The many, MANY failed 4-door Porsches (including the Porsche 989)

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Porsche is known for fast sports cars, but you might be surprised to know that in 2022 4 door cars made up more than 8 out of every 10 cars Porsche sold. Yet 20 years earlier, it only sold 2 door cars, with cramped rear seats only suitable for small children. That fun Porsche you had in your 20s could be used in a pinch when the kids came along, but those kids grew and your Porsche became impractical. Customers fled to other car brands and many never returned. Porsche needed to change that.
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@BigCar2 Год назад

Erratum: The 1955 Lincoln Capri I tag it more like a 1956 or 1957 model.

@caeserromero3013 Год назад

Unforgivable 😂

@Jack-si2pg Год назад

Would be good if you made a video on all of Porsche's VW or Audio collaborations. The 914 lives with the not a real porsche stigma yet per your video, the Cayenne was a group collaboration. And from my understanding so were Porsche 928, 944, 968. The 356 and 912s also had VW engines. Could help dispel the stigma and clarify Porsche's history of collaboration.

@penzlic Год назад

That 989 is a beautiful car even today, it kept the shape of 911. Sure, some headspace is sacrificed for that long sloping line, but when you look at "4 door coupe" craze from early 2000's, or 4 door coupe SUVs, you can say that Porsche was waaaay ahead of its time.

@aaryeshg.6526 Год назад

Then Mercedes came along later with the first gen CLS to make the "4 door coupe" thing work. And I believe Infiniti came up with the "SUV coupe" thing with the FX 45, which BMW later did with the X6 and was more popular.

@assininecomment1630 Год назад

If making it look pretty was the only priority for a 4-dr, 4-seat 911, then your idea would be a good one. 🙂 However, in the real world, there are things called buyers and money and products. If you want to spend money to make something that people will actually like and want and buy and use (and hopefully buy another next time) your 4-dr, 4-seat car really needs to comfortably accommodate 4 adults. I know, I know - the 90s were crazy times. It was a wild idea, wasn't it..! 🤪 One of the wild things was a huge economic slow-down. Two, in fact - and even a recession in some nations! In the late 80s and early 90s, Porsche sold f-all cars. Few sales = tiny profits = no big money for new idea, especially flawed, and untested vehicle development.

@grunchlk Год назад

I never understood why they didn't build the 4door based on the 993. It looked so much better than the Panamera. Probably Porsches finances at the time didn't allow it. Unimaginable today, bit they almost went bust in the 90ies.

@Kacpa2 Год назад

Yeah, Panamera looks quite awful. They shouldve just went with station wagon Panamera from the very start, especially since they got styling down for 1st gen Cayenne. 4-door 911 could be done more in RX-8 style with rear suicide doors and longer wheelbase.

@romulus_ Год назад

@@Kacpa2 they've finally figured out the panamera wagon just in time for it to go away thanks to the taycan sport/cross turismo.

@Kacpa2 Год назад

@@romulus_ And after they stopped offering a manual transmission, they have the worst timing and decision making possible...

@samuel999 Год назад

The video details exactly why they didn't.

@cloudstrife1983 Год назад

993 is my fave style 911

@jayg1438 Год назад

I love how the original Panamera looks, and the 989 concept for that matter. Fastbacks are hard to do well, and I guess a lot of people find the quirky, but I like them.

@ej22_gc86 Год назад

Absolutely! The moment I saw the panamera it struck me as something really beautiful.

@Trendyflute Год назад

I always liked the original Panamera, initially in a "it's funky but I like it" way but over time it's aged into a really nice design. I also think the 1st gen Panamera was a great size; they went full-on S-class/7-series size in the 2nd gen but the 1st gen was a great "tweener" - a bit bigger than an E/5, smaller than a 7/S but with comparable luxury to those, plus more performance to go into that smaller body. The current ones are great cars I'm sure (if you can afford to maintain them!) but I miss that 1st gen size for an aspirational owner-driven luxury car.

Год назад

I always love the Panamera design, back in time when was released it was a little bit different from all the family cars on the market

@fredericperrin3279 Год назад

As a teen, I remember seeing drawings of the 989 in a car magazine. I couldn't believe how great the car looked. Many years later, the Panamera came out. On photos, it looked awkward but the first time I saw it in real life, I really liked it. In 2017 I bought the last model of the first generation of the Panamera. I prefer the first gen to the current one. It looks more special, the rear windows look so cool, the tail lights are far more original than the second generation flat bar. And the butt of the car, while controversial and not great looking from some angles, has this "F... you" look that I think makes this car great. And the interior is phenomenal, again much nice than the new model.

@JaguarFiend Год назад

I don't usually like 4 door cars when there's a 2 door version available but the first time I saw the Panamera I thought it looked amazing. I still think it's absolutely gorgeous.

@tng2057 Год назад

Irony is that two door / three door coupes can hold value pretty well despite being impractical. In particular certain Mercedes.

@gteixeira Год назад

When they are low mileage weekend cars then yes. However when people buy more practical 4 door SUVs they tend to be driven more and end up with a higher mileage.

@paulpichler Год назад

And Mercedes Coupes are very rare compared to 4 door sedans.

@tng2057 Год назад

Actually more than Mercedes. Even Mazda MX5 Miata and Toyota GR86 / 86 hold value better than a lot 4 and 5 doors.

@an-dr6eu Год назад

@@gteixeira An SUV is never more practical

@boardernut Год назад

@@an-dr6eu can´t agree more, at least here in europe a Cayenne is a pita almost everywhere

@beatles4sale2007 Год назад

Perhaps a video on the VAG group would shed some light on a few things. Obviously both companies had decades of interwoven relationships, but Porsches woes in the 80s and 90s sounds familiar to Volkswagen in the 1970s. Primarily due to reliance on one very successful platform, ie the Beetle and 911 respectively.

@Sacto1654 Год назад

As an earlier video from Big Car showed, all the attempts to replace the Beetle with a new model using similar mechanicals proved to be a *BAD* idea. It was just easier to just drop that idea and go with a modern transverse FWD platform, one that became the Volkswagen Golf of 1974.

@damilolaakanni Год назад

9:13 I wouldn't really say it was. Keep in mind that during the development process of this 4 door Porsche, they were building the 400E and 500E (later E400 and E500) for Mercedes-Benz, they even helped with the development of those cars. It made sense for them to do that.

@gabrielmiranda480 Год назад

they also build and had a hand on development of the audi rs2

@nwnwnwn Год назад

400e too? ive never known that

@damilolaakanni Год назад

@missionna8 the 500E was built to compete with the M5, the 400E was built to compete with Lexus.

@coscorrodrift Год назад

was porsche building the 400E as well? Do you have more information on that?

@damilolaakanni Год назад

@coscorrodrift according to Wikipedia, "Porsche also constructed the chassis for the 400 E, which was in essence identical to the 500 E's chassis."

@jamesengland7461 Год назад

Great video! I think Porsche has sort of repaired the Panamera's looks in recent years, but the Taycan is gorgeous, showing how far off the Panamera remains.

@triangleofdeath6246 11 месяцев назад

I can definitely see that, the first gen is hideous. The second gen looks a lot more refined.

@egooooooooo Год назад

ive always loved how the panamera looked. very angular in the front and calmer in the back. it was very stylish and modern for its time back in 2009. to me its gorgeous

@dxutube Год назад

Always loved the 989. Also I never had a problem with the Panamera's looks. I prefer the original camera angle btw.

@Dutch-vj2eg Год назад

IMO, the current gen Panamera looks quite good. I drove a GTS and it is a great car. Porsche's first gen efforts for any of their current line-up were a bit dodgy but they steadily improve them. The 996 looked awful but what came after improved each successive generation. I think that they rightfully waited, the acceptance of expensive luxury cars in their main markets wasn't there but has increased significantly after 2000.

@T.E.S.S. Год назад

That H50 would make an awesome hearse

@JoshuaC923 Год назад

The 989 actually looks pretty good in side profile, the back needs improvement though.

@markosu Год назад

I honestly cannot see why they didn't build a four seater much earlier. It would've widened their market share substantially, which really would've been good when they were low on money in the 90s.

@romulus_ Год назад

probably company culture. a bunch of old timers who couldn't fathom a sports car manufacturer making anything but that. they had to be saved from themselves in the 90s.

@CarPlebs Год назад

Very simple a combination of Cashflow and capital expenditure requirements. Simply put they would able to reach 15000 units p a and would inevitably went bankrupt

@Sv5YpWTwd9otTA4So83f Год назад

Customers were less willing to buy trash then. The best selling Porsche model nowadays is the Cayenne. 80s and 90s consumers were not that stupid. Now, they're so stupid that they'll buy fake land rovers over sedans.

@LaurentiusTriarius Год назад

They had the 968. For awhile it was probably a huge debate inside Porshaaaa, they could have made the weirdest grand tourer based on that platform.

@nlpnt Год назад

Sometime before 1955, a 356 engine and chassis tuning with a stock VW body. A German Lotus-Cortina, a decade before the British one.

@MotorTorq_ZA Год назад

i think the panamera looks lovely. its such a timeless design. its just as pretty to me as the e65 7 series

@Klopcyna Год назад

or the Fiat multipla for that matter

@MotorTorq_ZA Год назад

@@Klopcyna eh i dont like the multipla

@GeeEm1313 Год назад

In my early 20s, I rode in the back of a 944. Never again.

@stevieinselby Год назад

I never thought the Panamera was ugly ... not saying I wanted one, but it wasn't the looks that would put me off. The Cayenne, on the other hand, was a minger with a capital M. And a capital I. And a capital N, G, E and R.

@johnnymason2460 Год назад

Eventually Porsche got the 4-door models that they wanted and needed: the Cayenne and the Panamera. Both have been very successful.

@terminal-velocity111 Год назад

Such a well researched and presented video. Thanks for putting in the usual hard work.

@thrice1987 Год назад

Thank god you use images to illustrate every car. All of those 9-hundred numbers being thrown around couldn't get any more confusing 🤣

@The_R-n-I_Guy Год назад

Crossovers have destroyed everything. I miss the days of station wagons/estate cars. They're better in every way

@k9killer221 Год назад

The nominal two rear seat area in the 911 is actually very useful. You can put lots of luggage back there, on the floor and on the seats; and its easy to access. The "Frunk" space is quite limited, but OK for most shopping etc. I actually don't use it - I just throw my sh!t into the back. As an option, you can have the rear seats removed entirely, but if you need a load carrier, buy a load carrier.

@TheMacz69 Год назад

I always thought they should offer it with the seats removed and fit some sort of a luggage carrying space

@idanceforpennies281 Год назад

@@TheMacz69 I think that's what happens. You get a liner, rubber floor mats with luggage straps and a cargo net in lieu of the deleted rear seats. I actually have not personally seen this, but I think I saw it as an option.

@baronvonjo1929 Год назад

Porsche is now more of a crossover of brand these days. It's what keeps the lights on and probably what most young kids will think when they hear Porsche as time goes on as it's the only thing most ever see. I really like the Panermara. Totally spelled that wrong.

@ianedmonds9191 Год назад

That 989 looked much better than the Panamera.

@cookc327 Год назад

I really appreciate all the research that goes into these - and on a marque I really enjoy, it's a great video! I still wonder how the world would have changed had that Studebaker project actually gone just a little further

@bjoernaltmann Год назад

Very interesting! I remember that when the first 4-door Porsche came out, it seemed like blasphemy. A good solution to not make it look like a stretched 911, but a thing of its own.

@elmafias6141 Год назад

Porsche 4-door existed until the 21st century. They were just called Tatra.

@aleksatodorovic9506 Год назад

Oh 989 is the coolest panamera that never was

@StephanBuchin Год назад

Extremely well done and informative video running at just the right pace 🙂

@weofnjieofing Год назад

Its called the Volkswagen parts bin. VW are notorious for platform sharing and they did it here with Porsche. Tiguan/Macan and Taureg/Cayenne

@Bod8998 Год назад

Excellent as usual

@jamesdellaneve9005 Год назад

It’s impossible to use large scale manufacturing techniques for smaller production runs. That’s what always gets them. GM was smart in making Corvette a separate division to allow them to think differently than the core engineering and manufacturing guys. Porsche has struggled since their inception. Hopefully, they will continue to survive from their larger benefactors. They are great cars indeed.

@Rypsolisti Год назад

Correction! That Lincoln Capri at 1:13 is actually a 1957 Lincoln, not '55 model. :)

@BigCar2 Год назад

Thanks - I've pinned a correction.

@gulfstream7235 Год назад

Being a miserable old fart I do appreciate the work you put into these videos for my brief stint of enjoyment...

@danvandal4127 Год назад

It's nice to find out about the other Porsches. Thank you!

@jovar.3649 Год назад

The 1st gen Panamera is still ugly as sin because one man at 6"1 had to fit in the back seats. Why couldn't he have been 5"6? Also, I think if there was a 1st gen Sport Turismo, the Panamera would have been far better received.

@frederickvondinkerberg7721 Год назад

Beauty is subjective and I have always liked the Panamera... nothing wrong with the looks

@wasdwasdwwasd Год назад

@@frederickvondinkerberg7721 Beauty may be subjective but good design is not.

@jovar.3649 Год назад

@@wasdwasdwwasd A-Frickin Men

@michaelopere5424 Год назад

Jova R Matthias Muller made the right decision to make the Porsche wide and long,because the average German is usually tall and huge.

@frederickvondinkerberg7721 Год назад

@@wasdwasdwwasd yes that is also subjective, you don't seem to understand what that means

@williammurphy3766 Год назад

Great to see images from the Porsche museum in Stuttgart. This stylish building (easily accessed via the city's S-Bahn system) contains the wackiest Porsche of all time - a hybrid from 1904. The idea was sound, but the technology would not catch up with the theoretical concept for another 80 years.

@groundedgaming Год назад

The 989 looked so much better than the 2009 Panamera! Should have just kept the shape. Anyways, I’m very interested in the Lotus Type 125/Exos story. A F1 track day car would have been so cool. Too bad it was a failure. Can you do a story on it?

@chaoringmeister Год назад

Don’t know many people in their 20s buying Porsches….

@stuartleckie Год назад

You know how folks have bucket list stuff, but it’s usually about going places; well, for me it’s own a 928. Love how they look. I think spurred on by having a Matchbox model of one when I was really young. Gorgeous looking thing. Not so sure about that -4 version though. Wonderful video Andy, tons of facts and stats in it, which I really appreciate!

@bradevans7935 Год назад

I know how you feel about 928's. Almost bought a really clean early one about 10-12 years ago, but decided against it at the time, then got to watch local prices for them double almost overnight.

@pyrexmaniac Год назад

I, too, loved the 928 and collected Matchbox cars.....I had fifteen different variations of the Matchbox 928....the metallic cocoa color was perfect, if not exactly sporty. In real life, I loved the funky "op art" interior fabric of the 928. Sadly, the funky fabric was not entirely durable, the light-colored segments of the design practically disintegrating is heat and sunlight.

@stuartleckie Год назад

@@pyrexmaniac gosh, I remember that colour of Matchbox 928 all too well. Exactly as you said, not sporty, kinda classy though. might need to have a look through my old Matchbox cars again, see what I still have 🙂

@sukhdevr3489 Год назад

@@stuartleckie Which matchbox cars do you have? My favourite die casts are the Skyline, Eclipse, 68 Mustang and gold 350z. Most hot wheels.

@marcusbingham1625 Год назад

Great stuff, always like your vids and info given

@Bod8998 Год назад

928 estate is hideous

@romulus_ Год назад

the ferrari 330 gt shooting brake looked a lot better.

@pgtmr2713 Год назад

The 550 Shooting Brake looked fantastic! As well as the FF and GT4C Lusso.

@BITTYBOY121 Год назад

Great story - Thanks for posting as always - Very informative video !

@GrotrianSeiler Год назад

Excellent history lesson. Thanks

@manofthehour6856 Год назад

As always, these videos are hugely informative, entertaining, and reliably-well researched. I was not aware of a Studebaker/Porsche association early on, and I am quite surprised that the model was given a "no go" for looking "outdated". And of all people, I am surprised that it was John Delorean who was behind the decision only because he was an engineer. That being said, his talent was renowned for the magic that he brought to Pontiac, so if he was instrumental in canceling the project, it was likely for good reason. Not a Porsche fan myself, although some of these four door versions look pretty attractive, especially the silver car in the static introductory photo. The 911 variations remind me of the Panhard Dyna.

@arianwinanto6299 Год назад

The irony was, Porsche was commissioned by Mercedes to engineer and assemble their W124 500E 4 door and 2 door variants during their crisis years and underutilised factory. So it technically can be called Porsche's first 4 door. At least with the cash they received and with the Boxster sales, it helped their development for the Cayenne

@panaceiasuberes6464 Год назад

Amazing content, as always.

@randolfo1265 Год назад

Thanks for this, Big Car. I learned a lot and saw some Porsche prototypes that I never knew existed. Porsche hoping to replace the 911 cars with a 928 line-up kind of reminds me of BMW coming with K100s and K75s, then the originals outlasting those.

@xx-dl6pk Год назад

It bugs me how manufacturers insist on 4/5 door versions of their small cars and claim it is for practicality. The doors end up so small they may as well be cat flaps.

@AllanteGrissom Год назад

Brilliant video, extremely informative. Keep up the great work! 👍

@alles_klar Год назад

I saw the four-door 928 at the Porsche museum in Stuttgart years ago and loved it, but I doubt it'd have achieved any kind of commercial success in the intended market.

@CaSuMog Год назад

Haven‘t seen the vid fully yet, but Jaguar had some issues with the E-Type 2+2 as well….and that was a 2 door 2+2. Not a 4 door.

@BOABModels Год назад

I really hated how the Cayenne and Panamera looked when they were released but clearly that's where the market has gone, especially regarding the Cayenne.

@ButterfatFarms 10 месяцев назад

Last week i delivered an order to a home in a gated community. There's a new Corvette in the driveway, a BMW SUV, and 3 Porsche Cayennes.

@DoubleDeckerAnton Год назад

It would have been an interesting addition.

@mattg8369 Год назад

Great topic and great video.

@nadeemchaudhry6585 Год назад

Another video, I didn't think I needed to watch, but was so wrong!! Thanks for the effort and excellent research.

@sq1rlsqu4d Год назад

Nice one, I wasn't aware of the 928-based cars. No mention of the Taycan though? Separate video maybe?

@BigCar2 Год назад

Maybe in the future, but it's a bit new for my channel.

@TheyCallMePDub Год назад

Fascinating subject and superb video! Excellent presentation and quality 👍

@aluminati9918 Год назад

As always, you are well researched, interesting and presentation is spot on. (I always liked the Panamera BTW..😅)

@klasseact6663 Год назад

Another very interesting video, thank you very much!

@natswii Год назад

Very interesting video thanks

@klutchcustoms2428 Год назад

Tatra did a four seater 911 before the 911 existed! That said, the 989 is like a Mandela effect MK1 Panamera. I could easily be convinced Porsche launched it beside the boxter if I wasn't paying attention!

@andrewdubose9968 Год назад

Conversely, I’m surprised they haven’t used the Panamera as the starting point for a new 928.

@MrSheymie Год назад

Excellent, very informative and interesting video. Proximity to camera is better in previous videos IMHO.

@BigCar2 Год назад

New camera. I'm trying a (slightly) different style.

@phantomguard71 Год назад

Not mentioned in the Video: In the late 60's, there was a successful one-off 4 door 911, known as the Troutman-Barnes Porsche, that was even tested by Road & Track. Even that looked better than the Panamera 😆

@caeserromero3013 Год назад

Who wants to be doing 150mph with yours kids in the back? One small mishap and you've wiped out the entire family....

@vacuumnoise Год назад

Great video. Thank you

@goldpharaoh6976 Год назад

That 989 tho, looks sleek asf.

@georgewashington1106 Год назад

Well done, as usual. Would love to see a Lotus Elan story at some point

@BigCar2 Год назад

That would be a fun on to do. I've added it to the (very long) list.

@KRW628 Год назад

The problem with the Panamera (and the Macan) - no manual gearbox (only 146 first Gen Panameras had manauls). These are cars for dentists, not drivers.

@bavarianbrit1 Год назад

I was a studio engineer in the studio working on that project from clay up in 1990 then due to the Gulf war 1 the Americans Ford GM Chrysler were advertising "Don't buy German cars as they will not join us in this war" They could not join in as their post WW2 constitution would not allow them. This drove Porsche almost to the wall as they were selling 75% of the 911s into the US market, so I was laid off. I went back in 2000-2 working on the Cayenne instrument panel for the supplier Textron.

@shatbad2960 Год назад

Porsche is a two door sports car company at its heart and always should be. This mass market move to SUV's and ugly saloons is disappointing.

@sage11x Год назад

Everyone says the panamera is ugly. I think it’s wonderful.

@pouyazadutube Год назад

I really enjoy your videos. Still waiting for your Hillman Hunter story! 😅

@StrangerYann Год назад

swanky new intros man what made you adopt those? this is your second video I see with one of 'em I'm curious but I like what I see keep it up, man 🙂

@BigCar2 Год назад

I've been doing something similar since the Triumph Stag video in 2019. I got the idea from an RMC video.

@masterchinese28 Месяц назад

I remember reading about the 989 in car magazines. I was looking forward to seeing one. Alas, it was not to be. Ahead of its time.

@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 Год назад

Good video, thank you. One remark on the 928. The car was very good. It were the clients who wanted to stay with the 911. I never understood why, after all the 911 is a fundamentally flawed design (as LJK Setright commented many decades ago) with its engine behind the back axle!

@davidpeters6536 Год назад

I am of the same opinion as Clarkson on Porsche. Another great video, but I'd really like to see you do one on VAG.

@jussiketels151 Год назад

There was also in the 90‘s a 928 Station, produced by Arzt, what would help Porsche out of the mess, but they probably not interested, some where sold as a aftermarket rebuild and they have been really nice..😊

@jayartz8562 Год назад

I think you got the spelling wrong.

@jussiketels151 Год назад

Might be???

@cheharrison7107 Год назад

Great video, love the behind the scenes/development vehicle stuff. Would it of been to much of a risk to design a different body shape rather than just trying to elongate the 911? None of the designs seemed to have the correct proportions.

@rusty911s2 Год назад

Surprising how that Gen1 Pan has mellowed to being merely ungainly rather than outright putrid. I wonder how much these are now? (Reaches for Autotrader... ).

@kitko33 Год назад

Actually, there was a 4-door Porsche in the 1990s. It was called Mazda 323F Lantis. See, Mazda was designed by Arnold Ostle, who joined the Japanese car maker from Porsche where he worked on.... a 4-door Porsche :) Top line Lantis sported 170hp 2-liter V6 and was one od the best driver's cars of the era. It was the first proper 4-door coupe.

@BrownSofaGamer Год назад

Other than the man having previously working for Porsche the 323F Lantis has literally nothing to make it a 4-door Porsche.

@kitko33 Год назад

@@BrownSofaGamer Technically, of course not. Concept wise, absolutely. The guy, seeing the his concept will not be realized at Porsche, had more luck at Mazda. Not to mention the fact that 323F was one of the best driver's car in its era.

@ButterfatFarms 10 месяцев назад

That's not how it works.

@joshuafrahm8778 Год назад

I love my Panamera, its a first gen, and I understand some of the criticism, but I think as long as the spoiler is up it looks good.

@anthonyperkins7556 Год назад

I like the 4 door Porsche Panamera Sportwagon turbo diesel as it was roomy for 4 adults if you specified the four individual seat option, and just about takes 5 adults at a pinch with the standard 60/40 split foldable bench seat. It was quite practical and economical over the fuel thirsty petrols.

@rickintexas1584 Год назад

I learned a lot watching this video. I drive a 2011 Panamera S. It is a great car.

@everpuremusic Год назад

Porsche and four doors in one sentence will never compute for me. ;)

@Ballterra Год назад

I don’t know a lot about Porches but in recent years I have found myself looking at the Cayenne and Panamera and liking them. It must of been a brave soul to sign off on both those models.🤞🤞🤞

@jamesbowen2105 Год назад

Ferdinand Piech, Grandson and Their to Ferdinand Porsche. the rebirthed VW Audi Porsche group were his Late life achievement.

@jlcii Год назад

The 989 was a beautiful car, and yes, they should have built it. With that being said, I find it funny that car Enthusiast automatically think that people who buy SUVs are parents who want room for their children, when a good amount of Porsche SUV sales are actually childless individuals who simply want more room and practicality than what a 911 can offer. A lot of single and childless adults prefer an SUV over the sports car, that's not exactly a secret. But I guess the archaic way of thinking is that if you don't have kids, and in particular if you're single, you're supposed to want the most impractical vehicle you can get your hands on to symbolize your freedom.

@davidhinkson8856 Год назад

I had no idea Porsche had tried to make bigger cars for so long. I remember seeing the 989 concept in am issue of Car magazine in the early 1990s and seeing it now, it was a forerunner of the BMW Gran Coupes and the Mercedes CLS. But maybe the market wasn't ready for that yet. I also remember around the time the Cayenne came out, one of the car magazines said a focus group Porsche held discovered that most Porsche owners in the US had a Ford Explorer as their second car. No surprise that the Cayenne and the other SUVs they make now do so well and to some degree I see aspects of the 989 design in the Panamera, although I guess current safety regulations might have influenced that so it's not as pretty.

@robertward8794 Год назад

In the late 60's or early 70's an issue of Road & Track featured a 4 door Porsche on the front cover. The car was a one off made by someone in the US as I recall.

@Baerchenization Год назад

German Auto Motor Sport wrote at the tim that the rear engine 8 cylinder car did not make it due to lack of refinement, but rather they wanted it to be air cooled and could not resolve the cooling issues.

@ChuckJ1944 Год назад

Why did you leave out the best one; the Taycan? What a car!

@kcspeed9980 Год назад

You could criticize Porsche now for what they did/how they did it. But the fact remains they are still around making some of the best sports cars on the planet while being more profitable then ever before.

@ravisriram6746 Год назад

These were actually pretty nice!

@Vyker Год назад

Shame to see the omission of the RS2. Another attempt they put to making a family car.

@Maruwasa Год назад

As an advertising and marketing man - it simple really, the Porsche brand was so associated with two doors as well as the broader sports car category that four doors seem to indicate to people, it is not a sports car nor as focused a driver's car. Plus people may also have preferred to enjoy the act of sport driving alone or just with a partner they choose. But as the world has evolved, the advent of GTIs (Which originally had 2 doors as well) to the present 4 doors and all the 4 door AMG monsters scaring mere automobiles with its grunt has changed that. Now a 4 door Porsche especially in the beloved SUV format is now as normal as drinking sparkling water. The trick is design the car with four doors from the start not design a two door and add doors to it.

@watchfan6180 Год назад

Great video, upvite

@NFSBeast2365 Год назад

I love Porsches. In particular I am a huge fan of the Panamera. I enjoy driving them in Need for Speed games.

@brunoheggli2888 Год назад

Porsche is pure love!

@harisdevedzic3167 Год назад

We had a 4 door Porsche, it was called Mercedes 500E, also a Porsche stationwagon, the Audi RS2 :) I like the 989, shame it wasn't put in to production