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@edisnipes
@edisnipes 2 года назад
Thank you for explaining everything, from install process to also uninstalling in case we encounter problems, thank you!
@tangentciel
@tangentciel 2 года назад
what you are measuring on the joystik is not the input lag, but the runtime ... there is technically no input delay per se on the joystik, the input delay is generated by the processing, which converts the signal, which is more important on the controllers which process the linear signal to transform it in exponential. to measure the input delay, on the joystick, take into account the dead zone and visually check the x and y axes, measure the response time of the joystick on a well-defined inclination, example 1 ° to measure, the input delay of the controller on the buttons (excluding Hall effect sensor of the xbox controller) either with a basic LED assembly, or with a sound recording on audacity, filmed at 1000hz in your way of proceeding, the type of joysitk, will give you results that cannot be used, if you do not set a clear protcole of tilt, because there are joystik with angles of 38 ° and 45 °, in addition to the height of the stick will also change given value,
@ABDULMALIK-sj4ud
@ABDULMALIK-sj4ud 2 года назад
Which is better dual sense or xbox controller ? In terms of input lag
@crippyclips
@crippyclips 3 года назад
Looks like I’m getting a dual sense controller lol. I’ve been using this overclock method and DS4 windows with a DualShock4 for about a year now, consistent reading of 0.5ms and a total night and day difference in game, especially the joystick feel. I also run Ds4 windows as a task, not a program, not sure if that matters. Nonetheless thank you so much for all of your help in the videos you post. You are a legend. Is there any way I can donate to you?
@lonelyjaco
@lonelyjaco 3 года назад
Thanks again fr33thy, been messing around with controller on cod lately. Perfect timing :D
@NdxtremePro
@NdxtremePro 3 года назад
In DS4 you created the profile, but didn't set it as the used profile. Could that be the reason you had to use the other one?
@TheTAKNO
@TheTAKNO 3 года назад
I haven't touched a controller for years but I was going to pickup one to play a couple single-player games and here you are delivering another informative video. Thank you so much!🥰 I appreciate your time and effort bro
@jmixedd
@jmixedd 3 года назад
my ps5 controller is reading 29k polling rate on the tester lmao
@ShadowDestiny
@ShadowDestiny 3 года назад
Great video! If you figure out any way to get better results out of the Astro C40 controller please let me know!
@ShadowDestiny
@ShadowDestiny 3 года назад
The highest I got on the Astro is like 311, as you said at 4:18, overclocking didn't really do anything :(
@joshc3943
@joshc3943 2 года назад
Does scuf have the same input delay as the ps4 controllers and with the ps5 scuf reflex because they’re using the same inners and drivers ?? If you can answer I’d appreciate it a lot
@budgetking2591
@budgetking2591 Год назад
So for the Kingkong2 controller it doesnt really work, but it does help, it doesnt lower the latency, but it makes it more consistent, without this delay jumps between 8 and 12 ms every input, now it sticks at 10 ms.
@crisavila82
@crisavila82 3 года назад
Thank you god I’ve been waiting for this video from fr33thy for about 2 years . I was the original one who showed ds4 software when we worked on my pc and kept bugging him on discord lol if there’s anyone who can push this too 1400 it’ll be fre33thy. Your next project is too push the ds5 to its limits lol
@FourzeroBF
@FourzeroBF 3 года назад
Never thought we'd see a controller video :D
@jonathaaleman3369
@jonathaaleman3369 3 года назад
are you going to make an optimization video for windows 10 pro?
@loiclopez3584
@loiclopez3584 Год назад
Hi and thanks for the tutorial, I'm trying to achieve the lowest input lag on a 8bitdo dongle does is it suitable to overclocking or does an alternatives exists to have better input lag with a dongle?
@lamapukas
@lamapukas 3 года назад
how to improve input/delay for keyboard and mouse? i mean yea u can increase refresh rate/hz of the mouse but theres is something more?
@zedone7181
@zedone7181 Год назад
great video, explains the problems I was having with overclock software. I am waiting for the new PS5 dual sense edge controller to be released and then will run through this process again. Thanks
@eckz8659
@eckz8659 16 дней назад
Did you pick it up? How's it going?
@abs1_
@abs1_ 11 месяцев назад
could you do an updated video on the ps5 pad and the new high speed support 8k rate on the hidusbf and updated firmware on the controller , i think there are many inconsistencies but maybe you can show us how to do it properly
@camfv
@camfv 3 года назад
it doesn't work when i have my wire plugged into my controller but it works without a wire. wireless works but with a wire doesnt how do i get it to work with a wire
@LilsniperMf
@LilsniperMf 3 года назад
You did not switch profiles, within profiles you didn't select "SAVE" to activate the overclock, you still had it on default which is why you saw extremely similar numbers
@GnarlyChap
@GnarlyChap 3 года назад
And that one in DS4Windows is for Bluetooth ONLY. Does not work for wired.
@LilsniperMf
@LilsniperMf 3 года назад
@@GnarlyChap No because even if in wired it will matter what profile you select, when I was testing it I saw a difference polling rates in the tester
@Ghosty4k
@Ghosty4k 3 года назад
Was gonna tell him this as well, would be cool if DS4 was able to do it.
@stayed9694
@stayed9694 3 года назад
@@Ghosty4k It is.
@beetleburper9440
@beetleburper9440 2 года назад
@@GnarlyChap what
@moki164
@moki164 3 года назад
Thanks this helped me
@Restless_Vibes27
@Restless_Vibes27 Год назад
i currently use a DS4 controller on PC for gaming competetively and you said in the video both the Dualsense and the Dualshock controllers have 4ms input latency so would it be even worth upgrading to a Dualsense then?
@toonnut1
@toonnut1 3 года назад
I've got the razer raiju controller you can experiment with that if you want to add it to your list
@omarsalinas7411
@omarsalinas7411 Год назад
Do you know if the hidusbf overclock works with BT wirelessly connected ps4 controllers?
@pinoysi06
@pinoysi06 2 года назад
Ds4 has the same over clock within the software. Why are you using the mouse one?
@mariowayner2965
@mariowayner2965 Год назад
A good tipp is by problems, disable seurce boot on the bios
@vince1x481
@vince1x481 3 года назад
Error! Player 1 - XBOX 360 Controller Not Found! Press Enter Key To Exit why wont it find my ps4 controller, i have ds4 windows running and i try it but doesnt work, pls help
@axelboudier7534
@axelboudier7534 2 года назад
Hello Chris, i can't find your video on mouse overclocking but anyway, i have a mouse that i want to overclock, i know that it's possible because on the Overclock.net thread off SweetLow someone overclock the same model at 2900hz, the problem is that i got an error with ATSIV when running the " Atsiv.exe -f hidusbf.sys", the mouse don't overclock, i can downclock but i can't overclock, so i think it's a windows version problem, can you tell me what version you use while doing your video on this? i really need it, Thx for reading this message and sorry for my bad english
@Fortinni
@Fortinni Год назад
do you asume it will be the same with the ps5 scuf reflex?
@iN_O_O_B_Y
@iN_O_O_B_Y 3 года назад
What’s the best Xbox controller. I prefer the shape over the ps controller?
@sandalero
@sandalero 2 года назад
chris can u help me : Why do i get 50 ms mouse input lag on winXP with a 125Hz no name mouse vs 100 ms lag on win 10 with logitech g403 hero with 800dpi and 500 Hz polling rate on glquake? The game is capped at 72fps.?
@klaasfaak7860
@klaasfaak7860 3 месяца назад
i have a dualsense but i cant seem to get it higher than 1040hz polling rate instead of +-1300hz what might be the cause?
@neyapacanaw
@neyapacanaw 3 года назад
Keyboard and mouse input lag after using DDU chris? Only games
@nebzii
@nebzii 3 года назад
Anyone trying this on fortnite on a wired ps5 controller connection found a fix when your building sometimes it feels like you have macros and sometimes when your character is running you randomly stop
@anmay5129
@anmay5129 3 года назад
my controller doesnt show up in the overclock software, only the audio point shows up can someone help? (ps5 controller)
@fearfactful
@fearfactful 3 года назад
I'm on a ps4 controller but it won't let me install it gives me an error even when I turn off secure boot
@paulkennedy8163
@paulkennedy8163 3 года назад
it goes red when i make the overclock and it wont work unless i revert it
@GcontrollerG
@GcontrollerG 2 года назад
If i cant use the filter on and i can only put the numbers like 1000 and still had 4 on my response it will still change ny input delay or should i stick with default?
@spyridonize
@spyridonize 3 года назад
U didn’t apply the „save“ profile on the controller after u saved it u have to go to the first page „controller“ and select it. On urs it still says selected profile default
@MM-zw3cz
@MM-zw3cz 3 года назад
Yoo that's a great video. I'd like to ask you can i get the same response time of dualsense for my Dualshock4 controller? I have dualsense but i did not like cuz it feels too big on my small hands but i noticed a waaaay better response time than dualshock4, so yep the question is can i make my dualshock4 as responsive as dualsense?? Thanks!
@itsyoboigucci7578
@itsyoboigucci7578 2 года назад
With hidusb and ds4 windows software, i have gotten 0.6 ms latency on my dualshock 4 controller over bluetooth. Yes "BLUETOOTH" not over wire.
@Scarftail
@Scarftail Год назад
It's unfortunate that the only two hall effect controllers I'm aware of can't be successfully overclocked.
@xaviervincent6345
@xaviervincent6345 3 года назад
Good video, I think I will buy a DS5 controller.
@alexab780
@alexab780 3 года назад
Great Vid !
@bradleymather5466
@bradleymather5466 2 года назад
So the ps4 controller with a strike pack has less input delay then the elite series 2
@aimzdz6357
@aimzdz6357 3 года назад
Wow this is life saving
@AggMarios
@AggMarios 3 года назад
does any of this apply to arcade sticks ?
@futi7034
@futi7034 3 года назад
Where do I get that certificate from?
@nuni6496
@nuni6496 2 года назад
Hey on the hidusbf Thing my controller dosent show up
@FR33THY
@FR33THY 3 года назад
WELP so I just made a ps4 controller 1000hz, I will do a follow up video and show how to overclock to 4k or 8k if possible. Sorry about the misinformation, looks like xbox controllers just suck and are hardware locked with the hz. Looks like you can overclock old gen playstation just as well! Want CHEAP Windows and Office Keys! Flat 10% Off on all software. Coupon code: FR33THY www.bnh-software.com/?ref=8WYNN95vZQF6S
@stayed9694
@stayed9694 3 года назад
@@808chadda 😐 this is common sense, put the controller in sharing mode, go to bluetooth, search for devices and connect to "wireless controller"
@stayed9694
@stayed9694 3 года назад
@@808chadda Just make sure the driver is installed and its as simple as that
@BangSkeeet
@BangSkeeet 3 года назад
In your followup, please compare latency between Steam's built-in input/controller API and the other apps you showed here
@808chadda
@808chadda 3 года назад
@@stayed9694 It is... Why does it show up in DS4 but not in the Setup.exe?
@stayed9694
@stayed9694 3 года назад
@@808chadda you completely changed your comment to make my reply seem off and then you're asking for my help 😂😂 Planet earth ladies and gentlemen, full of idiots
@hKufeldt
@hKufeldt Год назад
Where are the links in the description?
@jefrymedina3067
@jefrymedina3067 3 года назад
My astro c40 is not showing in DS4windows how can i fix it?
@halloweeninheaven
@halloweeninheaven 2 года назад
I tried it and I’m on window 11 and scuff controller and it’s not working, it’s annoying
@human1141
@human1141 2 года назад
I have got 0.01ms and pulling rate 28000, and I don't know if true or not
@haristurer1120
@haristurer1120 2 года назад
cant see no links for the downloads
@IIAmzazZ
@IIAmzazZ 3 года назад
Does having a high end pc vs mid range pc affect input delay?
@joshuasmith1157
@joshuasmith1157 2 года назад
in games where input delay is affected by your frame rate, yes. Rocket League for example
@geo5295
@geo5295 3 года назад
Man I hate that when controllers take over your audio
@Peyton_rl
@Peyton_rl Год назад
tested the thrustmaster eswap, out of box is getting consistent 1.9ms
@Deltara
@Deltara 3 года назад
oh no no no seriously tho, respect the mad video consistency and useful content
@voczr
@voczr 3 года назад
YES THANK YOU
@InstincTx4
@InstincTx4 3 года назад
Make an updated one for kbm plz
@exsicario
@exsicario 8 месяцев назад
where you download sweet low certificate
@exsicario
@exsicario 8 месяцев назад
i got the edge dont know why it dont go to 1000hz in the test higers go like 600hz
@animusvox6787
@animusvox6787 3 года назад
thank you ! i did the LordOfMice /hidusbf overcloack, but in latencymon wdf01000.sys is so high, and in game it s weird... is that normal ?
@animusvox6787
@animusvox6787 3 года назад
I have wdf01000.sys at +1000 in few second when others are at around 4-5. it s ok ?
@yaroslavchernyshov3725
@yaroslavchernyshov3725 3 года назад
i just tested it and my ps5 controller came with a 1ms response straight up. No need to mess with any overclocks. The only problem is that my results very between 0Hz and about 1.5hz. Average score is 1.1hz. So very inconsistent. I am running it through Bluetooth. Is it possible that something might be interfering with the signal?
@med4676
@med4676 2 года назад
Run wired
@germanwach
@germanwach 2 года назад
I got 1ms by default in DS4Windows in bluetooth 5.0 (Amitosai MTS-BT5PRO) with my dualsense controller
@42misery58
@42misery58 2 года назад
can i use xbox 1 controller on ds4 windows?
@blisscottii
@blisscottii 3 года назад
the only issue with ds4 is that it runs as an overlay so the clicks are less delayed but the stick inputs are delayed. kinda like running exclusive fullscreen vs not running it. the only way to reduce the delay is to use the "hide Ds4 Controller" option but it bugs out at doesn't launch into exclusive mode. the latency is consistent but its delayed
@Tsteezzz
@Tsteezzz 3 года назад
Is there any other software that supports the ds4 that would give less delay? Cause i OC the ds4 but the right stick feels heavy and like exponential almost and my sens is so slow and turning is too hard because even on console it felt smoother and way more consistent
@angelrobles23
@angelrobles23 2 года назад
@@Tsteezzz did you find a solution for this. im currently having the same issue with my right stick
@trehndi
@trehndi 3 года назад
this also work for xbox controller?
@ohlennny
@ohlennny 2 года назад
15:55 delete overclocking for controller
@xRebornAngelx
@xRebornAngelx 3 года назад
Just tried my Razer Raiju and got 2000 hz and 0.48 average, thx for the nice Video btw. :)
@zenkpo3635
@zenkpo3635 2 года назад
is it the ultimate or tournament?
@xRebornAngelx
@xRebornAngelx 2 года назад
Just the normal razer raiju 😊
@Harry-pl7ob
@Harry-pl7ob 3 года назад
My DS4 gives me an average of 0.55ms and 1800hz polling rate. I ordered a better usb cable as I've been using a random one so i'll see if that makes a difference. I have a PS5 controller too so i'll test it and see how it compares, but I'm happy with the results so far.
@names-j
@names-j 2 года назад
Just stumbling on this now, I was having the same, did a different cord change anything?
@WoodOxha
@WoodOxha 2 года назад
any update ?
@beetleburper9440
@beetleburper9440 2 года назад
Your polling rate is to high is should only be overclocked to 250 poll rate within hidusb as setting to 1000 will actually set the poll rate to 8000 on the ps5 which games don't support and you'll have all sorts of issues. The guy making this video should of done a little more research
@kamerontoews5737
@kamerontoews5737 Год назад
@@beetleburper9440 is 1000 good for ps4?
@Aclors4
@Aclors4 Год назад
@@kamerontoews5737 bro, this is just applicable when using PC, because this settings are saved on your PC usb port, If you do this and then connect it to a console, nothing will change, or If you are talking about just the ps4 controller the answer is yes, it works fine I have it and I get like 0.5 ms really good
@yefale1777
@yefale1777 3 года назад
Can you overclock a keyboard and mouse like this?
@Aclors4
@Aclors4 Год назад
Yes
@antoniskiriakides5093
@antoniskiriakides5093 Год назад
Do you know what polling rate is the ports on ps5 console and what i should use wired or bluethooth i talk only for ps5 console not pc please answer
@antoniskiriakides5093
@antoniskiriakides5093 Год назад
I heard on console wired is 250 locked and with bluetooth can go up 800 non stable
@monsterofwar
@monsterofwar 3 года назад
круто, спасибо!
@edvr7
@edvr7 3 года назад
Thanks
@zipobob1
@zipobob1 3 года назад
I wish he reviewed Google Stadia service to see how gaming over stream is in terms of latency. (as well as the Stadia controller it self)
@mryellow6918
@mryellow6918 3 года назад
All you need to know is its bad and almost unplayable for anyone that thinks 30 fps is unplayable
@WrexBF
@WrexBF 3 года назад
I wish the PS5 left analog stick was in the same location as the xbox. I'm one of the very few people that like to play with a controller+mouse combo on PC, and the position of that PS5 analog stick makes playing with that combo pretty much impossible.
@iN_O_O_B_Y
@iN_O_O_B_Y 3 года назад
Omg I also like to play like that. Left hand controller right hand mouse gang
@DeathDeclined
@DeathDeclined 3 года назад
Now we just need ps5 controllers that have paddles they are so hard to find in stock
@dgm778
@dgm778 2 года назад
work with bluetooth?
@michaelflicek7623
@michaelflicek7623 Год назад
how do you uninstall the sweetlow certificate? My memory integrity wont turn on because the sweetlow hidusbf.sys is blocking it.
@napoellisyt
@napoellisyt 3 года назад
I used a PS4 Battle Beaver controller and got a 1400 Polling Rate Hz
@TurntableTV
@TurntableTV 3 года назад
I do not use controllers but imma watch it anyways.
@ilatic
@ilatic 3 года назад
so whats the best controller latency wise?
@jayhathaway4720
@jayhathaway4720 Год назад
ps5 dualsense, followed by ps4 controllers
@expofcam
@expofcam 3 года назад
i can’t get ds4 to work on server still trying to figure it out:/
@expofcam
@expofcam 3 года назад
got it working!
@chrishunter1226
@chrishunter1226 2 года назад
Hi FR33THY! I have an XBox Elite 2 controller. Went through the steps but it wasn't recognized by the program you gave. Does this only work for PS controllers buddy? Thank You! Halo Infinite Is Out BTW! Huge FR33THRY Optimization Video Hoped For!!!! ♥️
@jayhathaway4720
@jayhathaway4720 Год назад
yeah all xbox controllers have locked polling rate except the victrix gambit and thrustmaster eswap
@beastua3904
@beastua3904 3 года назад
Omg. Please let them bring out the back button for ps5 I need to use itttt
@YukiAEP
@YukiAEP 3 года назад
i just tested my dualsense after oc and got 3.5k hz
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage 3 года назад
You can use a wireless controller wired.
@HustlersCourage
@HustlersCourage 3 года назад
Well some games like fortnite gets double input when DS4 is running in the background.
@B47ANCED4L
@B47ANCED4L 3 года назад
Chris I love you.
@JalenCrossland
@JalenCrossland 2 года назад
My ps5 controller wont go over 600 for some reason, would my cpu overclock affect this?
@beetleburper9440
@beetleburper9440 2 года назад
No your CPU has nothing to do with your controller
@drill6770
@drill6770 3 года назад
are you still rocking the 1809 server?
@expofcam
@expofcam 3 года назад
i can’t get ds4 to work on server
@budgetking2591
@budgetking2591 Год назад
i watched the video 3 times i still dont know if its about the ps4 or ps5 controller
@zanecy
@zanecy 3 года назад
i get with the ps5 controller 0.01ms, polling rate 65k wtf
@warping
@warping 2 года назад
i just compared my xbox elite series 2 and my ps5 controller. the xboxs response time is around 7.2-7.5. as the overclocked ps5 controller is 0.22-0.01 response time. overclocking the xbox controller makes no difference.
@kryptexo
@kryptexo 2 года назад
Do you feel the difference between 7.2 and 0.22
@warping
@warping 2 года назад
@@kryptexo yeah i do, although not the full difference because my cpu is bad so upping the polling rate of my controller makes my cpu usage shoot up and i lose fps
@yoshi1951
@yoshi1951 2 года назад
Great idea. But when playing multiplayers you got already a delay of over 100ms within your game on console, because of international servers. So what's the point of reducing 5 ms here and there?
@ryangarcia7521
@ryangarcia7521 2 года назад
You are confusing input delay and ping....Two different things.
@xc8951
@xc8951 2 года назад
this doesnt work for console the controller switches its polling rate to default when u use it on a console
@Aclors4
@Aclors4 Год назад
@@xc8951 can u explain more?
@elvatoanbu.3833
@elvatoanbu.3833 3 года назад
Im gomna try this oc with my ps2 controller
@beetleburper9440
@beetleburper9440 2 года назад
You should actually set it to 250 not 1000 poll rate as the ps5 controller will 4x the poll rate and you'll actually encounter some issues within games.
@spunkimonkey90
@spunkimonkey90 2 года назад
I have never had any problems with 1000 hz
@edisnipes
@edisnipes 2 года назад
Setting it to 250 worked way better for me too and I checked the polling rate, still getting 1000ms+ with the polling rate tester he recommended after setting the rate to 1000 in hidsubf
@hoda7070
@hoda7070 2 года назад
My pc gone crazy after that i have huge fps drops in game with 99% system interrupt do u know solution?
@JonelKingas
@JonelKingas Год назад
same
@JonelKingas
@JonelKingas Год назад
disable xbox the reason this happoens is cause xbox and duelsense controls keep switching when pressing something and causing it idk how to disable duelsense to use xbox inoputs only like fr33thy in this video
@hoda7070
@hoda7070 Год назад
@@JonelKingas how i disable xbox any tips?
@JonelKingas
@JonelKingas Год назад
@@hoda7070 go to edit profile than other and tick off the check mark (Disable virtual controller)
@PixelGod240
@PixelGod240 Год назад
Even with 1k or 8k I get latency pretty badly from alot of different games. ;(
@sohlr
@sohlr 3 года назад
What's the best nvidia driver right now?
@expofcam
@expofcam 3 года назад
457.30
@sohlr
@sohlr 3 года назад
@@expofcam knew it
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