My dad and I would go out on his little outboard boat to fish occasionally when I was young. He usually brought a small cooler with a few beers and he had said, “You can have a drink on a boat, but never get drunk on a boat!” Wise words, they stuck with me
The epic novel "the pillars of the earth" starts off with the white ship sinking and then the struggle for the crown that follows sets the backdrop for one of the best written novels ever.
Yep the Anglo and Norman royal and noble families were wiped out in what amounts to a drunken medieval car crash. And they said King Henry never smiled again.
Wow, I'd always thought that the White Ship sank in bad weather. So, it was just a drunken joy ride. And England was plunged into civil war for 15 years.
An excellent book about this matter is "The White Ship" by Charles Spencer, the brother of Princess Diana. It is an amazing book, well-researched and written. It was not a heavy read and quite enjoyable.
You don't need one incident. There's been many incidents I'm sure across human history. It's common sense to not have all heirs or political successors or a whole cabinet in the same transportation vehicle. Just in 2010, Poland lost its entire government cabinet including the President overnight in a plane crash.
It's the same with all royal families. I am Belgian, and our king never travels together with her eldest daughter, who is to be the next queen. I believe in the US, the president and the VP don't fly together either.
@@realtalk6195Similar reason why in the mining industry, they forbid family members from being together on the same shift- if an accident happens it could potentially be devastating to the workers’ communities.
This is the most detailed explanation of the White Ship Disaster I've come across on RU-vid, despite not being the longest. It's intriguing how Prince William sent the priest away without allowing them to bless the boat. Thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos!
What always strikes me in the MM videos is the total lack of coherence between the story and the visuals. A mishmash of medieval iconography, 19th century prints and whatnot.
My favorite account of the subsequent civil war is the (albeit somewhat fictionalized) book "When Christ and His Saints Slept." Highly recommended. And who watching this channel didn't learn about the White Ship disaster? Asking for a friend.
Sharon Kay Penman fan here! My absolute favorite of her books, and one of my top 3 all-time favorites, is her "The Sunne in Splendour" about Richard III. I read that book when I was in college, so sometime between 2004-2008. I was so sad that Richard's body was lost forever and did quite a bit of digging into theories about whether it really was just tossed into a river. I literally cried the day I learned he'd actually been found.
@@JW-vi2nh They had designated such a small area in the parking lot as the possible location of Richard III's remains, I was highly skeptical they'd find anything. But no -- they found a skeleton which, on examination, was discovered to have the asymmetrical shoulders one would expect. At this point, I was 99% certain. I scarcely even needed the DNA confirmation to get to 100%. It was a triumph. Talk about against all odds!
@@JW-vi2nh Ah -- nice to meet you! I drew the line with her books about the fictional spy of Elizabeth I, though. Maybe it was the time period. I truly am a medieval junkie, lol. "The Sunne in Splendour" was the first of her novels I read, and got me started on her. If you don't listen to "the medievalists" podcasts on RU-vid, I do recommend them. Done by a Canadian college professor, they frequently showcase dissertations on the cutting edge studies in medieval times (not the appalling restaurant chain. ha. ).
William the Conqueror had only two (legitimate) male-line grandsons, Robert’s son William and Henry’s son William. Both of them died before Henry, starting the long English tradition of not being able to maintain male-line succession for very long.
A wonderful historical drama that details the aftermath of William’s II his son’s tragic death in the white ship and his daughter empress Matilda fight for the throne is Ken Follet’s Pillars of the Earth and It’s one of my favorite mini series based on medieval era in this case the Middle Ages. The series is well written and includes several talented cast members like Donald Sutherland, Eddie Redmayne, Rufus Sewell, Ian McShane etc.
Excellent job covering this. You should also cover The Anarchy, you only briefly mention it at the end. Lasting 15 years, it’s filled with riveting tales and daring feats from captivating characters like Matilda and Stephen, whose feud is legendary and relationship complicated. Thomas FitzStephen was my ancestor, so I’m familiar with the story of the White Ship, but I learned so much in this video. The Anarchy would make a great sequel!
Narration, "Henry was the fourth son of the Norman King, William the Conqueror, and his wife, Mathilde of Flanders...." Homer Simpson grumbles, "Stupid Flanders...."
You aren't providing context and are far from making any sense. Shove your emoji and elaborate or keep your useless thought process to yourself. Sincerely, every academic ever. P. S If you have not reproduced yet, please continue to refrain from procreation.
How much do you think the Islamic slave raids on Europe effected their History? I have a feeling that England wouldn't became such a Naval power to protect it's self against such raids... but they never teach that in History class. Especially a modern British classroom. it's not currently politically beneficial.
Ikr, Islamic slave raids on medieval Europe were conducted by various groups, including the Crimean Khanate and Nogai Horde, Saracen pirates and Barbary pirates.
Well without this disaster, Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine would not have happened so no Richard the Lionheart nor King John and thus no Magna Carta.
An echo of this stunning tragedy happened in Tudor times. Henry VII's oldest boy drowned similarly, making the spare Henry VIII. You know, as the spare, he could have had a leisurely life with his favorite Ann Bolyn. Elizabeth would just have been another smart young very marriagable lady.
So, we've got a "Henry II" in the description box (it's Henry I) and now this. You know Google exists, right? He was firmly on land at the time of his passing.
You guys are right! Sorry about that! Senior moment! Now, I do remember some paintings of young Arthur and young Henry. So bland and pale. Too bad Holbein wasn't there to do them all.
Henry the First, not Henry the Second. William the First was William the Conqueror. William the Second, William Rufus, was Henry the First's older brother.
That's so interesting. I've heard this story so many times but I never heard the part that he went back for his sister. Thanks for teaching me something new.
🏳️🌈So Matilda’s son ended up chasing Katherine Hepburn all around the castle with cruel, scintillating banter comparable with George and Martha’s dysfunctional relationship.🏳️🌈
The new editing with random Shutterstock images is pulling the quality of your content down. The picture of some gorges from the south of France to illustrate Normandy gave me a good giggle though. Who could have guessed Normandy actually looked exactly like southern England since it’s the same landmass, hey? 😂
Entertaining monologue. Some nice pictures, some very odd, some funny. I never knew that Henry II was not a direct heir. Not that I've tried very hard to find out, but thanks!
The unwillingness of English Kings to pay homage for their french lands have at least twice led to disaster. Edward II was also unwilling to pay homage and arguably the results were even more disastrous for him than for Henry if less so for England.
That the butcher survived is rather unsurprising, except perhaps to his debtors. To paraphrase Jane Austin's Sense and Sensibility, people will live forever when there's money coming in.
It always kills me (no pun intended) when people war for years and years and hundreds of thousands die, only for them to come to a conclusion they could have come to before all the senseless deaths
I've heard of the sinking of the White Ship. I can't remember where, but I'd heard of it. I don't think I've ever heard so many details of the event before though.
i'm glad the king wasn't so petty as to kill the butcher in rage because he survived and the son didn't. i guess it helped that there was obviously no way the butcher could have played a part in the sinking.. wow the prince's secret service did their job and got him into a lifeboat! only to foolishly follow his orders 😕
The title is not a mistake. Typos drive up initial engagement, as people come to leave comments. And then it's easily corrected a few hours later. Seen a lot of channels do this.
futurepig 0 seconds ago Great history lesson! I guess the captain knew drowning was a less painful dearh than arriving to land after some of the richest people of the world had died on his watch.
