macielynn7761
@macielynn7761 7 дней назад
She is a grown woman now. Please go watch the videos by The Scientology money project, Growing up in scientology, and SergeDelMar.
@Sandans14
@Sandans14 7 дней назад
​@macielynn7761 it doesn't matter. Grown adults can be a victim of threats and manipulation, along with shady business practices, is that really hard to understand?
@macielynn7761
@macielynn7761 7 дней назад
@@Sandans14 It does matter. Watch the videos and see if it changes your mind
@monstertj9861
@monstertj9861 7 дней назад
​@@macielynn7761if you were botn into islam and you were in Iran and you happened to be gay. Now think about the choices you have? You can't judge someone for their family religion. If she had chosen it herself then it would be different.
@macielynn7761
@macielynn7761 7 дней назад
@@monstertj9861 then she needs to speak out against them and we are not in Iran.
@d3rksgreasyreview
@d3rksgreasyreview 4 дня назад
It's Pinkin Lark! The band formerly known as Linkin Park.
@guitarlearningtoplay
@guitarlearningtoplay 2 дня назад
How do you figure she is a good fit? She is in Scientology!
@styranki1966
@styranki1966 7 дней назад
These upset people are a vocal minority. Most fans of any given artist simply do not care about the artist's personal life. The rest are those who do follow the artist more closely but are reasonable enough to let go of their hatred when the controversy is addressed. In the end, it won't matter much. These people will eventually have given up. There's more excitement going around than hate among fans.
@zw_ncfc
@zw_ncfc 7 дней назад
The minority are always the most vocal because they think their opinion is the only one that matters
@justsomeguy727
@justsomeguy727 6 дней назад
"in the end it won't matter much. people will eventually have given up" I see what you did there buddy
@strigers8007
@strigers8007 7 дней назад
This type of situations make me fear being famous man. I don't think i can live with so much pressure over my actions knowing that anything i did at any point in my life can cause this type of scandals and controversy from people who are quick to judge you as if they are bringers of justice.
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 7 дней назад
If you don’t have any allegations then it wouldn’t be a problem (if you did do something bad then you shouldn’t be famous to begin with)
@austinfj98
@austinfj98 7 дней назад
@@Milo-it1tfhey man. We are all human. People make mistakes. Allow people grace, allow people the chance to make things right. Fame is a massive magnifying glass on a person, you could probably find something about most people that would be considered questionable.
@192palmforest
@192palmforest 7 дней назад
@@Milo-it1tf Go cancel RDJ then.
@kiernanmooney6210
@kiernanmooney6210 7 дней назад
It's interesting. We all think about how awesome being rich and famous must be-- everyone loves us and we can do whatever we want and we can take care of all out loved ones. But it's only the image that we see. But-- people make mistakes all the time. Art is one of those things that allows people to reconcile the darker parts of their lives where they seriously messed up, and so much of Chester Bennington's songs were about that; not just the pain that was brought to him, but the pain he passed on to others. It's something we all do. If you want to be a famous artist of any type-- I really think the only way to handle is to own yourself one hundred percent and absolutely completely, because any issues that you might have are only going to be amplified because famous people are under constant scrutiny. Not to mention, committing your life to an art form is not for the faint of heart-- we all THINK we can do it, but it takes some serious fucking commitment and discipline and COURAGE to put yourself out there. So-- you never effing know what's going to come up. I don't believe that people who have made mistakes deserve to live in misery and eternal penance, but when the chips are falling, the only way through is honesty and that same level of self-knowledge and courage. Life is constant test of your mettle. You are going to make mistakes. You are going to hurt people. Everybody suffers. And all of us... ALL OF US... deserve better. (written by someone who's been runnin' around and sinnin' for 40 years)
@Slypooch
@Slypooch 7 дней назад
@@Milo-it1tfto be fair a lot of it is bs
@cammiluna
@cammiluna День назад
If Emily left the church, the church would keep a close eye on her for a chance to consider her dead to them if she slams on them. If Emily is still with the church, they're gonna keep a close eye on her for both how she's dealing with the backlash and the fact they hate music that talks about struggling and complains about life itself. I once had a boss that was a scientologist and he would openly talk about how millennials just wanting to listen to morale-reducing rock music while demanding more pay without doing more work to earn it. I remember standing right in earshot of him when he said that to another employee. I think he glanced at me, his millennial employee wearing three hats for minimum wage pay while Evanescence can be heard blasting through my headphones. Anyway, I think for me, Emily's voice just needs a lot of getting used to. It took several listens to Emptiness Machine to get used to her screaming hooks and like the song, but in the livestream where she sang Chester's lyrics in the older songs, she sounded so unbearably cringe. I hope those old albums never get re-recorded with her, but look forward to hearing the rest of the new album.
@meltingkeyz3689
@meltingkeyz3689 6 дней назад
Funny how everyone on the internet acting like they're saints once faced with change. Emily is just a person, a human and not just some mindless follower. People are sooo quick to judge someone because of their past and what they've done. Acting like themselves haven't done something they regretted. No one is perfect, neither is Emily. What she is, is someone respecting the legacy of Chester and honoring not only just him but the Linkin Park as a whole, including the fanbase. What she is doing now, is breathing new life into the band, moving on. If you actually watch the live show, you can feel the passion and if you watched the interview, you can feel the connection they all have. I've been a fan for the longest time and sure, Chester can never be replaced and that's the thing, they're not trying to, so enjoy like they are.
@biggerfish123
@biggerfish123 7 дней назад
Danny master-masthis-mathen-sin-son. You’re killing me bro😂
@TheBirth2end
@TheBirth2end 7 дней назад
Love from Japan
@bon_grippah
@bon_grippah 2 дня назад
I grew up a skater listening to linkin park, Scientology ruining both
@CDKrenik
@CDKrenik 7 дней назад
Emily was far from the only person to initially support Danny Masterson; Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis did too. And I think Emily was born into Scientology, the same way other people are born into Lutheranism. And in all seriousness, as "controversy" goes, these are small time. I honestly think that the people who uncovered this story are just upset that Chester has been "replaced" and want to ruin the experience for everyone else.
@Chimpy1
@Chimpy1 7 дней назад
Nah, they could have gotten anyone else. Rumors at first were that they asked amy lee which would have been badass! This is just a huge fail especially considering two founding members dont want anything to do with this.
@Lorraine-l5f
@Lorraine-l5f 7 дней назад
@@Chimpy1 OMG, Amy Lee would've been amazing!!!!
@Chimpy1
@Chimpy1 7 дней назад
@@Lorraine-l5f im saying 😭
@SallyS99
@SallyS99 6 дней назад
You can't leave scientology and still be able to have contact with your family and friends who are in.
@bararobberbaron859
@bararobberbaron859 6 дней назад
@@SallyS99 And people who would take a hateful cult over you are people you want to keep in your life? Seems like an easy choice.
@jarvisangle85
@jarvisangle85 7 дней назад
I just came here to say I love Cedric and At the Drive In.
@Chimpy1
@Chimpy1 7 дней назад
Same i love both bands but i was always TMV>LP
@jariemonah
@jariemonah 7 дней назад
Really unfortunate that he believes the MAGA conspiracy theory that Chester was fighting human trafficking. Like wtf.
@ancientdragon6049
@ancientdragon6049 7 дней назад
S tier frontman and band
@Hadgerz
@Hadgerz 7 дней назад
That novel written by chester's son makes him come across as so fucking unhinged. 'Quietly erased my father's life and legacy in real time' ... does he think the band is going around burning, deleting and scrubbing chester's contributions from the history books? Why do people present bad faith arguments hyper-exaggerating everything to the utmost possible extreme...then wonder why others refuse to engage with them?
@SilvyReacts
@SilvyReacts 7 дней назад
Ya, I am actually pretty surprised by his comment. It's over exaggerated and ... it sounds like he has some past beef with Mike or something.
@tmw3489
@tmw3489 6 дней назад
@@Hadgerz just reminding you that you have zero proof of this and don't know anything. Chesters estate have made a third of what they should because of Mike's business decisions. It is called publishing.
@elijahloveell8809
@elijahloveell8809 6 дней назад
He’s right though
@isengarde9490
@isengarde9490 6 дней назад
@@tmw3489 So...By this logic, the kid is mad his dad didn't have MORE money for him to grub after he died? Furthermore, what makes *you* any better of a source than the original comment? Do YOU know the inner workings of Linkin Park's financial management? No, I doubt that, if you knew anything about finances, you wouldn't be watching petty drama on RU-vid, you'd be too busy scamming people out of their life savings to care about the dirt of a lead singer of a band you like.
@danielle5980
@danielle5980 5 дней назад
@Hadgerz, hes also come out now saying hes receiving death threats from fans, which is pretty sad that its gotten out of hand, but at the same time, he said he wanted to go to the concert for closure, but wasnt so sure due to the threats, but still wants to go, but that if he gets recognised and anything happens, then it will be on the shoulders of LP. No way should it be onthier shoulders as it would be his choice to go knowing fully well what could happen. I just feel sad for the band.
@robantico2490
@robantico2490 2 дня назад
Strange that Chester would kill himself on Cornell's Birthday on 7-20 the 201st day of the year....
@RandomLiar
@RandomLiar 7 дней назад
For me it's pretty obvious that, looking at the lyrics, the last single is a way for Emily to distance herself from the scientology, and talk about his discomfort indirectly without saying out loud that she's not part of it anymore in order to avoid... you know, bad things.
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 7 дней назад
But that requires brain power. People don't have that.
@luhcaran
@luhcaran 7 дней назад
"i only wanted to be part of something" just kidding, but that makes me laugh
@intheknow6499
@intheknow6499 6 дней назад
THIS. Why TF does almost no one else seem to have picked this up?!?! It only takes 2 minutes of thinking to join the dots.
@waketp420
@waketp420 6 дней назад
Except Mike wrote those lyrics. Stop coping. Also it's confirmed by scientology members that she's still part of the church. Theres an ex scientologist who grew up with her and knows for a fact she's still in scientology because her parents are high ranking.
@intheknow6499
@intheknow6499 6 дней назад
@@waketp420 She’s been writing songs with them since 2019. 🤡
@cronje6x
@cronje6x 7 дней назад
Tbh I'm really conflicted ab her. I hope the whole thing clears up
@kimchi2780
@kimchi2780 7 дней назад
How will it clear up? If she erases everything shes done prior to people putting her on blast?
@DaroGonzalez
@DaroGonzalez 7 дней назад
Mike and the band are happy with her, Talinda is happy with her... I'm happy with her, I will remember Chester forever, and I will follow Linkin Park because it is a project from the whole band...
@kinginthenaught
@kinginthenaught 7 дней назад
Easy. Change their name. Or don't hire a supporter of abuse when Chester was a victim. What a legacy.
@way2go636
@way2go636 7 дней назад
@@kinginthenaught in your dreams
@BlackiJ11
@BlackiJ11 7 дней назад
@@kinginthenaught Can you explain how she is a supporter of abuse?
@austinnewhart2959
@austinnewhart2959 5 дней назад
People want their celebrities to be saints. They aren't. Can we focus on having good music?
@Filterdeez
@Filterdeez 3 дня назад
If we were focused on having good music, they wouldnt be beating LP's corpse like this. Horrible singer, new drummer and mid single. How about we leave things alone and create new things instead?
@ronansumer4786
@ronansumer4786 4 дня назад
Chester died not replaced. As a band they want to continue the band even Chester w9uld want that. People are so judgmental. Please let Linkin park continue doing what they love their life their choice. They started playing instrument since they are kids not because people want but they want and they love it. So let them do what they love n choose to do. If you like it ,.. Good. If you don't like go listen to another band or their old songs.
@KaotikWolff
@KaotikWolff 5 дней назад
Like you I’m super excited for this new Linkin park aswell. I grew up listening to Chester and I understand people don’t want his memory to fade or be tarnished. Personally I don’t think LP has any intention of coming anywhere near something like that. And I also believe Chester would’ve wanted the band to continue to make music for the fans. LP has always had a special place in my heart and Chester can never be replaced. But the fans have got to let things go and accept things for what they are and LP will never die now. Chester will forever be my favorite rock artist of all time and I will never forget him. I think it will take some getting used to but people will come around and LP will once again become the best band to ever exist.
@Abvro
@Abvro 7 дней назад
Way too much drama for a whole lot of not my business
@lyilsperry4428
@lyilsperry4428 7 дней назад
Why can't we all just enjoy music and not care about drama. I miss early 2000 s.
@JayEmersontheman
@JayEmersontheman 7 дней назад
Same
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 7 дней назад
The early 2000s had TONS of drama. The magazines and TV fed off it. The "wardrobe malfunction" caused by Justin Timberlake, the Madonna and Britney Spears kissing on stage, etc. I mean come on they even created fake drama, they had Sasha Baron Cohen as Bruno sit on Eminem's lap at the VMAs or whatever and Eminem had an outburst. It was all staged to promote the Bruno movie. Not to mention all the rap beef. I'm convinced all the people glamorizing the 2000s actually forgot what went down back then.
@justsomeguy727
@justsomeguy727 6 дней назад
​​​@@ChucksSEADnDEADeither forgot or were just too young at the time so they didn't look at that sort of thing. But yea, I agree with you. People always pretend like the older eras were devoid of drama when that simply isn't true at all. It's kind of like people who just forget Eddie Van Halen WAS an alcoholic asshole in many parts of his life, but nobody batted an eye about it cause he plays guitar good.
@Samuel-qe9lj
@Samuel-qe9lj 5 дней назад
Someone mention she sound like Nelson from the Simpson…. Lol I close my eyes and yeah she sound like Nelson
@guitaraholic
@guitaraholic 7 дней назад
I have 2 points on this which is so obvious when people step back just a little. - Colin has had NOTHING dug up on him or people seemingly trying to find wrong with him. It may be that there isn’t but isn’t it (not) surprising that Emily is getting the FBI toothcomb search? - Chester’s oldest son has been put under a retraining order by Talinda and has been blocked by Mike due to his constant conspiratorial behaviour surrounding his dad’s death. So I wouldn’t take his statement at face
@tmw3489
@tmw3489 6 дней назад
@@guitaraholic I have shit on Colin. Bands hate him because he steals money from bands. This is a known thing, he took this job because he fucked up his entire career over years. This is common knowledge in the industry.
@saraya666
@saraya666 6 дней назад
Internet is why we can't have nice things. I just listen to music. In the old days people didn't have the means to judge the music by judging the people making it. You bought a CD, you didn't really know every single ascpect of the musician. You listened to the music and you freaking enjoyed it and it didn't tarnish the name of the band if a person did something bad in the past. Come on people....Not everything is evil and that bad. Sure shit happened in her life...But SHIT HAPPENS IN EVERYONE'S LIFE. And that shouldn't stop us from making art! Seperate personal life from art. Enjoy it. And stop causing net wars everywhere you go. Music should connect us, not divide us. Emily. I fully support you and welcome you in the band. No matter what you did in the past. You are a great vocalist and give new life to the band. Thank you! Peace Love
@zachuproduction
@zachuproduction 6 дней назад
I think that Linkin Park shouldn't even make a reactivation, they went down as absolute legends in rock and metal community, one of my favorite bands ever, I had huge respect to them but now? random ass scientologist, Brad saying he won't play shows because he no wanna 🥺 and Rob being completely isolated from the band, this is not linkin park, this literally a cash grab on peoples nostalgia, a failed one too cause it just made people angry
@evat514
@evat514 17 часов назад
I feel the same way. If Mike had created a new band with some of the old members and Emily, it would’ve been better however, this is milking the brand and the legacy for everything it’s worth and potentially destroying that legacy in the process. “Money is the root…” and all that I guess. 😐
@zachuproduction
@zachuproduction 17 часов назад
@@evat514 exactly, as much as I love mike, because of that reactivation he lost in my eyes big time
@jareddrogose1470
@jareddrogose1470 15 часов назад
Milo Silvestra is doing a bang up job with FF. She's in some very deep water speaking out.
@andymanser2523
@andymanser2523 5 дней назад
The biggest issue to me is the scientologist belief that mental illness is fake, a fraud. This new singer is in the band because of these issues, her whole belief structure is that it doesn't exist, it's spitting in the face of Chesters memory and family. Was there any sort of check done on this singer before they announced it to the world? Seems like a massive F up by the band or 1 member of the band really, to bring in this new singer and either not do any checks or just not care at all.
@GodzillaKyru
@GodzillaKyru 5 дней назад
She literarily has two songs that I remember off of the top of my head that deal with mental Health; Suicidal and Losing my mind.
@chrismcallister3495
@chrismcallister3495 3 дня назад
"she couldnt have made a better statement" she ignored the fact she intimidated one of danny's rape victims... dont buy the pr..
@empchi
@empchi 6 дней назад
I miss how quiet and chill this fandom was, aside from people bitching about not liking a new album every few years.
@anosegal
@anosegal 3 дня назад
crazy how the only thing on the internet right now is drama and controversy
@JustSomeKittenwithaGun
@JustSomeKittenwithaGun День назад
And nudey pics
@roryt1985
@roryt1985 7 дней назад
The other side to this, is that social media gives a voice to the absolute scum of society. You can’t look at comments on Architects videos without idiots saying things like ‘Tom would turn in his grave if he heard this’ etc etc we have the same now with Linkin Park ‘Chester wouldn’t approve ‘ etc absolute filth of society to make comments like that. All the best to Linkin Park I hope they smash it.
@foxtrotyt8898
@foxtrotyt8898 7 дней назад
I'm honestly so grateful and happy to have a new chapter from this beautiful band and seen Mike smile again warmed my heart
@MrBaker444
@MrBaker444 4 дня назад
I think it's time to consider Mike Shinoda not being the stand up individual I've long suspected him to be.
@MrPajamaShark
@MrPajamaShark 2 дня назад
Tool's been proudly singing "fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones" since the '90s and they haven't been stopped. Linkin Park is big enough to say something about it if they wanted to.
@protus3882
@protus3882 6 дней назад
If you pay attention to the lyrics of their newest song you can pretty much make out a response to the whole situation. Your blades are sharpened with precision Flashing your favorite point of view I know you're waiting in the distance Just like you always do, just like you always do Already pulling me in Already under my skin And I know exactly how this ends, I Let you cut me open just to watch me bleed Gave up who I am for who you wanted me to be Don't know why I'm hopin' for what I won't receive Fallin' for the promise of the emptiness machine The emptiness machine Goin' around like a revolver It's been decided how we lose 'Cause there's a fire under the altar I keep on lyin' to, I keep on lyin' to Already pulling me in Already under my skin And I know exactly how this ends, I Let you cut me open just to watch me bleed Gave up who I am for who you wanted me to be Don't know why I'm hopin' for what I won't receive Fallin' for the promise of the emptiness machine
@diabl0618
@diabl0618 7 дней назад
Hope you're having a good day Nik 🖤
@ObligatedSloth
@ObligatedSloth 7 дней назад
I love Chester, I love Linkin Park. They were my first favorite band and I feel lucky for having been able to see them with Chester in 2006-2007. I feel lucky that I got to see Chester and Chris Cornell perform together on the same stage. With that being said, I think Linkin Park and the members deserve to move on. I think Chester would have absolutely wanted the band to move on and not end. It's been 7 years, I think they've had time to grieve and heal, and don't deserve to be held back by the legacy that is Chester Bennington. With that being said, I think Emily sounds great. Emptiness Machine strangely feels like a return to form in some sort of way. Not completely, obviously, but it does sound somewhat like Linkin Park. With all that being said, I think I speak for everyone (at least on Nik Nocturnal's channel) that Andy Cizek is the only vocalist that can compare to Chester in a modern sense, and would have been a better fit than Emily. Just listen to his Given Up and Crawling covers... I mean, come on. Way less controversy, better vocal chops and range, the kid's got it. But he's also a member of like 25 bands so he probably doesn't have the time. We need new Termina stuff too.
@user-ij9jw5un9b
@user-ij9jw5un9b 4 дня назад
Respoding in a PR matter is the worst thing they can do in this case. If she's gonna address the accusations then she has to do it herself. No lawyers, no censorship, just Emily. There's nothing wrong with someone else defending her but the PR talk does nothing but raise suspicion and create more controversy.
@mrtsvlks
@mrtsvlks 7 дней назад
Hope they stay strong internet is full of drama warriors.
@kevinnugraha9198
@kevinnugraha9198 7 дней назад
So why is Talinda looks fully supports Emily while her son in law is not? This is a strange situation we're in.
@servidig483
@servidig483 7 дней назад
Jamie isn't her son
@kevinnugraha9198
@kevinnugraha9198 7 дней назад
@@servidig483 I forgot that Chester had children with 2 other women. Which one is Jamie's mom then?
@vincinel114
@vincinel114 7 дней назад
@@kevinnugraha9198 Samantha
@kevinnugraha9198
@kevinnugraha9198 7 дней назад
@@vincinel114 Isn't that Draven?
@vincinel114
@vincinel114 7 дней назад
@@kevinnugraha9198 Nope. Samantha Olit, they got married in 1996 and got divorced in 2005
@UltraVegito-1995
@UltraVegito-1995 7 дней назад
We have channels MrBeastting Linkin Park before GTA VI
@claudiuskeat8336
@claudiuskeat8336 13 часов назад
Linkin Park took the right direction. They're not trying to replace Chester with the new vocalist, all the while, they're not changing too much that they no longer sound like Linkin Park.
@m_overture
@m_overture 7 дней назад
from what ive seen, emily has been openly gay shes dated another woman before. scientology is extremely homophobic so there may be a chance they have banned her from it, its strange that no one has brought that up at all besides her ties with scientology
@justsomeguy727
@justsomeguy727 6 дней назад
That's because that doesn't fit the narrative of acting like she's the devil and trying to "replace Chester and undo his legacy" or whatever the fuck Chester's dumbass son was saying (and many others seem to think too)
@callisto2895
@callisto2895 2 дня назад
Three reasons: 1. scientology is way softer on gay women. Only homosexual acts by men get the harsh treatment. 2. Her mother is the one writing the harrassment propaganda pieces and she defended her daughter. Mom is high level. 3. She has celebrity status which gives her more freedom.
@olimurray4058
@olimurray4058 6 дней назад
People are just digging up any dirt they can find because they can’t accept change. But despite the noise online their shows are selling out in minutes and their new single is on track for number one. Welcome back Linkin Park. It’s been a long time coming!
@heatheraldazabal358
@heatheraldazabal358 6 дней назад
She defended a rapist and is a cultist “people are digging up any dirt they can find” is a dishonest way of framing the controversy
@olimurray4058
@olimurray4058 6 дней назад
⁠@@heatheraldazabal358no it’s true. 1 she posted a statement which you are wilfully ignoring about how she withdrew her support from the actor when she found out what he had actually done. So anyway rational person would see that that was just a mistake on her part. And 2 you think it’s okay to judge people on religious grounds? You still pay to see all of Tom Cruises films? She isn’t hurting anyone by her association and I’m not a fan of religion but Scientology isn’t even the worst one. How many Scientologist terror groups can you name?
@GemnEyes
@GemnEyes 3 дня назад
@@olimurray4058 A total non apology, and she hasn't even apologised to the victims!
@Ellie-rx3jt
@Ellie-rx3jt День назад
​@@GemnEyesshe didn't do anything to the victims. They aren't her victims.
@plaisukhum7934
@plaisukhum7934 7 дней назад
If this happened 2 months ago, this might make my graduation thesis
@venepskeuten9206
@venepskeuten9206 4 дня назад
The constant entropy never ends
@6easton3wallace6
@6easton3wallace6 3 дня назад
Imagine if Taylor Swift or Rhiana was the new singer for Suicide Silence, Lorna Shore, Slaughter To Prevail. It wouldnt be the same, and would be disrespectful to the fans. I havent felt so betrayed since betrayal since General Shepherd Killed Ghost & Roach in Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
@GerbilCakePants
@GerbilCakePants День назад
What the hell are you on about?? That literally makes no sense.
@down1tone
@down1tone 6 дней назад
Personally only really concerned if the new music slaps. And The Emptiness Machine was pretty sick. Still excited for the album and hope this controversy gets resolved in a positive way.
@Ninjasneekman
@Ninjasneekman 7 дней назад
Bro i dont care what any of this stuff is I'm just here to listen to music
@alexandermantooth185
@alexandermantooth185 4 дня назад
The sad part is there were so many good choices. People liked Bonnie Fraser. Deryck Whibley from Sum 41 is a good dude and friend of the band. Sum 41 is wrapping up. Lzzy Hale has covered Linkin Park tons of times, and loves to tour. Shes an great person. Why Emily?
@googooboyy
@googooboyy 6 дней назад
Let the music speak for itself.
@adamdam
@adamdam 6 дней назад
As a kid that once liked them when they came out and dropped listening to them 20 years ago I have to say the new vocalist is sublime sounding, not my cup of tea but I think the fans need to shut the fuck up.
@vooligan9499
@vooligan9499 7 дней назад
I personally think she only addressed the controversy around her links to Masterson because she has already left the church of Scientology behind but cannot say so on social media as it will lead to harassment from the members of that religion. Whereas the Masterson situation she is free to talk about. Linkin Park definitely knew and she will have explained the situation to them. Hell, The Emptiness Machine has lyrics that (if she writes lyrics about personal experiences) are about her being a part of that cult and then leaving it. I'm pretty sure she/the band were preempting this and wrote the song to address it indirectly so that they weren't met with the cults backlash.
@alicetwain
@alicetwain 6 дней назад
Actually not. Her message is right after the style used in their message by Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, both Scientologists in good standing, for having written letters attesting Masterson's good character. All of these messages sounds like they were written directly by OSA (Scientology's Office of Special Affairs).
@keeyajavan
@keeyajavan 6 дней назад
she unfollowed dude RECENTLY like a few days ago, says all you need to know
@nikahaziny
@nikahaziny 6 дней назад
​@keeyajavan who gives a shit about who she follows? It's social media, it doesn't mean anything. Also, she follows thousands of people on Instagram, she'd probably forgotten she was following him until people started this shit and pointed it out.
@alicetwain
@alicetwain 6 дней назад
@@nikahaziny she doesn't follow these people. She routinely takes and publishes pictures interacting with them.
@keeyajavan
@keeyajavan 6 дней назад
@@nikahaziny found the abuse apologizer
@The_Highrise23
@The_Highrise23 6 часов назад
Hearing a Scientologist sing “one more light” is gonna be a paradox
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