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The CONTROVERSIAL Max Verstappen and Lando Norris crash - DISCUSSED 💥🎙 | Sky Sports F1 Podcast 

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Crofty and Damon Hill discuss the controversial collision between McLaren's Lando Norris and Red Bull's Max Verstappen in a frantic finish to the Austrian Grand Prix, with Silverstone just around the corner.
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@gerardryan3692
@gerardryan3692 3 месяца назад
Im a mclaren fan and even i can see that this is just a witch hunt.
@rocket69218
@rocket69218 3 месяца назад
It's weird, I've been a McLaren fan for almost 30 years and I thought it was exciting, edge of sofa stuff ... I was disappointed obviously that we lost so many points... but that's racing, things happen like this. I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal out of it. F1 fans (and commentators) have got really insane lately.
@rocket69218
@rocket69218 3 месяца назад
although to be fair, the rules and penalties in place these days just don't work.
@gerardryan3692
@gerardryan3692 3 месяца назад
@@rocket69218 i think the penalties are fine for the most part. Racing is always a bit unfair, especially in f1. What i want to see is exciting racing and unpredictable results. I also am enjoying the tension for this weekend.
@iancooper7772
@iancooper7772 3 месяца назад
im a max fan, and even i can see that max tried to take lando wide, and it went wrong
@rocket69218
@rocket69218 3 месяца назад
@@gerardryan3692 Exactly!
@klx-y
@klx-y 3 месяца назад
Damon hill saying Max is a bit rude on the radio. what about tsunoda Kevin Magnussen lewis hamilton Leclerc all of them are rude as hell on the radio
@BrandoN-ie1np
@BrandoN-ie1np 3 месяца назад
Meanwhile Lando called his engineer "blind" just moment ago but he is British so Bwoah 🎉
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
There's not a single race where Max doesnt call other drivers derogatory names. Was probably referring to that.
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm 3 месяца назад
What about "angel" LANDO 😇
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 2 месяца назад
Simple answer he still and will have PTSD from AD21 the same as australian GP 94 and Max and Schumacher will always live rent free inside his head forever
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 2 месяца назад
Of course because the british and some people these sameone is brutally honest speak his mind they offended by it 😂😂😂
@obez42
@obez42 3 месяца назад
Interesting that David Croft is questioning whether the 10 second penalty is sufficient seeing as Lando retired and scored no points whilst Max finished 5th and scored a few points…. Interesting that same David Croft was too busy celebrating Lewis’ win at Silverstone in 2021 when Lewis punted Max into the tyre barrier at 51g, only got same 10 second penalty and went on to win the race…👀 Croft did not complain then…🙂
@jacobfletcher3682
@jacobfletcher3682 3 месяца назад
@@obez42 max is in the wrong. Max has a ruthless reputation. When he’s under a little bit of pressure he buckles. Don’t start bringing your past pretences as I have a loads to come back on! Max was lucky he didn’t get a grid penalty too or disqualification
@tonyyoto8820
@tonyyoto8820 3 месяца назад
British approach
@OldmanNix
@OldmanNix 3 месяца назад
​@@jacobfletcher3682look at you. All up in arms. A diligent little soldier aren't you. Well done.
@atomic-bluedevil8683
@atomic-bluedevil8683 3 месяца назад
Regulations towards driving standards have changed drastically since 21, also gotta take into consideration max in Austria was multiple offences that would eventually end in contact, lewis in 21 was a single offence with understeer but was definitely his fault (this is coming from a person who isn't a fan of both of them)
@dane4265
@dane4265 3 месяца назад
you mean when Lewis decided he wasn't going to be forced off the track by Max's aggressive driving, Max caused the accident with his own recklessness expecting everyone to move out his way. This obvious from all the incidents that Max has been involved in.
@hayam7562
@hayam7562 3 месяца назад
Feels like they were waiting the last 3 years for max to commit a mistake to tarnish his whole career.
@TheCrumb74
@TheCrumb74 3 месяца назад
Oh yes, they are loving this. Poor Lando the plucky brit victim. 🙄
@hayam7562
@hayam7562 3 месяца назад
Still love both Lando and Max. Excited for more battles to come from them through the season!
@kiki-ig8fq
@kiki-ig8fq 3 месяца назад
first time since 21 max has been put under any pressure
@Astronurd
@Astronurd 3 месяца назад
Max has already done this to his dirty driver rep.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 3 месяца назад
@@kiki-ig8fq Demonstrably not true. Ferrari were right with Red Bull on pace at the beginning of 2022. And there have been quite a few races where Verstappen's setup was wrong, or grid penalties, or SC mixed things up in 2023 and 2024.
@sharhan964
@sharhan964 3 месяца назад
Man this reeks of anti max bias, now they will dictate how Max communicates with GP
@ActionFigure10
@ActionFigure10 3 месяца назад
Sky being called out for their bias in their own comment section is simply lovely😘
@cameron03100
@cameron03100 3 месяца назад
@@ActionFigure10 I just lovely!
@cameron03100
@cameron03100 3 месяца назад
It’s just lovely
@iancooper7772
@iancooper7772 3 месяца назад
sky in english channel supporting english driver shocker, now go do dutch tv
@tinkertable1977
@tinkertable1977 3 месяца назад
Or they could be just sharing their own opinions, which don’t happen to be shared by you?
@MaxskiSynths
@MaxskiSynths 3 месяца назад
Every single country on earth is biased towards their own sportsmen. I know, it's a shocker. Only English people aren't allowed be though apparently because ironically, everyone is biased against them..
@MarangMatlala
@MarangMatlala 3 месяца назад
You guys have done such significant damage to the sport and contributed to all the toxicity.
@outlawf1272
@outlawf1272 3 месяца назад
A big fact. 💯
@mrp9241
@mrp9241 3 месяца назад
Comment of the year.
@TheCrumb74
@TheCrumb74 3 месяца назад
Pin this comment.
@martinj2843
@martinj2843 3 месяца назад
In your bias opinion 😂
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
I can't believe Max's competitors don't drive off the track so Max can break the rules. Just selfish.
@GMan-fz5gs
@GMan-fz5gs 3 месяца назад
As a Crofty fan, and sky fan, I find this narrative disgusting. You need to get into your head that the great drivers DO NOT YIELD! Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton all the same.
@101wildgoose
@101wildgoose 3 месяца назад
There's rules for a reason. It's about safety NOT yielding. Drivers need to have trust in what the other guy is doing so they don't crash.
@Red5_
@Red5_ 3 месяца назад
Lewis is a very clean racer Max is dirty and he’s revealing himself again.
@arglebargle5531
@arglebargle5531 3 месяца назад
@@GMan-fz5gs no, not Hamilton
@iancooper7772
@iancooper7772 3 месяца назад
as a heemskerk and viaplay fan, im very surprised by this response, and can not agree
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
Schumacher drove into his competitor on purpose and got disqualified as a result. No, the “do not yield” doesnt excuse dangerous driving, and it also robs us of a battle. There were several laps of battle left, but Verstappen had to keep swerving around under breaking like a rookie and put stop to that.
@zelig1799
@zelig1799 3 месяца назад
Amazing, they are calling for Max to get a grid drop penalty for the next race. Something they haven't even done for cases such as silverstone 21. This is wild.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
As the face of F1, max should learn how to race cleanly. Maybe if they make an example, rather than enabling a dangerous driver like in 21, then max might learn to respect his competition.
@Red5_
@Red5_ 3 месяца назад
Max is a repeat offender his punishments are obviously not enough to stop his reckless behaviour.
@Red5_
@Red5_ 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100Max is the FIA love child they won’t punish him they showed that in 2021 they repeatedly let him get away with murder and handed him a world championship. Max is like Schumacher a fantastic driver but isn’t an honest driver and willing to cheat to achieve victory.
@jamesantill5065
@jamesantill5065 3 месяца назад
You punish for the event, not the result. How hard is this to understand???
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@jamesantill5065 and how many "events" (or to the rest of us, repeated behavior of outlawed driving standards), before a harder line gets drawn? Or should they just keep repeating punishments which clearly dont deter max from his default setting of "you move or we crash"..... *cough cough* sorry i meant "hard racing". They literally changed the rules to stop max doing this likehe spent 8 years doing, yet as soon as he gets challenged wheel to wheel he's back doing it? Did that help or do i need to point out any more obvious things?
@kiwiciwi123
@kiwiciwi123 3 месяца назад
I literally hope max keeps not caring about you guys opinions like I do . What a load of crap .
@Astronurd
@Astronurd 3 месяца назад
Oh he'll bother alright 😂.
@kiwiciwi123
@kiwiciwi123 3 месяца назад
@@Astronurd probably not even noticeable to him xd
@paulgaya5099
@paulgaya5099 3 месяца назад
Until it ends in tragedy.....be careful what you wish for
@AUmarcus
@AUmarcus 3 месяца назад
Until the boot is on the other foot and he ends up with a DNF. You'll be insufferable then.
@kiwiciwi123
@kiwiciwi123 3 месяца назад
Ah you Guys didn’t have to be so kind , after you sir. This ain’t the powerpuff girls we’re watching .
@richardclark1372
@richardclark1372 3 месяца назад
"A big protective ring around Max". I think you should watch this back and listen to the big protective ring you're putting around Lando, he isn't innocent either, Max had to take avoiding action plenty of times prior to this incident and not only in this race. Stop the Bias, this is why no one can take Sky Sports seriously anymore.
@IanIredale
@IanIredale 3 месяца назад
Sky rubbish as always. The Peter Windsor take on it is much more impartial.
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
Only impartial because it fits your own confirmation bias.
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
Haha 1 person thinks Max did nothing wrong and suddenly he's 'impartial'. What nonsense.
@IanIredale
@IanIredale 3 месяца назад
​@@billB101And obviously doesn't fit with your confirmation bias.
@virtualwanderer
@virtualwanderer 3 месяца назад
Agreed. Every driver squeezes the car behind in an overtake situation, lando could have avoided it but he didn't.
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
@@IanIredale I actually watched the race.
@firulaybimbinisio
@firulaybimbinisio 3 месяца назад
There is not damage for Max reputation. Look at Senna now. The man still a god.. and he did things even worse that what happened in Austria. Damon is talking with his British eyes. Even Lewis did things like Max did and none British talking about that.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
No, Lewis did not react with aggression to everything like Max has always done. The two are not remotely similar. In the first few years of Lewis's career he held his own from the first race against a multiple world champion in equal machinery. By contrast Max was bumping into other cars and crashing out in over 50% of races - recall the crashstappeb era, before other drivers just started diving out of his way for self preservation. Not, remotely, at the same level.
@martinlaver007
@martinlaver007 3 месяца назад
The difference of course is that Senna was a likeable person.
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm 3 месяца назад
British eyes 🤓😳👀 Lovit 🤣🤣🤣 So true FUNNY BUNNY
@paulsilas6037
@paulsilas6037 3 месяца назад
David Croft: 10 sec not enough Silverstone 2021: It is enough
@hellodavey1902
@hellodavey1902 3 месяца назад
Just made the same comment 😂
@rossa360
@rossa360 3 месяца назад
Exactly what I was about to say! 10 sec penalty max goes to hospital and lewis wins! Sky is so biast towards the British drivers no point listening to them
@LouSassol69er
@LouSassol69er 3 месяца назад
British bias at its most obvious and finest
@max1milly
@max1milly 3 месяца назад
@@rossa360It was a mandatory hospital visit. He was fine. Now Monza on the other hand - if the Halo didn’t exist, Max would’ve snapped Lewis’ neck in his move of desperation.
@rossa360
@rossa360 3 месяца назад
@@max1milly not getting the point though 10 sec penalty max retires lewis wins! Moaning that maxs penalty at austria isn't enough is just bs
@SafakYokolma
@SafakYokolma 3 месяца назад
These men call themselves journalists/broadcasters/experts….they are just British biased!
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@SafakYokolma where is your same offence at the dutch media being biased in favour of max?
@SafakYokolma
@SafakYokolma 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 they are not. Did you watch it? I guess not
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@SafakYokolma 😂 good joke.
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 2 месяца назад
Turkish people know absolutely nothing about racing.
@joelbeukes
@joelbeukes 3 месяца назад
Oh boy this reeks of bias...lets bash Verstappen and Gianpiero Lambiase . When a British driver races hard: Let them race!
@allanokeeffe9499
@allanokeeffe9499 3 месяца назад
Gianpiero Lambiase is British, Red Bull is a British based team with a British team principal. This is not about Britain against anyone else but about dangerous driving.
@dancri4694
@dancri4694 3 месяца назад
..this is bias...you should listen to the Brit-based podcasts...the last two races (not including Australia) have been everything about 'why Lando lost the race' and not about the race and all the other drivers on the grid....they may as well have a Shrine with a Lando statue in their rooms
@sammoore3687
@sammoore3687 3 месяца назад
@@allanokeeffe9499they’re literally Austrian but ok????
@JXLY7
@JXLY7 3 месяца назад
Damon deleting his initial tweets about the incident…funny that
@dancri4694
@dancri4694 3 месяца назад
...glad someone else spotted that 😅
@jeremysimpson-b1y
@jeremysimpson-b1y 3 месяца назад
I turned it off after 1min when crofty says "everyone is entitled to their opinion"... Thats rich coming from sky sports 😅
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
Honestly all of them, especially after Will Buxton laughed in Alex Brundle's face on air for having a different opinion
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm
@MonikavanderWesthuizen-nw4jm 3 месяца назад
Two friends, talking the same language 🤓 "To be fair" 🤣🤡😂🤡🤣
@GinnXXV
@GinnXXV 3 месяца назад
of course it’s Damon Hill who brings up Abu Dhabi 2021.
@enriqueorganis
@enriqueorganis 3 месяца назад
Yeah, and he keeps forgetting Great Britain 2021. They said Max deserved more than a 10 second penalty for "causing a collision" but I never heard them asking for a harsher penalty when Hamilton sent Max to the Hospital.
@GinnXXV
@GinnXXV 3 месяца назад
@@enriqueorganis exactly
@enriqueorganis
@enriqueorganis 3 месяца назад
@@GinnXXV well, I guess that's the well known "British bias".
@killah123456
@killah123456 3 месяца назад
That's never going away 💀
@user-td6yv6lr7p
@user-td6yv6lr7p 2 месяца назад
@@enriqueorganis Max sent Max you DTS😂
@audreyperrin320
@audreyperrin320 3 месяца назад
They wearnt saying a 10 second penalty wasn't enough for Lewis at Silverstone when Lewis nearly killed max
@Lindowman888
@Lindowman888 3 месяца назад
There was a lot of comments at the time about the sufficiency of Hamilton's penelty
@JeandreCK
@JeandreCK 3 месяца назад
This is completely British Biased.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
And the dutch media is completely biased in maxs favour. Who'd have thought?
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
It's a British channel lol.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@billB101 shhhhhh, we must all worship the fraudulent one
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
A british tv channel?! Nooo way.
@rmk8254
@rmk8254 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100not true most pundits said max deserved a penalty…but they didn’t make a week full of analysis regarding the crash, after Sunday it was over
@peterdiepstraten5897
@peterdiepstraten5897 3 месяца назад
Crofty reads out the applicable rule. Then defines "irratic driving" as moving twice. Then accused Max to have moved twice.. which Max didn't do, in none of the occasions during the race. Max did move once in reaction to Lando, which is allowed (and basic racing imo). This is not Indycar. Note also that Lando would not have been penalised for track limits in the crash incident if he would have moved a bit more to the left. That would have prevented the damage to both cars and Lando would have passed Max easily when then switching to the inside line. Lando was entitled to a full cars width (hence the penalty for Max), but it wasn't smart racing. He would have had 5 seconds in hand and could have even stayed behind Max. Max did put Lando on the grass after the crash, which could be in retribution, but could also be caused by the damage on the rear left. Only Max knows. Oh, and one last thing... remember Silverstone 2021? Was St. Lewis the villan then?
@JeandreCK
@JeandreCK 3 месяца назад
Croft should go listen to his commentary during Silverstone 21, Brazil 21, Monza 21.... Where was this kind of blame then?
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
All of which were maxs fault. Mayne karma caught up huh?
@anthonyfrederick3214
@anthonyfrederick3214 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 Not Max's fault at all. Ham took a penalty and should have seen the black flag at Silverstone. Period.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@anthonyfrederick3214 "black flag" 🤣 Honestly you guys are so funny. Max should have had at least 10 black flags in his career but he didnt. Stop crying. Max should have gotten a multiple race ban for monza, by your logic. Almost killed lewis
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
they are as responsible as fia for enabling
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 3 месяца назад
He was commentating a race then. Not doing the same thing now. Honestly, you expected him to have a 40min chat discussing who’s fault it was in the middle of a GP 😂
@mamavswild
@mamavswild 3 месяца назад
No No Way. I'm not touching this British cicle-gerk of a bias-fest against Max and praising Lando as a saint. No. Done with the british sensationalism.
@Astronurd
@Astronurd 3 месяца назад
BYE THEN 👋🎉
@bobjames5781
@bobjames5781 3 месяца назад
Why do all Max fans believe their messiah is never at fault?! You don’t hear the positives coming from an F1 champion? Go back to supporting football would be a wise choice!
@juggadaaku4219
@juggadaaku4219 3 месяца назад
@@bobjames5781was this his error: yep. Did Lando drive desperately, with mile long dive bombs and over the line: yep. It’s a racing incident where both drivers were spicy. Can’t clap with one hand. I’d put 60/40 blame for the incident on Max.
@mamavswild
@mamavswild 3 месяца назад
@@Astronurd oh happily!! But do you know what I will do with even MORE happiness? Drink to your tears when Max drinks them out of his victory cup after winning Silverstone!
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
So go read some Dutch news about this then.
@PeterPost-w8m
@PeterPost-w8m 3 месяца назад
Brits: Max is a criminal!! Non-Brits: What a race, the best of this year!
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
melodramatic much.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
So all non brits thought max wasnt dangerous? 🤣
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 It's all the fault of British bias seemingly. 🤣
@jondavies
@jondavies 3 месяца назад
im a brit and i didnt think it was a best race of year, literlaly it was al lstale mate, the only exciting part was the few laps where Lando kept doing dive bombs and then him and Max crashing. It might be the best race for drama of the year
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@billB101 its always british bias, we're all just really mean to max, his behavior has NOTHING to do with it. We must revere max the fraud like all his cultists do, otherwise its just bias mate. Just read a comment from a max fan calling someone juvenile because the word crashtappen was used. The max fan begain their complaint with "lulu fans are so juvenile using that name". They honestly cant see the irony.
@firozekotwal
@firozekotwal 3 месяца назад
Any chance we can get some analysis of Lando attitude behind the wheel? Like constantly complaining and hoping the steward will step in, rather than focus and drive ?
@eilidhml6323
@eilidhml6323 3 месяца назад
A STEWARD SHOULD HAVE STEPPED IN!
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
Also the ridiculous divebombs that would never work and smashing into Max after they had that slight rub.
@prestigioususe2713
@prestigioususe2713 3 месяца назад
@@eilidhml6323Yeah, to give Lando a track limits penalty
@eilidhml6323
@eilidhml6323 3 месяца назад
@@Selendeki LOLZ. THEN WHY DID HE GET A 10 SEC PENALTY?
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
Weird. Didn't you hear max doing the exact same thing, or is your memory selective?
@paulsilas6037
@paulsilas6037 3 месяца назад
20:21 to 20:25 is David Croft wishing the worst for Max. Pure evil.
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224 3 месяца назад
@@paulsilas6037 one of worst guys around. Shame that even in 2024 we have to listen to such biased idiots.
@matrix35
@matrix35 2 месяца назад
The guy is a tool!
@RoysIdea
@RoysIdea 3 месяца назад
It was reported that Johny Herbert was the driver stewart and apparently only wanted to make an example by penalizing Max. With the interpretation that there was no actual cause according to the regulations.
@simpelekaas
@simpelekaas 3 месяца назад
lando threw his own race away
@bevverwey6849
@bevverwey6849 3 месяца назад
So biased and ridiculous. Regulations are going to destroy any of the real racing in F1. David Croft obviously dislikes Max so very difficult for him to be fair.
@johanfeenstra8778
@johanfeenstra8778 3 месяца назад
I don`t think it is personal. It is a well known tactic from the Brits to attack every non British driver ask Alonso.
@matthewthompson1129
@matthewthompson1129 3 месяца назад
Yep, except actually in this case Max's overzealous defending actually spoils the potentiality of overtaking..which is what we all want
@101wildgoose
@101wildgoose 3 месяца назад
Are you kidding??? Go watch Crofty call AD2021 again. He's soooo biased towards Maxxy Pad.
@IslandTeacher2024
@IslandTeacher2024 3 месяца назад
They quickly moved past the track limits violations from Lando as well.
@ParallaxEffect
@ParallaxEffect 3 месяца назад
* non british driver consistently breaks rules, consistently isn't punished, wins because the FIA loves drama because it makes money * 'brits attack non british drivers' -- LOL.
@paulsilas6037
@paulsilas6037 3 месяца назад
Sky Sports = British
@Andybarney555
@Andybarney555 3 месяца назад
Well done.. it is yes.. gold medal to you
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos 3 месяца назад
And it would be the same if it was Leclerc, Sainz, Piastri.
@wibblywobbly99
@wibblywobbly99 3 месяца назад
Nope Sky Sports = American = Money
@Miloshhhhh
@Miloshhhhh 3 месяца назад
Yeah, and they are biased, but i don't think you will find anyone more objective, and above all they are very professional with approaching the issue.
@Quazi-Moto
@Quazi-Moto 3 месяца назад
@@Miloshhhhh 'Biased' and 'objective' are opposites. You can't be both.
@LilRy95
@LilRy95 3 месяца назад
I've never seen a sports commentator have as many agendas as David Croft, he's supposed to be impartial and just commentate on the action but instead he has to have an opinion on everything especially when it's Max
@paulbulk7044
@paulbulk7044 3 месяца назад
Lando ruined the bottom of his car by himself. He had to slow down to the Pitt .
@hellodavey1902
@hellodavey1902 3 месяца назад
Didn’t Lando push Max off track last race?
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
yep and unlike in Austria there was a *wall* on the other side of Max so he had significantly less room (and a significantly more dangerous move by Lando IMO) to take avoiding action and yet, still managed it.
@IAmKry
@IAmKry 3 месяца назад
@@rileyrolstone Don't forget it was on a bloody straight, not even a turn where there are lines being taken by necessity to an extent.
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
@@IAmKry one of my favorite moments was in the cooldown room where Max pointed it out to Lando by saying “you don’t think when we are alongside it slows us both down?” And Lando was having none of it. Like he may have said it nicely but I think Max was pointing out that Lando screwed himself over there (after all Max still won) And then in the press conference after Lando was asked if he gave enough space. He said something to the effect of “I didn’t have a tape measure but I feel like I did.” What was notable is that both max and Lewis looked at each other and just started laughing.
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
That plus Lando’s “amateur” (his words not mine) failure to block the inside line on Max in the Austrian sprint. I think Lando was/is desperate to prove himself and prove that Miami wasn’t luck or a one off
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 3 месяца назад
And Max pushed Lando on the grass in the straight after they crashed. Funny how you ignore that.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 3 месяца назад
If Norris had approached the outside like Verstappen did overtaking Sainz in 2023 (where Sainz was in a similar position, less than a car's width from the white line) then he could have made the cut back on a tighter line. But he didn't do that because he was frustrated that he'd failed to get the position while he had the tyre advantage. Norris also needed to abuse track limits to even get close enough to pass, so I don't have any sympathy for him. Sainz or Leclerc would have handled that situation better. I don't recall seeing any battles when Norris has shown he can race.
@alsayedfakhri4597
@alsayedfakhri4597 3 месяца назад
Max is a liability, as proven across his career. Rules were invented because of how dangerous he is. Throwing shade at Lando won't remove that tag.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 3 месяца назад
@@alsayedfakhri4597 All the best drivers exploited the rules. The reason he used to move under breaking was because of how underpowered the Red Bull was. He stopped doing it when they changed the wording of the rules. We've seen hard racing between Verstappen, Sainz and Leclerc without collisions. The collisions tend to involve Russell and apparently Norris, who make clumsy moves when they get frustrated. Verstappen is often on the limit of what's acceptable, but he places his car very deliberately and under control. Norris putting him on the dirt in Barcelona isn't the way he drives. You know full well if the positions were reversed these two would still claim Verstappen was at fault.
@alsayedfakhri4597
@alsayedfakhri4597 3 месяца назад
@@Ruylopez778 Max only races clean when his car is half a second per lap quicker. He's a liability.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 3 месяца назад
@@alsayedfakhri4597 We've seen plenty of battles from Verstappen in 22, 23 and 24 that didn't involve collisions. Russell and Norris being exceptions. I'd say Hamilton's had more collisions than Verstappen has in that time.
@alsayedfakhri4597
@alsayedfakhri4597 3 месяца назад
@@Ruylopez778 again, when he had a car half a second quicker per lap and DRS worth 3x every other car.
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu 3 месяца назад
Which one is worse 1) Lando forcing Max on to the grass or 2) Max forcing Lando on to the run off area?
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
Lando meatriders won't answer that lol
@aventusV33
@aventusV33 3 месяца назад
Norris sent Max onto the runoff in turn 3 in Austria as well. And went off himself in one of his moves. But that was just incredibly clean racing according to everyone.
@TheNorville2
@TheNorville2 3 месяца назад
What was worse was Max moving in the breaking zone, if you do not think that is dangerous, i will meet you on the track and show you what it is like.
@KrissNrgzer
@KrissNrgzer 3 месяца назад
Bravo 👏
@ayTesz
@ayTesz 3 месяца назад
@@aventusV33if max didnt move under braking for 10 straight laps lando probably wouldnt of started trying divebombs
@MarcosCodas
@MarcosCodas 3 месяца назад
I haven't heard it yet, but seeing Damon, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he thinks it's 100% Max's fault and 0% Lando's.
@dancri4694
@dancri4694 3 месяца назад
It's Damon....hard racing was never in his blood nor any driver that isn't British....specially after listening to him the past 20+ years, ironically he deleted his initial comment on social media...I'll guess someone told him to remove it before the backlash
@enthusiastlot9365
@enthusiastlot9365 3 месяца назад
Oh Lando Lando.. remember 2021 when you used to praise Max for throwing his car at Lewis? Feels a little different now don’t it? 🤷
@absolutentity
@absolutentity 3 месяца назад
Put L.Norris in Leclerc shoes and see him rage quit F1 😬
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
i agree this incident showed landos hypocrisy
@vvf1-sb2do
@vvf1-sb2do 3 месяца назад
I am sure LH said to Lando, remember when he -MV- was doing these things to me? Now is your turn!...😅
@captainsunshine64
@captainsunshine64 3 месяца назад
It's easier to compliment when you're not involved, plus now the rules are clear, and Max is breaking them
@mk89123
@mk89123 3 месяца назад
Oh yess, indeed
@PeterPost-w8m
@PeterPost-w8m 3 месяца назад
Max is like Senna and Schumacher: do or die. That attitude made them the goats of F1.
@allanokeeffe9499
@allanokeeffe9499 3 месяца назад
The GOAT of F1 is Jim Clark.
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
Didn't Schumacher get disqualified from the championship for this kind of thing. If the only way to win is to run a competitor off the track, hardly a GOAT
@saycero
@saycero 3 месяца назад
funny i remember schuey as a cheat.... like most ppl i know
@archielundy3131
@archielundy3131 3 месяца назад
@@sayceroAbsolutely. Forever tainted by his cheating against Damon Hill and his attempted cheating against Vileneuve.
@Andybarney555
@Andybarney555 3 месяца назад
Difference is they were good!. And didnt have sim racing and that mentality. He will kill someone or himself.. any luck
@jeroenbons637
@jeroenbons637 3 месяца назад
Hamilton got a ten seconds penalty at Silverstone for punting Max of the track while they where driving at breakneck speed. Max ended in the wall, his car was totally ruined, Ham served his penalty and drove on to win the race. Was the penalty severe or harsh enough????
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 2 месяца назад
That was Max’ fault
@jeroenbons637
@jeroenbons637 2 месяца назад
Oh I see, everything was and is and will be Max’s fault. If we continue on this track we end up accusing Max of starting the 2nd World War. In that light it is ironical that the German national anthem was played in triumph on an old airfield of the Battle of Britain.
@keenan170
@keenan170 3 месяца назад
Why is this being made into such a big deal? Racing incident. Move on.
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
If dangerous driving wasnt a big deal they wouldnt have written the rule in the first place, because of Verstappen ironically
@Snickers4211
@Snickers4211 3 месяца назад
Croft broadcasting from Ikea showroom.
@mclarenguy22
@mclarenguy22 3 месяца назад
They could at least have a green curtain with level camera or something.
@sz5876
@sz5876 3 месяца назад
I wish they'd replace him with James Allen who's knowledgeable and dignified. His broadcasts during the height of the Schumacher era were incredible.
@FOREVER._.
@FOREVER._. 3 месяца назад
Max doesn't deserve +10 he deserves -10 sec because it's lando Norris fault.
@jeanpaulceulemans9973
@jeanpaulceulemans9973 3 месяца назад
Crof and Krav are absolutely intolerable, Harry and Nico do a much better job
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 3 месяца назад
The bias is insane. Why are they now considering about Lando retirement being a factor to Max's penalty when they didn't do the same for Silverstone 2021? By crofty's logic Lewis should've been black flagged, especially at the insane speeds that it happened.
@peterhaslund
@peterhaslund 2 месяца назад
Bull. Max did that very same thing at Silverstone 21, changing course to avoid an overtake. How is that Lewis' fault???
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 2 месяца назад
Haha cry
@berndvideo
@berndvideo 3 месяца назад
Did you have a look at Peter Windsor take on the incident?
@benjaminmoore8623
@benjaminmoore8623 3 месяца назад
No, but you are right. That's probably more of a correct view. I just find his podcasts super boring. He needs and interviewer or moderator.
@johanfeenstra8778
@johanfeenstra8778 3 месяца назад
And Eddie Jordan.
@pranc236
@pranc236 3 месяца назад
I did and peter is very based on this one as he usually is.
@chriscollins550
@chriscollins550 3 месяца назад
Yes but Peter doesn't have all the information and data along with all the other camera evidence. Max got penalty points on he's race license, stop with the British Biased BS that every max/redbull fan says. Over half the f1 pundits are not British at all like Ted kravits. I'm European and most fan's I know have the same opinion about max and if you listen to other f1 channels for other countries they all say the same thing. British biased is a bigger joke than max racing skills wheel to wheel.
@HUMC5
@HUMC5 3 месяца назад
Peter Windsor has Red Bull bias.
@lukasz065
@lukasz065 3 месяца назад
first 20 minutes you guys are acting like Max pinned Norris to the wall and sent him to hospital
@livefast-xc8lm
@livefast-xc8lm 3 месяца назад
Nah, they’re just showing just a few instances where max has went overboard. There’s plenty of more examples😂 they were being generous.
@disapphire
@disapphire 3 месяца назад
@@lukasz065 shut up broke!
@disapphire
@disapphire 3 месяца назад
Shut up bloke!
@johanfeenstra8778
@johanfeenstra8778 3 месяца назад
it is getting more and more toxic with the british media.
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 2 месяца назад
​@@livefast-xc8lmnah they are hypocrite salty sore losers like some delusionals team LH Still crying since AD21 like you 😂😂😂😂
@Kessoku
@Kessoku 3 месяца назад
Lando could technically move to the kerb and still on the racetrack. there's still plenty of space on the left which is kerb, but it up to lando to move there.
@LookatBowen
@LookatBowen 3 месяца назад
Watch the Peter Windsor video, he got the whole spot on. My take on the whole thing. It was exciting racing. We need more of this and less interference from the stewards, and scrap the silly rules. Before the point of contact one thing was true: Lando was about to get a 5 second penalty for track limits, so he knew that, so why for the love of motor racing did he think putting his car up the side of Max was going to end well. At best Max would come over left and then turn right to take the racing line, thus squeezing Lando. Lando would have to take to the side of the track to avoid contact, thus going off track, thus getting another track limit penalty. Lando knew that, so decided to not move and CONTACT! That was always going to happen.
@JeandreCK
@JeandreCK 3 месяца назад
David Croft is the most biased commentator
@3y4g34g4gh
@3y4g34g4gh 3 месяца назад
So now that we know the exact inner workings of Max's brain, can we expect another podcast of the theme but for Lando instead? Love to hear how all his inadequacies will forever keep him from winning a championship. Wait. What am I thinking. This is SkyF1 we are talking about! Lando can do no wrong. A messy lunge right Damon? Not an incredibly desperate and poorly executed dive-bomb... over.. and over..?
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure divebombing over and over was maxs modus operandi for 8 years. Do you not see the irony when max and his fans get all upset about being on the recieving end. Its called "hard racing" remember?
@alexanderzwollo3825
@alexanderzwollo3825 3 месяца назад
Let's ignore all Lando's divebombs , completely missing the corner, lets not give him a visible 5 sec penalty for 4x track violations and especially let's not tell Max about it because we want this battle to heat up. Then ,let's talk about Max how dirty he is because he made one wrong move the last few years because we are still sore from AD21, how he should be stopped and harshly penalized while we see other drivers race in and race out do much harsher things to even their team mates (Ocon Gasly, Sainz to pretty much anyone, Checo, Kmag etc the list goes on). This is a British Witchhunt against Verstappen because they simply dont like him and his father.
@robb5270
@robb5270 3 месяца назад
Is Damon hill literally blind now? Lando didn’t have ONE tyre on the side! Not one! So what you mean if he moves over he gets track limits!?!?!? DAMON YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL FOUR WHEELS OVER THE LINE BUDDY!!!! This shows how dumb these people are
@empierce8337
@empierce8337 3 месяца назад
Unlike some, some of us in this world certainly don't like or excuse wife beating, violent thugs, abusive criminals and cheats.....now prove a single one of those statements about Jos a wrong!! He will never be welcomed or supported by anyone with an ounce of integrity!
@ludoroessen9570
@ludoroessen9570 3 месяца назад
Seriously starting to think canceling my Sky subscription....they hated him from the beginning...he's a-political...doesn't get involved in woke divisive stuff or hangs out with celebs or so called good causes.... he does his own thing and don't care what people say...kudos to him!
@paulsilas6037
@paulsilas6037 3 месяца назад
Imagine Senna worried about reputation 😅
@Pibikhen
@Pibikhen 3 месяца назад
Had he not "ended his career" the way he did, he probably wouldn't even be spoken about today nearly as much and have the reputation he does. Prost was the superior driver of that era (out scored Senna in both of their two seasons in the same car) but because he wasn't as much of a risk taker and survived, nobody really talks about him. Had things been different, I really do believe Senna would just be "another great", perhaps similar to an Alonso or a Vettel. Unpopular opinion, I'm sure but just the reality of how our opinions can be warped by external events.
@ryche.rising
@ryche.rising 3 месяца назад
@@Pibikhen here, take your medication, go back to bed.
@Pibikhen
@Pibikhen 3 месяца назад
@@ryche.rising Great input. Phenomenal contribution. Thanks for sharing. Do better.
@Buccaneer1968
@Buccaneer1968 3 месяца назад
Some British pundits are a bit of joke. Max taught Lando a valuable lesson. Welcome to hard racing.
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
Break the rules racing? Max should try a different formula.
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
If it was just hard racing then they wouldnt have needed to write the rule in the first place, because of Verstappen, ironically
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 3 месяца назад
Russell taught Max an important lesson. Don’t crash into drivers and you can win a race even in a much slower car.
@Buccaneer1968
@Buccaneer1968 3 месяца назад
@@paperplane-db8qf Russel isn’t a threat to Max. Max extended his championship lead. I guess you’re new to F1
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 2 месяца назад
@@Buccaneer1968 Silverstone 21 was a welcome to racing message for crashtappen
@juggadaaku4219
@juggadaaku4219 3 месяца назад
The best part ends at 0:00. It’s funny no one mentions the 4 laps it took FIA for a slam dunk track limits 5 sec penalty to Lando. And how everyone is treating as he was driving all good and dandy.
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
Going slightly over the line a few times, which Verstappen and others did too, is not the same as deliberately swerving around under breaking, which only Verstappen does. The rule was literally written in response to Verstappen pulling this stunt too often.
@Missenden
@Missenden 3 месяца назад
Max is a hard driver, brilliant defence and aggressive overtaking. Simple as that, we need more drivers like him.
@thomaspeacock8583
@thomaspeacock8583 3 месяца назад
Max is not that he is a dangerous man and should be kicked out the sport max will seriously injury someone soon
@outlawf1272
@outlawf1272 3 месяца назад
Fact, it's Maxterclass 🇳🇱 Simply Lovely🧡
@LeeHadley
@LeeHadley 3 месяца назад
But when other racers do the same to him, he’s first to moan.
@Missenden
@Missenden 3 месяца назад
@@LeeHadley like Lewis, like Russell & so on. It gets to everyone when they miss that gap
@Kraken270Jetsprint
@Kraken270Jetsprint 3 месяца назад
So with your logic Damon Sir Lewis should have got more than a 10 second penalty for putting max of at silverstone
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu 3 месяца назад
If Max left a cars width there would have been no accident, Lewis had no room on his side. duh!
@marco_neil
@marco_neil 3 месяца назад
​@DavidJohnson-dc8lu watch again Lewis completely missed the apex in '21. Did have space. Plenty.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
@@DavidJohnson-dc8lu Have you tried watching the incident with your eyes open? Lewis had loads of space.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
No no no, you see he's uh... errrr, he's uh... hmmmm you see he's... well you know he's... British. No I mean innocent, nothing to do with nationality here at all, nope, not one bit.
@Josedinho_-
@Josedinho_- 3 месяца назад
​@marco_neil never completely missed the apex, was less than a car width from the apex, in racing it should be allowed, hownmany times in F1 have we seen drivers take a late apex to compromise their opponents?
@stanliberty4551
@stanliberty4551 3 месяца назад
All these Max fan boys and girls in these comment section crying lol ur beloved driver is just terrible at racing wheel to wheel and would run someone off the track before letting them pass him💯
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
max got all those titles thanks to their crying. so they keep at it.
@michaelrijsmus462
@michaelrijsmus462 3 месяца назад
I recon SKY SPORT F1 should be out of F1. You guys are always going to be British lovers. Any driver who is a non Brit docent stand a chance.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
watch another channel then sweetcheeks, like a dutch one which wont dare to criticise the fraud.
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224 3 месяца назад
agree brother. They just can't get over the fact that MAX is the bloody best and they can't do a thing about it.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@rakeshbhartipangotra8224 he needs 4 more titles, 50 odd wins and around 150 podiums to even get a sniff at being "the best".
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224
@rakeshbhartipangotra8224 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 I meant the best in the current era. Can't compare drivers from different times.
@Astronurd
@Astronurd 3 месяца назад
😭😭😭😭
@Karinalgc
@Karinalgc 3 месяца назад
You say that Norris has been aggressive and a little dangerous is a result of the spring, but Max didn't do anything dirty or terrible agresive in the spring. For me, it is the inexperience of Norris
@wibblywobbly99
@wibblywobbly99 3 месяца назад
Thing is as professional commentators they should know the rules, a 12 year old kid would know this, sloppy journalism at it's best.
@JohnvanZandt-k1x
@JohnvanZandt-k1x 3 месяца назад
Complete British bias. They keep saying Max moved under breaking. But the rule is no dangerous driving. And Max's VERY minimal change in direction hardly amounts to 'danger'. Also this biased comment about that Max left no car-width. In Spain Norris left Max no car-width at the start. But Max avoided a collision by putting a wheel on the grass. Lando should simply have done the same. Time to add some non-British commentators to balance it out.
@ayTesz
@ayTesz 3 месяца назад
moving under braking and taking out two cars isn’t dangerous? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@RussH-xk7zp
@RussH-xk7zp 3 месяца назад
Jesus you're clueless and if you watch footage from behind, then your comical description adds up to a cars width, not slightly. You're out of your depth here junior
@robqsig6737
@robqsig6737 3 месяца назад
Remember LH getting a 10 sec penalty at Silverstone, Max in the hospital Lewis running around with a flag and getting the win……yes you are bias. At that time only praise for for LH…..
@oldschool8330
@oldschool8330 3 месяца назад
Should have left more space then shouldn’t he?!
@hellodavey1902
@hellodavey1902 3 месяца назад
Yep
@barksnbo3625
@barksnbo3625 3 месяца назад
Don’t forget that it was Verstappen that turned out of the corner then recommitted expecting Hamilton to magically have disappeared. If he’d given way, he’d have survived and maybe even got the cutback…
@sammoore3687
@sammoore3687 3 месяца назад
@@barksnbo3625scamilton missed the apex by a country mile. Re watch who had more space to give…
@barksnbo3625
@barksnbo3625 3 месяца назад
@@sammoore3687 doesn’t have to hit the apex!! He just has to have the inside line at turn in (at that time according to FIA rules) So try again….
@bennyb865
@bennyb865 3 месяца назад
Lando praising Max's driving in 2021. One come together with Max and he's shedding tears in the post race interview. Lando doesn't have the mental capacity to come wheel to wheel with Max all season.
@ojiefaye
@ojiefaye 3 месяца назад
I can smell that RBR won’t be talking to them soon or banning them again with all this biased take🤷🏻‍♂️The hate they have because the driver that’s dominating is not british is unbelievable. Sooner or later this will all backfire to them…. SkySportsF1 are getting so comical with their takes…
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 RB were in the right to boycott Sky, they're a disgrace, much like yourself.
@jelmervanderleij6603
@jelmervanderleij6603 3 месяца назад
Narrative: Max is guilty and go from there...
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 3 месяца назад
not just "max is guilty", it's "Max is guilty and this is part of a consistent pattern of bad behaviour unique to him since he entered the sport, and he needs to be punished severely to prevent him from doing so again".
@oliverheyes5747
@oliverheyes5747 3 месяца назад
well he was at fault tho, he got a penalty so why wouldnt that be the narrative?
@dane4265
@dane4265 3 месяца назад
@@daarom3472 so much so that they created driving standard rules, based upon Max's dangerous driving. I think that says it all
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
@@daarom3472 But it is? Notice it's always him yet 'he's never wrong'
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 3 месяца назад
@@nickt4200 nice frame. I agree Max 2015-2018 was extremely rash and caused a lot of inchidents. But ever since it's been 50/50. Even in 2021 he was crashed into more than he crashed into others.
@Oscar-c8v
@Oscar-c8v 3 месяца назад
After reading the comments I’m not even gonna bother watching .
@Carbonarars
@Carbonarars 3 месяца назад
You should watch it, so you can hear the greatest bullshit of 2024
@HUMC5
@HUMC5 3 месяца назад
Too many Red Bull fanboys in the comments.
@Astronurd
@Astronurd 3 месяца назад
Bye 👋.
@WH0oo...
@WH0oo... 3 месяца назад
NOR lap 59, dive bombing on the inside and locking up and going off track. VER took evasive action to not get tboned from an overly aggressive overtake attempt. His premature rookie excitement made NOR unpredictable. VER wasn’t going to have that again. It was a professional foul. VER was properly booked. Time to move on. Noris’ inexperience as a front runner over the last three races exposed him as a liability.
@goosebumpgold
@goosebumpgold 3 месяца назад
Why does Crofty and Damon saw Max moving under braking...and Peter Windsor who is very knowledgeable did not?
@divinasi0n
@divinasi0n 3 месяца назад
Peter Windsor is not infallible. Just look at his comments section; there's always at least 1 correction from his subscribers. Have you seen the helicopter cam for that incident? From that shot you can see Max steering left into Lando who was along side.
@oliverheyes5747
@oliverheyes5747 3 месяца назад
i watched that video peter was right but wrong. max did break in a straight line (as windsor said) but was already angled to the left so drifted into norris which windsor missed
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
Hmmm dunno, maybe all that telemetry showing braking and steering inputs. Plus all those things called cameras, or eyes?
@TOMLINBISH
@TOMLINBISH 3 месяца назад
​@@divinasi0n Max steered right & then immediately left before turn 3.
@divinasi0n
@divinasi0n 3 месяца назад
@@oliverheyes5747 drifting to the outside of the track to squeeze the opponent wideis par for the course, it's hard but fair in my eyes. Max didn't do that. He starts turning more to the left under hard braking as can be seen from the chopper.
@a_n_t_o_n_
@a_n_t_o_n_ 3 месяца назад
See lap 26 main race Austria 2023. Sains vs Verstappen. No issue. Max didn't steer to the left Sunday, watch his on board. Lando had room on the left, same as max in 2023 without risking a time penalty or crash. Lando has got a lot of experience in racing in the back, I hope he learns quickly how to race in the front like Verstappen, Saints en Leclerc, so we get good battles.
@st4focus4mk4
@st4focus4mk4 3 месяца назад
With out watching hill n Croft will be usual ban max he’s bad. Biased reporting. Didnt hear them roasting Norris for max spain start forcing max off
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 3 месяца назад
Norris one incident in Spain...Max? How many drivers has Max bothered ontrack? Theres no smoke without fire!
@flyingtiger4991
@flyingtiger4991 3 месяца назад
just make Jos a steward ... there, problem solved 🤣
@slipstream01
@slipstream01 3 месяца назад
British media's coverage is a joke. Norris makes a dumb move and they act like he’s the second coming. Get real and start doing your job without the patriotic blinders on.
@obez42
@obez42 3 месяца назад
Also very interesting is how we’ve forgotten that one of Lando’s dive bombings forced Max off track, and had Max chosen NOT to leave the track, they would have crashed…👀 Also I didn’t hear Croft and his merry men and women at Sky F1 complain when Lando forced Max onto the grass at Barcelona…👀
@OldmanNix
@OldmanNix 3 месяца назад
If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny. Remember these people know F1, they've been in it for a minute. Underneath that thin layer of varnish? Vanity and toxicity reign.
@hog3y
@hog3y 3 месяца назад
Think you need to have a lie down mate, 3 comments in the space of 3 minutes. Max doesn't know you lil bro.
@planet_oith
@planet_oith 3 месяца назад
Actually he had bag's of room but over acted it to make us think that
@oldschool8330
@oldschool8330 3 месяца назад
Reminds me of the first lap of Abu Dhabi 2021…
@soroushnek
@soroushnek 3 месяца назад
not a good excuse !!
@michaelfierman3256
@michaelfierman3256 3 месяца назад
Hey listen you guys saying Max should be worried about his reputation as a driver: I refer you to the GOAT Michael Schumacher. Same style
@allanokeeffe9499
@allanokeeffe9499 3 месяца назад
Jim Clark is the GOAT.
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 2 месяца назад
​@@allanokeeffe9499that your bias opinion and not a fact 😂😂😂
@timpeachey9394
@timpeachey9394 3 месяца назад
Show the steering and braking trace. Stop this nonsense. The pressure they (British Media) are putting on the already weak minded Norris will break him by the end of the season.
@ShaulMTN
@ShaulMTN 3 месяца назад
First Skysports F1 podcast I have tunned out of. This was one incident. And Max is was not entirely saint but. . .Wow
@atedejong5620
@atedejong5620 3 месяца назад
the comments shows already how toxic the Skysports reporting is on this subject or any subject if it is Max. so guess without watching this video, I know who they bash and who they consider to be a saint!!!! whats new. maybe skysports should start an alternative F1 with only british drivers.
@oliverbailey4894
@oliverbailey4894 3 месяца назад
Or maybe the are reporting what they see and Max's driving is breaking the rules moving under breaking, which he did 3 laps in a row culminating in the collision
@James-mp5
@James-mp5 3 месяца назад
The race commentary was so much better without Croft, stay at home!
@marcowijbenga7901
@marcowijbenga7901 3 месяца назад
Lando’s penalty occurred and what he did was prior to the incident and Lando knew that he had an automatic 5 second penalty for breaking track limits 4 times. He was well aware of this and became even more desperate rather than taking proactive action by driving accordingly. So the fact is that at that point Lando was 5 seconds behind when he attempted to pass. Lando did not need to turn into Max as he had every opportunity to brake and slow his car to avoid an accident. Sadly he chose not to because of his immaturity
@everydaydose7779
@everydaydose7779 3 месяца назад
People acting like there was an invisible wall at the kerbs Lando pushed track limits when he was trying to pull on max but when he was trying to overtake he couldnt even put the whole tire on the kerb and just wants verstappen to magically disappear after the corner 😂
@livestreambruiloftrachelst9805
@livestreambruiloftrachelst9805 3 месяца назад
Newsflash: There isn’t a rule in the Sporting Regulations that says that you ‘can’t move under braking’. There used to be, but it’s long gone.
@jacodebeer4670
@jacodebeer4670 3 месяца назад
Wish more people would understand the rules, crying about something that's not even a rule
@Abraham_Justice
@Abraham_Justice 3 месяца назад
Do they realize they're completely contradicting themselves re: Silverstone '21? Do they realize that it doesn't matter what the rulebook says its how the stewards choose to officiate? Do they realize we rarely ever have racing this close? Do they realize Lando made the wrong decision to not move left whether he had the right or not? Do they realize the stewards delayed a 5 second time penalty to Lando that would've avoided the whole incident to begin with? Do they realize they've lost sight of reality?
@Lars-rj9en
@Lars-rj9en 3 месяца назад
Gawd, there must no stupider job than being an F1 pundit. Try to remember what racing is, Damon.
@charleshiort7153
@charleshiort7153 3 месяца назад
Too many anti Max opinions,so much hatred ,let it be!
@Carl-s4i
@Carl-s4i 3 месяца назад
See the thing is they have all the data. Right I'm a all British fan I want all our boys to do well. Nothing was said about Ocon and Gasley either. Lando had him and did not defend as hard as max would. He messed up inthe first place. But also you can look at Charles and max a few years ago its the same thing just no one got a puncher. Are we racing or not. This was hard racing. People didnt get into this whatever. Max adds the excitement that we want if you a true racing fan. Let them race hard as a true racing fan for 30 plus years
@j.vanderknaap9446
@j.vanderknaap9446 3 месяца назад
Drivers get booed because people buy the narrative you sell. 'You', collectively as the media. When you ask a driver how he feels about the booing, how do you do that with sincerity?
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
i wonder what the dutch media is posting about this. and i wonder what are your replies under those posts.
@j.vanderknaap9446
@j.vanderknaap9446 3 месяца назад
You can check that yourself. Google exists. And I don't read/watch Dutch media. But they are surely also contributing to building toxicity.
@j.vanderknaap9446
@j.vanderknaap9446 3 месяца назад
@@shu6037 Find out what they are posting. Also, my remark stands regardless of the person being booed. Drivers race, events happen, media weave narratives, people buy different narratives, the driver gets booed. I don't watch/read Dutch media.
@joyce6520
@joyce6520 3 месяца назад
Lmao (Max also) 🤣 How noble that you care so much about Max's reputation Mr. Hill. What a display! He will certainly go down in history as a great driver and an example to many!
@KrissNrgzer
@KrissNrgzer 3 месяца назад
Lando launches to the inside, Max does not crash to him, avoids the contact, controls the car. Max moves marginally to the left when Lando takes over from the outside, Lando does not move to try to avoid the crash. Why? Was it tight, Yes. Was there a space for Lando to move to, Yes. It's called racing to the limit! SENNA: "If you no longer go for the gap, you're not a racing driver"
@251085marcos
@251085marcos 3 месяца назад
my friend, it was Lando going for the space...not Max... But, it's all good ;)
@exeuropean
@exeuropean 3 месяца назад
Sky pundits are back with their anti Max bias.
@Pricelessmile
@Pricelessmile 3 месяца назад
RU-vid comments are back with their English hate 😂
@glord49
@glord49 3 месяца назад
Hahaahaaaha
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
Or just their opinions.
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@kristoffer3000 explain the abhorant behavior. From my memory, the only disgraceful fans were those at the dutch GP last year and the year before. The toxicity in F1 only started when Max did, no small coincidence.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
@@therealjimshady100 Are you serious? If so there's no need in continuing this because you're so far removed from reality that it's not even funny.
@janvanzuilekom
@janvanzuilekom 3 месяца назад
the facts matters , Peter Winsor's analysis is spot on , I understand fans choosing side especially the ones whom are not even legit to drive a car , the fact is that Lando's front wing hit Max's left rear tire , that's undeniable , another significant point is that Max did not steer towards Norris , I don't see the point that Max get all the negatives here , any driver moves to get the apex right
@Roguescienceguy
@Roguescienceguy 3 месяца назад
Ah yes, the most biased bunch of the lot. This will be good. Max was being very prudent with Lando and he barely moved. The crash was Lando not moving to do the switcheroo
@ianbarker9616
@ianbarker9616 3 месяца назад
think you a bit biased like max didn't do anything wrong in 2021
@themarketm8382
@themarketm8382 3 месяца назад
@@ianbarker9616 Max did a lot in 2021 wrong, the difference is he got away with it because Lewis avoided most of the collisions. Spain, Imola, Monza, Abu Dhabi, all should have been penalties to Max had Lewis accepted the collision and he would have easily gotten Max in serious trouble. Here however, he did nothing wrong. When both begin braking, Lando has to be significantly alongside (his front wing ahead of Max's rear wing) in order to be entitled to a cars' width of space and also to leave Max a cars' width of space going through the corner. He didn't do that on the lap he went off track and was not alongside when Max covered him off when the collision happened. Rule 20.3 brought in when Schumi blocked off another driver in Hungary 2010 entitles the driver behind only to the EDGE of the track, which Lando clearly had access to. Rule 20.5 also entitles Max to move back to the racing line even after he's made 1 move to cover Lando off. Lewis did it in COTA last year when he battled with Max too off the back straight. You people just can't accept that Max is going to race as hard as possible to the absolute limit and that he doesn't back out of challenges. That's true racing, he's not here to let Lando by for a fairytale ending, he's going to use every inch of the track on the limit to stop you from winning. It's up to Lando to either avoid or accept the collision because he took too much risk. It's funny how the British drivers can't drive, constantly cause collisions and making amateur mistakes when under pressure whether it's Russell in Singapore last year, Lewis vs Nico & Max or now Norris against Max ... how come Max battled fine against Leclerc or Sainz or even Schumacher in Silverstone last time out? Seems to be ego and supremacy vibes and sky sports promotes it too... but the fact is Max did nothign wrong, get over it.
@LouSassol69er
@LouSassol69er 3 месяца назад
Last person's opinion I want to hear is Crofty tbh
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
Go watch somone else then
@nickt4200
@nickt4200 3 месяца назад
So why you watching a Crofty video?
@andrewbragg504
@andrewbragg504 3 месяца назад
And nobody wants to read your opinion yet here you are
@iancooper7772
@iancooper7772 3 месяца назад
probably on the wrong channel then, cya
@andregrul8583
@andregrul8583 3 месяца назад
Watch the commentaries Peter Windsor made about this race!! May shed another light on things! My opinion is Max was one, Lando second! If Lando wants to win, he has to fight for it
@Cassie2288
@Cassie2288 3 месяца назад
I'm so disappointed in this discussion. Unbalanced and just hating on Max. Everyone has a right to an opinion yet fans of the sport deserve a more balanced discussion from people that actually understand the rules (consequences of action are never taken into consideration, maybe they should be but they aren't). Both Max and Lando contributed to the incident, and it really wasn't that big of a deal!
@cornkid3105
@cornkid3105 3 месяца назад
I agree entirely, both made mistakes, and it was a shame that it happened. Was a good watch tho, may it carry on ;)
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
Bri'ish innit
@therealjimshady100
@therealjimshady100 3 месяца назад
@@kristoffer3000 toxic dutch innit.
@srose1474
@srose1474 3 месяца назад
Peter Windsor has given a non biased description and analysis of the incident.
@Dav1d286
@Dav1d286 3 месяца назад
You can't just say 'British bias' every time someone critises Max. Max is an amazing driver, the best currently in F1, but this was poor driving from Max.
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
they do that as a last resort when they know their driver 100% undefendable. in their child mind they think it is a valid defence plus maybe create some pressure to stop critics. seen it over the years a lot
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 3 месяца назад
It's typical gaslighting from Max fans to try and manipulate the media. Win at all costs mentally.
@ptewilks2634
@ptewilks2634 3 месяца назад
Total bs media frenzy let the drivers drive lando should have been black flagged for limits he also needs to learn some craft
@clumhain
@clumhain 3 месяца назад
only blame i have is on the race officials. If they had given Lando his exceeding track limits penalty in a timely fashion none of this would have happened. Max would have let him by and glued himself to within 2 seconds to the end. Why are we ignoring this?
@naishmon6682
@naishmon6682 3 месяца назад
First 15 mins only blaming Verstappen. Nothing insightful.
@dk-ou9gt
@dk-ou9gt 3 месяца назад
two brits "discussing".. yeah right... everyone is wrong unless their british
@billB101
@billB101 3 месяца назад
*They're
@allanokeeffe9499
@allanokeeffe9499 3 месяца назад
See above.
@wolvera88
@wolvera88 3 месяца назад
It wasn’t clever racing from either of them. They had about ten laps left with Max struggling on tyres with Norris noted for leaving track with a quicker car. And yet, instead of being patient, he ran off track in an attempt to take Verstappen over, and Max lost his cool as well. Both were at fault in that
@KrissNrgzer
@KrissNrgzer 3 месяца назад
Agreed 👍
@lenpeeters4498
@lenpeeters4498 3 месяца назад
Very well said👏. Finally someone with common sense
@RoysIdea
@RoysIdea 3 месяца назад
Completely agree. Teams didn’t inform their drivers in a timely manner, also because the stewards didn’t do a timely job. Apparently Lando had already violated these track limits four time after receiving an official warning, before the stewards finally penalized him. But just in time for McLaren to do a 5 second stop just before retiring the car.
@peteraa4418
@peteraa4418 3 месяца назад
Stewards procrastinating as long as possible to give Norris the 5s penalty for track limits. It took what, 3-5 laps for something that was obviously his 4th strike. Had they just acted in a normal and timely fashion Norris would come over the line first and be on the second step. As for the racing, jinking by Max was ugly, as was Norris' trying to bomb a corner he was never going to make. But thats racing I guess and what happened happened.
@Manu-k2i
@Manu-k2i 3 месяца назад
"is it going to his reputation in the long run? Id hate to see that" Oh please. You'd LOVE to see that Damon. You don't like the guy its pretty evident.
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