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The Lore and Recap of Tsukihime Remake 04 - Arcueid's Answer 

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Finally, the Tsukihime Remake, a piece of blue glass moon, has been released! Sadly, it's only in Japanese, so we English speaking fans need to work together to help break down this exciting Type Moon visual novel. This guide series has me explaining and commenting on all the cool new stuff that the remake adds to Tsukihime's lore.
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@tacticaldroidtx22
@tacticaldroidtx22 2 года назад
22:30 Ah, yes. Supreme gentleman Shiki threatens a nun with assault because she won't let him go outside half passed out to save his vampire girlfriend. Never change, anime!
@anadaere6861
@anadaere6861 2 года назад
Dude that thumbnail and the red hair made Shiki look like Shirou lmao He even has the jacket of justice
@technodry3216
@technodry3216 2 года назад
I wonder if they are related by a certain creator that doesn’t want neco arc in melty blood remake for some reason
@hydrasfang
@hydrasfang 2 года назад
Can't wait for Ciel's route.
@yaqinmalul1364
@yaqinmalul1364 2 года назад
Meanwhile me still wait for tsukihime update far side moon
@user-tq3px2eg8j
@user-tq3px2eg8j 2 года назад
I personally do not consider the ending of Arcueid’s route disappointing. The manga had already polished it to perfection. To quote the now missing line at TV tropes site: „The manga eats Arc's route and shits out awesome” (instead it now says “The manga trims down on some superfluous events from the original Arcueid route.”). But they should have added the epilogue of the manga, because it states them being together. Yes, not for long, since Shiki’s upgraded eyes might do him in rather sooner, than later, yes, Arcueid is still suffers from her bloodlust and Shiki must look for a special fruit to quench it, but they are still together and are happy that way. Perhaps we might see such epilogue when all the routes are done. As for switching Nrvnqsr to Vlav, I think was justified. In my opinion it was done to show how dangerous and destructive a dead apostle can be to the people and environment around him or her. Huge collateral damage with many victims? Yes sir. Zombie apocalypse with not just ordinary familiars, but also mutated ones? Can do. Nrvnqsr, on the other hand, was, how to say it, too fixated on himself. In essence, he was just a pack of very strong and dangerous, but animals and didn’t turn people in his familiars. So yeah, dangerous but not good example of a dead apostle’s destructive force. The new characters that didn’t add much to Arcueid’s route might receive more spot light in the following routes. For now, I must say I quite like what I am seeing. The new Arcueid’s character design is not worse than her original one, it is just different and she still remains a ray of sunshine that will color your world. Ciel actually looks even better than the original one. When it comes to Akiha, just like in Arcueid’s case, she simply looks different, so I need to see her route first in order to make an opinion. Hisui, my second favorite character after Akiha, now also looks even better. As for Kohaku and Sacchin, their old and new designs are somehow fell the same to me. Anyway, thank you for your hard work. Tsukihime novel is a special one to me. And even though I am past being a fan of Nasuverse and anime (I still like reading manga though), I will subscribe to your channel to show my appreciation.
@ken123866
@ken123866 2 года назад
What do you mean by upgraded eyes
@user-tq3px2eg8j
@user-tq3px2eg8j 2 года назад
@@ken123866 As I remember the story, with the passing of time his eyes become even stronger, so strong, in fact, that the glases are unable to prevent him from seeing the lines and dots, so he is forced to cover his eyes with bandages (see the epilogue of the manga adaptation). If I am not mistaken, his eyes received the first upgrade during his fight with Roa, after he realized the difference between what their eyes see.
@jeliteng3112
@jeliteng3112 2 года назад
@@user-tq3px2eg8j In Prelude and Talks also use bandages
@personagrand5674
@personagrand5674 2 года назад
Nanaya: You call that killing? THIS IS KILLING. *Stabs floor*
@vinsonli302
@vinsonli302 2 года назад
Nanaya: *saves the day* Arcueid: "aight', i'mma head out, bye forever. lol" *runs away* me: "bruh....." :| i'm not the only 1 feeling like this, am i?
@unnamed_traveller
@unnamed_traveller 2 года назад
You're not. It doesn't make any sense to me how they say good bye to each other so easily after the bond that was created between them.Surely they could have worked something out.Personally,I love the manga's ending where Shiki seeks out Arcuied at her castle.
@theswappyguy2809
@theswappyguy2809 2 года назад
Babe wake up new Tsukihime recap video
@Carbon_Soda
@Carbon_Soda 2 года назад
Took away Arc's good ending but kept Shiki's "famous line", Nasu please... Getting to experience Arc's route again (for the most part) but with this stunning visuals is amazing One of the biggest gripes I had with the original was that Ciel's route felt too similar to Arc's with only little that was added, which I suspect help to the case that CIel is my least favorite heroine of the game. So, I'm really looking forward to the changes made in her route that maybe, just maybe, will make me a Ciel fan. Thanks again for the video Dai, I love how you not only summarize the route but also point out the differences to the original and throw some lore in there. I'm looking forward to your video on the next route!
@asaasasa1116
@asaasasa1116 2 года назад
@MGS-Fan here Nah It's different Ending (True, Normal) are different Ciel literally fight with Nero> Vlov in Remake and Noel stuffs New Heavy weapons and Idea blood
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod 2 года назад
Maybe Shirou and Shiki will meet on the way to their respective happy endings? After all the world can be a mysterious place where anything can happen.
@lasislasfilipinas114
@lasislasfilipinas114 2 года назад
Carnival Phantasm
@technodry3216
@technodry3216 2 года назад
Which shirou? ubw heavens feel or saber
@pranava5683
@pranava5683 2 года назад
technodry yes
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod 2 года назад
@@technodry3216 Realta Nua I suppose
@ramonaharrison7062
@ramonaharrison7062 2 года назад
@@AtelierGod there is no realta nea shirou. Realta nea is just the name if the updated version of fate stay night. Like how the tsukihime remakes title is "tsukihime a piece of blue glass moon"
@Karlos1234ify
@Karlos1234ify 2 года назад
I love the Nasuverse
@NekoKat.
@NekoKat. 2 года назад
Another awesome recap. Still think we need a translated version. Thanks for covering it for us. Can't wait for Ciel senpai's route
@kae1971
@kae1971 2 года назад
Bra I thought the thumbnail was Shirou. God dammit Takeuchi.
@MsAnimefan95
@MsAnimefan95 2 года назад
31:09 That shot makes him look like kinda like Agravain.
@soraadcaelum2428
@soraadcaelum2428 2 года назад
God I hope this gets an English translation.
@minose400
@minose400 2 года назад
“Roa has been slain and the conflict was finally over” Peter Quill: ….That was quick.
@noahweathers4408
@noahweathers4408 2 года назад
A bittersweet ending for the first route of the remake. I had hoped Satsuki’s route would be together with Arcueid and Ciel’s routes because they seem more similar to one another than the far side routes. I especially see parallels between Arcueid and Satsuki struggling against the urge to feed. Thank you for the video. I look forward to seeing your first video on Ciel-Senpai.
@bearberserker
@bearberserker 2 года назад
I feel rather sad for Shiki and Aruceid; they have been through so much together, and now they are separate.
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978 2 года назад
Good ending is in the manga
@bearberserker
@bearberserker 2 года назад
@@huynhyurivanvladamir7978 That's good to known! Thanks!! 😁
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978 2 года назад
@@bearberserker it's consider canon ending by Nasu too so just like saber ending there's 2 :True and Good ending
@ken7007
@ken7007 2 года назад
Pain
@zen1210
@zen1210 2 года назад
Manga has already done the arqueid route to perfection with information from other route added to it. Manga one shows his three stages of MEoDP where his Pure eyes gets upgraded to ME which only shows lines. It upgraded to show points of death in living during apartment confrontation against Nrvqsr(Orginal)/ Vlav 's familar. It gets upgraded after surviving point of death from Roa which makes him sees point of Death in everything living and non living. I think you forgot to mention about Shiki able to sees PoD in Non living after his battle with SHIKI(Roa) For Me I like arc Route Manga> Remake> Original VN
@zen1210
@zen1210 2 года назад
@MGS-Fan here Arc Route was already perfected in manga and in remake they just introduce some concept to support the current TypeMoon powerscaling. What it features is Ciel route which was only different in in last three days of the original. If this will ever have sequel than I want to see God of Death Shiki. Which was shown in Arc Route End and mentioned in Melty Blood Manga
@EYYYYYJustin
@EYYYYYJustin 2 года назад
Ok but, how are Roa's clothes regenerating as well?
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 2 года назад
Magic
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 года назад
@@thirdplanet4471 I find it hilarious that this is unironically probably the reason, Roa is a top tier mage and we know there are spells to fix broken things, one of the first spells we see rin use repairs glass and it's said to be a beginner spell (Minuten vor Schweißen)
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Magical censorship lol. It's like the hulk. No way would those pants just expand lol.
@jet4212006
@jet4212006 2 года назад
whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it.
@stylinsandwich
@stylinsandwich Год назад
6th true magic
@GingerBeerRonin
@GingerBeerRonin 2 года назад
These tsukihime vids you have been making are seriously some of the best vids u have ever made, cant wait for the ciel route
@chololocothecholo2657
@chololocothecholo2657 2 года назад
Still a BETTER story than twilight.
@aayewhyy
@aayewhyy Год назад
Twilight is straight garbage 🗑
@petercarlorias7423
@petercarlorias7423 Год назад
FAXXXXXXX
@yaboigamerdouji7573
@yaboigamerdouji7573 Год назад
Facts
@HawkBreland
@HawkBreland 9 месяцев назад
facks
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking 8 месяцев назад
Miles greater.
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
I kinda wish they added the castle scene in the manga but oh well
@someoneelse4939
@someoneelse4939 2 года назад
Here it is! Nice!!!
@honomaki4ever71
@honomaki4ever71 2 года назад
Ive rewatched these tsukihime remake videos atleast 5 times arcueids route is easily my favorite and ill probably rewatch these vids again and ill be watching the FGO lore vids too once i get a little further in the game
@phelopatirabdel-malak554
@phelopatirabdel-malak554 2 года назад
Not gonna lie, at first I thought that was Shirou on the thumbnail. I swear he and Shiki have the same jacket.
@madara1445
@madara1445 2 года назад
Let this and many more series survive the algorithm.
@mikailnascimento3380
@mikailnascimento3380 2 года назад
Lets gooo....in name of justice, of course. -glorious arcuied justice- _sweats_
@PompadourSamurai
@PompadourSamurai 2 года назад
Thanks for the videos. I read Tsukihime back in 2009, so to see the remake's story some 10 years later is very interesting. There's a certain element to the VN's atmosphere I've always loved and have been looking for more of in other works ever since.
@baileyfitzgerald8329
@baileyfitzgerald8329 2 года назад
Honestly, I'm so impressed with how the remake looks. I really look forward to playing myself one day. Also I'm totally hyped to see more of Ciel, and what was changed from the original. Great videos Dai! 👍
@xx_toasterreturns_xx1166
@xx_toasterreturns_xx1166 2 года назад
9:20 Fearless- theme of shiki nanaya
@shuraragi
@shuraragi 2 года назад
Beautiful!
@ViewtifulJocian
@ViewtifulJocian 2 года назад
Really looking forward to hearing about Ciel's route! Thanks again for the awesome upload! Also just wanted to point out the music you use is excellent to capture the mood of what you're discussing.
@lambofields1913
@lambofields1913 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this! I did a marathon on your walkyhrough of the remake! While I'm... disappointed to say the least to learn that they did arcueid and Shiki like this and took out the good ending (and I was also hoping for a scene like the epilogue in the manga) and this feels just as you said barebones, I hope that at least they'd give Ciel a good ending 😭🙏
@squaredtuna3789
@squaredtuna3789 2 года назад
man i had a faint hope that in the remake might have a slightly less sorrowful ending, atleast the remake look gorgeous
@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223
@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223 2 года назад
I can't lie,it made me feel a little bit sad the ending and I can't wait to see the Ciel's route in this Re:make,which had the most amount of changes of the two of them compared with the original,from what I've seen.
@sleepylmguy9968
@sleepylmguy9968 2 года назад
It's finally time y'all. For the showdown of the century! I'm this corner we have the man who has been reborn countless times! He's been inside so many people!(sounds a little sus.) It's the Melty Blood, Honest Mid, leader of the no shirt gang! ROA! Roa: Actually they call me nasty mix Roa now. And in this corner we have a...A teenage boy with a pair of glasses, beautiful eyes and a knife. Name Shiki. He had drip ass Jacket tho. Shiki: hi. Place your bets folks! Roa: haha, this finna be a breeze. Alright out up then hand boi. You bout to catch these paws. 1 hour later. Roa in the hospital in a full body cast: ....he cheated y'all.
@sleepylmguy9968
@sleepylmguy9968 2 года назад
Roa: And to think...I got only one 'Yahoo!' in the round.
@jessyburtenshaw1703
@jessyburtenshaw1703 2 года назад
And now I feel deeply sad about this. It was so beautiful and touching. Truly thank you for telling this wonderfully sad story.
@Guille_Guiverno_V
@Guille_Guiverno_V 2 года назад
some characters in the arcueid route are like sakura in the artoria route, just a side character, since in UBW and of course HF is were she really shiny, maybe the others too in ciel's route
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
I mean it is a visual novel after all we've already seen what happens when someone tries to combine multiple aspects of different routes into a story
@overlordzero316
@overlordzero316 2 года назад
I mean it's Arcueid route,you cannot expect everyone to have the time to shine.
@undercoverweeb
@undercoverweeb 2 года назад
I'd find that castle if I were him. great work like always. looking forward to all the other routes
@BulletBillSoilder
@BulletBillSoilder 2 года назад
Thus, Arcueid went to back to sleep... Only to find the Hakunos dragged her back for their remake in the Moon Cell and repartnered her with Gatou’s crazy ass. Least she’s getting a brand spanking new official 3D model, right?
@jameshadden1798
@jameshadden1798 2 года назад
Not going to lie, was kind of disappointed with remake considering how Arcueid’s route is as you said barebones. Especially considering that Tsukihime has been stated to be a story about Arcueid. But, that being said in an interview regarding the game’s release, Nasu has hinted that beyond the remake of the near side that Arcueid’s story isn’t done yet and specifically mentions how many player doubtless found it odd that Arcueid only had 1 ending. What this entails is uncertain but it pleasing to know that Arcueid is getting more than what the Remake gave her. Personally, I’m hoping for a possible extended route for Arcueid that is unlocked like Last Episode, that ties in elements from both near and far sides for a true finale to the remake.
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 2 года назад
Maybe we'll finally get Tsukihime 2 but l doubt it
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
I wonder howl he continue seeing as how the og melty blood extending her story well enough
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 2 года назад
@@ryuixyui l don't know about everything else but l will agree sometimes stupid decisions have been made. Type moon has good ideas but they scrap them for some reason. For example, apparently stay night was suppose to have more routes chief among them being Illya's route and the 2006 Deen stay adaptation was suppose to be Tachi/Sheilder route but that got cancelled or changed respectively. Whether it was nasu, creative differences or something else entirely l don't know.
@anthonychessar7179
@anthonychessar7179 2 года назад
Yeesh, well don't you just hate TM. Saying Fate is dead when that's clearly WRONG and saying that Nasu is some hack that's also untrue.(he's not perfect like everyone else but JESUS your hate for him is just ridiculous and overblown.)
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 2 года назад
@@ryuixyui honestly Nasu's only mistake is the whole Artoria/Altria bs...
@Frankenmuppet
@Frankenmuppet 2 года назад
I'm really glad you've done the work for the fan base and storied out the remake for us. I've been wanting to get into Melty Blood for my next venture into the Nasuverse, but without understanding the visual novel it precludes, it would be almost pointless. Once I finish, I'll go back and give Mirror Moon's translation of the OG Tsukihime a go, but until then i have this. Truly, Thank you
@kaybevang536
@kaybevang536 2 года назад
I love the Carnival Phantasm Route : Arcuied And Ciel arguing over Shiki 😏
@asaasasa1116
@asaasasa1116 2 года назад
Yo That's Ciel route
@gypsysprite4824
@gypsysprite4824 2 года назад
that's just og Tsukihime's Ciel True End...and I think atleast a couple of Melty Blood Games...
@whogivesabuck
@whogivesabuck 2 года назад
Can't wait for more, these are amazing and your efforts and commentary are perfect!
@DJVader2912
@DJVader2912 2 года назад
THANKS! PLEASE CONTINUE THIS SERIES!!
@TDSFounder
@TDSFounder 2 года назад
Shiki showing Roa what it means to kill something is always amazing.
@wojciechwerner8787
@wojciechwerner8787 2 года назад
Thank you. You see life I see death let me show you a difference is badass moment. It suck that Arcueid road have only one ending. I especially like manga good ending. Him cutting his way into castle was as beautiful as Shirou and Artoria reunion in Avalon. Could not Shiki theoretically kill Arcueid bloodlust? If not permanently than at least reduce it to starting point?
@LeeCsM
@LeeCsM 2 года назад
Thank you for these videos! I really enjoy the Melty Blood games but I had no idea what was going on haha. Thanks to your original Tsukihime summaries and this one I appreciate the games so much more! Hopefully y'all continue with these! Looking forward to them!!
@hugolalej
@hugolalej 2 года назад
Im really looking foward to the Ciels route, thanks for the video.
@laelhochberg9497
@laelhochberg9497 2 года назад
You know, for all what Nasu did for the remake and giving Arcueid only one ending, this was a pretty cool remake. My problems with is are that it could’ve had those two endings for Arcueid. Another is the inclusion of the new characters. I don’t have a problem with them, they’re pretty good. It’s just that I’m wondering if Nasu is trying be like Ryukishi07 with adding new characters just like in Higurashi and Umineko. Lastly would be the censorship, i.e. removal of the eroge. It’s just like with the YU-NO remake, only a little bit. If they wanted the Tsukihime remake be faithful to the original, they could’ve made the love scenes a bit erotic and show a little bit of nudity but by making it tongue and cheek without going to far, just like the Sega Saturn version of YU-NO.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
All I can ask is to save your judgement for the Ciel route.
@laelhochberg9497
@laelhochberg9497 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun Ok.
@TheFantomsLair
@TheFantomsLair 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure the side characters not getting any development and the plot remaining only focused around Arc and Shiki like this is intentional, and actually not a mistake if you take a look at why the Arcuied route was popular in the first place, and what it wants to do. Warning: wall of text incoming. This is what Nasu had to say about it in the recent 4gamer interview: "The Alcade route is a route that everyone loves, and changing it too much might change the theme itself. That's why, from the beginning, we thought that if we were going to make any changes, it would be best to reinforce the part of Nero that I mentioned earlier, as well as the details of the scenario, especially the parts that were immature at the time." He knows what he's doing, it's not a mistake to let the new players experience the route as it originally was (mostly), and based on the reaction of the Japanese fanbase it looks like new players are loving it as much as people did the original Arc route back in the day, and the tight focus of the narrative ONLY on Arc's and Shiki's characters are actually a very important part of why the story and the theme of the route works. I can understand why Nasu didn't want to take the risk of Arc's true end not hitting home for new players the same way it did for the fans of the original. The route being "barebones" actually comes with the advantage of building the plot only around Arc's and Shiki's characters, the contradiction between their feelings and instincts, and the character development this conflict leads them to. This is supposed to be the focus of the route anyway and it works. Both of them are the unreachable ideal archetype for the other, on the one hand, they both bring something to the other's life they never had but really want. Shiki with his nihilism caused by being close to death at all times, and Arc living like a machine, not having a proper sense of self make each other feel for the first time in memory that life is just fun and both begin to cling to that normal happiness. On the other hand though, their very nature makes them a constant mortal danger to the other, and they already made a mistake they consider fatal due to this nature (Arc drinking Roa's blood, Shiki killing Arc). Because of this they have to let go of each other and this ideal life they experienced, if they don't want to cause even more harm to the other. In the second part of the route, every single scene is focused on how the characters come to realize this and choose to deal with it, every element in the plot is focused on hammering this theme of the value of normal life home. This is a theme that's central and irreplacable to Shiki's character and Tsukihime as a whole, so it's no surprise Nasu wanted new players to experience it as it is. I know a lot of people have EXTREME trouble with this, but we old fans just need to accept that this remake is not only for us but also for getting new people onboard.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Here's the thing. I'm aware Nasu makes choices deliberately, but that doesn't invalidate my criticism. After playing both routes, I can safely say that Arueid's route is shorter and less impressive. I definitely feel it could have had elements added in with the new characters without derailing the core narrative. Plus, I would have loved some inclusion of the manga's epilogue. What they did with Ciel's route was a brilliant example. It's more or less the same route, but it's filled with added content. If you play Arc's route in isolation, a lot of characters kinda just show up and disappear without adding much. Most of those characters finally go somewhere in Ciel's route, but then you've still got Dr. Araku, Gotou Saiki, and Mio who remain completely mysterious. I'm hoping those answers come from Red Garden.
@TheFantomsLair
@TheFantomsLair 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun Your criticism's not invalidated by any of this of course, that was never the aim, but it's still an opinion, and there are different opinions out there, just saying. I think it was a very good choice to let new players experience this route mostly as it was, just cleaning up the doujin jank, for reasons I explained in my original comment. Not to mention it IS very impressive in it's own way, just like it was in 2000, even if it's simpler and smaller in scope. It was the most popular route for a reason. The new Ciel route being absolutely amazing does not change that. I agree that leaving out the manga ending seems like a weird choice, but based on the hints in the VN and Nasu's recent 4gamer interview it's very possible he has more plans with Arcuied, so we might not have seen her definitive ending yet.
@TheFantomsLair
@TheFantomsLair 2 года назад
​@MGS-Fan here Not gonna comment much on that cause you clearly just dislike and totally disregard the themes of the Arc route and basically just want it to take away content from the later routes. Sure that would work so well...the manga had to work with only one route, the VN has 5, or in this case it will have 6. Always funny to see this mentallity of "more stuff=good" automatically. No that's not the case if they don't contribute anything to the route other than oh, cool fights just for the sake of it (cause Type-moon is a battle shounen franchise now apparently according to some fans :O) or side character development for no reason cause they don't contribute anything to the two main characters' arc anyway. The other main characters (including Roa) get their spotlight and development in the later routes, why would all the routes do the same thing? Arc route was always going to be very romance and slife of life heavy and that's how it should be. Also, the Far side wasn't in any way objectively "better" (this argument always makes me laugh), some of you guys just have a hard on for that kind of story. Same with Heaven's Feel in FSN. They're all going for very different tones and themes, and all very good in their own way. Plus the later routes would never work without the previous ones.
@akebikomichi7101
@akebikomichi7101 2 года назад
yeee
@FlynnMegaTensei
@FlynnMegaTensei 2 года назад
Where real men cried
@blueblxze4290
@blueblxze4290 2 года назад
LET'S GOOOOO
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
Surprised how they do this story with arc and honestly glad the manga did a better ending of finding arc again in the castle was nicer. Yeah Nasu probably just added side Characters to flesh out the cast story but not much substance as even his original stuff did main characters pooly like fsn where gilgamesh Medea and medusa and cu all only got fully fleshed out in later content but that's nasu in a nutshell having plot points go nowhere and I thought Nero would be a major player in this story. Hopefully he does get big story later. Akiha yeah I really want to see her route already quickly forget ciel ever existed" so a reference to original tsukuhime's ciel being unpopular she gained 4th wall breaking powers in the sequel. I don't like ciel much but I'll be glad to see how they change it.
@ShinJack_
@ShinJack_ 2 года назад
He add some side character who already exist from the og like saiki family. They're really important because, (Can spoiled it so read Nanaya Kiri story, Shiki real father or i like to said, the better kiritsugu.).
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
@@ShinJack_ kiritsugu is not a bad dad. He did his best and honestly gave Shirou a good life and kalied his life is normal when he runs away with them. Bad dad is artoria she is a failure as a father and king. But yeah I already know about the side cast so they aren't an issue to spoil. The cast is pretty weak just being there and being gone as it's only a formality as best with how they pop off the story and just disappear
@ShinJack_
@ShinJack_ 2 года назад
@@ivanbluecool what i mean by better kiritsugu is, kiri realize he need to stop being edgy after shiki born while kiritsugu still have weird mindset. (Cheating with other women so i won't suffer later and describe burger taste of slaughter obviously.) Also not teaching shirou magecraf and called it half assed is really not a dad moves. It's not their time to shine yet stated by nasu. But they appear in some bad end by killing shiki within arc and ciel route.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
@@ShinJack_ kerry was broken beyond belief with how many people were gone and especially illya who he tried to save many times over but failed as he was not let into the place. Irisviel was cool with it so that's not an issue. Plus Shirou was the idiot asking everyday to be taught so blame Shirou not Kerry for doing this. A magus life was not one he wanted for him. Honestly from what I've seen in arc and ciel route. I'm not having high hopes but that's nasu writing in a nutshell
@kerPlanck
@kerPlanck 2 года назад
thanks for making these. i have watched the videos several times already lmao
@pampanamonick7076
@pampanamonick7076 2 года назад
O got hype for 3 seconds from the thumbnail thinking it was shirou
@markgilberk6248
@markgilberk6248 2 года назад
By the way Nasu explained why he changed from Nero Chaos to Vlov. A) It has been 20 years since original came out and there has been a lot of unique vampires that original Gothic style vampire are pretty low so nasu decided to return to classic vampires. B)Nero Chaos is way too strong to be just a midboss, while Vlov had been stated to not be that strong.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
That's a really silly reason in my opinion.
@markgilberk6248
@markgilberk6248 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun i mean Nero Chaos is still exists in remake timeline so I don't mind the change
@Hakelous
@Hakelous 2 года назад
i think even more of the changes with come from the far side game nasu talked a little about the far side game in the recent interview
@mastertoonxd9778
@mastertoonxd9778 2 года назад
I love this series it is upsetting that her ending had no new changes or anything but I can’t do anything about that unfortunately also if anyone knows where I can buy the manga that would be awesome 👏 thanks OtakuDaiKun can wait for the next one
@whoistourn
@whoistourn 2 года назад
In this form can nanaya beat ryougi?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Totally debatable. At least Ryougi can use the eyes without killing herself.
@whoistourn
@whoistourn 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun i thought so.
@jmanwalsh32
@jmanwalsh32 2 года назад
🔥
@aboodbb8774
@aboodbb8774 Год назад
Due to the game has more focus on ciel I do suggest that they remove the title tsukihime and rename it to cielhime
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 года назад
I get Nasu probably kept Shiki's "famous line" for the memes but I still could have done without it (I just don't think it fits Shiki's character) I liked the remake of this route, they could have made it better since it was pretty bare-bones and similar to the original but it was still fun I am really looking forward to your videos on the Ciel route specially since Ciel is my favorite heroine from tsukihime and her route looks pretty different (and maybe a little improved 👀 )
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
I mean it sorta does fit his character since he's sort of assertive when it comes to women but it was definitely unnecessary to keep that scene in there
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 года назад
@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA it's true that Shiki was assertive but he was also always very kind and compassionate, I don't think it makes sense for Shiki to say something like that especially considering how he was having a hard time controlling his strange assassin lust during most of the story and how he constantly felt bad about it (like in that time he almost raped Arcueid), I just can't believe he would ever threaten to rape someone, especially someone he is friends with, even if he was desperate. also, yeah it's unnecessary, judging by Ciel's face they wanted it to work as a comedy scene but for me, it was more edgy than funny, I think it would have been better if Shiki said he would knock her out and Ciel made fun of him saying he couldn't do it, or if Shiki just made a more innocent treat like saying he would stop being Ciel's friend and she just teased him for it before giving in and helping him.
@JohnShepherd117
@JohnShepherd117 2 года назад
@@yurineri2227 I’m late but I think it would have been better for Shiki to threaten Ceil with murder
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 года назад
@@JohnShepherd117 yeah that would be better
@eriktb89
@eriktb89 2 года назад
I love the NasuVerse
@arks_knights
@arks_knights 2 года назад
Can’t wait for ciel route
@sauravsaha7465
@sauravsaha7465 2 года назад
I think they are trying to completely mimic Fate/Stay Night's style. So The main heroine gets a bittersweet ending in the main VN. If this goes on till a Kagetsu Tohya Remake, then we might have an Arcueid Epilogue along with Akiha's Epilogue.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
I mean, yeah, but even Artoria has had her happy ending for ages now.
@sauravsaha7465
@sauravsaha7465 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun True But it was added in the Realta Nua release. So they might add it in later content. Also, Tsukihime has precedent of putting Akiha's epilogue in Kagetsu Tohya. Maybe this time they will put epilogues for all routes in something similar.
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 2 года назад
Is it just me or does Roa's design kinda make him look similar to Diarmuid from Fate/Zero?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Diarmuid with shark teeth
@BradLad56
@BradLad56 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun Too bad he got turned into sushi lol
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 2 года назад
You called him Vamp, does that mean he’s bisexual?
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
Honestly all the male vampires look like goth kids wanting to be edgy just by design. Nero with his jacket. Vlloyd with his hair. Roa just being open shirtless or his back hair. Meanwhile the female one are like magical girl animes
@nyaatama8529
@nyaatama8529 2 года назад
Not much for liking or commenting. But you deserve the nod. Love the videos and love tsukihime.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Thank you^^
@DarkTheDoc
@DarkTheDoc 11 месяцев назад
Finally finished Arcueid's route, but something that's still bugging me is the removal of Nrvnqsr chaos, and you mentioned that the OG list of dead apostle ancestors was changed, does that mean that Nrvnqsr is no longer one of them ? Or was the only Change their rankings ? Otherwise I like Vlov's involvement as he was a genuine threat and the fact I've seen, for the 1st time personally, a marble Phantasm.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 11 месяцев назад
Good question. I think Nero Chaos is still referred to in Ciel's route, if only the mage BEFORE he went DA. I can't remember tho.
@DarkTheDoc
@DarkTheDoc 11 месяцев назад
@@otakudaikun Ahh that makes sense, thanks for the info ! I gotta finish Ciel's route then
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
Chad shiki has awakened but Ryougi's long ranged line of death made more sense than this one (also idk why nasu kept that rape dialogue in there😭)
@kusy2130
@kusy2130 2 года назад
It seems like Ryougi basically can cut concepts themselves which puts her way higher, while that shiki got only some precision for maximum destruction. Makes me wonder how much could they master their mystic eyes if they got even more combat experience, lets say after making them work for church.
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
@@kusy2130 well doesnt shiki (spoiler: join ciel and the executors in her true end?) That would give him all the time he needs to master his eyes
@Zeronigel332
@Zeronigel332 2 года назад
@@kusy2130 Shiki Tohno can kill concepts, like nature. It just if Shiki eyes are that strong at that time then pretty much everyone need to be careful around him
@Zeronigel332
@Zeronigel332 2 года назад
Wait what he kept that dialogue in? B-but they removed all those scenes where Shiki actually think about it
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
Shiki is primal and thinks the girls belong to him Nasu already said him and Shirou wouldn't get along and you see Shirou white knight all the time. That's basically the difference
@armandomendoza7371
@armandomendoza7371 2 года назад
Finally, the promised time
@mcatoz3438
@mcatoz3438 2 года назад
Not gonna lie story it super but as visual novel it is kinda short and there is only 2 routes.
@fatedslayerofhats7738
@fatedslayerofhats7738 Год назад
Comment for the algorithm
@ezillakilla9710
@ezillakilla9710 2 года назад
I like volv because he’s cool and powerful it gives more of an atmosphere of a battle. Also when it was Nero it felt more plain and not much action to it
@danielbatista8760
@danielbatista8760 2 года назад
👍 touching
@Hertaspacestation6980
@Hertaspacestation6980 2 года назад
So is there only 2 route or there is a third route that is scrapped?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Only two routes in this game, tho ciel has different endings.
@hydrouni3123
@hydrouni3123 2 года назад
Lesgoo
@deadwind4105
@deadwind4105 2 года назад
Can you get bad endings in this game like the old game
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Oh yeah. I just have a lot to cover before I consider those.
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 2 года назад
did you become fluent at japanese because anime
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
I'm not fluent in Japanese. I'm not a complete novice but I'm pulling together various resources to pull these vids off.
@cbthree1778
@cbthree1778 2 года назад
Does anybody know what the music that started playing at 29:35 is?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
I forgot the tracks name, but it's from the Fate Stay Night Visual Novel when Artoria first whips out Excalibur.
@cbthree1778
@cbthree1778 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun Thank you so much for the response!
@raregekota9726
@raregekota9726 2 года назад
How do I unlock Ciel’s route tho?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
You've gotta beat Arcueid's first. This guide might help. appmedia.jp/tsukihime
@samarius_art_and_games
@samarius_art_and_games 2 года назад
He doesn't need to r@pe Ciel to mess her up. Just fight her.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Sure but I don't think she'd react like that otherwise.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
I liked it but this makes me worried at the same time for the far side girls as they are 4 instead of 2 so they will obviously get less screentime or inverse better content but I don't think that will be the case as arc is his golden girl and this is all we get. The remake just feels like an update with a few add ons here and there for me. Aside ciel being so bad originally and satchin being new. Everything else will probably be just the same
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
I dunno. We will have to see.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun I hope it's a thing where If you got both gameplay saved you get the extra content like the true ending with aoko.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
@@ivanbluecool I wonder. That would be cool.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun I'm sure they have something planned If the rumor of more arc content is a thing Unless they go into paths where you can leave the main girl for arc or ciel and get a mini ending for them. Not sure but this part 1 seems more like information for the story if Nero and some others are left out.
@nobafan7515
@nobafan7515 2 года назад
Did you read all that in japanese?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Yes and no. I'm able to understand some of it on my own. For the rest I'm relying on a very short summary I found online and I'm supplementing that with my own work machine translating each bit of text line by line.
@criminalisticL3
@criminalisticL3 2 года назад
So Shiki just threatens to rape who get in his way? Wow! If Nasu wanted to make a Tsukihime hentai he should have just gone ahead and make one.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Yeah, that line has been around from the beginning.
@niekvanderhorst6065
@niekvanderhorst6065 2 года назад
More plz
@Code_Lune
@Code_Lune 2 года назад
So, there is no true ending like the one Shirou had?
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
In the manga shiki finds the millennium castle and presumably stays there (I'll have to reread it to confirm)
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
Only in the manga.
@Code_Lune
@Code_Lune 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun Why does Nasu always writes such sad stories, it’s like his ideal servant is Shakespeare.
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 2 года назад
@@Code_Lune heavens feel does exist you know
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
@@Code_Lune Can't say. He's a crazy dude.
@ezillakilla9710
@ezillakilla9710 2 года назад
What is an omake
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
It's like an extra or bonus.
@ezillakilla9710
@ezillakilla9710 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun oh ok
@MentalOutlvl6
@MentalOutlvl6 2 года назад
I honestly like the old one better just feels a bit watered down
@Wynzki
@Wynzki 2 года назад
Even though Arcueid is my favorite girl from the series, I do feel that her remake route is a bit weak. The artwork is absolutely fantastic but I feel Noel took away time that could have been better suited focusing on Ciel. I guess that'll be saved for her route l The addition of Vlov (AKA Blob) did NOTHING for me. He's pretty bland in the Melty Blood game and isn't any better in the visual novel unfortunately. Nero Chaos is deeply missed and I feel he had a more intimidating aura surrounding his character. As far as the ending goes I've kinda always liked it ending on a bittersweet note. Tsukihime is certainly a deeply emotional story and seeing Arcueid say her final goodbye always brings me to tear in a good way. I feel like it kinda fits the tone of this dark story.
@FoolsGil
@FoolsGil 2 года назад
Mmm. I know he's the protagonist, but he should have gotten his ass knocked out the moment "mess you up" left his lips. And Ciel should have done worst to him in the previous version of the game.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
She always kinda likes the idea tho, or at least jokes it off like that.
@unrankedchevron742
@unrankedchevron742 2 года назад
I think Fate benefits from being comparatively plot-focused. The Tsukihime narrative seems somewhat unfocused to me.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
How so?
@linkwolf2196
@linkwolf2196 2 года назад
Huh?
@unrankedchevron742
@unrankedchevron742 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun I think the problem, for me anyway, is how reactive Shiki is as a protagonist. So a lot of stuff just kind of happens to him. And also the fact that each route seems wildly different from each other to the point that none feels like the 'real' story, since a lot of context is isolated to individual routes.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
@@unrankedchevron742 That's exactly how they wanted it I think.
@ken7007
@ken7007 2 года назад
Nothing but depression why they do this to us
@pikachuattack542
@pikachuattack542 2 года назад
Shiro... goes to avalon?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
On one timeline, yes.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler 2 года назад
I don't get why they made so many changes that don't really change anything. They don't add anything new and don't correct any flaws. They feel like changes for the sake of changes without any real meaning to them for the most part and occasionally making things worse. :/ I think overall this re-make (of this route) is inferior to the original. I wonder if anyone will splice the new art and the old text and story-structure together as a mod.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 года назад
It wouldn't have the voices if they did.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler 2 года назад
@@otakudaikun That is something I could live with actually, since to me Visual Novels are books with extras.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler 2 года назад
@MGS-Fan here Thank you very much. I'll give it a look. :)
@justasoulsfan9805
@justasoulsfan9805 2 года назад
Arc's route is a complete and utter disappointment (outside of Vlov and the OST). I say this simply because the manga exists, which elevated Arc's route beyond what the other media (anime and VN) did with it. If one would compare it just to the OG VN route, then yes it's an improvement. But unfortunately for Nasu, the manga exists, so Remake Arc route is a joke and feels Nasu put in a weekends worth of effort in this route as its 1:1 copy paste and replaced Nrvnqsr with Vlov and a lot of Ciel's scenes with Noel.
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121 2 года назад
Really like the lore and the story telling of Tsukihime but oh boy. The characters? The romance? Both of those aspects are quite silly and dowright annoying. Fate Stay Night has the same issue and in a lesser respect Apocrypha as well.
@gondiodi
@gondiodi Год назад
your taste is just shit
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