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I'll buy raycon for you Professor

Hey Prof, I have a question. Is this a limited time offer?

Lemme find out your magnus in final fantasy 14 just met this guy talks and acts just like you

I do not like sticking earbuds into my ears

raycons are fucking trash, why did you sellout for raycons?

Agreed. OG frames would be an awesome and easy solution for the majority of cards.

Definitely agreed!!!

That completely explains why set boosters don't have to contain all colors.

Old frame cards should definitely be set on fire.

that is one of the most wotc things to do. Design something to remove chaff and them after the first 2~3 releases start to add chaff until people don't care/want it anymore and kill the product and wonder why the hell it got to the point where it barely sold.

*waves at Arena*

and yet thet are making more money then ever. the world is a strange place.

At least their off that "it's for new players" so it's completely garbage kick.

Yep, exactly. Like look what they are doing to bundles now. lol so many bad decisions.

Wotc companion app was shown on their products five years before release and it feels like something made in a one day gamejam, and done poorly if that point didn't come across

I got them instead. After being extremely disappointed with all of the booster boxes that I've bought this year, save for MH2, I've just stopped buying boosters all together. I've always known that it was better to buy singles, but it is fun to open packs, and it's a quick and easy way for me to support my LGS without having to spend hours combing over their available singles from each new set. But thanks to Wizards horrid business decisions, I've stopped buying boxes again. At this point I'm just looking for another game to replace Magic entirely.

@@Xoulrath_ I'm pretty sure this is why flesh and blood took off?

@@Troglodytemtg maybe, but FaB is already pulling stuff like this. Crucible of War, a set just released in Unlimited form in July, has already been removed from print. It became a FOMO as soon as the announcement was made, and prices spiked. According to some in the FaB community, there aren't a ton of cards in the set that are widely needed. According to others, it was a bad move to cut the set because it has tournament staples. I don't know because I'm still learning about the game. What I do know is that I'm currently on the fence about jumping into FaB, because even games like the WoW TCG, which had a fantastic foundation and the popularity of the biggest game around at the time, ultimately failed. Legend Story Studios making a short print set, in Unlimited no less, of just three waves and then calling it, reeks of market manipulation. The game is 2 years old and hasn't even gained a foothold yet in my LGS. They are actively pushing it and can't get anyone to play currently. I imagine it's wallet fatigue as opposed to the game itself. Regardless, I've been looking into FaB as well (obviously), precisely because of Magic's current business practices. But I don't want to trade the devil I know for one that I don't, and stunts like short printing a set that was just released in Unlimited, of a game that is 2 years old and still trying to gain market share, is maybe just getting a different devil.

Damn, I just commented something damn near similar about the gacha, I was late by two days xD

Yup

Well he is an English teacher lol

@@yungfatass445 Was he really an English teacher or is this a meme?

My experience was completely the opposite than Prof’s. I cracked like 3 boxes and 70% of my list pulls were fire. Ancient tomb, krark’s thumb, sneak attack, hermit Druid, animate dead, grand arbiter Augustus, aura shards, and that red 3 drop ritual that gives 5 red (I never remember the name)

@@WhosTurnIsIt yes he taught English at the college level. I can’t remember what video it was, but he talked about a time some people looked him up and found him on campus to play their cube. He was flattered but also nervous about the whole situation.

Was in IHYD vs Posty vs Prof.

The Mystic Archive was the List done (mostly) right. A small curated group of cards with at least 1 card from it appearing in every pack. Cards had unique alt art and were thematic to the setting being some of the more evocative and well known spells from across the multiverse. The fact they did this so easily puts paid to the lie that they can't do it for the List.

I wish they would just continue the MA and ditch the List.

Exactly, quality over quantity please.

i agree. i also got into MTG around AFR and bought bundle of AFR, game nights box, and Commanders Legends booster box. I will not buy set boosters. And now that WotC has changed bundles into set boosters, i will not buy bundles. To be fair, i also buy a lot more singles for my deckbuilding than draft boosters anymore regardless, so im not the kind of player who is looking for an opening experience

welcome to the game, as a fairly new player myself (only 8 months at this point) id reccommend to not buy any more packs / bundles unless you really want it or u just want to support your LGS, 1 piece of advice is to buy singles over packs / bundles (precons are good to buy if u like em just upgrade em with singles)

​@@moe3120 Exactly. Just buy the cards you want.

This is by far the best idea I've seen to remedy The List with a single move. Why introduce the extra 1-in-4 gamble if there's already a low chance of you getting a card you really want? Atm you're gambling on not getting a List card in the first place, then gambling on whether or not it's worth your time. Having one in every pack would go a long way to alleviate peoples' concerns, I feel.

@@liamcolligan packs with List cards still have tokens... on top of that I think you are missing the point

@@cubencis they might also be saying that sarcastically.

Why don’t they just give boosters away for free? That would improve the packs even more.

@@liamcolligan Cards from The List replace the ad cards, which are literal actual garbage.

Agree with all of these points, I thought they would act as lottery cards with rares/mythical only but getting some bulk common I pulled a few years ago is such a feel bad. Only pull that was worth was a Cavern

I’ve opened 3-4 set booster boxes and only found 1 card on the list that had any value, and none I actually wanted to play. As it is I don’t even consider it when buying a booster box. There’s got to be a better way to do it.

An intern probably wrote the script and they wanted to find a use for it haha

I'm pretty sure that's actually what happened.

exactly

1/8 after New Cappena comes out, as Blake revealed on the weekly stream that New Cappena will be the set that has the alternative versions of the Stranger Things, and the rate will be 1/8 packs have a random non ST card from the list, 1/8 will have the stranger things cards specifically (so the other cards on the list basically doubled in rarity).

lol, that's a dangerous game ;p

So, if we go with 300 cards on list, then you can get whole collection in around 2400 packs, 67 boxes. Yop. This will centrainly make them affordable enought...

I keep opening jank list cards...keep being like ok did this really need a reprint.

@@101Shifty No no, it's not 1 List card in every 8 packs. It's 1 non-MUB Stranger Things card every 8 packs. There are 8 of those. (Although Mind Flayer is Mythic and will be less frequent.)

@@notme222 Well, if thats true, im ok with this. Having all 8 in ~2 boxes sounds cool. They could even end quite cheap.

I used to think FTV was a soulless cash grab but then I met Secret Lairs. Sad part is as long as dumb people buy them they will keep printing them.

it's a trap, don't buy it. Collector boosters or bust.

Just buy singles

Because disappointing you is their business model.

They are not aiming for the mark you think or want them to be.

Yah pulling a common from a set that rotated less than a month ago is…. Eesh.

What's worse is getting a card from literally the previous set (d&d cards in innistrad)

I remember pulling common AFR cards in my recent set boosters and was livid. I don't care if it was a werewolf and thematic. Telling me there wasn't any other innistrad card to put in instead?

Probably makes the chocolate taste bad anyway. 😒

Counsel. I feel like it's OK to do this because we're on a Prof's channel.

@@nottsfhj I appreciate the correction, man. Bet you weren’t expecting that, huh? 😄

I'm coming from the perspective of someone who has played for a looong time, but just recently started buying actual products. I had two or three old decks I just ran casually against people, but since starting my own commander circle (sadly a very small one at this point) I've started actually collecting more cards. I found the Mystical Archive to be an amazing concept and so I bought a box of Strixhaven. I didn't even regret it after opening it! If these "Mystical Archive" things would appear in future packs I would love it. They could even be themed around the cards in standard. For example Innistrad could have featured reprints of old classics from the OG Innistrad and Shadows over Innistrad blocks. That would be amazing for us coming in late into the hobby. I'd def buy more boxes atleast!

Agree with this completely. In fact, I ended up buying a booster box of Strixhaven specifically because I wanted the mystical archive cards. I love alternate art/bordered cards and those are normally enough to get me to invest in product. The list is kinda the opposite of that.

The idea of a new player buying set boosters and slowly getting a playset of lightning bolts would be cool if they were to put "old" but decent cards in the list

@@NULLxFORxNONE On the other hand, Lightning Bolts from more recent printings sell for less than two dollars. Obviously WOTC can't make products that are more valuable for resale than they are in-store (although since they don't make money off secondary market sales I don't see why not, beyond potentially offending the resalers who field Pro Tour teams), but you'd hope for a rare specialty item they could include things a bit more exciting than a two dollar common. If you're making a product that serves to get people into an eternal format, you're not selling to the purely casual players anymore - reprint some of the good stuff that's actually expensive and keeps people out of the format! Why not throw in some Goblin Guides if you want to rope in those Burn players? At very least, don't reprint cards that are super common - back when I was still playing a lot of paper magic, I ended up with at least a few bolts and I never once played Burn at an event or anywhere else.

Isn't booster packs nothing but lottery machines with very set prizes?

Lol, same

@@jackwilson5050 I was like, yeah prof, tell us all about the problems with the reserved list! Took me a few minutes to figure out those are not the same thing. But I'm old.

And don't make the boosters ridiculously expensive. Anything over £6 a pack is really pushing it IMO

If you mean two set booster boxes? That’s simply not true, they are track printed to include at least one mythic or high value rare per box.

I think they meant two boosters. Still, you open 2 boosters, get 2 cards from The List, you feel lucky, but in the end it’s just draft chaff. I understand the disappointment.

@@pikmaniac1557 welcome to randomness of opening packs.

@@SB-yq5wb Yup I opened two set boosters boxes and only got commons and uncommons from The List. This isn't the first time something like this happened to me. I bought some theme boosters from Kaldheim and I didn't get a rare in two out of the 3 theme boosters. Either I got really bad luck or production is really garbo.

Sidenote, I think you're slightly misrepresenting Mystical Archive here. It wasn't just a reprint thing, it was a unique way to bring interesting spells into limited without having to worry about Standard. It was very special. (At least until they do it three times in short order in back to back sets.)

This might be an option I might be fine with but would mean they'll either keep all the list shaft or raise the price.

I was really sad (but not suprised) to see mystical archive or even just the idea of a showcase in every pack was not going to be permanent

Then you might as well change the name of rares and mythics to commons and uncommons...

lol so true

Huh?

@@butterbeef8504 Prof tends to have entertaining responses to obvious money-grabbing secret lairs, and this one is insultingly so with ridiculously powerful cards that are mechanically unique. This checks off every one of his boxes for a bad Lair, and I'm looking forward to his thoughts.

Travesty

Every set box contains one mythic and rare in that list slot. You can’t expect to pull massive value every box you crack.