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The Menendez brothers were given life sentences for gunning down their own parents. Now they’re hoping new evidence could reopen the case. "48 Hours" contributor Natalie Morales reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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@48hours 3 месяца назад

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@cliftonbowers6376 2 месяца назад

Rosie and I thank you great program❤😢

@jakeknapp6833 2 месяца назад

Hey 48 hours wish those brothers or what if the timeline alternate if these brothers should never exist and not commit crimes

@AnaPeraza-qv8uu 2 месяца назад

TAMBIEN. RICKY. MARTY. LO. ABUSARON. SEXUALMENTE. FREE. MENENDEZ. FREE. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@dorcasmalorcas 3 месяца назад

"Did you ask him not to" is such a fukked up question to ask someone raped by their father.

@daniellle4270 3 месяца назад

UNACCEPTABLE 🤮

@kaykaystern 3 месяца назад

Being someone who is a survivor of sexual abuse for the years between age 5-12...i couldn't imagine saying a single word to the monster who abused me back then, you feel so secluded and that something horrible would happen if I said anything. That question urkes tf outta me

@dorcasmalorcas 3 месяца назад

@@kaykaystern I'm so sorry for what your body was subjected to, I can imagine how much that question was hurtful for you to hear

@oliwia2104 3 месяца назад

literally insane to ask,most rape victims say “No” and what… they still get raped what kind of question was that.. asked by a woman too.

@kendallevans4079 3 месяца назад

That whole sexual abuse BS was a Hail Mary pass thrown by the defense council. He knew their goose was cooked and just threw out ANYTHING to try and put doubt in the juries mind

@patriciapayne1274 3 месяца назад

For them to say that Jose was not the "type" of person to sexually abuse his children is utterly asinine. As a young (22 yrs old) nurse I was raped by a well respected doctor. Don't talk to me about "type."

@jeremysmith9694 3 месяца назад

Did you ask him not to?

@nbaoldgirl 3 месяца назад

Sending you genuine loving vibes ❤ Thank you for being a nurse and a survivor.

@pauls4923 3 месяца назад

@@jeremysmith9694what a ridiculous question…take a wild guess

@jeremysmith9694 3 месяца назад

@@pauls4923 why would I guess when I can ask her? I wasn't there.

@truss6282 3 месяца назад

I highly doubt it.

@iammarcnixon 2 месяца назад

“Did you ask him not to” is a WILD question 😮😮

@user-om8dk9ur2w Месяц назад

sick person asked it

@divine_cosmos 3 дня назад

I know!!! It’s an awful question to ask. Talk about victim blaming. Jeez

@anellawrites 2 месяца назад

This is why this is so believable to me. I was sexually abused by my father ages 4-9. My mother blamed me for it so badly I decided to pretend I didn’t remember the abuse. I kept the secret for 35 years. Until one day an astute friend asked me why I talked about how much I hated my mother but I never mentioned my father. I was shaking so badly while I told her the truth. I wrote a blog post about how hard it was to keep secrets and maybe if I hadn’t been keeping this big family secret it would be easier. One of my aunts saw the post and sent my other aunt to talk to me. Turns out my father did the same thing to her and MY MOTHER KNEW ABOUT IT. She said my mother was angry with her. Which means my mother knew my father was a pedophile BEFORE she married him, married him anyway, and had daughters with him. Mothers do this. They need to keep that man so much they will sacrifice their own children to do it.

@susanlett9632 2 месяца назад

My God! I'm so sorry. So 😔 sorry that happened to you ❤️

@tarahill308 2 месяца назад

It’s so sad wht you had to go through. I never understood why people have more anger for a weak mom more than the person who harmed them. Mom definitely had mental issues she didn’t want to face but the dad was just evil.

@melissarose888 2 месяца назад

@@tarahill308because the mother is supposed to protect their children. She could have left and taken her daughter out of the abusive home.

@tarahill308 2 месяца назад

@@melissarose888 Dad suppose to protect as well hun.

@thunderousapplause 2 месяца назад

parental betrayal is a soul killer. I am so sorry and I hope so much you have a therapist who understands how to treat these issues and I hope so much you have a community of people who are soft and kind. I'm so very sorry.

@denisebenedict6102 3 месяца назад

One thing that should have never happened is for the same Judge to preside over both trials.

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

Absolutely agree

@michellecook-hill431 2 месяца назад

TRUTH!!!!!

@vegasbaby3669 2 месяца назад

100% agreed

@danijacks__ 2 месяца назад

if they changed the jury and the boys even had changed lawyers ,, the judge definitely should have been

@acc4465 2 месяца назад

How do you even think of something so ridiculous?

@Acalltoservice03 3 месяца назад

As a survivor of rape by my older brother when I was 11. I can fully relate to the brothers and how they handled the trauma. For years I had a rage that would burn for a short period and then I would simply mentally push it down and act like a fully normal kid. It's only by the grace of God that I never killed anyone or killed myself.

@surlygirly1926 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this insight. I believe the brothers, but had difficulty understanding the murderous meltdown. This has helped alot.

@xxwhispersxx2856 3 месяца назад

I am so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are doing well now.

@JenniferNewLife144 3 месяца назад

oh wow, I am sorry you endured that

@Lila22.11 3 месяца назад

Blessings to you ❤

@carlywright5127 3 месяца назад

What can we say. Many of us understand. You have every right to be angry. Do not let him, his action take over your life. He was himself probably abused. Stay ok.

@catsofastypalea 2 месяца назад

I was a HUGE fan of Menudo in my childhood and it was very brave of Roy Rosello to speak up. I hope it helps the Menendez brothers and they all get strength to live their lives in peace. ❤

@laumarlopez8417 2 месяца назад

I was shocked when I saw his interview. I got chills and I cried just by hearing him. I hate the fact that Caritina Saralegi realize her mistakes and apologize to him. I hope the Menéndez are set free.

@vicks827 2 месяца назад

I’ve read Edgardo Diaz is being investigated of alledge sexual abuse. I know these things take a while but I hope not too long. I want to see Diaz pay for his crimes while he’s still alive.

@chewysilviaalayah2141 2 месяца назад

Yo tanvien ojala salgan estos hermanos😢

@carlosurbinaverboonen7791 Месяц назад

Most of the group Menudo were and are jo jo josss,,,

@MrsGMD Месяц назад

I was a huge fan also and I was very proud of them him also ❤

@longseafirerybell2030 2 месяца назад

It's funny how some people assume because they never saw the abuse, it somehow never happened. Abusers won't abuse in front of witnesses! Always keep that in mind. These two boys deserve a fair trial if they were victims of severe sexual abuse!

@tamarinbush6613 2 месяца назад

My ex use to hit the back of my head upper arms and torso so that I didn’t have marks visible. And yes pro use to say what a great guy he was 🙄

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

Their explanations of abuse do not explain why they shot the mother 15 times. They already had a fair trial. The parents were UNARMED when the sons killed them. The alleged past abuse is not a legal self-defense argument. The abuse is a one sided story. If the abuse accusations are true one could argue it was consensual and they liked it since they kept living there after they turned adults.

@Lemana28021989 Месяц назад

It's the same line of 'argument', when people say "But they were always nice to me, I can't believe it." Well guess what, Claudia, it still did!

@TandC9876 Месяц назад

That part!

@littlelou1811 Месяц назад

Didnt they lie to the police and say they were at the theatre when their parents were murdered? Thwn once they they were found out they told the story of abuse? If it was really about the abuse they wouldnt have lied to begin with

@Rebwell 3 месяца назад

I hope the therapist who told his girlfriend lost his license

@murthunt1047 3 месяца назад

Therapists are actually legally obliged to report child abuse or if someone is a clear and present danger to others

@Jacksonmahomeisgay 3 месяца назад

@@murthunt1047lmao that's not what went down but u twirl ya fingers snowflake

@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 3 месяца назад

@@murthunt1047 - They didn't reveal child abuse; they revealed the confession of killing their parents. That probably constitutes an ethical breach, and you can lose your license over it. At the minimum, you can be censured and warned that another such violation will result in your license being revoked.

@Rebwell 3 месяца назад

@@murthunt1047 at the time of the crime, no one was a child and there was no imminent threat. The crime was the past. Pillow talking with your girlfriend and recording seasons is NOT reporting abuse either. This was absolutely against all ethics.

@-HeyLyd- 3 месяца назад

The therapist didn't tell his girlfriend. She was waiting outside the room where a therapy session was taking place, and she overheard Eric confessing to the therapist. Then that girlfriend contacted police. (The whole therapist/girlfriend sideshow at the trial was totally wild.)

@godlygirls62 3 месяца назад

My "father" physically, psychologically, mentally and verbally abused me, my 4 siblings and our mother. From ages 4-12, he sexually abused me. He stopped sexually abusing me when I grew big enough to fight him off. It's during this time I suspect he began sexually abusing one of my sisters, who has become a transgender male. People have no idea how traumatizing it is to divulge this abuse, only to be told what was said to me by my mom when at age 12, I finally told her about the abuse. Her response was "get out of here you liar ". This was as devastating as the sexual abuse. This kind of abuse wounds the spirit, soul and mind. It does horrible, horrible damage. I believe these brothers. They had every right to unalive any monster who abused them in this way. If the mother knew, as mine and millions of other mothers do, but turn a blind eye in denial, the mother is just as guilty.

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

I admire you for sharing and truely wish you all the very best

@BUlrich-dw7xi 2 месяца назад

GOD BLESS You!!!❤🙏❤️🌺❤️❤️❤️❤️🌻❤️🙏❤️-SENDING YOU PRAYERS,LOVE,HEALING,STRENGTH,ETC.-GOD BLESS❤🙏❤️

@jesselox3470 2 месяца назад

I hope you and your brother are okay ❤

@betsylaughlin8652 2 месяца назад

I am so deeply sorry that your and your siblings had your innocence stolen by someone who was supposed to love, protect, and respect you. I hope you have found some happiness and peace in this difficult and often cruel or indifferent world. Hugs to you. 🫂

@diane5836 2 месяца назад

Gardner is correct about vigilante behavior HOWEVER, THE rage and hatred, shame and terror are real.

@robertlee8042 2 месяца назад

My neighbor was the tennis instructor for the boys. He said the father was really tough on them. So tough that my neighbor quit and never again trained at clients’ homes.

@Linda-jj1sj 2 месяца назад

Wow that’s very telling. Abuse can be so damaging to a growing child.

@luvbeinghiswife1148 2 месяца назад

Omigoodness, that says alot. Those poor boys didn't stand a chance.💔

@JenGerard Месяц назад

At the first trial a string of tennis and swimming coaches said the same thing

@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Месяц назад

Can your neighbor come forward and help them?

@Hroswitha_R___ Месяц назад

I don't know the situation in USA, but in my country we can go and leave abusers. Start a new life. That's what poor people are doing. But i can imagine it's hard for rich kids to leave all the money. It can make more upset.

@augustusanderson6949 2 месяца назад

If a monster takes away ur innocence as a child u have a right to unalive them in my book!

@mynameisworld Месяц назад

Your book is not the law.

@Mel-oe3dw Месяц назад

👏

@augustusanderson6949 Месяц назад

@@mynameisworld that's y U said in my book, since u commented do u know that feeling of innocence being taken from? Revenge can't explain the word once u get older to plot!

@DeniseLopez-gt9wg Месяц назад

But if those cold blooded killers were so scared then why did they go on a shopping spree they killed for money and their corrupt lawyer made up the lie about being molested

@GastonNeal 27 дней назад

That's not Justice, you could do anything but that. That's the wisdom of the first Godfather. Castration seems reasonable. But you are typical, most people don't know Justice, that's why the Native Americans haven't got theirs and the kidnapped Africans haven't got theirs. You would want Justice, but be the first complaining about reparations.

@Brianesha 3 месяца назад

The fact that some family members said the dad was abusive spoke volumes. There’s no limit to what a person like that can do. If he’s physically abusive to kids what else could he be doing?

@jendee1260 3 месяца назад

sexual abuse. physical is a different story.

@ellaminnow 3 месяца назад

@@jendee1260sexual abuse is physical as well.

@Brianesha 3 месяца назад

@@jendee1260 can you not comprehend? Abuse is abuse. If you’re known to physically abuse people who’s to say you don’t sexually abuse people?

@franciscachesca 3 месяца назад

That's because they both never discussed this during therapy. And because they tried to pay people for fase witness stands.

@Brianesha 3 месяца назад

@@franciscachesca their cousin stated in the first trial they seen abuse. The prosecutor took him off the second trial because of something that had nothing to do with the case. I doubt the cousin was paid to lie.

@SssS9372 3 месяца назад

I'm sorry but the Uncle is just being sentimental and blind to what his sister was part of. Even interviewing him was pointless.

@population-_-420 3 месяца назад

Netflix gonna do monster season two on this

@nbaoldgirl 3 месяца назад

Agreed

@gussygatlin3093 3 месяца назад

Agreed 💯

@leschatsdubalcon3601 3 месяца назад

I agree absolutely - the uncle's mind is closed against his nephews. Also, listening to his cold certitude I couldn't help wondering: with the brothers convicted, who gets the inheritance? Who gets the money?

@debhorne150 3 месяца назад

That's Exactly what I was thinking watching him talk about it.

@jlovelyy 2 месяца назад

I’m so genuinely happy that Roy from Menudo spoke up, Ricky Martin is the most famous of them and brutally abused by these men but he never spoke up, to think he could’ve helped save these brothers also atleast Roy was brave enough too!

@travelingpatti2834 2 месяца назад

Unless you are a victim of abuse you have no idea how hard it is for a victim to speak up. No matter what it costs to others.

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

Hold up. Just because Ricky did not speak up does not mean he was abused by Jose Menendez. There is a timeline difference of when Jose was managing that group and when Ricky joined the music group act. Sometimes predators do not go after the main star because they are too famous or the main star is being abused by someone above Jose's level so Jose might have backed off if Ricky's abuser was Jose's boss, etc. Also, it is Ricky's story to tell when Ricky is ready to since Ricky would have been an abuse victim. Jose was a salaried employee so perhaps they need to investigate Jose's bosses when it comes to Ricky.

@jlovelyy 2 месяца назад

@@travelingpatti2834 first off don't ever assume a person isn't a victim of abuse, and I'm all to familiar with the costs, I get what your saying but stop assuming you know someone from an internet post

@jlovelyy 2 месяца назад

@@cjking4511 I never said he was abused by Jose Menedez but he was definitely abused when he was in Menudo just like Roy was, which was my point, he was seen dressed up as a girl alone in the managers hotel room when he was a little boy, there are plenty of documentaries and reputable sources that you can look into it you wish to, it is his story to tell, just like its my opinion that I wish he would speak up about what happened to him by grown men that ran in the same circles such as his manager and Jose Menendez!

@joanna7350 Месяц назад

I wish he would have spoken up when this was going on. the brothers lost over 30 years of their life.

@michellebohart6662 2 месяца назад

The DA’s office is in such denial!!! They’re never wrong! Such BS!! There was enough in the first trial to know that family was totally dysfunctional all under the father’s control. They’ve served their time for the crime they admitted to.

@zapfilms Месяц назад

"They needed a win". This is a 100% corrupt system.

@RRodriguez-ny6gc 3 месяца назад

This is not surprising… Reason why so many victims do not come forward. The victims are re victimized over and over when they come forward.

@kathywedzik4905 2 месяца назад

👍👍👍

@betsylaughlin8652 2 месяца назад

All of these hideous comments claiming that everyone who testified on behalf of the brothers is lying….really shows you one tiny molecule of the endless tons of abusive, speculative comments from a giant, ignorant peanut gallery. Victims of SA always grapple with shame and feelings of powerless, ESPECIALLY if the abuse has happened from such a young age, and has gone on for such a long time. They were likely psychologically imprisoned bc of years of grooming and conditioning by their primary guardians (really generous word to describe abusers). I may not know what happened, but this be information really vindicates these men.

@acc4465 2 месяца назад

Since they weren’t victims of anything this is irrelevant.

@rebeccav9969 2 месяца назад

yes!

@christinamaiya691 3 месяца назад

It took me 30 years to tell my fren his uncle was abusing me and she said he would do the same to her , it took me whole 30 years to talk about it

@ajf369 2 месяца назад

My heart and soul goes out to every person in the comment section who has fallen victim to predators. May you stand strong and keep shining.. ❤❤❤ Bless you ALL. 1 LOVE ❤️

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

maybe just words, but the thought behind it is important. thanks.

@bethann8891 2 месяца назад

The moms brother is an enabler.

@Libbathegreat 2 месяца назад

I dunno if I'd call him an enabler since I don't see any suggestion he knew about or helped cover up the abuse. However, in light of all the testimony and recent revelations, I do find his utter lack of empathy for what his nephews went through pretty shocking. He's basically pretending it was all made up and never happened because mY pREcIoUS sIStEr WOulD nEVeR 🤦‍♀

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

@@Libbathegreat Well, NEITHER brother testified that the mother was sa them as adults! Erik testified Kitty was addicted to prescription drugs and "out of it" the day they killed her! Lyle testified he discussed killing the parents with Erik days before they killed them. Thus, there is no justification for them killing Kitty Menendez! Whether or not they were abused as children is irrelevant by the law when they killed their parents as adults. That is retaliation NOT self-defense, especially against the mother. The parents were unarmed! There was a stack of college applications next to Kitty that Erik testified she had filled out! Whatever happened to a sa victim just moving on and going to college and moving on with their life? There is no legal justification for retaliation murders. Retaliation is not the right choice and unfortunately the evidence proves the parents were unarmed at the time of abuse and the brothers' testimonies do not provide justification for killing Kitty.

@Libbathegreat 2 месяца назад

@@cjking4511 My understanding here is that the debate is not "should they have gone to prison", it's "how long should they have been in prison". I think it's pretty clear that whether Kitty was "SAing them as adults" or not, she fully knew about the abuse and enabled it. Considering what we know now, they would not have gotten nearly the sentence they did. As for your fairly disgusting comment about "whatever happened to SA victims moving on with their lives", how about "whatever happened to parents not SAing their kids"?

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

@@Libbathegreat You are totally disregarding the laws governing this case. A judge cannot issue a sentence based on your emotions. A judge orders a sentence based on the state’s legal code. My comment was NOT “disgusting.” My comment objectively and maturely described what a sa victim must do according to the law if they want to enjoy their freedom. Retaliation killings never work out in the best interests of the abuse victims. In life it is better to move on, seek therapy, and eventually forgive not for your abuser’s sake but for your own well being.

@Libbathegreat 2 месяца назад

@@cjking4511 In law, there are such things as mitigating circumstances in sentencing. Lifelong SA by one's parents is one such mitigating circumstance. That can even be taken into consideration when your parents aren't the victim. It might not get you very far if the victim was someone other than your parents( your spouse or a randomly targeted person), but even in those cases, a defendant is well within their rights to argue it. And the judge or jury imposing sentence is within their rights to consider it when making their decision. These days I believe it's more likely than not that such consideration would have gotten the brothers a lesser sentence than life. And I stand by your comment being disgusting, because it was.

@carlyriley4144 3 месяца назад

Why are we acting like these things don’t happen? Their family, and cousins knew about it. Stop acting like it’s a big ole surprise

@carlyriley4144 3 месяца назад

They were done with thee abuse, they didn’t care if they went away forever as long as it stopped.. but this day and age they shouldn’t be locked away for life for killing their abusers!!!!

@martymartin6924 2 месяца назад

Set them free

@Linda-jj1sj 2 месяца назад

Can your cousins come forward and speak up?? Or have they already??

@danijacks__ 2 месяца назад

@@Linda-jj1sjone of their cousins who spoke up for erik specifically passed away unfortunately, but one of their older cousins is still living and she has spoke up several times telling the same story never changing

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

@@carlyriley4144Why are they special? If they are freed then they should free the thousands of black youth offenders in prison on life sentences without parole. Most of them also had abusive households

@MyLeftMitten 3 месяца назад

As a former large city police officer, we take EVERY sexual assault allegation seriously, no matter how many years ago it was. I can say it took great pleasure in putting several family assailant in prison. One young man stabbed his father after years of abuse. At 18, his father stopped and turned his attention to his younger brothers. He did what he did to protect them from the same abuse.

@user-sg6sv9oi6i 2 месяца назад

Myleftmitten - My brother savagely had physically assaulted his wife for decades until he finally murdered her. Their adult son, my nephew, walked into my brother's house and beat him until he ended up in the hospital. Many of my family thought this was horrible. I don't see it in the same manner. My nephew snapped and had enough. His beloved mother died a horrendous death after decades of misery. While I don't condone such violent behavior, I empathize with my nephew's lifetime of pain due to his father's alcoholism and wicked violence. Thank you for your candor and for your service as a police officer. It must have been a hell of a career with all you had seen and experienced. Take care. ❤

@black_sheep_nation 2 месяца назад

Break the cycle. Only childhood trauma recovery therapy can do that.

@patriciapayne1274 2 месяца назад

Thank you for speaking up and thank you for your service.

@hellskitchenkritterandfrie3372 2 месяца назад

I don’t think people understand what that type of abuse can do to a person, for their entire lifetime.

@Beth-mi2hf 2 месяца назад

Yeah no not all police officers take sexual assault seriously.ur a fool if u think so

@cindee1794 2 месяца назад

Life without the possibility of parole, but a Manson family murderer walked free last year. Such hypocrisy!

@nicolasimpkins3640 2 месяца назад

Different laws in states

@cindee1794 2 месяца назад

@@nicolasimpkins3640 They're both in California.

@Beth-mi2hf 2 месяца назад

@@nicolasimpkins3640same state

@cjking4511 2 месяца назад

That is NOT relevant because she spent 53 years in CA prison before getting parole! The Menendez brothers have only served around 30 years. The issue with the Menendez brothers is their legal defense NEVER wanted to get onboard with joining the fight for youth offenders sentenced to life in prison without parole getting parole! There are 6,166 youth offenders in CA serving life sentences without parole. The majority are black! The Menendez brothers never wanted to get behind the fight for granting parole to the 6,166 youth offenders and never filed numerous motions for parole for themselves. The woman you are talking about filed for parole 20 times before she was released!

@cindee1794 7 дней назад

@@cjking4511 It IS relevant. The Manson group was originally sentenced to death and their sentences were commuted to life in prison, NOT without the possibility of parole. The Menendez brothers were sentenced to life in prison WITHOUT the possibility of parole. So the examples you are citing are irrelevant.

@pinkworld9384 2 месяца назад

JUSTICE FOR THE ABUSED CHILDREN OF THE WORLD!😭💔🙏

@Samantha-ys2pp 3 месяца назад

Imagine the chances of revealing any abuse with an uncle like that.

@Cove999 3 месяца назад

💯💯

@KatSut1978 3 месяца назад

Exactly what I thought. He cares nothing about the possibility that his sister was complicit in her own children being horrifically abused. She did nothing to protect them. His sister is an Angel in his eyes and that’s being complicit too. The elders in this case are just disgusting human beings.

@toddsmith1969 3 месяца назад

@@KatSut1978 bet those cars took their minds of the "rape" 😂

@DrineThePoet 3 месяца назад

💯

@RobertHenderson.poopiebear 3 месяца назад

@@toddsmith1969I doubt it... They were in an emotional state we cannot understand, and its funny how people don't make jokes like that about the sexual abuse of females. No one would have talked about the money, or them not admitting it right away. It's sad how we are so forgiving of female victims and their behavior but we still blame male victims and make jokes about what they went through...sad.

@PotHead98 2 месяца назад

I was sexually abused most of my childhood by an older male cousin. And I'm a male. I told my multiple family members and no one believed me and they literally acted like they didn't hear me or act like I never told them or that I'm making it up. They still continued to invite that cousin to family functions and that I was at and never ever had my back or said anything about it. I literally feel some days that maybe it didn't happen and maybe I'm making it up in my head. But I know for a fact it happened at have very very vivid memories of it. But still to this day no one believes me or has done anything. And it's one of the main reasons I've had a horrible opioid addiction my whole life and have attempted suicide multiple times. I feel for these brothers and for everyone who was SA by a close family member or by anyone period. 20 years later Im still haunted by it.

@noonoofulable 2 месяца назад

I read your comment. I believe you. What you described about doubting your memory is known as gaslighting. I hope you are doing better and can overcome your addiction. You deserve to live a happier, peaceful life. Suicide is not the answer. You didn't abuse anyone and shouldn't punish yourself. You are innocent. For your own mental well-being it would be best to avoid , if possible, family gatherings where that cousin is likely to be. Also I think it might be beneficial for you if you got some sort of counselling. Best wishes for your future. ❤

@rileyfuckingrifle 2 месяца назад

I don't know if matters at all. I believe you. You didn't deserve that and all those adults failed you.

@FURYWORLDx 2 месяца назад

Thank you for sharing your story.

@virginia3926 2 месяца назад

That's horrible no one believed you. I'm sorry that happened to you

@danceteachermom 2 месяца назад

I'm a woman and I'm 62. This happened to me by someone in my family. I never told anyone until I was 27...I actually "forgot" about it for 15 years. (It's fascinating what the mind can do to protect oneself). But I grew up believing in God and I know that is why I am at peace and have forgiven what happened to me. Jesus forgives me for my sins and I forgive those who have sinned against me. I am FREE! There is a peace beyond understanding and I pray that you would reach out to God and ask Him to help you to heal. It IS possible. Sending love to you my friend. Cynthia ❤️

@gailrenee3166 2 месяца назад

Seeing his hand on the boys crotch is a bod language and part of control. The parents should’ve gone to prison.

@ch-xl3xm 2 месяца назад

Yes i saw that to in the pic.

@hairylilmangoseed1440 Месяц назад

I definitely noticed that too, odd choice of hand placement when posing with your children.

@mah3223alia 27 дней назад

You can't help but notice how strange that is.....

@retpal2302 3 месяца назад

Knowing what we know now about Hollywood and the music industry, this is much more believable.

@carlywright5127 3 месяца назад

Exactly my thought too.

@GummerHummerQueen 3 месяца назад

No particular industry was needed to be outted to know what goes on, it happens across the board

@andreah1104 3 месяца назад

I believe the brothers were abused. Menudo were also abused. One overdosed. Ricky Martin had incestuous relationship with his nephew.... All messed up 😢

@PenitentPenguin 2 месяца назад

Absolutely! Lots of satanists. Sex magik & all that garbage

@mdoyleproductions9358 2 месяца назад

Especially one involved in a boy band...the execs and managers of boy bands have a LOT of skeletons in their closets.

@neondreams4016 3 месяца назад

Being abused by your parents does make you full of rage. It’s indescribable

@ValleyoftheRogue 3 месяца назад

Baloney. These guys were legal adults when they murdered their parents in cold blood. It was all about the money, the inheritance.

@julief634 2 месяца назад

Yep! I call it righteous rage. It's understandable

@neondreams4016 2 месяца назад

@@julief634 the best thing to do if you can is get away from them because they provoke you to anger and then use it to prove your the bad one.

@neondreams4016 2 месяца назад

@@ValleyoftheRogue yea I think that too. They were full of rage & wanted money 💰 and the abuse made it easier to justify it in their heads but none the less abuse makes you full of rage

@PenitentPenguin 2 месяца назад

I was emotionally & physically abused by my mother. A 4 y.o. musical prodigy & bright kid, I quit caring, & trying at age 11, & smoked and stole & cut school. But I never understood WHY. Now, at age 63, I think it was passive-aggressive behavior b/c of my mother's abuse, especially when I was very little. She took me to a psychologist who I lied to b/c I was afraid of what she might do to me. He never did figure it out.

@admin1815 2 месяца назад

It was wrong that they killed their parents BUT living in fear and being tortured your whole life could drive you to it.

@davidlynch9049 2 месяца назад

Right. Grown men who could leave the house and live on their own at anytime were "tortured" OK.

@admin1815 2 месяца назад

@@davidlynch9049 This had been going on throughout their childhood.

@KrisBryant99 24 дня назад

@@admin1815it's he say she say at this point

@rebeccav9969 2 месяца назад

The woman (I think one of the attorneys) speaking against the brothers and partially denying there was ever abuse..... WAS NOT ABUSED herself, so she has no understanding of what it does to a person. She asks, "Why didn't they tell BEFORE?" I was abused sexually as a very young girl. There are threats that come with that abuse. I never told. It only came out when one of my brothers -- out of spite -- told my parents 35 years later, and THAT was the beginning of the break down of our family. I would NEVER have told my parents. In order to protect my PARENTS, not the offender.

@juliamahlke4471 3 месяца назад

Child abuse is so dangerous because it is so invisible. Not being able to see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even doctors can hardly tell, when children are abused, because the predators are usually very careful. And emotional abuse and scaring and manipulating victims also needs to be taken into account. I hope they get justice for what was done to them. I believe them. They have served a huge punishment.

@marygoff3332 3 месяца назад

Agreed. 100%

@meepk633 3 месяца назад

They weren't abused.

@khismet 3 месяца назад

Child Abuse is not invisible. They always glaring red flags if you don't avert your eyes!

@StonedBarbiee 3 месяца назад

Well that’s a lie. Doctors can definitely tell if a child’s being abused. Especially sexually abused. Don’t type such false information like that.

@nerwinter158 3 месяца назад

@@StonedBarbieethat’s very false. Depending on the type of s*x abuse and how severe it is it often doesn’t leave a mark. Touching, forcing the child to do something and so on. It’s not clear cut.

@barbarabreunis7788 3 месяца назад

A lot of family members knew about the abuse by Jose Menendez and the neglect by Kitty Menendez and did nothing out of fear.

@MGS78 3 месяца назад

kitty abused them too.

@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653 3 месяца назад

Fear of what? Smfh it could have been reported anonymously.

@ca8944 3 месяца назад

@@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653 This was the 80’s They wouldn’t have believed them

@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653 3 месяца назад

@@ca8944 bs come on

@NevaX333 3 месяца назад

Yeah I remember being little and seeing stuff on magazines in the stores about the boys lying. Nobody really believed they were abused by that POS. I think they should be released

@danatate8803 2 месяца назад

Sounds like the brothers need to be released. Decades have passed.

@alejandrawalker5045 2 месяца назад

The black woman has NO idea what trauma can do to the mind of any victim specially a child victim.

@gullalaikhanshairani9786 3 месяца назад

How spineless do you have to be to ask a rape victim, did you ask your rapist not to do so? Wtf.

@mariapilarme 2 месяца назад

Exactly like it’s the victim choice to be victimized again and again.

@caitlinmyriah7657 2 месяца назад

The only reason I can think of why they'd ask that, maybe cause they'd try to say "he didn't refuse" or something fkn dumb like that. Other than that, idk. It's definitely an ignorant question, but I'm sure there was a reason for it.

@betsybabf748 2 месяца назад

It is a strange question from a media interviewer, but a necessary question for the record by an attorney during trial.

@el34glo59 2 месяца назад

@@caitlinmyriah7657Exactly. They did it for a reason. To hear the response. Even if it's a scumbag thing to do, there's a reason they asked. And it's not because the lawyer thought they could just stop it.

@AbbyCavapoo24 26 дней назад

It's stupid.

@Gravage 3 месяца назад

The one thing I have learned from watching these videos is that everyone is a 48 hours consultant.

@kendallevans4079 3 месяца назад

Actually, you see a lot of the same "hired guns". Professional witnesses is what they are. Will swear to anything if the price is right.

@Bakoska 3 месяца назад

and most of the time the murders happens in great places, where everyone knows everyone, they do not lock the doors and victim is almost always the nicest person ever...

@fokthewef 3 месяца назад

Except me.. I'm a critique 😂😂

@kendallevans4079 3 месяца назад

@@fokthewef"critic"!......smh

@ChewyThomson 3 месяца назад

What a coincidence, I'm also a 48 Hours consultant.

@luisataylor8089 2 месяца назад

This whole case is just sad. It also depicts how 2 things can be true at the same time

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

insane, like there are two parralel time-lines. yeah, i say let them out of jail.

@sarafuentez4441 2 месяца назад

I feel this is totally credible. My defense against my dad was to push it out of my memory ( it became the way I handled all stress!). I finally needed to see a professional in my late 60s. My fury when I uncovered it was huge. It's a good thing my dad had passed by then.

@opiumeyes2858 3 месяца назад

The old Man saying he never saw anything in their Home. What a BS. So, if you haven´t seen it, it didn´t happen? SMH

@LLynneM 3 месяца назад

Plus, from what was said in the other documentary about the screaming, crying + fighting back that Eric did as he got older, it’s impossible to believe anyone in the house wouldn’t hear it.

@jennifertarin4707 3 месяца назад

@@LLynneMpeople only hear and see what they want to hear and see

@sdeee3842 3 месяца назад

Ikr sad and pathetic 😮

@elainevankat5353 3 месяца назад

Exactly!!!

@elainevankat5353 3 месяца назад

@@jennifertarin4707So true!

@elmira9346 3 месяца назад

There’s a similar case in Russia “Sisters Khachaturyan”, where 3 sisters ages 17,18 and 19 brutally killed their father after years of sexual, physical and emotional abuse by their father. I believe these kids have suffered enough, their lives are ruined by their own parents, and they should not be in jail. Free the Menendez brothers, enough is enough

@carlywright5127 3 месяца назад

Were the girls freed. I hope so.

@keeper6458 3 месяца назад

Agreed

@Vistacraft82 3 месяца назад

That was different. This was greed and hungry for money.

@O___00 2 месяца назад

Sure.. but these two killers are lying.

@Vistacraft82 2 месяца назад

@@O___00 Ofcourse they're lying, they should rot in jail

@sissymontez5589 2 месяца назад

These two guys should not be in prison. They were sexually assaulted, sexually abused, molested, tortured emotionally and mentally by both parents. Let them out, it's not fair to what happened to these guys. I careless about the parents.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

of course, if their side of the story is true, than justice came to both parents.

@carolynrodriguez467 День назад

This makes me think of my mother, who has suffered schizophrenia all her life. It finally came to light that she had been horrifically abused by her father while her mother knew what was happening. My mom just checked out. And for me, now a grown adult, it all makes sense. God Bless her. And God Bless all who had to endure this.

@ruthhase-gutierrez9830 3 месяца назад

So they couldn't get a conviction and decided the solution was to just throw out most of the defense's witnesses? What?!

@brianborstein8456 3 месяца назад

Lyle admitted to asking someone to fabricate stories.

@ruthhase-gutierrez9830 3 месяца назад

@@brianborstein8456 I heard that. That still doesn't tell me why to throw out SO much from the defense.

@brianborstein8456 3 месяца назад

@@ruthhase-gutierrez9830 you heard it because Lyle said so himself. If you're willing to have someone fabricate stories, then what else are you fabricating and/or lying about?

@misskay8131 3 месяца назад

@brianborstein8456 at what time stamp did one of the sons admit to asking people to lie for him, so we can see this, cause ya’ll are just saying anything at this point.

@YourEverydaySheep 3 месяца назад

@@misskay8131 Lyle did ask specific people to lie for him. Those being two of his ex girlfriends and one of Erik's friends. However much of that comes from long before the first trial started and one of them who testified for the prosecution did say that Lyle had called him during the first trial and told him to drop everything. In one of these letters he sent to Erik's friend he insinuates that his lawyers have no idea and that Erik would rat him out and that's exactly what happened. This witness never testified during the first trial because Erik had told his lawyers that the persons story wasn't true. Lyle certainly made some bad decisions while in jail (since he never wanted to talk about the abuse) but that doesn't mean their defense was fabricated. None of those people were ever asked to lie about abuse and if this was such a common thing you'd fully expect to see a whole lot people coming out and saying "Lyle asked me to lie for him" but no one else ever has. You don't have to take him at his word but Lyle has said he only did this prior to agreeing to talk about the abuse himself. According to him, his lawyers and his family he was refusing to testify about the abuse for a very long time.

@Aliwonderful22 3 месяца назад

As someone who’ve gone through that as a child by their own father was shameful. Hatred will consume you. Till now I’m so distant with him. No communication. I always wished I was born with a loving father.

@TheRetroWoman80 3 месяца назад

Sorry you went through this💚

@elainevankat5353 3 месяца назад

If I was abused by my parents… I would never see or speak to them! Sorry for your situation.❤

@lwilson123 3 месяца назад

hope things are better for you from linda in scotland

@lisakay8798 3 месяца назад

And you absolutely deserved a loving father!!! I'm so sorry yours was not. I wish you the very best in this life.

@charlielynn3674 3 месяца назад

Exactly. Stay strong and wish you well, strength, happiness, depth, and healing. You deserve nothing but goodness.

@lynnoserb1228 2 месяца назад

I was sexually abused by my dad.. and he got away with it.. so.. I stand with the brothers.. Men has not rights for sexual abuse.. like women do it's sad

@LatoyaWalker-ku1bc 27 дней назад

He definitely didn't get away with it. Every punishment we don't get today

@ElviaDaiana 2 месяца назад

The fact that their own uncle, is wishing them the death penalty says a lot about this family. Poor guys.

@user-ob7jk6fi4s 2 месяца назад

I still cannot believe it's been over 30 years they have been in prison

@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK 2 месяца назад

I THREW AWAY THE KEY, CRY ON MY SHOULDER

@nicolasimpkins3640 2 месяца назад

Where they belong

@nicolasimpkins3640 2 месяца назад

Where they belong

@melgrant7404 Месяц назад

@@nicolasimpkins3640 nope.

@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Месяц назад

@@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNKthat key may be revoked.

@wolfesound 3 месяца назад

Not witnessing the abuse is not a defense. Abuse, mostly, never has witnesses. Pfff.

@elainevankat5353 3 месяца назад

Thank you! Absolutely true….

@JDmix123 3 месяца назад

See how that doesn’t play well in court

@JDmix123 3 месяца назад

Quite convient

@oceanstaiga5928 3 месяца назад

It’s not a proof that the abuse didn’t happen but it’s certainly a Defense in a court, otherwise anyone could accuse anybody of abuse and get them in jail.

@nicolasdelaforge7420 3 месяца назад

@@oceanstaiga5928and I wonder if that is the reason why the Court and other authorities are so reluctant to accept the charge of abuse.

@julietteyork6293 2 месяца назад

I 100% believe the father sexually abused them and the mother was an enabler.

@saragates2255 Месяц назад

Kitty's brother is floating down the river Denial.

@vanessamonroe1917 3 месяца назад

There’s a man named Clark Fredericks in NJ, who killed the Cub Scout Leader who SAed him. He was let out of prison and is an inspirational speaker. I admire him. He was triggered and prevented other kids from facing the same fate.

@Prometheuspredator 2 месяца назад

I remember him when he was a guest on Soft White Underbelly. His case reminded me of the Mendez brothers.

@OLALALA1019 2 месяца назад

He’s amazing he gives so much helpful advice on dealing with ptsd

@joanna7350 Месяц назад

was he on Oprah? there was a teenager on there being abused by a man and he killed him and only got probation.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

What a world we live in.

@jesselox3470 2 месяца назад

The guy from Menudo that recently accused him of abusing him as well might as well be their ticket to freedom. Hopefully they are freed even if none of them can get justice anymore

@patricialmt5272 2 месяца назад

Why a father would have sex with his own children.? Is so hard to believe for loving normal people. But the reality is these monsters exist.. is hell

@user-fo6bs7wv7o 2 месяца назад

I pray these brothers will blessed by God spiritually.

@jasminemarsden3461 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to shed a tear at my father's funeral too.

@patriciapayne1274 3 месяца назад

I have a friend who was raped repeatedly by her father. She shed no tears at his passing. I get it. I wish for you a happy life moving forward.

@nbaoldgirl 3 месяца назад

I wish you the best. I wouldn’t even grace his de-d body with your amazing presence ❤

@UNKNOWNN713 3 месяца назад

❤❤

@terryellis7692 3 месяца назад

I'm not even going to my parents funerals.

@itzflowers4me 3 месяца назад

@@terryellis7692 Same.

@AlexAndra-iy5zu 3 месяца назад

Every detective “ I’ve never seen a more brutal crime” Every crime scene is most definitely brutal After all someone is ☠️ 😢

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

We are meant to be shocked by that comment I get and agree with your point Most of them will only ever get to see one scene like this if they ever see any at all That why we see so many crime scenes get messed up - novices to the experience It will always be the most brutal thing they’ve ever seen especially if they have literally nothing else to compare it with Its a comment that has no value other than to the one making it

@ericas2423 2 месяца назад

They did their time. Let them out!!!

@ItsUhPigeon 2 месяца назад

BELIEVE IT OR NOT..My grandma is actually a cousin of Kitty, the mother killed by the Menendez Brothers and met and knew kitty pretty well. Were from Illinois where Kitty was originally from and got her education. I don't recall her telling me about meeting them, but I guess technically I'm related to them as well? This happened before I was born but all my life my grandma has refused to watch anything related to the Menendez brothers.

@2KMMC2 3 месяца назад

The house keeper testified that the dad who put on really inappropriate things on tv for shock value.

@tainoaquarian8320 3 месяца назад

Yes, all part of conditioning, grooming.

@mikieanthony777 3 месяца назад

Flora, the maid, said nothing like that. What you smoking?

@charlielynn3674 3 месяца назад

Ugh.

@Laylnizzl 3 месяца назад

@@mikieanthony777they could be talking about their family friend. Alicia Hertz. She said at a dinner their father put a very inappropriate video involving children🤮also Kitty’s sister, Joan, found an inappropriate vhs tape as well

@mikieanthony777 3 месяца назад

@@Laylnizzl Alicia said they showed movies which she thought were too mature for the brothers. She didn't say " very inappropriate "

@cyndivancil402 3 месяца назад

People that have never gone through sexual abuse have no clue at all where your mind goes & the impact it has on a person, especially from the time if said person was being abused since a child..

@claroquenolescreo6025 Месяц назад

They deserve a new trial.

@ginaqueirolo1380 2 месяца назад

Justice for sexual abuse victims needs to happen. Many men are victims and they dont speak up out of fear. Sexual abuse mostly happened whitin the family or friends. Please look after your kids always!!!

@christinamccall6450 3 месяца назад

As a child abused by a narcissistic mother my whole life, I felt nothing when she died but relief, freedom, and that I could finally live my life without this hanging over my head. I was far more devastated by the loss of my cat in the same year. Thank God for my loving, normal dad. Not odd at all except to the lucky people who have never endured this sort of thing.

@charlielynn3674 3 месяца назад

I hear ya loud and clear. Sorry for your childhood pain. I'm happy you are able to put yourself first and priorities straight. Well done.

@piscesempress1978 3 месяца назад

im so sorry you hadto endure that pain. I look forward to the day my father passes.

@r.williamcomm7693 2 месяца назад

Feel bad for real victims but these guys are liars. They were adults who wanted to set up what looked like a mafia killing to get the huge estate. They never told therapists. A bunch of ppl want to get the parents’ multimillion dollar estate & they’ve been scheming for decades to get it. One brother went to a therapist & never mentioned the accusations. One isn’t testifying because he’s already run his mouth about the truth. They’re an insult to real victims.

@zoegirl2948 2 месяца назад

@@piscesempress1978 My prayer is that God will embrace you and that your pain will end soon. No child should endure emotional and physical pain inflicted by a father.

@BS-dq1kz 2 месяца назад

I’m sorry. I also do understand.

@Wizznilliam 3 месяца назад

I remember this probably being the biggest trial story pre OJ.

@jennifertarin4707 3 месяца назад

I remember vaguely about this. I remember the news talking about the brothers and how my then best friend thought that they were cute. As a victim of sexual assault and rapeyself from 6-18, I can absolutely understand the fear that they had and their actions afterwards are like a relief.

@user-mv7kh5sv9z 3 месяца назад

I think they were lying back then and I still think they are lying today. The 'abuse card' is all they had left

@tasha6954 3 месяца назад

Actually the second trial was after OJ got off! That's one of the reasons the D.A. was hell bent on putting these boys away!

@Wizznilliam 3 месяца назад

@@tasha6954 Good point... Rich people getting off easy was not very popular at that moment

@straight.no.chaser1708 3 месяца назад

Why do you think they lied?

@black_sheep_nation 2 месяца назад

Considering up to 60% of us have gone through degrees of childhood trauma, of course, they were abused. Something broke in their brains. It happened with Lizzy Borden. They also murdered their parents. Two things can be true. I also don't believe they are a danger to society. But they shouldn't have children. Unless they undergo extensive childhood trauma therapy beforehand. However, our society is much too archaic to absorb those concepts. We're a shame, and blame-based nation.

@whooplife9785 2 месяца назад

Once an DA, always a DA. The quickest conviction is the best.

@HB.13 3 месяца назад

"Did you ask not to" The justice system expects a 6 year old CHILD to understand what was happening to them that too by their own Father. A Father whose responsibility was protect his boys not freaking RAPE them. I pray the ruling takes place soon and they both are set free to live their remaining lives with their respective wives in peace.

@charlielynn3674 3 месяца назад

YES!

@janetmoquin7828 2 месяца назад

It's time for them to come home. How often are victims prosecuted? Even once is too much. Now let these men go!

@21m455 2 месяца назад

I was 3 and I said no I didn't want to

@Cuckoo_Lane 2 месяца назад

Victim blaming ran strong back then.

@BS-dq1kz 2 месяца назад

@@21m455Well that’s great. Some children have more fear of their abuser than you obviously did. Some are way too scared to speak up. Besides, many sickos who would go to such lengths to fulfill their twisted desires don’t care about a simple “No.” from a little child. That won’t deter them.

@MP-gm5gg 3 месяца назад

The letter is legit. They've served their time. Release them

@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK 3 месяца назад

@americancrimejournal 3 месяца назад

Only if they can stay at your house with your kids.

@rhodacruz201 3 месяца назад

Legit letter? A joke.

@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK 3 месяца назад

@@rhodacruz201 BS LETTER MORE LIKE IT

@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK 3 месяца назад

@@rhodacruz201 BS LETTER MORE LIKE IT

@user-fo6bs7wv7o 2 месяца назад

What is wrong with this attorney. The abuse is danger enough.

@ritamelendez2998 2 месяца назад

This is so sad , even with witnesses saying they were abused . What

@user-tc4tk9mo6t 2 месяца назад

The uncle most likely inherited his sisters estate and doesn't want to have to return the money to the brothers... They never should have been sent to prison, their entire lives were filled with horrific abuse.

@ruthcassidy6052 2 месяца назад

There was no money left - the killer sons spent it all, either on their spending sprees or for their defenses.

@crimeandcrafting 2 месяца назад

This is the grossest thing I’ve read today

@nicolasimpkins3640 2 месяца назад

They should never be released

@marinahuizar6067 25 дней назад

they did not inherit nearly as much money as they thought they would, only $5.7 millioon between the two of them, there were mortgages on both their houses

@ale7564 3 месяца назад

I don’t know the truths in this case, but I do know that abuse changes a person’s mental state and thinking. The former prosecutor kept saying what a rational person would do, but can people who have lived with years and years and years of abuse be rational?

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

Totally agree

@commonsense571 2 месяца назад

Thank you. Succinctly and we’ll said❤

@galaxysurfer1122 2 месяца назад

Originally I probably suspected what the jury thought , and I, too, didn't believe their 'lies'. But now, honestly after seeing this, I've changed my mind. What they did was still horrific, but now I know why it could have happened and is therefore far more understandable. Not right, but understandable. I also now believe that they were telling the truth about the SA. Even when I was their age, (18-21) and even though I was also technically classed as an adult, I would have had no clue how to have left that situation and somehow manage to live away from my parents. The idea would have terrified me. I think they've done their time, and should be released.

@resistresist1811 Месяц назад

In no way do i feel these brothers are a threat to society. Free them.

@blue8710 3 месяца назад

The silence of a mother who knows about her children's sexual abuse at the hands of the father is nothing less than dramatic.

@TheRetroWoman80 3 месяца назад

Marilyn Van Derber's mother was one of the worst yet.

@Erica-qb6tk 3 месяца назад

If she knew and did nothing like it appears she’s just as bad as her husband

@sheridan1887 3 месяца назад

She was evil and diabolical. She will be in torments forever.

@herokillerinc 3 месяца назад

It is absolutely less than dramatic..... it is foul and disgusting

@VioletJoy 3 месяца назад

It's way past time that the spouses are held accountable for their part.

@zay6805 3 месяца назад

I have found my self in a similar position where I defended a family member who was accused of sexual molestation only to catch the person doing the same thing to a different person a decade later. Just because you love and trust someone does not make them incapable of committing a henious crime. I have since learned to never dismiss the words of a victim but to rather investigate.

@RobGa66 2 месяца назад

Erik and Lyle are said to have been ‘spoiled, rich Beverly Hills kids’, but they didn’t grow up there. They moved there in 1986.

@krististevens54322 24 дня назад

This case makes me so mad. I believe the brothers AND ALL of the relatives NOT the prosecutors who claim the abuse never happened. And I disagree that "just because someone abused you, you shouldn't k*ll them." Oh really? According to the law, yeah, but I wouldn't blame a victim one single ounce if they took out their abuser.

@erikaxchristine 3 месяца назад

Abusers families will always stick up for their own.

@TheRetroWoman80 3 месяца назад

And that just irks me. Everybody shows a different face to different people. The brother never once said anything logical like "I can only speak to what I know of my sister. I cannot speak on how she was in her home because I wasn't always there." I don't care if you are family. I will not embellish and/or lie about you, especially if I know your true character is ugly.

@elainevankat5353 3 месяца назад

@@TheRetroWoman80So true! The brother makes me sick!😖

@Monalisa0622 3 месяца назад

Most of the time yes

@kushmob4208 3 месяца назад

whats up erika? your cat looks like the one my niece has at my mothers, i suppose you're a cat woman? my mother would have had damn near a whole litter of cats but 2 had passed away and another 1 or 2 ran off

@erikaxchristine 3 месяца назад

@@kushmob4208 Aw that is something! My girls name is Pepper. Was she a Tortie or Tortoiseshell? yes I am an animal lover but right now all I have is her. ❤️ She’s my bestie.

@marissasimas9258 3 месяца назад

If this happened today, it would have been a completely different trial and ending.

@wolf44875 2 месяца назад

@@Go-goGranny_70facts

@purplelove3666 2 месяца назад

I wonder if it would be different

@davidlynch9049 2 месяца назад

No. There is no evidence whatsoever that they were abused.

@crimeandcrafting 2 месяца назад

Not likely

@thephantommarauder7748 26 дней назад

"He's not the type of person to grape someone." Oh a Hollywood producer isn't that kind of person? Right...

@ariesfairie11 3 месяца назад

Some of you have never been SA'd by someone who was supposed to protect you and it shows.

@toddsmith1969 3 месяца назад

You just don't know how to tell a liar. It shows

@narmel8165 3 месяца назад

People don't know anything about SA but still talking about the thing they didn't even endure. That pisses me of

@narmel8165 3 месяца назад

@@toddsmith1969 how can you be so sure about that, how? What if it's true and they didn't lie? You are accusing them without the knowledge.

@toddsmith1969 3 месяца назад

@@narmel8165 if they hated him so much, why take his money? I want nothing to do with my abuser.

@narmel8165 3 месяца назад

@@toddsmith1969 I don't know about the money part, but I can never say they are liars. I always think what if..

@laraoneal7284 3 месяца назад

Children are never believed same with adult survivors of childhood trauma. It’s disgusting.

@cherelled6419 3 месяца назад

Agreed! And however they respond is always wrong: they didnt talk, or didn't talk early enough, or didn't tell the right person or didnt say it the 'correct' way or behaved irrationality or not irrational enough. And people wonder why folks just keep these things locked up inside.

@OLALALA1019 2 месяца назад

@@cherelled6419exactly

@hazelfelix3832 2 месяца назад

The former DA is just closed minded

@user-oo1un7qw2q Месяц назад

Former DA Ms. Lacy seems to have a very strong opinion about the intentional, premeditated acts of these men. What makes her qualified to give such an opinion. It certainly isn't evidence-based. While you "CANT condone vigilantism" you absolutely CAN establish pretty clearly that there was sufficient evidence to support the fact that these two boys were severely abused for their entire lives and lived in constant fear. Unless you've endured this kind of trauma yourself you cannot possibly imagine the damage it does to a persons mental health, development and cognitive function. Let them out for Christ sake. Their entire lives have been completely destroyed through no fault of their own. Let them reclaim SOME joy. Talk about cruel and unusual....disgusting.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

If they had OJ's defence team they would have walked free - guaranteed.

@MiracleFound 3 месяца назад

There were other young men who also reported that he had molested them. I believe the boys. Their responses are so typical of having been molested. The shame and embarrassment will do it every time. They didn't want anyone to know. That is also why they didn't mention it immediately. I would be suspicious if they had been talking about it to everyone, that would be atypical behavior.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

sigh, the labyrinthian layers of psychology, true psychology.

@2KMMC2 3 месяца назад

Them being removed from the will and the dad saying we all make choices (brothers names) and you made yours to me proves that the dad was showing his retaliation.

@k00ki3izkrazy Месяц назад

The type of rage someone can feel after SA is something only people who have endured it can understand. Especially if it happened to someone as a child when you finally realize or understand what happened it’s enough to break anyone. I’m not surprised they were over it and snapped.

@candirenner3453 2 месяца назад

I really feel like they have served enough time. Give them a chance to live whatever life they have left. They deserve a second chance.

@ShanaKendle 3 месяца назад

You got to love those people who say" I never seen anything going on to convince me that there was anything like that happening". You really think that you're going to go over to somebody's house that's accused of the above mentioned and they're going to just do it right out in front of you!??! because you know it's just normal behavior?? no really that's the most ignorant response to me ever.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

i have to say a high powered defence would make your point 100%. so the defence should convince the jury to have a neutral eye to the evidence and not pre-judge it. in fact, one argument is " What sane person(s) would even do what they did? "

@vanessamonroe1917 3 месяца назад

Jose was a Monster and Kitty was a pathetic excuse of a “mother”, who didn’t protect her sons! 🤮

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

They know how to pick their partners Compliance is a must Who knows what coercive abuses she was subjected to as well

@constancedenchy9801 2 месяца назад

They didn't deserve to the deaths they were given

@firehorse2008 2 месяца назад

@@constancedenchy9801You have no idea.

@ericas2423 2 месяца назад

@@constancedenchy9801 they absolutely did

@Teenagebeluga 25 дней назад

@@constancedenchy9801they sure did

@murrismiller2312 2 месяца назад

the uncle didnt live thru the rape

@jaguarpaw4632 2 месяца назад

If the father told him he wouldn't fill his shoes, it is a giveaway for abuse.

@violinda. Месяц назад

And the son announcing he was wearing them, IMHO, feels like confirmation he was abused, but felt relieved it was over. To me, if they'd killed for money, he wouldn't have said that at the funeral.

@patriciamckeon4650 3 месяца назад

The fact that the jury discarded the statements of sexual abuse by Family members, was the injustice here!!

@Fonoyb 2 месяца назад

And should be enough for a Retrial. The Men have had their lives ruined. Freedom would be difficult after all that's happened. But they deserve it!

@louisejeffries7155 2 месяца назад

It wasn’t the jury It was withheld by the judge when Eric refused to stand in public and be humiliated and shamed disregarded and disbelieved yet again

@user-sh3wi7mv2d 2 месяца назад

it was not credible

@ajf369 2 месяца назад

It's circumstantial. no proof with there being conflicting interest connected to the statements and the family members on trial... as wrong as it is..

@rebeccav9969 2 месяца назад

@@louisejeffries7155 It was Lyle who didn't testify the second time. Not Eric. And that's exactly MY thought! He really suffered during his first trial testimony.

@macolga100 3 месяца назад

"the molestation wasnt happening then" is such a sick thing to say

@mdoyleproductions9358 2 месяца назад

Yeah, she acts like the abuse was just like a headache that comes and goes. If you don't have a headache at the moment, you have no reason the complain. So weird to say that.

@kimmyfreak200 2 месяца назад

that bothered me immensely

@kimmyfreak200 2 месяца назад

18:58 alot of thought...ok so why did the brothers drive around los angeles in bloody clothes with the weapons...imagine if they got pulled over for speeding or a tail light out or something trivial...if it was super planned why did their alibi for the movie fall apart...if they worked this all out in advance..why not bring a change of clothes before leaving the home after the shootings or change at the home...has she thought this through? i have.

@terrenceolivido741 14 дней назад

the correct plea was ... criminal-insanity ? i agree with you, the act itself was insane. i can only hope that if they had a wise and sympathetic family member - like a therapist - they could talk too, they might have had a life. assuming the abuse was true - they were indeed the victims and the parents got their just desserts.