The Manhunt Iceberg Explained 

Off-duty cops within Hoods is canon since the ones with pantyhoses and jackets can shout "Freeze! You dumbass!" as if they accidentally used police lingo and tried to cover it up by insulting Cash, not to mention they sound more gruff and are older than the other Hoods. This is the type of worldbuilding that makes Rockstar great.

I think Carcer City is actually based on Camden New Jersey a city just outside Philadelphia that was once a vast growing community based around the industrialization of Philly, but has fallen into decay. The crime there has gotten so bad that local authorities have experimented with CCTV surveillance to monitor the streets and crack down on crime. The CCTV system similar to what Stark Weather uses in the game.

I’m like 92% sure the abandoned house from bully is an Easter egg in one of the neighborhoods in bully where a chainsaw and oinking can be heard from the window

as someone who's current obsession is manhunt the timing could not have been more perfect

In 1994 a man named Tom Hallorn was arrested in London for selling snuff films, in the tabloid newspaper's it said "Mr Nasty sells death videos to our kids"

so glad to see Manhunt get talked about and all the lore explained in 2023. this game has such an atmosphere that i genuinely have not seen or felt from any other. the real world tie-ins like the valiant video website, serial killer names, and news about this game's violence almost made it all feel like a fantastic fever dream. there may nvr be something as dark and gruesome as Manhunt ever again, but a thoughtful remaster, direct sequel, or 3rd unrelated story would be absolutely insane

I believe Jimmy Hopkins is not James Cash. Jimmy was some sort of "anti-hero", but Jimmy would never become a killer. That's more Gary's style...

It sucks that it was revealed by the police that in the murder case about manhunt 1 it was the victim who use to play the game, not the perpetrator but the media still blamed Rockstar. Starkweather encouraging quotes are like a teacher guiding a student, while Leo's are like a proud older brother lol

Fun fact: Carcer means prison in latin. So while Liberty City basically means Freedom City, Carcer City would be the opposite

So something I haven’t been able to find any mention of from the 2nd game, is that on the first chapter Awakening after the fisticuffs tutorial, Leo tells you to ‘get patched up’, and if you stay there staring at Leo through the bars instead of going for the meds and the syringe in the adjacent room, Leo will start rambling on about how he wants to take over Danny’s body, and if you look closely you can see a certain texture on him, sorta like he’s glitching. It’s a huge spoiler for it being on the first 5 minutes of the game, but it’s a pretty cool detail that apparently remains kinda hidden even within the fan community.

What disturbs me the most is that the Valiant Video Enterprises website was designed to look like it came from the deep web...in 2003. _Long_ before the dark web entered the public imagination. I don't want to know what kind of research they had to do to get the aesthetics right.

It's great to see Manhunt still getting some attention. The 1st game is one of Rockstars best games in their catalog.

The photo of Cash in San Fierro police station can actually fit into canon since during the events of San Andreas, Cash was on the run from the law so the station would probably have "wanted"/"if you see this man call 911" type photos

12:25 you're mistaken, Gary Schaffer got his corruption charges dropped BEFORE the events of Manhunt 1. Those were separate charges, he actually got arrested after the first manhunt

You should’ve mentioned the only tie manhunt has to that murder case is the victim owning the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

55:40 Seeing this right now makes me so happy, thanks for the credit. I made this iceberg and version of Manhunt 2 because i love our community and i want to give that game the justice it deserves. Nice video, you only missed a few parts of the iceberg but still real good content!

Mr. Nasty could be a reference to Mr. Cruel, a serial child diddler in Austrailia known mostly for the fact that he never got caught and no one has any clue who he is. While there are three confirmed cases of him kidnapping and diddling, there are suspected earlier cases as well and a later murder that may or may not be related to him. While Mr. Cruel didn't fund or make snuff films the resemblence in name and the fact that no one has a clue who Mr. Nasty is makes him a possible inspiration for R* creating the character.

I love everyone keeping the manhunt name alive makes me so happy we all care about a single player game from 20 years ago 😂

So glad you're covering this game, I've grown up with this game ever since Manhunt 1 released and I've been hooked on these kinda games and even the Postal series since.

The happiness I'd achieve if they made manhunt 3 or just remastered the first would be monumental.

Here's a little fact about the Manhunt Steam version: Rockstar sells Razor's cracked executable, although masked, and is why it doesn't work on current operative systems. The original crack worked up to Windows XP, but Rockstar wasn't aware of that and the anti-piracy measures are triggered in Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and 11. Vadim M made a video about this in depth, but in short, Rockstar was so lazy on the Steam release that they took an ancient crack, removed Razor's signature, and didn't bother to test it before selling it on Steam, leading people to believe the game had compatibility issues when in reality they're falling victim of the built-in anti-piracy measures, even though they legally own the game.

The discarded menu blow my mind, surely one of the best manhunt icerbergs ever made

sorry to "umm acshually" u but, the murder case that involved the media saying the police found a copy of manhunt is a bit deeper than just that, the family did try to sue but they failed because it turned out the game was found in the victims room, not the killer's. (also there is an uncensored version of the manhunt 2 for the wii, although i think it only released on certain countries) (also also the first tier of the iceberg the abandoned house its probably referring to in Bully is one that supposedly has piggsy inside, theres a really old video on youtube where it shows if you get close you can hear piggsy but it may have been a hoax, i dunno)

In regards to Manhunt & Bully links, instead of Cash and Jimmy being related, I've always wondered about the potential of *Leo Kasper & Gary* being related: * Similar head shape * Similar facial features * Both have sociopathic tendencies * Both manipulate and get in the head of the main character and others to do their bidding

The crazy thing about Donald Love is that even if he ISN'T 'a Manhunt character' technically, he's STILL objectively one of the most fucked up Rockstar characters with possibly the highest canonical body count out of anyone else save for Toni Cipriani himself. His cannibalism was already revealed in 3, but displayed in full glory and amped up past 11 in LCS. But that's not the craziest thing he does: he very casually orchestrates what would've been at the time of the game's story (1998) the single deadliest instance of domestic terrorism the whole country had ever seen. After getting bankrupted by a failed mayoral election campaign -- which included Love conspiring with the Leones to pit the other gangs against each other to aid his propaganda pushes and property value manipulation schemes -- he enlists Toni to rig several high-power bombs beneath specific spots in underground tunnels beneath Fort Staunton, which blows the whole area to smithereens which kills hundreds or thousands of innocents instantly. He devises this plan using re-development plans created by his mentor, Avery Carrington (introduced in vice city), which he acquires by murdering a fleeing Avery (although he comments that Avery would've done the same to him had the financial incentive presented itself and would've been proud of his successful assassination and usurping). This makes him even more wealthy than he was prior. Oh, and he is revealed in LCS to stage *morgue parties* where he's heavily implied to engage in necrophilia in addition to the indiscriminate cannibalism. Despite being one of the most abhorrent characters ever introduced, he ultimately ends up escaping all consequences (at least immediate) by disappearing/escaping capture/assassination during the events of GTA 3. Such a fascinating, insane character.

I'm pretty sure there's a joke from Trevor about Cash being an associate of his. Also, Carcer is based on Chicago. Quite heavily. I asked a friend who worked on the games about it a while back.

Just because Manhunt was released in 2003 doesn't mean it takes place in 2003. Same with Bully, it's completely unknown when it takes place. For Bully they purposefully didn't make it take place in a certain year because they wanted players to be able to connect it to when they were in school, essentially an attempt to make it timeless.

Fun fact: one of the Smilyez members, Fug, is voiced by actor Glenn Fleshler who played Errol Childress/The Yellow King in True Detective Season 1. The actor also portrayed the bootlegger, George Remus, in Boardwalk Empire.

I’m thinking the whole JEC and Sons was just an Easter egg, since the level Assassination and all of the Leo levels were in 2001, two years before Manhunt and 5 years before the main story of 2. Alternatively though, if we find out that James Earl Cash is actually JEC Jr., his dad or maybe even grandfather could be the JEC that owns the construction company. As for the Jimmy Hopkins theory, it’s worth noting that regardless of timing of the school days in theories, Cash was already wanted in San Andreas in 1992.

i remember buying it off the controversy ALONE it was the best thing that could’ve happened to this game. i remember kids at school bought it opening day because lots of us were concerned they’d pull it off shelves because of all the hysteria

There was always something about this game and franchise I truly liked, granted its pretty out there with its horror but it always stuck with me and genuinely terrified me. Thank you for making me love Manhunt even more!

As a huge manhunt fan this is all I've needed and I'm glad there are people still talking about the game in 2023

I can't believe I never noticed that Antonio Nappa from "Oz" and Hector from "Breaking Bad" were the same actor! I just replayed "Manhunt" like 2 months ago for the first time in maybe 15 years and I completely missed that little detail. Oz is one of my all-time favorite shows ever made right along with Breaking Bad then Manhunt is one of my all-time favorite video games ever made too so I love that little detail! Hearing the tramp's voice after knowing, it's obvious that it's the same guy and that small detail just makes the game that much more amazing! Great video, thanks for making it!

I absolutely LOVE the manhunt series. I love your manhunt vids, man!

And with the project miltia being called Hades, Hades is the Greek god of the underworld (hell) and Cerberus is the 3 headed dog that protects the underworld in Greek mythology

The use of TV-MK in the final version of Manhunt 2 makes me wonder if it was originally supposed to play a much larger role in the story. Especially with how early on Lamb was supposed to be a religious fanatic presumably hallucinating both the Voice of God and Frisbee. (Plus in the final game Danny mentions how he used to watch TV-MK all the time as a kid.) It's possible that Frisbee and "The Voice of God" in the early build could have been the result of TV-MK's influence on Lamb. Ditto for the extreme depravity and violence of the hunters. (Sort of like the broadcast tower from Outlast 2.) Maybe the Project was going to use that to create and activate the sleeper personalities instead of the Pickman Bridge. This also brings up the possibility that the Red Kings, Project Militia, Watchdogs, Pervs, and Bloodhounds were all be failed experiments dumped back onto the streets or reassigned as bodyguards like the beta Legion. (Would also explain why the Legion, Militia, and Red Kings wore full masks in the beta, they were either left mutilated or had to conceal themselves while the separate personality was in control.) Lastly, in the final game it's insinuated that the Bridge didn't take effect until Danny was exposed to a broadcast at Pickman's lab. Maybe the same was for the hunters as well? (The brainwashing broadcast in the final game flashes images of a couple being intimate, American flags, and phrases like "trust the Project" interspersed with violence. Cue the Pervs and Red Kings who are extremely depraved and obsessed with sex on top of being violent sadists, the Bloodhounds who are raging jingoistic bigots who constantly accuse Daniel of being an "American traitor", and the Project Militia and Watchdogs who place protecting the Project over their own self-preservation.) As speculation as to how this could have existed as early as the Frisbee Build, in the scene select Domestic Disturbance is still listed as the 3rd level, and a beta Militia gas mask is used as the background image for the Display option in the main menu. (Adding further to this during the early build menu transition the name "Frisbee and Freaks can be seen briefly flashing on the screen. While in the final game one of the shows that airs on TV-MK is called "Frankie and Freaks." Also one of the images shows what looks like Daniel's arm gripping onto Frisbee in a toolshed with a camera connected to some string presumably filming him.) The only thing that doesn't slot neatly into this is Leo since we can assume at that point he was still a separate character. Especially since he performs the same role that Frisbee and The Voice had in earlier stages of development. (Egging on Daniel to commit increasingly gruesome acts)

I believe the "JEC and Sons" billboards in MH2 are just simple easter eggs/callbacks to the first game, so it's definitely possible that Cash is Jimmy's father. Also Manhunt 2 takes place in 2012, with the flashback scenes taking place in 2006.

Awesome work and video overall, thank you so much for keeping this passion project alive & nourished.

YES! I’VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE ONE OF THESE! I’ll put it in my watch later when I get some food 😂

You edits and explanation skills have really improved, you deserve one million subs

I'm sure Manhunt 3 WILL happen... eventually.

Been on a massive iceberg binge lately. Seeing this in my feed got me real revved up. Woo

I always thought that J.E. Cash was an independent cold-bloodied professional hired killer. Possibly demobbed from military service due to nearly beating to death a commanding officer. To him murder is almost mathematical , it would explain his instinctual knowledge for all kinds of weaponry. He grew up in a violent house hold , a sullen character who would speak seldomnly in a trailer park somewhere just on the outskirts of Las Vanturas. Similar to the protagonist of GTA3 he did a lot of hits for various factions. He was double-crossed by one highrollee who held a lot of clout and could pull the strings. Possibly one Donald Love ( who could also be Mr.Nasty ) who has already demonstrated his degenerate desires which include Recreational cannibalism.

Would love to see you tackle the POSTAL franchise and maybe even hatred too

Great content! This video was well put together, and actually enlightened me on some topics about manhunt that I didn’t know. Keep it up!

Oh thanks! I just ran out of iceberg to watch and you just upload this vid!! Thanks Source!!

i can't get enough of sourcebrew's amazing content man. keep it up

The Pickman Bridge is MK-Ultra, also most abuse victims have split personalities. I think everything in the game is based on real stuff.

With the lost menu there’s a lot of cameras and a brief scene with text saying “Frisbee and the Freaks” possibly a TV show could be connected with MH1’s credits

Here two things t2 will do with the manhunt franchise: 1. Just sit on it and do nothing with it. 2. Make a reboot or 3rd manhunt game, but wind up less violent than its predecessor to avoid further controversies. Honestly, manhunt is no longer possible since itll either get flak from the fanbase or by the normies

Jesus, 1 hour of Manhunt content !

Glad to see this underrated and overlooked game is getting some well deserved attention

I knew about the previous ideas of Danny being an extremist religious but I´ve never heard or seen nothing related to a puppet to which is insanely fascinating, I recall watching some videos (in spanish) about thar version of the game but they never talked about puppets and some else to add is the fact that they cancellled that version when they acquire the studio (because, yeah, is was a whole different studio separate from Rockstar or at least they have a lot more control over the game until Rockstar stepped in, or that´s what the video said to which they were talking about the development nightmare that was Manhunt 2), so I believe the story would be unfolded like what we can see in Hotline Miami 2 in which there is a character that kinda resemblance the latter in the fact that both share the puppet thing that makes them do stuff like killing random people, the difference being the fact that one do it for clout and the other for religious puposes, check the story of officer Manny Pardo who after seen the previous massacred with people wearing animal mask, he decides to start doing it for clout as they sees them as they were doing it just for fame and he apperantly was a failed ventriloquist and the puppet talks about getting into fame by doing the same things as those people but "better" (Obviously more and more gruesome as the case doesnt get the recognition he wants); I know is really different than what they have planned for Danny in the OG version but still you can see were or even how they could have pulled off.

"Danny listen, it's a manhunt".

Brian Cox being starkweather is a direct reference to him playing Hannibal Lector in the the movie Manhunter (based on the book, red dragon which was later rebooted as its own film of the same title)

The original story with the puppet influencing Danny to kill sounds amazing. Manhunt 2 seems like it could have been amazing but so much was cut and rearrange it felt like a mess

W video, never thought someone would do an iceberg about manhunt. Hope we can get more obscure ones like max payne and midnight club icebergs from you.

I’ve been waiting for this once since you mentioned it in one of your other videos!

If Rockstar had balls they'd make Manhunt 3 and just "leak" an uncensored patch.

Fun fact: The voice actor of the Strange Man in RDR1, also voices one of the Watchdogs in Manhunt 2.

Another god tier iceberg coverage 🔥🔥

Man i would like to see a video like this made on "The Suffering" series of games

Stuff that wasn't covered: The guy who voices Starkweather was the original Hannibal Lecter in the film "Manhunter". One of the Smileyz was voice by Glenn Fleshler, who was in True Detective. The Cerberus unit are a nod to Kerberos Panzer Cop, a manga by Ghost in the Shell director Mamoru Ooshi which has had a few film adaptations over the years. "Mr Nasty" is a name which isn't allowed to be used on R* Social Club and has been the case since it started during Max Payne 3's initial release (it's not taken, it's literally not allowed). The Manhunt game was found in the victim's house and not the killer's house, evidenced by the legal proceedings involved around the story. There's also some links between The Tramp and some cut content in GTA3 concerning a mission involving uhhh... an ice ream truck and a kill streak or smth? I forget off the top of my head. Also, a reminder: anyone using an Innocentz mask in GTAV should be griefed for being a MAP.

YESS!!! Something to watch tonight, I love manhunt and also very proud of it as it's from edinburgh

Awesome video dude! I'm playing through Manhunt on ps4 right now and I forgot how much I missed playing it all these years. I bought it the day it originally came out and it still blows my mind how amazing it really is. I wish people didn't complain about everything because a remastered version of both games or a reboot even would be the best thing ever if it was released now adays. I'm sure that will never happen.

been playing Manhunt since 2003, sir your work is admirable

Loved your cut content video, this was an excellent video as well. Good job

Amazing video extremely well done. Kudos to you

Why is this game so addictive and interesting? Its not even the violence itself that makes it appealing to me. Its the dark gritty atmosphere of carcer city. These old games like this and silent hill had a really unique way of presenting atmosphere. Desaturated color scheme, along with the dark synth soundtrack that was brilliant. The story isnt thorough on who Cash is or whats going on the background behind everything in this game but the NPCs give off little tid bits that allow you to infer about who he is and the whole story is just a hellish mess, and Cash is the devil among demons. Theyre hunting you, but the reality is you're hunting them. You're the real terror but you still feel like when that music kicks in you're in fear, and when the music cuts off omniously and all you hear is that heartbeat and just gives you this slight sinking feeling. Its just so good.

This is a good video my boy def one of my fav series

Amazing video. You really helped me understand manhunt's lore better especially 2

Vídeo mais completo de iceberg de Manhunt que eu já vi!

First video, *sees its about Manhunt* subbed.

Really good video! Not a hardcore manhunt fan but this was extremely interesting.

Thank you for this. I love Manhunt so much, it’s so nostalgic for me. The game itself, and I feel like the themes really have parallels to my own experience

Necro what? Necromancer? Holy shit, that is scary.

Tramp is a former leader of Smileys according to the concept art. He was supposed to be a later boss fight in the game but was cut. Hence the star casting for the role

I dont know if this was covered in the video, but here's a fun fact: On PS2 and Xbox, if you connect a microphone you can actually lure out hunters using your voice

This is amazing thank you for filling that manhunt mystery itch. I havent even played the game but just something about this world man. Its so intresting

Rockstar needs to get their balls back and make Manhunt 3

You deserve more subs my man, keep it up💯

Glad you made a manhunt iceberg video as the only other good one I've seen has pretty much been gone

1:05:58 menu's atmosphere is pure art.

Brian Cox was also the original Hannibal Lecter in the movie Manhunter in 1986.

So, you were in my recommended videos and I think I like what I've seen.

I love the setting and music of the first one. Sometimes I'm just hanging out at specific spots and enjoy those vibes...

6:06 i’m 87% sure that this is referring to a house you can find in new coventry where if you go to the back and stand around you can hear pig noises and chainsaws people say it’s pigsys hideout or something like that.

So many people also saying Trevor is the most psychotic rockstar character They never heard of Leo Kasper

thanks sourcebrew, very cool

17:44 that bonk was amazing

Anyone else expect the Peter Griffin "eeh, he said it" meme at 0:07

glad you did this one my friend, I played abit of the first one on my Xbox one X since it's Backwards now. man that game is 20 this year

Man this is awesome ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Source brew you’re content is so great, pls make a part 2 RDR2 iceberg

"Some Red Kings might be Necromorphs?" Now *that* just made the game a whole lot scarier...

Chris McKinney who voiced Jim Fitzgerald In The Lost and Damned also Voiced Ramirez In Manhunt

So, making this comment during the "Jimmy Hopkins is James Earl Cash" bit. Something that a lot of people don't seem to understand, or at the very least, they don't articulate the concept very well, is that there are three distinct GTA continuities. Those being: 1. The 2D Universe, comprised of Grand Theft Auto, London 1969, London 1961, and Grand Theft Auto 2. 2. The 3D Universe, comprised of Grand Theft Auto III, Vice City, Advance, San Andreas, Liberty City Stories, and Vice City Stories. And 3. The HD Universe, comprised of Grand Theft Auto IV, The Lost and Damned, The Ballad of Gay Tony, Chinatown Wars, Grand Theft Auto V, Grand Theft Online, and the upcoming Grand Theft Auto VI (presumably) The issue I see a lot of people run into is the failure to clearly understand what this means, so I'll put it here plainly: All three universes are separate from one another. GTA1, 2 and London all exist in the same world and don't interconnect to GTAIII, VC, SA, etc. Nor do any of the 3D games connect to the HD games. They are all separate continuities. And if Rockstar really wanted to, they could go back and make a new game set in one of the two older universes, without changing or affecting the other two. Characters may appear between universes, such as Donald Love, Lazlow Jones and El Burro, the lattermost appearing in all three universes as different characters. And the reason people get confused is due in part to Rockstar being somewhat evasive with their information. However in spite of this, it has been confirmed that both Manhunt games, as well as Bully take place in the 3D universe. With Manhunt interpreted as having taken place anywhere from a couple years to mere months before the events of GTAIII, and Bully being believed to take place around 2006-2007, long after Cash's rampage in Carcer City. And while this is complete speculation on dates, it's by no means unreasonable to come to such a conclusion with what information we *do* have.

Red Dead Redemption 2 had some scary and brutal stuff imagine if rockstar made MANHUNT 3 with mr nasty “know it won’t happen tho”

Killing KIDS ala Hunger Games: PG-13 Killing KILLERS ala Manhunt: Adults only

It’s crazy how gta 3 referenced manhunt before it was ever released