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The Magnus protocol theories and thoughts [Ep. 1-10] 

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0:00 - Intro
2:37 - Episode 1
7:34 - Episode 2
8:59 - Episode 3
10:09 - Episode 4
13:31 - Episode 5
16:10 - Episode 6
20:01 - Episode 7
23:09 - Episode 8
24:40 - Episode 9
27:43 - Episode 10
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@GraphiteCat
@GraphiteCat 2 месяца назад
the fact that alex actually posted “PLEASE DONT MAKE MR BONZO A TWINK HES A BEAR” will never not be funny
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
He’s RIGHT tho, we can still make mr bonzo hot but like- bears are hot too!!
@GraphiteCat
@GraphiteCat 2 месяца назад
@@PinkelotjeArt hes absolutely correct i just love the fact that no matter what they do alex and johnny cant make characters that the fandom wont twinkify
@ross1910
@ross1910 2 месяца назад
if we need a twink we've got needles for that anyway
@elliottjunkyard2185
@elliottjunkyard2185 2 месяца назад
"Can he read?" is the new "You don't sound Russian." 😂
@spilledink849
@spilledink849 2 месяца назад
I cant describe how much I love "Getting Ushenka-ed" imagine if we called being body snatched and replaced as "Getting Saha-ed" or being beaten to death with a metal pipe "Getting Leitner-ed"😭
@spilledink849
@spilledink849 2 месяца назад
Also huge props on the Klaus thing that makes so much sense and ur so much smarter than me i thought he was just the last dude in gwen's position
@inkycorvid3248
@inkycorvid3248 Месяц назад
I THOUGHT PEOPLE *DID* DO THE "GETTING LEITNER'ED" THING AM I CRAZY
@GaaMacgfx
@GaaMacgfx 2 месяца назад
I also wish everytime I said Jurgen Leitner the classic slander would play quietly in the background lmfao
@kingfisherc9608
@kingfisherc9608 2 месяца назад
Of all the things bonzo might have been, a hitman was something no one expected Just like the Spanish Inquisition
@chiffon5189
@chiffon5189 2 месяца назад
I have a theory that the binder and more specific classifications is to weaken the powers influence. A lot of fear is derived from the unknown so if the fears are broken down into specific classifications then there is less of that fear.
@haldan_or_glitch
@haldan_or_glitch 2 месяца назад
something i'd like to point out is that a bit after that thing emerges from the magnus institute and before the voices start, you can hear the ambiance sound effect that would play either whenever jon used his eye powers or it's the one that would play whenever peter appeared in a room
@totallyaccurate9929
@totallyaccurate9929 2 месяца назад
12:05 Jon, Martin and Jonah were the only people in the panopticon as the fears were taken through and all had really strong connections to the fears so it makes sense that all three would be taken through and taken together. I know it was Elias' body but as Jon said, Elias was completely gone it was all Jonah and therefore Jonah's consciousness that got dragged through with the entities (I know you dont think JMJ is actually their consciousnesses but I think eitherway it makes sense)
@totallyaccurate9929
@totallyaccurate9929 2 месяца назад
also your cats are adorable and I love them
@jazmineraymond7495
@jazmineraymond7495 2 месяца назад
I wonder if the voices in the computer aren't our John and Martin but maybe this universes John and Martin got Ushenkaed.
@clockwork_bard2871
@clockwork_bard2871 2 месяца назад
34:19 boy, aren't we gonna look silly when Chekhov's Bagel comes back to bite us on the ass (silly)
@Fakename-gr4kg
@Fakename-gr4kg 2 месяца назад
Itd be funny if bonzo was just a Fucked Up Guy. No magic, no big secrets, just a Fucked Up Guy in a Fucked Up Suit. Thats never gonna happen but
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
Mr Bonzo is just Nigel’s weird furry roommate
@oceanbeans8546
@oceanbeans8546 2 месяца назад
I recognized gerry's voice instantly cuz the voice actor also plays boardgames a lot on a different youtube channel so that voice is tattooed into my brain
@glumbortango7182
@glumbortango7182 4 дня назад
omg Gerry's voiced by Jon Gracey. As in, *No Rolls Barred* Jon Gracey. How did that not sink in until this comment pointed it out.
@oceanbeans8546
@oceanbeans8546 4 дня назад
@@glumbortango7182 yep they’re one and the same Jon gracey!!! Gerry is the Lord Of the Board
@Hermes3xGreat
@Hermes3xGreat 2 месяца назад
The rest stop restaurant one actually really threw me because it seemed to incorporate almost all of the classic Fears into a single experience. Lonely is obvious, the elevator lady gives me distortion vibes, the "people" with copy-pasted features in the restaurant are Stranger all day, the choking darkness outside the windows is Darkness, the chef and the whole getting eaten thing is a Flesh/Hunt tossup for me, and there's even a nod to the Eye as the guests all just stare unnervingly at the victim. I think the Fears are cooperating and we're getting "hybrid" fears.
@spuekyblue3382
@spuekyblue3382 26 дней назад
To me, the copy-pasted "people" reminded me most of Lost in the Crowd, which was a Lonely episode. I think the fears are just inseparable by nature, and so every statement/case is going to have elements of more than one.
@FingerLickinEvilToTheBone
@FingerLickinEvilToTheBone 2 месяца назад
Girlboss robinson back alive again. Terrifying.
@Sky-nq9pw
@Sky-nq9pw Месяц назад
She will totally blow something up
@shadesofnier1
@shadesofnier1 Месяц назад
Great video to fill in the void that is no new episodes for a little while ! :D My personal theory is Celia is secretly Anabelle Cain, who had to fill a new body as she "tore" the previous one for her little scene in season 5. Because we don't know how orchestrated the kidnappings of the sewer cult, she's being too coy about elements of the first series, because she mentions how butterflies can't scare her and because the first talking case Chester gives her is about Hilltop Road. It makes absolutely 0 sense if you start thinking of the concept of time passing, but I will hold on to my nonsense until Johnny inevitably proves me really really wrong.
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
Oh interesting 👀
@VerminiousLOL
@VerminiousLOL 2 месяца назад
With the connection of the shared Error name, as well as specifically the sounds of a lot of whispering, radio static and chatter in the last couple of moments in episode 10 that we have heard the entity as it finds the phone, I don't find it all too much of a reach to think that it might be the amalgamated form of John, Martin and Jonah. They were after all the only living beings at the center of the actual hell universe when it collapsed in on itself. (Jonah being alive because his form is literally his eyes.) It's also the kind of body horror, and tragedy that the show doesn't shy away from. The being also sounding like it's dialing through several radio stations has interesting implications. It could be that it's dialing through dimensions like a radio. It could also be a transmitter (or relay device in this case), which relays information about this universe to the new crew through their obviously anomalous server their computers are using. After all, the eye sees through wavelengths, and wireless devices connect through wireless wavelengths all the same. Then again, it could also just be one of the new Magnus Institute's failed experiments that was left behind. There's not enough substance to say anything for sure about it yet. Whatever the case though. Wavelengths and wireless connections are clearly of thematic importance.
@sophiaaretuza
@sophiaaretuza 2 месяца назад
So excited for the next episodes. The last ones really felt like getting hit in the face on a weekly basis. I loved it. Fell from the sofa when Gertrude showed up. Sadly none of my friends are listening so I only have tumblr to satisfy the conspiracy goblin part of my brain but it has been so fun. Loved the video. Hope you do more recaps in the future :)
@aquilamflammeus5569
@aquilamflammeus5569 2 месяца назад
The perfect recap before I go and meet John. I have never been more excited for a writer to be at an event.
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 2 месяца назад
So, I think the reason the voices are Jon, Martin, and Jonah is that they were the ones still in the Panopticon. Could totes see your theory about their voices having been coopted by the entities. That said, I DO think the entities are all squished together and so those old categorizations aren't still around. Corruption homie was also decently End to me, the guy in the station had Lonely, Flesh, and Spiral, etc. That said, you're right that it's likely not to be super important.
@iamnotok7061
@iamnotok7061 2 месяца назад
there are very few tma/tmagp episodes that genuinely scare me. I think there were maybe 2 or 3 out of the 200 in tma, but tmagp 10 terrified me. cant wait to see just how actually scary tmagp will be... ALSO thx for making summary vids, makes it easier to keep track of everything, especially since i dont really undertsand the arg much
@iamnotok7061
@iamnotok7061 2 месяца назад
also little mini teaory i have, the entities exists, but are much more blended together then they were in tma. This happened cus of the eye ritual in tma that brought all of them in together, and when they were put into this new world, they blended together completely.
@adderous
@adderous 2 месяца назад
Personally, I like to think it's because the fears are newer in this reality, and there just hasn't been a Smirke to label and subdivide it into categories. In TMA, it's mentioned that they're really one larger thing but mostly ignored except for rituals failing to pull through only one part at a time. I think that the fear(s) usually take the path of least resistance into reality, and having a bunch of cults and spooky 200-year-old murderers hanging out and consistently influencing everyone who tries to interact with it into thinking it should fit into defined patterns means that those expectations shape what we see of the fears manifesting. Because they're less defined here, they're free to act on much more unique concepts of fear that random individuals who will end up as prey or avatars happen to have.
@felixrivera895
@felixrivera895 2 месяца назад
I think the Fears are composite now. Spreading into a greater universe has provided enough distinction that something as specific as Needles can generate and avatar. If you look for them, you can see them: The Slaughter and Web weaving music as the cost of your ability to play. The Flesh providing a meat suit to torment the Web's victim show host and guests. The dice of the Web portent the End.
@malmorose
@malmorose 2 месяца назад
I love how I've barely been following the show's speculation and I still, completely independently, decided either Collin or Celia would die first. Their death flags are too strong
@perrisavallon5170
@perrisavallon5170 2 месяца назад
I've been taking notes and on my page for Celia I wrote "more death flags than a fuckin' pirate ship" I'm glad I'm not alone
@phantomkowai6621
@phantomkowai6621 Месяц назад
@@perrisavallon5170idk Celia is 100% sus but I still feel like she’s got a lot more to reveal, specially to do with AU’s. Whilst Collin seems to be in the midst of horror’s happening to him, my bet some weird shit with the eye, hence recording, and probably to do with central IT. The thing that he’s obfuscating shows hints of knowing about the entities/ fears, so his death would probably reveal more info hence he doesn’t have the level of plot armour Celia does. Then again it’s the bloody Magnus universe so no one is bloody safe
@rockeater64
@rockeater64 2 месяца назад
mr bonzo is a hitman, meaning he is an avatar of the hunt 🔥
@mech5562
@mech5562 Месяц назад
idk if this is talked about in fandom spaces but i do think that the fact that sam checked the box for response department stuff in episode one is important? like. the reason institute staff couldnt quit is presumably because they signed the paperwork, the reason why jon and gertrude and others were archivists were because they signed. not sure if thats accurate but. maybe it makes him more prone to the response part? like. the magic paperwork is making him more prone to curiosity stuff. im not sure
@Afton_G_Kier
@Afton_G_Kier Месяц назад
Finally watched this video WHILE WAITING for a Short about how Agnes is [ERROR] to render XD I hadn't really considered that Celia might be on the chopping block, but you make a good argument for it. I also think your theory about the OIAR splitting up the fears to keep them weaker is really interesting, though I'm not sure if it fits better than my own theory at the moment. Regardless, you've got some great theories here!
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
A short about how Agnes is [Error] 👀👀👀👀
@Realisticallyliteral
@Realisticallyliteral 2 месяца назад
I watched your ARG recap and when the connections started connectioning around episode 7 or whatever I was like !!! The ARG and then we hit Bonzo and I just lost it.
@emmathomas2832
@emmathomas2832 Месяц назад
My pet theory is that the entities have become a lot less deliniated. For example in the one where the guy is turning into a tree I was flip flopping between spiral and corruption for a lot of it - the guy was obviously hallucinating but also he got infected with tree. The charity shop one started with lonely - being abandoned by upper management and then morphed into stranger with the volunteers who weren't quite right and then there was a little bit of buried at the end with how full the shop got.
@tayloradams3993
@tayloradams3993 2 месяца назад
skimming the comments, and with the idea that extinction might play a much stronger role in TMAGP, I feel like it's now a new 'base' for the fears. Like,in TMA most fears would, at least indirectly, feed into The End, The Desolation, or The Spiral. Death, Destruction, and Insanity. I feel like Apocalypse is now a 'base' if not the ONLY 'base' fear. I think in part it'd be extinction first as it was the one with the least connections to tma's world / actively cares about 'moving on' so would've been the first to go.
@olioverr
@olioverr Месяц назад
I cant wait for the TMP to make me descend into madness
@HumanBean23
@HumanBean23 2 месяца назад
Your videos are so helpful!! I love Magnus but it’s hard to keep everything straight sometimes!
@davidgforlando
@davidgforlando Месяц назад
17:15 I like the theory that the desolation Ghost Lynn Hammond say in tma100 You Had To Be There is Agnes Montague, I've never heard of this theory before and it's a fun little detail
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
Honestly I assumed it was canon when I first listened to mag 100, like a fire ghost hanging in a apartment, that has to be Agnes right? It’s a pretty common headcanon/theory I’ve seen, so it’s just true to me now lol
@thepunkmuppet
@thepunkmuppet 2 месяца назад
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! TURN IT UP!!!!
@apolosousa3417
@apolosousa3417 15 дней назад
I do say I think Mr bonzo might be of the corruption,because one of themes of corruption is like,on the literal sense for rotten stuff but also relationships that turn rotten(toxic) so I feel that a mascot that kids idealize would actually be like a murderer might fit that?also it takes opportunity to make his insides super gross and stuff,but then again he doesn’t reallly seen to fit any entity?
@jbowie3928
@jbowie3928 2 месяца назад
i'd say bonzo is the hunt
@justnojustn3036
@justnojustn3036 2 месяца назад
Personally i think the buried fits him more. Being trapped in a suit and being trapped by him. 😊
@chiffon5189
@chiffon5189 2 месяца назад
I feel like the point of the series is that the classifications are a lot more specific than the broad fears of the original series. I personally thought stranger but he can be literally anything.
@justnojustn3036
@justnojustn3036 2 месяца назад
@@chiffon5189 i personally hope we see more mixed of classification.
@toadstoolsandtaverns3319
@toadstoolsandtaverns3319 2 месяца назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@justnojustn3036if this is the second buried+hunt collab i’m gonna go feral (oh and DIG has hunt themes imo so uh- 2.5)
@visiblyannoyed8351
@visiblyannoyed8351 2 месяца назад
Bonzo is so clearly the buried for me, there is the berried buried word play Bonzo's handler talk about how he's trapped and Bonzo is a costume that hurts the ppl inside him. P.s great videos much fun 😊
@amandadaum8268
@amandadaum8268 Месяц назад
I love this. And I love the night in the woods background muaic!❤
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
Another person of culture I see, the night in the woods soundtrack just goes hard
@2hadowsight
@2hadowsight 2 месяца назад
i definitly see your point with episode 8 (the architecture one) being Lonely but i purrsonally immediately clocked it as Extinction. the focus on brutalism as a style, you know? i could probably make a more compelling point if i relistened to the episode lol
@lazygravy_brook
@lazygravy_brook 2 месяца назад
Also curious that Needles is very clearly Flesh (iirc surgical needles also fell under Flesh's umbrella in TMA) with how insecure he is. He's so desperate for people to fear him that he basically begs them too until he has leverage of some kind. (I also just love Needles cos his voice is very poggers)
@Crowns-Of-Crows
@Crowns-Of-Crows 2 месяца назад
Loved the video (and subscribed!) At the end of ep10 we can hear the click of a tape recorder. So far we've only been hearing things through computers or security cameras, so the fact the recorders are still around is very interesting. Looking forward to see how it all develops in future episodes. And if any of your Agnes theories are right that would be incredible haha
@mothlee
@mothlee Месяц назад
YES I noticed this too! During that scene I kept thinking to myself "what piece of technology is recording them? It doesn't sound like a cell phone because it was muffled until they uncovered something" and then I heard the click and went OH
@ned1514
@ned1514 2 месяца назад
OH YES IM SO READY
@Nikowo1610
@Nikowo1610 2 месяца назад
Omg new Pinkelotje tmp upload hiiii hiiiiii :33
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
Hiii!
@a_jae_doe
@a_jae_doe 2 месяца назад
As a kid who pronounced hermione as her-mee-oh-knee until I was 13 I felt the pronunciation thing
@guessmyname1246
@guessmyname1246 Месяц назад
When I heard San Pedro Massacre I got chills down my spine since I go to school in San Pedro
@puddes5832
@puddes5832 Месяц назад
Episch mijn dude
@cthulhluftagn3812
@cthulhluftagn3812 22 дня назад
"They wanted a non fuckable monster" Im sorry but have they SEEN the internet!?
@wa1t_______what
@wa1t_______what 2 месяца назад
ill be honest the food theory makes sense as someone who grew up hearing stories about the fae so maybe tma was the whole 'dont give your name to the fae cause then they can control you' thing and maybe the thing with the food gives the people more control (since tmp seems to put alot of emphasis on the fact that these people are in these situations becauses they made choices that led directly to these outcomes instead of just stumbling on fear) but anyways the point with the fae conection is that its apparantly so good you physicaly cant eat other food n are forced to stay in the fae realm/wild but idk i mentioned this one to a freind n he just thought i was crazy so meh
@jazmineraymond7495
@jazmineraymond7495 2 месяца назад
I did hear that they they wished they would have done more with Agnes in TMA.
@Sky-nq9pw
@Sky-nq9pw Месяц назад
Rolling With It HAS to be the End, BECAUSE: Affecting fate, The End Dice or in general gambling for life, The End (Its in the manifestations on the wiki page) "And as my luck kept getting better and better I started to feel less and less… connected to the world. Like I was a lucky ghost, or something, walking with normal but not really one of them anymore." A lucky ghost, seriously, THE END. It sounds so much like losing a part of your humanity, like Georgie lost her fear. Also snake eyes make no sense flr the web. However, there was a snake in regards to the extintion in TMA, which is as we all know thanks to dekker was a part of the end once There was this one statement in TMA pretty similar to it, called Cheating Death (MAG 29), it even made it on the Tarot Card. I t h a s t o b e t h e E n d .
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
In my personal opinion the statement is working more with the gambling themes then death. Gambling addiction being part of the web, it’s the constantly having to gamble on these extreme odds and the statement giver themselves says the people didn’t have a choice. I can definitely see the end angle especially since in tma we had the challenging death episode. But it’s more about the risk then the actual death, anything bad could’ve happened to him.
@Sky-nq9pw
@Sky-nq9pw Месяц назад
@@PinkelotjeArt hmm yes but then Im confused about snakes. Like snakes and spiders dont fit together at all.
@davidgforlando
@davidgforlando Месяц назад
11:35 I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS JURGEN LEITNER !!
@animosity9197
@animosity9197 2 месяца назад
Wait, it that not Jurgen Leitner? I was surprised to look up the casting and see it didn't match, but I kind of assumed it was a stage name or just a different credit for the same actor. It REALLY sounds like Jurgen to me.
@hircenedaelen
@hircenedaelen 2 месяца назад
They turned Mr Blobby into a hitmam
@Daisythehufflepuff
@Daisythehufflepuff 3 дня назад
YO I ALSO HAVE A THEORY BOARD
@zachariewinters2335
@zachariewinters2335 2 месяца назад
Remembering that your favourite is Gertrude due to your love of evil old women i expect you were very happy when she showed up. (I remember the technoblade and akechi art.)
@thelivingtrebuchet6180
@thelivingtrebuchet6180 Месяц назад
I think it's Lietner because his name also starts with a J, and he does sound similar
@DaniDumZ
@DaniDumZ 6 дней назад
gnawing at wood rn- hold on
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 6 дней назад
You go little beaver
@DaniDumZ
@DaniDumZ 6 дней назад
@@PinkelotjeArt moving on to stones and minerals
@Young_Thursday
@Young_Thursday 2 месяца назад
I just got recommended this and i didn’t even realise it was you omfg 😭
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
TRICK?? Hello! nebwhejjd
@Young_Thursday
@Young_Thursday 2 месяца назад
@@PinkelotjeArt Hellooo!! Ajdksk
@moroi3397
@moroi3397 2 месяца назад
(could you maybe please change the title from [Ep. 1/10] to [Ep. 1-10]? I thought for a good long while it was just thoughts and theories for just the first episode :3 please
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
ah thats a real silly mistake thanks for pointing it out. changed it
@moroi3397
@moroi3397 2 месяца назад
The Hilltop one, for me, felt a lot like the Extinction (or whatever the name was stupid umbrella you know it). Like, so many old items given freely to a place that doesn't need them is giving so trash heap. And then the volunteers manically embracing odd depravities in it, adding more and more constantly... Embracing their end with fanfare. That feels like the End, but there's a human element there as well... So yeah, Shitty Umbrella.
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
I actually- really like this interpretation, I hadn’t thought of that yet
@rhiannonchiacchiaro6352
@rhiannonchiacchiaro6352 2 месяца назад
I was getting big Buried vibes from it because of the description of being crushed by all the pieces like mentioned, but I'm thinking there's some sort of double Fear thing going on. In episode 10, there's also the part about getting "Berried," and I can't imagine that isn't meant to be a homophone. I'm wondering if in this world, the Fears have combined with each other and there are now multiple Primary Fears per case.
@moroi3397
@moroi3397 2 месяца назад
@@rhiannonchiacchiaro6352 Could be... I like that theory!
@justspillingguts
@justspillingguts 2 месяца назад
is it possible to get into the arg now? idk anythinh about it
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt 2 месяца назад
I have a summary video on my RU-vid! The actual arg is sadly no longer functional as allot of the websites have been taken down
@ajfernandez216
@ajfernandez216 2 месяца назад
I'm not sure if someone else has already mentioned it but [ERROR] in episode 10 was played by Beth Eyre, who was also Lucia Wright in TMA, the statement giver on episode 130, the Instanbul Flesh Ritual one.
@ClassyCorvid
@ClassyCorvid Месяц назад
i have a theory as to why the fears are more similar to desires in tmagp, because to me it feels like they’re less strongly footed, i do believe they existed in the tmagp universe from “the start of time” due to weird time things happening but they’re not as powerful as in tma (and they will get more powerful as tmagp moves forward, we are seeing them get established) but because they’re weakened they cannot feed off of a random passerby, but must instead seek out people who are inclined to either become a victim or an avatar which is why they seem to “desire” what happens to them i have a longer post about this on my tumblr, ill send the link if anyone asks
@alessandrosalomoni3213
@alessandrosalomoni3213 Месяц назад
Am I the only one who doesn't know what the ARG is?😅
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
The arg was a event that happened as a promotion to the magnus protocol, I have a video on it if you would like to know more. But the information in the arg is not necessary to enjoy the show
@alessandrosalomoni3213
@alessandrosalomoni3213 Месяц назад
@@PinkelotjeArt oh ok I see, I'll surely watch your video about it bc I feel like there's a lot I'm missing without it. Is the actual ARG something I can watch/read somewhere? Anyway thanks a lot for the answer 💚
@PinkelotjeArt
@PinkelotjeArt Месяц назад
@@alessandrosalomoni3213 assuming you don’t know what a arg is, it’s basically like an online scavenger hunt, currently most of the websites and links used during the game are no longer functional because the arg has officially ended. there’s a master google doc fans have put together, but it’s allot to understand if you don’t know what you’re looking at.
@alessandrosalomoni3213
@alessandrosalomoni3213 Месяц назад
@@PinkelotjeArt Thanks again, I'll try to catch up 🤷
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