The Lorax (Musical Hell Review #72) 

most awesome question EVER

You mean the Onceler? He IS the main character in the book. EDIT: Actually, I saw the part talking about Audrey just now. I heard a theory that she was a tree nymph of the last tree who needed humans to care about trees to be a human herself. Wouldn't that be more interesting?

It's not movies. TV does it too.

Sheridan Mann idk all the characters in Timeless are cliche, boring, and generally eh.

Charlie in the Twilight saga

The one thing I never got behind, was at the end when Ted tells the townspeople, "I speak for the trees." I remember watching that and going, "...I do not believe a word you just said." All Ted has been doing is listening to a story to get a seed to 'get to' a girl. If he had maybe used his spare time to look into the public library, only to find propaganda texts telling how bad trees were, or finding out how maybe the elderly had been executed for even mentioning real trees (given how Grammy seems to be the only person who still remembers what trees were actually like!), it might have made Ted seem a little more 'real' in believing what he was saying. As it is, the 'good will' of the film seems as fake as the fakeness of the town. Plus, the logic of the town just drives me nuts. It looks like the kids of the old times would have become the adults we see now, and none of them recall living in a world of Truffula trees? Did they all just submit to a lobotomy before being allowed to live in Thneedville? For that matter, their economics system also has me quizzical.

Cure Hana yeah that does make sense

Honestly screw Ted, I always hated him. After reading your comment about Audrey, it makes too much sense. It's really sad that an average fan can come up with a better story than a "professional" writer.

Or maybe filling in that trait and arc to Ted then get rid of nice guy trait and "get the girl" sub-arc

I honestly feel like we were moving(albeit maybe a little more slowly) towards better female leads in media before the recent push for them, but in any case, that idea sounds a lot better than having Ted be the lead the way he is.

I will forever be pissed at Illumination for replacing Biggering with How Bad Can I Be.

Honestly, the entire original demo sounds like it’s selling-not a great movie-but a much better one than we got. The fact they cut Biggering from the movie in itself is criminal, but I enjoy most of the fan animatics far more than what Illumination would’ve probably come up with around it anyway.

Don't also forget about the thneedville demo

I wish they added biggering...if they did, you'd 100 percent know he's a bad person who knows what he's doing! Hbcib is hard cuz they give him "plausible deniability" and have the onceler get manipulated by his horrible family

ShootingStarNeo, I still know of a few unrepentant 'fans'... Tumblr is a strange, sometimes beautiful, often horrifying place

Didn't the same thing happen with JoJo from "Horton Hears A Who"?

I was there too... people don't believe me when I tell them about the madness. It was quite fun tho XD

It was no worse than SuperWhoLock

+Arella17 SuperWhoLock, where two radically different shows got slapped together because they shared a creator, and the third one was added into the mix just because.

Michael Rooker as The Lorax would be amazing!!!

Dem H78 well you’re right. It’s just with the right writing and creativity, it could work. It just hasn’t yet 😅

I disagree, especially since the execution of said films is always botched and too Hollywood. So we don't really know how an honest to God adaptation would work as a film yet

Dem H78 The length isn't the main problems with these adaptations. It's the attempts at modernizing what are timeless stories. Think of The Peanuts Movie. That is a story simple enough to not need to be feature-length but, with the Schulz family involved, the source material was respected well enough for padding to be an absolute non-issue for most people who see it. It FEELS like a feature-length Peanuts movie.

What about Horton Hears a Who? That was really good. I liked this one as did a lot of other people. Grinch looks good. It seems like the problem isn't with the writing, but how about they don't work in live action but are fine in animation.

I saw both the Lorax and Horton in theaters, and though it's certainly not one of the cinematic greats Horton makes an enjoyable and logical expansion of its source material.

Am I the only one who read this in sing-song?

Nope hehe

Kimani Wilson-Hunte hi

Oh shit, there goes the planet

@@HJ-tz8or No, I even added a record scratch in my head after the "90 minutes later" line. xD

Monique Ocampo I thought NC was joking about the fan girls fan girling Onceler

Brandon Roberts that's funny.

Clare Carey Nope that was very real..

ChocoDoeEyes Prove it give me a link to this fan girl base Web sit

Clare Carey I don’t need to just look it up on Tumblr

Also, someone needs to make diva x reaper fan art.

Kalin Moultrie What do you think about The Cat in the Hat TV series?

ADP1998 I think it's a better adaptation then the movie but that's a given

Kalin Moultrie The 2D adaptions were awesome. Granted, they have their flaws, but they're so much more enjoyable than the new ones. They actually have a crossover between the Grinch and the Cat in the Hat for crying out loud!

Jennea Coleman-Cubero I know! I saw the nostalgia critic review it and now i NEED to see it

Thanks. It also does make the Onceler more human instead of just another Captain Planet villain or (in this movie) an idiot which makes the story all the more tragic and teach children the value of compromise and being aware their action will have consequences.

That would've made a lot more sense

Heck, I saw this in another comment but what if Ted was The Onceler's descendant and learned about his horrible family legacy? Could've had a change of heart and actually be motivated to save trees not only out of interest, but to correct the wrongdoings of the past.

...Okay, now I want someone to make this movie. Heck, maybe I should write a fanfic for this. Don’t know if anyone would read this, but here it goes. Thneedville would be shown at the start, but it’s a clearly depressing place; the air is foggy, and everyone has to wear oxygen masks manufactured by and running on O’Haire air when going outside at all times, at home breathing in air supplied by air-purifying air-conditioning or pumping in air also manufactured by O’Haire. That, or O’Haire doesn’t exist in this story. Ted is still the main character, but hears about trees from his grandmother. Maybe she’s wistfully looking at the plastic trees as she walks by them, or brings it up at the dinner table after the mom talks about the new plastic trees, leading to the Disco gag, but the grandma isn’t amused. Maybe she’s the one painting the murals. Or maybe she collapses trying to go without an oxygen mask and they bring her to the hospital, and it’s heavily implied this has happened before, and in the patient room she tells Ted about trees. She then points him to the Once-Ler. The Once-Ler could be a guy who was already rich, like idle rich. Then one day he spots squatters on his grounds, comes across some beggars, or is taking a walk through the slums for whatever reason and gets pickpocketed, and he yells at the offenders. They get into an argument, leading to the Once-Ler shouting “Why don’t you just get a job?!”, and the person he’s arguing with says “Get a job?! Who do you think would want to employ me?!”, taking off their false leg, “I haven’t even completed high school! You think I haven’t tried?!”. There should probably be a scene where he witnesses the horrible conditions the poor live in himself. This leads him to have a revelation to do something with his life, and he leaves his rich life behind to start his company. That, or he grew up in the slums himself, and started the company to get his friends and family out of the situation, finding that some handmade thneeds he made from some Truffla fluff were popular with the rich. He’d call the mechanics from the slum and they’d make a factory that at first is rickety and unstable but eventually becomes an industrial machine. He’d probably be shown as a good boss to his workers. At first they would have handpicked the trees, or tried shearing them off, but the amount of trees needed to make one thneed isn’t worth the labor of plucking them, so they start cutting them. The amount of workers grows and grows as the company gets bigger and more poor people rush to the factory, and Thneedville is built as a town to house them; high-quality housing as they have never known before. Maybe Ted’s grandma is among the workers here, and is among the first to notice that this business model isn’t sustainable but stays quiet because this is her revenue now and has a great house thanks to it. The Lorax would try to stop the Once-Ler, of course, but the audience would be very conflicted because they’ve seen the horrible, poverty-stricken conditions these workers and maybe the Once-Ler grew up in. But ultimately, the workers once again become unemployed, the animals have no place to live either, the ecosystem is ruined, and the Lorax gives a Reason You Suck Speech to the Once-Ler. Thneedville degenerates into a polluted, once again poverty-stricken town as the Once-Ler goes into hiding out of shame, or the threat is looming. Then, O’Haire swoops in to fill the employment and clean air void, giving him a vice-grip on the town’s economy as well as the air supply. Other employment options spring up initially financed by O’Haire so that O’Haire can get profits instead of the economy being cyclical. No one can speak up against him or he raises the price of air, so everyone continues to stay quiet until the grandma tells Ted. That, or the Once-Ler gives all his CEO profits to his workers since he has no use for it anymore, and with that and their pre-existing money the town is polluted but economically stable. There could be no climax, like the book; the Once-Ler could give the seed to Ted, and he goes home with a mission. That, or if they have to give it a climax, it would be kind of similar to the movie, if O’Haire is still in the story. But I really think he shouldn’t be, since it would brush off the message by sweeping the question of what happens to the people O’Haire employed under the rug. They could also give a conclusion without a climax by the town finding out about the lie they’ve been living, and the grandma and Ted plant the last seed. Cut to a feel-good shot of trees growing around Thneedville yet again or the tree growing at the center of the town, and/or the Lorax smiling, maybe he turns to the Once-Ler or his house and tells him “You did good.”. Roll credits. Yeah, I should definitely write this sometime. Maybe that’s a bit dense for a kids’ movie, but hey, anything’s better than what we got.

@@wannabehistorian371 Wow. I would definitely watch that movie!

Holy cow you're right! I also remembering hearing a theory (It was the Theorizer I think?) were they said that the Onceler and Ted were related.

Marinelife7 Me too 😂

GotG woo!! 😎

Yeah, I didn't include it but there's a bit where Ted says "She's not a girl, she's a woman--in high school!" ....I mean, the writers probably thought they were writing some kind of innocent pre-teen crush thing, but ewwwww.

What?! I just assumed he was a small high schooler... I feel so dirty now.

It's not that uncommon for hetero boys that age to be into older girls. That's why it's a relatively old trope. What IS uncommon is the girl reciprocating those feelings. That is weird.

Not just a trope, but a real thing. Vice versa for females too. Most budding sexualities are attracted to older people. People in their age group seem dumb and inexperienced.

I think she's not "interested" interested in him (cheek kisses are very platoni, she might gave it in a "good job, little sport!" kind of way), but hey, with this movie everything's possible!

That is so true, there's no real person just pumping out pollution for the sake of it, it all comes down to money and convenience, and making a story's message ham-fisted and condescending will only have the opposite effect on it's audience.

A song that was cut from this film called "Biggering" actually fit the message of the book very well.

I’m a Wabuudist I'll check it out

no, don't. it's very boring

The little red haired girl from across the street I keep forgetting about Princess Mononoke. I have to rewatch that sometime.

I believe it's that they're taking instant gratification over sustainable living, which is also the case for using fossil fuels ect. It would make sense for humans (that is, the fat cats in the government) to spend our time building solar panels and wind turbines, but we just keep using fossil fuels because it's easier

Exactly. It reminds me of that one campaign PETA did where they had a fake, butchered looking lamb with 'here's the rest of your wool coat' or whatever on the poster... Except that if shepherds mauled their livestock everytime they sheared the sheep, they'd spend more money on medications or through breeding/buying more sheep only to kill them after one shearing. It costs less to take care of your resource than to treat it like garbage. Things like sheep and trees are somewhat different than fossil fuels in that the outcomes of burning fuel weren't apparent until much later. If I cut down trees for lumber, I'm not going to look out at my lumber yard and OK the cutting of the last one since removing my resource is the worst possible thing for my lumber business. I find the majority of pro-environment media gets the delivery wrong. If you want people to actually care, you have to show them what'll affect them directly. Like most animals, people are selfish and only think about the now. Blue-collar John Doe doesn't care about animals losing their homes, he cares about going into work at his factory, working his hours, and coming home with food for his wife and kids. If you want John Doe to care, you need to make the message basically grab him by the ear and shout "Hey, asshole! If we don't stop, your kids are going to die from (insert outcome here)!" Once you get John Doe and his coworkers to care and start having sit-down strikes, then the bigwigs will care because they're not making money anymore. Right now, experimental green energy sources and practices aren't lucrative, which is bad for business. I could probably keep going all day; but, I think my point's been made.

Klutzy Ninja Kitty ...... *slow clap*

I always assumed that the Tufts were the seeds, and that was why they didn't ever replant. By the time they realized what they had done, all(most) of the seeds were destroyed.

@@carysbebard3690 That's the old thought, but it's steadily being proven more and more inaccurate. First off, there is increasing evidence that the Earth produces fossil fuels continuously. This is evidenced by having MORE known resources every year than the year before. Secondly, wind turbines and solar panels are good supplementally, but the technology is (currently) incapable of supplying the power needs of our civilization. The areas that produce the most solar and wind are also difficult to transport the power out of. Additionally, since batteries are still incapable of effectively storing power during peak production, nighttime and calm conditions remain the bane of these technologies. It's good to have SOME solar and wind production in a grid to add to the supply during peak demand. (Especially residential roof solar, which spreads the grid out instead of centralizing it.) But slowdowns at night force fossil fuel sources to pick up the slack. To show an example, Germany recently was able to meet their power demands completely with solar. HOWEVER... this was only during the day, and only during the summer. At night, they had to fire up the fossil fuel plants. (They burn additional fuel going from off to on, so this is a waste.) They have to turn the coal plants off during the day, though, because the solar production was SO high, it overloaded the grid and they had to shunt power to elsewhere in Europe. This isn't a problem if the grid is multi-sourced. Consider this situation: Protracted winter cloudiness in a country that has replaced their entire grid with solar/wind. People end up either freezing, or (ironically) chopping down forests to stay alive. This is a long-winded way of saying: ALL these technologies are good, including fossil fuels. We should let the tech and the market dictate where we go long-term and not force a situation that could end up being worse. We have time, the myth is that we don't. (Oh, and to reply to the original poster, the Onceler is a moron. Modern lumber companies actually plant two trees for every one they chop down. The result, in North America and Europe, is MORE forest cover that we had during the 1700s.)

i literally made an entire video that took half an hour to say these exact same things. so happy to see someone else who hates the 2012 movie for all the same reasons (and can state them way more clearly than i can, haha)!!

Today's political climate more has to so progressive fasicsm destroying the nation

Glad someone else appreciates how the TV special didn't go the "durr hurr business bad trees good" route like SO MANY other environmental messages.

You'd best find a citation for that statement. Wikipedia doesn't allow original research.

1. Second Question, HOW is Ted breathing so well in the supposedly "toxic" area where The Onceler lives?

They could have done giving The Onceler a face correctly, by showing that he's a human too, and anyone can be consumed by greed, but they did it wrong because they tried *too* hard to make him likeable. They made him just a quirky entrepreneur who didn't notice the devastation he caused. And to think, if the corporation behind the studio didn't feel so attacked, not turning Biggering into How Bad Can I Be would have saved his entire character by showing that he knew *exactly* what he was doing, he even had it screamed in his face, but he simply ignored it for money.

@@redtailarts101 It doesn't that they made the Once-ler look like Josh Ramsey from the band Marianas Trench.

But if he sold trees there would be no need to buy more. Selling small amounts of air guarantees customers

​@@cara_carambola Trees don't live forever, and people are willing to pay more for several years of clean air than just a day's worth. Besides, he could make a side business selling all the stuff you need to keep trees alive (fertilizer, comically oversized flowerpots, watering cans, etc). There's plenty of money to be made from a properly-constructed tree racket. (Also, selling fresh air is a kinda...weird business model when you don't live in a space station or wear space suits or something. How do you stop people from opening their windows and enjoying their neighbors' clean air without buying their own? Air isn't wi-fi, you can't stick a password on that.)

I think that song is the reason "Greed-ler" was so popular. I didn't really wake up until then, and I ended up downloading it afterward. That segment feels like a cool music video in the middle of a bland landscape of...."movie".

Song basically can reprsent the evils of corporations and such. profit over anything else.

That song makes me think how much better this would be if Once-ler was more of a Villain Protagonist....

The soundtrack-only song "Biggering" is even better, darker and more intense.

YES!! And you can TELL how much fun Ed Helms is having

I think they're part of the chorus in Let It Grow?

Timothy McLean But we don’t hear their voices during the song. They probably would have at least had a few lines during the song.

I get casting pop stars in musicals - If you've got a musical, you want people who can sing, and pop stars can sing. But... Why cast a pop star and never let them do a solo number? I mean, ideally you want someone who can do both, but for some reason 'casting broadway stars' never seems to be done and 'people who have been known for both acting and singing in their careers' for some reason never seems to occur to anyone (...Kylie Monogue, Billie Piper... Heck, both James Marsters and Gareth-David Lloyd have some sort of music sides to their careers. Or if you want to torture me both David Hasslehoff and Jason Donovan have notable careers in both music and acting.)

Reminds me of Spongebob's Atlantis Squarepantis where they got David Boey to guest star but didn't let him sing a song.

Or when Broadway superstar Idina Menzel didn't get a chance to show off her singing talents in "Enchanted", except for in a deleted scene.

This hurts even more when you see the concept art and original material. It was meant to be a much darker movie more akin to the old 2d animated movie, with a badass rock opera villain song. And Illumination, in all their infinite wisdom, played the 'It's too dark for kids' card. Thank you minions. Thank you SO much

Alex Klepp Yeah! I mean, people can say what they want about casting Beyoncè as Nala in the 2019 lion king, but at least there she actually got to sing!

*Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G*

Lindsay Stern Personally, I think Ted is no better than O'Hare. Yes, O'Hare is against trees because they're a "threat" to his business. But, Ted's goal is for selfish reasons too. He only sees the trees as a means of getting into Audrey's pants. I'd say that if they either made Audrey the protagonist, or just cut her from the movie altogether, I would have enjoyed it a little bit more.

One word. Biggering

To be fair, that's a problem with the original book, too.

Elsie I guess he didn't want to repeat his business?

Elsie Perhaps with that time for self reflection he didn't trust himself to take care of it himself without falling down the slippery slope again...

Perhaps he felt that his hands were "tainted" and not worthy to begin a new chance at rebirth, and passed it on to one whose hands were "clean". (Don't forget, those green hands are all we usually see of the Once-ler in the book and TV special...)

Because.... plot.

Movie after looking in mirror for 90 minutes: ...Why do I even exist?

VERY

A questions the people behind this film should have asked themselves.

Nathaniel Foga Let’s see

Same. ://(

Tara Lucent same I feel really embarrassed.

lowkey he is *kInDa* cute

It’s okay, we’ve all had our obsessions

Luckily you were replaced with Raymond fans.

Like she said, there is still room in the DMV waiting room for the people who were stupid enough to make this film.

I have some hope for it.Some,not much.

I saw a trailer for the new movie and the Grinch's Hideout is so very clean I don't think they understand the character of The Grinch.

A.J Wright I know I found the trailer for it on RU-vid and it looks terrible. Why can’t they just stop?

It mainly has to do with the animation studio involved illumination the people who brought you the minions. I originally thought they were good until I realized that their production model was to make things as low budget and quickly as possible and still fit Hollywood standards. I think they'll dr. Seuss's works until they don't have the rights to them anymore because their sales on the minions and Despicable Me well profitable are in steady decline.

I always thought the way they look alike was their spin on "The Once-ler could be anybody" plot point. Ted could grow up to do the same thing, and so could you.

I like the first song and How Bad Can I Be. They both deserve to be in better movies.

The one thing I always commend this movie on is how catchy the soundtrack is. Whoever wrote the score knew how to do their job and do it well.

@@AmayaHinageshi Yeah, John Powell is a great composer. He also wrote the score for Horton Hears A Who, which is one of my favorites ever.

Yeah, I really love Let it grow (even though it's terribly sappy) and the key-change always gives me chills

I think that How Bad Can I Be and Biggering could have been both used in the movie. The former is played shortly after we meet the Lorax as the Once-ler’s Justification for what he is doing when he is confronted for the first time and thinks he’s doing no harm. And then Biggering plays as the start of the second act where the Once-ler is slowly being corrupted by corporal greed and actively ignores the harm he’s causing to the environment and the Lorax pleads with him one last time for him to find another way to make Thneeds without causing harm and destruction and this time the Once-Lee ignores him because his greed has overtaken his sense of morality with the nagging mom telling him how proud of him she is while wearing an expensive looking full fur coat and expensive jewelry with valuable gems such as diamonds and emeralds and shows that she is to blame for the Once-ler not caring about the animals or environment as he has finally gotten the approval that he craved for so long from his extremely toxic mother. It would provide character growth and a more identifiable reason why a guy who originally was so nice and caring suddenly became a heartless and greedy man. The mom could even be used as a metaphor about how a parent can poison their own children’s minds through their words and actions and cause a drastic change to happen from within.

I don't think it's the happy ending's fault so much as the movie going out of its way to show us that "Look, everything went bad because the poor Onceler's obnoxious, uncaring family kept pushing him! Not because of anything _he_ did, not at all! He just wanted so badly to earn their approval!" Which isn't a bad character arc in itself, but it totally flies in the face of the point this particular story is trying to make.

🤔I guess 🤷‍♀️ if they had better writers they could have pulled it off

Personally, I think that the 'distance' between the audience and the Once-ler is really effective at showing just how ugly human nature can be without making the story too on the nose and preachy. Thing is, people are generally very, very resistant to seeing ugliness in themselves or people they like. They'll ignore it for as long as they can and when they can't ignore it anymore, they'll find excuses for it. The Lorax manages to sidestep this nicely by presenting the Once-ler as this creepy, almost inhuman figure; he's different and distant enough that you can just accept his greed at face value, you don't try to make excuses for him (or yourself, you know- "I'm not like that") but just familiar enough to recognise... Less a gut-punch and more a cold, nasty feeling at the back of your brain. Or at least that's how I felt the first time I saw the original animation. I do totally agree with you though, the new version would have been much better without the tacked-on happy ending. The original ambiguous ending would have made a really nice contrast to how bright and lively the rest of the film is.

Not to mention the pop music which will horribly date this movie. The irony is that Illumination is probably one of the worst studios to have as the adapter of Seuss' works. They shamelessly market and shill out any of their products that gets a modicum of attention so they can squeeze every last bit of money out of it, usually to the detriment of the original work. At least Disney (mostly) knows how to hide their corporatism and knows when to reel back on the saturation of popular characters.

@@Zarastro54 still better than Blue Sky Studios that just keep making 50 ice age sequels each one getting worse and worse

I cracked up at the "straight guys" joke

Ikr, this movie is a guilty pleasure but at least it's fun,interesting to make analysis and understand what the creators were trying to do

I'm not defying you with that logic, I'm defying the filmmakers for 'somehow' having the budget for LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE to sing.

give the crushes she listed, your typo's rather apropos.

Why would anyone be ashamed of loving Loki???

m3rrys0ngstr3ss My first crush was Basil from "The Great Mouse Detective," so no judgment here, lol

I have gaara from Naruto and William from Code Lyoko.... ..... What?

I have a crush on six fictional characters. All my fictional crushes are male. Warriors/ Warrior Cats (in order of first one to become crush to last): River Ripple /Riverstar, Pebble Heart, Tallstar, Alderheart. MLP: The Movie: Capper And lastly Dinidan. Sir Dinidan to be exact. I love dorky pranksters, okay!

Want the Once-ler handled better? THE MOVIE ALMOST DID, THEN THE STUDIO CHICKENED OUT AT THE LAST SECOND; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BpgUQYARIsw.html

@@MrBlueSkyof1607 Oh, I know. I long for Biggering and the glorious movie we almost had.

A Lonely Goldfish exactly! That was insulting to Dr. Seuss!

His gotta eat...... but yeah its sad

Katie Lewis That might actually be good TBH

Dimitri Koukoulas But he's the Trashman! I had too. I love His work in It's always Sunny in Philadelphia

I mean, this movie didn't, nor would it sink him. Every actor has his stinker(s).

Well....he did star in that M&Ms commercial......”Do you want to eat me?” *shudder*

Twilight Joltik Really?? I won't be able to, either!

Theatre Geek *hammering on audiences heads* I DON'T THINK YOU GET IT!!! XD

HERE, LET ME HELP! (Gets a giant neon sign with "Named After The Author And His Wife" on it and smacks the audience with it)

.....oh, Fuck you, movie!

Brian Humerez XD WOW!

They still don’t get it! *flies a plane with a banner on the tail saying “It’s the author and his wife!!”

Tarlo The Boar To be fair, when Devito is doing the serious stuff as the Lorax, it's great. This is more bad writing than a bad performance.

Austin Rutledge He does give a good performance just the script is just God Awful

The Who Editor Yeah, she'd be a more likable protagonist, since she has genuine concern over the environment, unlike Ted, who only views trees as a means of getting into Audrey's pants.

Being an entrepreneur and selling people things they need doesn't preclude someone from being a villain lol. Because he wants to make money more than he wants to help the world, he deliberately tries to stop people getting the thing in a more effective way through trees, instead keeping them slaves to his monopoly. The film doesn't show it particularly well but imagine having to pay someone to breathe, that's pretty messed up.

To his friends on the other siiiiiiiiiiiide!!

There are plants in the world just not that one area.

Look, I hate myself, and look and watch cringe pretty regularly...got an example? I’ve yet to try THIS..

tim5fl Illumination has yet to make a movie to receive wide critical acclaim. Each movie has gotten mixed reviews. EDITS: Turns out that the Despicable Me has gotten good reviews from professional critics. Internet critics, on the other hand, give a lot of their movies negative reviews.

I didn't know that.

tim5fl Their movies have sometimes gotten good reviews from fans though.

The first Despicable Me is their only good movie

Yeah I was surprised she said that. Yeah what was happening on screen didn't really match the song but the song itself is really pretty good.

He's 12 she's 14.

A Nerd And Her Books OH MY HECK