THE MEG (2018) MOVIE REACTION - SHARK MOVIES ARE GETTING CRAZIER! - First Time Watching - Review

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Hey Knights! Today we dive into the depths of The Meg (2018) for the very first time. Join us on this exhilarating journey as we share our genuine reactions to the colossal shark adventure that has captivated audiences around the world. This film is filled with underwater suspense, jaw-dropping moments, and massive creature encounters that made it one of the wildest shark movies we've watched all year!
What is worse than a Great White shark? That's right a Megalodon that's trying to figure out where it fits in the food chain. Something tells us we are not gonna like the answer! In this thrilling film, we'll witness the discovery of the ancient megalodon, a prehistoric predator thought to be extinct. As we navigate the high-stakes mission to confront this monstrous creature we'll be adding our usual input on some of the films many aspects!
We hope you enjoy our reactions and commentary as we delve into the film's impact on the monster movie genre, its place in the world of aquatic thrills, and the technological achievements that make The Meg an absolute blast. After watching films like Jaws or Deep Blue Sea this one has it's own place in the genre.
Thank you guys so much for watching this with us!
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@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Hey guys! Another shark movie for all of you! Leave a like if you enjoy the reaction (it helps a ton) and subscribe to catch our next reactions ❤ If you'd like to support the channel and gain access to the full length reaction become a member of our patreon bit.ly/3ICVrJ6

@grimreaper1417 10 месяцев назад

Could you guys do the Sharknado movies reaction please and thank you if you guys do it.

@savannahmetzger3069 10 месяцев назад

I ALMOST died #LMFAO when the #Sprite that I was drinking suddenly shot out of my nose at time stamp: 30:06 when y'all straight up said, "OOOOHH, he be munchin".

@phoenixflame5526 10 месяцев назад

The Shallows is the only other good shark film that I recommend next

@Romanoff.Kalashnikov 5 месяцев назад

please watch Tremor next!

@dwrjames 5 месяцев назад

Try a film called “Bait” if you want shark meets natural disaster

@samuraiwarriorsunite 10 месяцев назад

If a film can be entertaining, it's done its job, and The Meg certainly qualifies.

@maliii266 10 месяцев назад

Agreed, it was fun!

@MentalLiberation 7 месяцев назад

Darn right.

@Evilcsharper6474 5 месяцев назад

This is tripe, just dreadful

@Vynne96-jg7er 4 месяца назад

@@Evilcsharper6474If you don't like it, don't watch it.🤡

@BiggestLilPete 4 месяца назад

@@Evilcsharper6474 Either your hypocrite for watching or you literally clicked on the vid to complain, either way just is horrible of you.

@adiarainfoster 10 месяцев назад

People never notice that the name of the little dog here is also the name of the dog in Jaws the guy was playing fetch with and got eaten at the beach. another little jaws Easter egg 😆

@seanharrison9496 5 месяцев назад

I caught that when I saw the movie in theaters

@ramon.rnt1992 10 месяцев назад

You couldn't have said it better. it's a fun popcorn flick, super entertaining, fun, and engaging...sharknado should be the last of this shark movie binge😂

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Oh my god don’t 😂 You can tell by my face how excited I am about that idea

@ramon.rnt1992 10 месяцев назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights Cinematic masterpiece 🤣

@perki1573 10 месяцев назад

Another just plain fun and entertaining summer action movie!

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Yesss!! Love those and this one hit just right!!

@TheSovietRaccoon 4 месяца назад

I like how this movie is at least somewhat realistic and always tries to give an explanation even if it isn’t the best one

@Hungarycloud Месяц назад

This is a guilty pleasure movie for me. It's silly and fun, but not stupid.

@shainewhite2781 10 месяцев назад

Based on the novel of the same name by Steve Alten. It took them 20 years to make this movie happen. A lot of directors Guillermo Del Toro, Eli Roth, and Jan De Bont, were considered for making the project. It made $530 million dollars against a $178 million dollar budget.

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Whoaaa what a turnout!! Incredible how so many amazing directors were considered for this! It was such a fun ride, we thoroughly enjoyed this movie!

@bridgethaines7127 10 месяцев назад

And bearing almost zero resemblance to the book at all whatsoever. Fun in it's own right, however.

@shyfoxfeatherhere6446 10 месяцев назад

i didn't know Del Toro was apart of this movie

@Jamalmillzy 10 месяцев назад

You know it's a good night when you watching RU-vid and you get a notification that these guys make a new vid

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Ahh man! That warms our hearts 😄

@zachtrevan2726 10 месяцев назад

I absolutely love this movie, I hope you enjoyed this movie as much as I did

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

We had a blast!

@BarronessM 9 месяцев назад

Fun Fact: Jason Statham did most his own swimming (they used a double for the really hazardous stuff). He represented England in the 1990 Commonwealth Games for diving. At one point he was ranked 12 in the world for platform diving.

@MentalLiberation 7 месяцев назад

This guy is like a Renaissance man. Quite the athlete

@Markxxxx1480 10 месяцев назад

Two of the absolutely best shark movies are the shallows and 47 meters down. So good 👌👌👌

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Hell yes, we have those on our list!! Cannot wait to get to them when we have the chance!

@creaturemonk 10 месяцев назад

@OfficialMediaKnights don't forget 47 meters down uncaged

@anoukcarswell6611 10 месяцев назад

47 Meters ... Uncaged

@BubblyRainbows 10 месяцев назад

@@creaturemonk I don't want to spoil anything by asking about specifics (please don't give any), but if "47 Meters Down: Uncaged" is the one I think it is, I _really_ liked that one. Personally, I also liked "Open Water," "The Shallows," and even though it's not a shark movie, I always have to recommend "Soul Surfer" whenever shark movies come up. True story about an _amazing_ human being.

@Croxby1 3 месяца назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights Also, The Reef. One of the best shark films I've seen.

@yethuwun5805 10 месяцев назад

i'm glad you guys watched meg! the meg 2 the trench is on its way so i hope you guys do the reaction of it too when it comes out

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Most likely! We’ll keep an eye out for it 😃

@sheeps1495 3 месяца назад

The references from ‘JAWS’ are brilliant, but watching this with you the 2nd time for myself, I noticed the Bride on the yacht near the beach called her dog ‘Pippin’ same as the black Labrador on the beach in ‘Jaws’ . Thank you for this.

@trinetiger1 3 месяца назад

I'm so happy they saved Pippin as well, as there are so many movies that they kill the dog. I want a Pippin now 🙂

@PBRatLord 10 месяцев назад

You guys should check out Crawl for another good horror creature feature! Crocodiles + lots of flooding + stranded deep in storm territory = a great time, has some great suspenseful moments and is criminally underrated for these animal-kinda horror flicks !

@j.j.h.atemycereal 9 месяцев назад

Can this be considered a "B Movie" when it costs SO much money? Not that there's anything wrong with being a B movie. But don't get me wrong, this movie is TONS of fun. And features one of my favorite actors, Cliff Curtis. He's one of those guys who shows up everywhere and is ALWAYS good. Great choice, guys. Thanks!

@OfficialMediaKnights 9 месяцев назад

I myself was asking the same question. Technically no because of it's budget but it definitely gives off that vibe. Just a fun popcorn flick!

@miri6220 10 месяцев назад

I absolutely love ridiculous monster movies (as well as disaster movies), it’s my guilty pleasure. shark movies are a fav of mine, i love sharks, they’re beautiful creatures. i wrote a college paper about the “jaws effect” and how sensationalizing random shark attacks and killer shark movies led to millions of shark deaths over the years, & how people are more dangerous to them than they are to us. still, as long as people understand it’s fiction, it’s such a fun & entertaining sub genre of films 😁😁

@KxxSxrx 3 месяца назад

True, I watched Jaws when I was a kid. It was the beginning of my obsession with sharks. I'm a marine scientist now😂 and trust me many of us got inspired by Jaws

@ImigcoboTunyiswa 4 дня назад

Aree singing the Jurassic Park theme song is hilarious 😆

@whitneytincher6016 10 месяцев назад

You guys are awesome! Bring on ALL of the Creature Feature reactions. 😄

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Haha aw thank you, you are awesome!! We are definitely loving our creature features and will be sharing more very soon!!

@blueeyedcowboy8291 6 месяцев назад

I think "The Shallows" was a really good scary as hell shark movie. "47 Meters Down" is another good one. Definitely check those out for next years summer shark movies. Great reaction, I liked this movie.

@dustinlee8271 10 месяцев назад

If you want to keep the deep sea theme going, I recommend 'The Abyss'(1989). James Cameron

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Ohhh!! I’ve had that one on my list for years! Thank you for reminding me! That’s an excellent suggestion 😃

@SkewedPerspective 3 месяца назад

I second, third and fourth this motion !

@kikibwellness 10 месяцев назад

This was such a fun one! I always worry about the dog. 😅 Excited to see the sequel tomorrow!

@chrisclay7013 10 месяцев назад

Pippin was also the name of the dog on the beach with Alex Kitner - excellent callback.

@myroselle6987 5 месяцев назад

Actually it was Pipit but close enough. I hated that part of the movie. I did read, however that Spielberg offered an alternate idea of what happened. He was getting feedback from people complaining about that segment and he responded by saying that maybe, just maybe, Pipit didn’t belong to the guy throwing the stick. Maybe he was a neighbors dog who just decided he was tired of chasing the stick and went home. Pipit wasn’t, perhaps, eaten by the shark at all. I can live with that!

@SKYLINEGTR 3 месяца назад

Megalodon is beautiful! This is the whole person, if he does not understand something or is afraid, he immediately wants to destroy it, he does not appreciate life itself

@ManeOMane 10 месяцев назад

I've recently stumble onto you guys and I love the vibes here it's great relaxation kicking back with you guys

@AndrewBrown-fq6vp 9 месяцев назад

I love you guys. I love that you both bring things to the table and actually react to the videos not boring commentary. You crying in Saving Private Ryan made me cry! 🙂

@mirtieraczo5842 9 месяцев назад

I have been so highly entertained watching you watch this movie. It's one of my favorites.

@tori623worth 10 месяцев назад

The reference to Florida drivers had me on the floor 🤣 I lived there for 5 years. It's sooo accurate ❤ Great video!

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Hahaha I need to find a “I survived I-95” hoodie

@isabellesoto4391 8 месяцев назад

I laughed too! I have family in Florida. Every time I go, my dad always offers to drive to sacrifice for us. 😂

@AnvilHammer-br1xp 7 месяцев назад

I LOVE your reactions ! There is a movie that came out soon after Jaws called ORCA. and Lake Placid. both worth watching :)

@OfficialMediaKnights 7 месяцев назад

Heard a bit about Orca! We're definitely game to watch out!

@samhainkid 6 месяцев назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights Orca rules! But it has a vastly different tone to it than your average shark attack movie. It actually gets pretty emotional and somber. WELL worth checking out!!

@MarvelConnoisseur 10 месяцев назад

Here’s a fun fact about Megalodon: - its bite force has been estimated to be 40,000 lbs. per square inch (20 tons). Compared to a T-Rex’s bite force of 12,800 lbs. (6.4 tons), that’s 27,200 pounds (13.6 tons) more powerful

@FinarfinNoldorin 9 месяцев назад

It was great watching this movie with you! Thank you!!

@Belladonna313 10 месяцев назад

Saturday night sorted. You guys are killing it with these reactions. X

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Haha aw that's so great to hear!! Have the best Saturday night and we hope you enjoy!! Thanks for the support!

@stephvoice1235 10 месяцев назад

Only just found you guys but I love you already you have my sense of humour.... First thing i thought was the jurassic park theme too 🤣 going to check out your others after this

@bridgethaines7127 10 месяцев назад

This movie is fun. It's resembles the book its based off of about as much as Jurassic Park: The Lost World did, but still a fun popcorn movie. There are dive masks that are full face, like worn here, which have a mic and speaker in them, it's pressurized to keep the water out. There's usually a lot of other breathing noise over them if you watch shark week :D

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Been watching some awesome documentaries on sharks the entire summer! They’re awesome! This was such a fun popcorn flick. Thank you for watching!

@DarkKnightBatman420 10 месяцев назад

Don't forget 47 Meters Down and Poseidon. OOhhhh how could I forget Open Water. That one just hits different. Tbh I probably mentioned it, but it isn't the average sea horror story.

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Ooohhhh those are awesome recommendations, thanks so much!! Definitely adding those!!

@andrewspam 3 месяца назад

Li bingbing also stars in a fun movie called “The Forbidden Kingdom”. Also has Jackie Chan and Jet Li together for the first time. Well worth a watch.

@lionlyons День назад

I like how they cast a Chinese child actor in the role of Meiying, rather than a Chinese-American. She speaks fluent English, but it’s obvious that it’s not her first language. You don’t often see this. Usually, in these circumstances, the parent sounds foreign but the child doesn’t.

@Short_Round1999 10 месяцев назад

42:38 Even the dog name was a reference cuz in the first movie the chocolate lab was also named Pippin

@KxxSxrx 3 месяца назад

As a marine scientist and obsessed with sharks, despite the lack of scientific facts about marine research and sharks, I really enjoyed this movie. Compared to any other shark movie (probably except for Jaws, so much respect for that movie. It made me dream of pursuing marine science.

@barlowsboutique 10 месяцев назад

so good! love how they named the dog pippin, just like the dog in Jaws.

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Haha right?! They had a bunch of those callbacks which is always awesome to see!!

@perki1573 10 месяцев назад

A dog named Pippin was also in Jaws. Nice callback!

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

We loved that!! Glad this doggo survived though!!

@Pochitaman30 10 месяцев назад

Despite the terrible dialogues i really enjoyed this movie. Exploring the unknown deeps, seeing new sea creatures and just the ocean itself is always mesmerizing to me. The Meg did a good job capturing that feeling

@penguincgm489 10 месяцев назад

I like how The Meg makes it tense for us, like the shark cage scene! Bad things keep piling up😂 and it's difficult to guess who's going to die too. Some characters fall into the water three times and still lives! Keep me guessing all the time who's gonna die next😂

@animallover1404 10 месяцев назад

Love your reactions you guys💙💚💛🐾 I actually love this movie especially since it is a more current movie with a Megalodon. I do wish it was more like the book (which, I haven't read yet but I know it's a lot more serious). If you guys want to watch a good shark movie where it's a calamity movie with sharks, "Bait (2012)" is a good pick. You guys should also watch some Crocodilian movies too.

@samhainkid 6 месяцев назад

Bait is a really cool movie. And yeah, the Meg series of books is very different and ALL of them are damn good reads.

@11hellsgate 10 месяцев назад

Love this 1 and meg2 so good and because of jason lol one my favourite actors

@dalevintage 3 месяца назад

This was AMAZING in the theater!! ❤️🎬👍

@maliii266 10 месяцев назад

I’d be so down for reactions to Sharknado! 😂

@rexmorgado2128 2 месяца назад

“Where did you guys get your licenses from Florida?” As a Floridian born and raised, this comment couldn’t be more accurate 😂

@lisadesandre2249 Месяц назад

I was surprised that you didn't catch that the dogs name was the same as in Jaws, great redeem for the first Pippit dying.

@lucidhound4632 3 месяца назад

The little yorkie named Pippin is actually a reference to Jaws from the beach scene with the black lab who was also named Pippin.

@louielouie22 10 месяцев назад

The Red Violin 🎻

@jennavalerius4051 15 дней назад

34:35 To quote a famous Jedi Master "There's always a bigger fish".

@dalevintage 3 месяца назад

This one of my top 3 favorite shark movies of all time! Behind Deep Blue Sea and my childhood favorite JAWS. ❤️🎬👍

@lordofalltime 9 месяцев назад

when the Meg bit the tunnel, couldn't help but think King Shark

@eloyhernandez8652 3 дня назад

I am enjoying watching this.!movie with ypu, thank you from a veteran.

@kalskirata9075 10 месяцев назад

I know I'm a little behind on catching up with your guys's videos but I love pointing this kind of stuff out not a lot of people notice it but when that submarine imploded in the beginning on the right side you can actually see the Megalodon getting blown up and turning into chunks which is cool cuz Jonas pointed it out later

@wolverine669 7 месяцев назад

There's a lot of shark movies, like "47 Meters Down", "In The Deep", "Shark Bait", "Shark Night", "Red Water", "Bait".........

@yednielsanchez7709 10 месяцев назад

You guys are the best keep doing this ❤

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! That means a lot to us ❤️

@KennyYoutubeMakesMeFeelGood 10 месяцев назад

Aria and Densie I got an interesting story to tell you The part where they're filming the boat scene thin the actress ruby rose she almost drowned during the sad because her feet were And drowned by a bunch of water and the people had to stop for a moment to save her but she's okay but it really did happen during filming this movie !!!

@sharonjoan1970 10 месяцев назад

Love this Movie❤ Statham Rose Megalodon what more do you need❤ Can't wait to watch the Meg 2...

@AndrewBrown-fq6vp 9 месяцев назад

The launch of the glider reminded me of the launch of Thunderbird 4. 🙂

@jimmykarlsson2567 10 месяцев назад

I understand completely why you having a good time 😀 everything about Sharks is awesome

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Haha sharks are awesome, but a megalodon?? Even better!!

@jimmykarlsson2567 10 месяцев назад

@@OfficialMediaKnights 💪💪💪

@Short_Round1999 10 месяцев назад

31:28 These styles of dive masks don’t have a mouth piece to bite on. So, this gives the divers freedom to communicate properly underwater without hand signals or resurfacing

@belvagurr403 3 дня назад

Cliff Curtis is in a wonderful movie called WHALE RIDER. Niki Caro is the director in this New Zealand film.

@brendanlenane2685 12 дней назад

Just found your channel and have been binge watching all your vids. Hello from Ireland. did you notice at the start when the sub explodes that you see a meg get destroyed by the explotion.

@BlueJean452 10 месяцев назад

You guys should definitely check out the shallows. It’s a different take on a shark movie. I love it.

@valestrafox89 9 месяцев назад

Did anyone else get the ‘Pippin’ reference with the dog? That was the name of the dog that got eaten by the shark in the first jaws film lol 😂

@johannesbowers7467 5 месяцев назад

You may have missed it in your jaw's reaction. But pippin was a reference as well..... Pippin was the dog playing fetch on the beach when the Kitner boy was taken.... The inflatable raft washed up on the beach and so did the stick.

@chaoticdemise4494 3 месяца назад

I remember alot of ppl talking crap about it before it came out. Then everyone said it's a good movie, atleast a solid 7+ depending who says what. To me it's a solid 8

@RinzlerWraith 4 месяца назад

A split second to make a decision, and a lifetime to tear it apart

@ednicolle2456 10 месяцев назад

oh go on, please do Sharknado!!

@fritzkaraldo8452 10 месяцев назад

Going deep into the ocean scares me the same way climbing mountains does, when you make it to the top or bottom you just halfway there...

@DarkKnightBatman420 10 месяцев назад

25:55 I understood that reference.

@nukesmodsyt 4 месяца назад

I only just realised Rainn Wilson is one of the actors in the meg

@michaelbaumert9533 8 месяцев назад

Please do sharknado it is a rabbit hole. I don't think it was ever supposed to be what it became. It's something I think u should watch.

@Roryramsay771 2 месяца назад

I would love if you reacted to the iron giant love you guys

@jenny_lee_87 4 месяца назад

25:55 😂 well I was swimming near a beach buoy, and I saw and touched with my foot something white, that scared me, thought I was gone 😅 it ended up being a freaking plastic bag 😵😂

@travisbell736 6 месяцев назад

Loved the FL shade comment 😉👍🏻

@LukeyBoy125 10 месяцев назад

Steve Alten is an awesome author , he wrote' Dominion- The Mayan Trilogy',a great science fiction series . I hope someday a good director brings them to the screen.🤞

@RedRanger1138 2 месяца назад

What’s funny is that Jonas felt the pressure while in a pressurized vessel. So he shouldn’t have got the nosebleed

@lostheroes87 10 месяцев назад

Great reaction and really enjoying your channel! If you haven't seen them, you should react to all of the Godzilla/Kong movies.

@NemiDK81 9 месяцев назад

Yes sharknado!!!!!

@silentdelicate2299 9 месяцев назад

I loved this movie I love the jaws references too the dog in the first jaws was called pippin and he was eaten so I’m called this dog survived and I’m so called you guys picked up on the subtle references I loved Jason statham and the lady that plays Suyin

@bloodblossom8435 10 месяцев назад

There is actually a shark movie base with a national disaster it's called( Bait) it's one of my favorite shark movies so good🦈🦈🦈

@missmxjin8750 9 месяцев назад

Favorite shark movie. Second is sharknado

@juliaprzeborowska7546 10 месяцев назад

not shark movie but croc/alligator movies : " Lake placid " or " Rogue " are so much fun as well

@pobstrel 10 месяцев назад

And 'Alligator' from 1980 is well worth a watch too!

@Shanosuke Месяц назад

It was an okay movie but i had read the book and having that anticipation hurt my overall opinion of the film. The part that hurt the most was cutting the Tanaka family and substituting them with Suyin and her father. Two very different kinds of characters and Terry Tanaka was a very likable character for a female lead. I wonder why they changed so much

@aminraki5344 4 месяца назад

You've so many movies to watch like Avatar, godzilla King of the monsters, godzilla vs Kong, avengers, and...,

@DarkKnightBatman420 10 месяцев назад

Saw a video where Rainn Wilson talked about sitting next to a guy on a plane watching the office for the entire flight, which he acted in and is most well known for. Rainn said he never got into it and the guy defended it, then he took off his face mask slowly and talked to him. It took almost a minute for the realization to sink in then the guys mind was blown. As a big fan of the office, with some small reservations, I thought it was funny. It's great Rainn Wilson is in this, Super, and Star Trek: Discovery. Hope to see him in more things.

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Whaaat, that is such a great story haha!! Imagine sitting next to an actor that's in your favorite show and getting to tell them why you love it! It was probably a good thing the guy didn't know it was him 😂😂

@Rainbow.Pegacorn.Cosplay 7 месяцев назад

It's interesting to see Ruby Rose in this movie after seeing her in the first season of Batwoman as the title character. Batwoman in comics and other media is the cousin of Batman.

@StephFish1004 10 месяцев назад

With how big that sucker was some of those people weren't even chomped on, just straight up swallowed! I don't know which would be worse: crushed to death in the jaws or broken down while alive in the digestive system. Both sound horrifying...

@leroyd3480 6 месяцев назад

Great reaction. A fun movie. And starring Jason Statham as... Jason Statham. 😂

@to0muchtoan 10 месяцев назад

Nothing spurs a rescue effort like sheer pettiness to prove your ex wrong lmao

@OfficialMediaKnights 10 месяцев назад

Eeeexactly! 😂

@kpednault 4 месяца назад

The kid is the best character lol

@erikbjelke4411 2 месяца назад

The best "meat and potatoes" shark movie since "Jaws" is, hands down, "The Shallows."

@my_randomology 8 месяцев назад

at 2:42 in your video, when the sub explodes, you can actually see the first meg get destroyed on the right side of the screen.

@dalevintage 3 месяца назад

Someone probably already told you this, but the dog in The Meg, is a callback to the lab who was eaten in JAWS. 😀 ❤️🎬👍

@abysswatchers2685 10 месяцев назад

I just watched Salem's Lot (the original one) and I recommend you guys to check it out. The 80s had some truly atmospheric horror gems.

@Ani8900 Месяц назад

Fun fact for this movie, even if the megalodon swallows you hole you're as good as dead because it's stomach will immediately digest as quick as possible 46:30 "and you guys are in the sky" 🤣🤣 everyone thought that!!!

@SkewedPerspective 3 месяца назад

Your faces when the second one came up, and yes, there is Always a bigger fish ! ( sorry, had to )