The Messed Up Origins™ of Tyr, God of War | Norse Mythology Explained

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@loneronin6813 Год назад

The saddest part to me about Tyr and Fenrir is that in the version I've heard the two of them were very close friends in a man's best friend kind of way. I think that just makes it all the more tragic that Tyr had to betray Fenrir.

@JonSolo Год назад

their relationship is never described in the actual texts, but it's easy to imagine that Tyr being the only one who fed Fenrir led to them developing a special bond

@loneronin6813 Год назад

@@JonSolo Yeah I had a feeling what I heard wasn't exactly accurate lol Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my comment and for the work you do on this platform. I hope you have a wonderful holiday! :D

@23traves 13 дней назад

@@JonSolo Hey Jon Solo, I really really like this video! However, there was one theory that I did run into that has me all sorts of confused, and I can't seem to find it's source anywhere. It states that Hodur, the Aesir God of Darkness and Winter, is considered to be the same god as Ullr, the Aesir God of Winter and the Hunt and husband to Skadi. Is there anyway you could explain this to me, and help me find the source of that Theory so I can get a better look at it? My reason is that I'm writing a Fanfiction on Norse Mythology to give Hodur some more love, and his theory, while crazy, is something I could use if I get more information and evidence on it.

@magnus2292 Год назад

I can’t wait for when Jon does a Ragnarok video, it’ll be insane

@imalexbojorquez Год назад

Dude I’m so looking forward to it

@julianvdr8808 Год назад

He gave this comment a heart.... You working on something, Jon?

@ossiehilliard2129 Год назад

Greatest content to watch when your bored. Entertaining and informational

@dogs19 Год назад

😮🎉😢😢😢h

@catandogclone7880 Год назад

I’m pretty sad that Tyr gets almost nothing in media in general. In Marvel he’s a blink and you miss him who barely appears (comic and movie wise from what I’ve read) and in God of War I’m interested in where they go with him, perhaps he will gain more of a warriors spirit and be involved in a fight with Atreus and Fenrir which will result in his hand being lost.

@Fincarn5 Год назад

Actually depends on where you look, I have found Tyr is one of the most respected gods in other media. As far as video games goes in Warcraft lore he is a "Watcher" (for practical purposes a demigod) that lost one hand figthing a great evil. While within his powers to restore his hand, he chose to wear a prostetic made of silver, to teach the then nacent human civilization the value of self sacrifice in pursuit of justice. It's in his honor that the human order of paladins is named the Knights of the silver hand. Meanwhile in Dungeons and Dragons he is a greater deity (someone in the tiear as Odin), generally asociated with the Lawful Good alignment and along with Torm (a champion of Tyr that ascended to godhood) and Ilmanter (the god of martyrs) they form the triad. One of the most important divine alliances on the side of good.

@catandogclone7880 Год назад

@@calcan7865 not really.

@catandogclone7880 Год назад

@@calcan7865 that doesn’t make him the equivalent to Tyr in modern mainstream, especially when that’s a singular iteration of the character.

@catandogclone7880 Год назад

@@calcan7865 Tyr doesn’t fight Fenrir during Ragnarok, he fights the guard dog of hel called Garm and dies to him. Hulk doesn’t fight a wolf named Garm and he doesn’t even die to Fenris (MCU equivalent)

@catandogclone7880 Год назад

@@Fincarn5 ah ok, that’s interesting then. I’m not into Warcraft or DND so I didn’t know he was so respected in these, thanks for the info mate.

@NebMunb Год назад

The only way Týrs' interest as a character is undercut by Kratos is because we've been with Kratos for 18 years. That made it easy for the writers to seamlessly and subtly combine Kratos' story with the actual mythical Týr.

@acemarvel1564 Год назад

Tyr's origin is a veil of mystery within origins that pre dates the days of Odin's rule I believe he simply came as the sign of hope and humanity when conflict is inevitable, the time he tried to reason Fenrir with trust was a moment of truth even after his hand was bitten of In the wielder of Tyrfing the war slayer we trust

@glitcheremily8994 Год назад

Fun fact for anyone. The guy that voices Tyr in God Of War (Ben Prendergast) also voiced Patroclus in the game Hades. But he mainly know for Fuse in Apex Legends. I also know he voice a character in one of the recent Lego Star Wars games if I am correct. Ben Prendergast is a very sweet guy. I got some sign posters from the dude and is one of the coolest voice actors out their.

@magnus2292 Год назад

Always a good day when Jon uploads a mythology video

@jannivinlv3766 Год назад

I live near by a Lake i Denmark called “Tissø” means the Lake of Tyr. The vikings sacrificed to tyr in the Lake. He was an importen good.

@Persona3Yukari Год назад

It's kinda disappointing because we can't see Tyr fighting.. I want to see him fighting together with Kratos

@raiderking7310 Год назад

Well he is too peaceful from that stuff

@mrjoda1118 Год назад

@@raiderking7310 Oh you are in for a ride

@TrippyDaHippie409 Год назад

@@raiderking7310 it’s Odin

@megamanbrandon Год назад

This would be a good time to drop a Atreus DLC where Tyr ends up fighting with him against a foe.

@mightylion6432 Год назад

@@megamanbrandon no

@chielvandenberg8190 Год назад

Messed up origins of Freyr/Freya would be interesting, there is probably enough info in the sources (have read the prose Edda)

@valentai_777 Год назад

I’ve been waiting on a solid answer to Tyrs parentage for a while now. I always figured they were random Aesir. Also, the parallels between him and Odin are super crazy. Maybe they were actually the same person at one point in time and had they’re identities split up

@GrimmShadowsII Год назад

I commented something similar then saw your comment. Do Tyr and Odin ever appear in the same myth, and by name.

@ibeatthewitcher3777 Год назад

Well, there is actually a theory that due to Tyr’s (I believe it was some form of Germanic) name he was originally the highest god in proto-Scandinavia. However there is no other evidence for this besides his name so it is unlikely.

@durrangodsgrief6503 Год назад

@@Sienisota son then odin murdered his own son then framed and killed his other son wow

@HoneyBeeFlanzman Год назад

Really appreciate you going through entire mythos. Can't wait for you to hit other continents!

@arturotorres5663 Год назад

LOL when you said the iconic 3 last words Gunther looked to the side and was like ok ok are we done?? 😂😂😂

@danielleaustin2292 Год назад

Gunther has impeccable timing, as always. 👌

@JonSolo Год назад

it's honestly kind of crazy

@Z3nHolEminD Год назад

Mars & Tyre = Mars + Tyre = Martyr ( war , war )

@TitularHeroine Год назад

That's really interesting... Thanks!!

@0shitsandgiggles0 Месяц назад

this is not true, the word “martyr” comes from the greek “μάρτυρας” or “martyras” which was the word for “witness” in the greek legal system, and then latinized by the romans and adopted by the germanic languages. interestingly enough, the norse language developed its own term “pislarvattr”, meaning “torture-witness”, because the norse are always metal af

@adonijahmorningstar493 Год назад

Northernwest Semitic dialect languages, the meaning of "El" is "the god" is reserved primarily for the King god of any given pantheon. Most people confuse it with the Hebrew word "el" which means "god", "diety" and "divine." Interesting note is that in Koine Greek, it also has two words that distinctly differ theos "god", "diety" or "divine" from Ho-Theos/Theon "the god" or in English "God." It's also where the Muslims get their word Allah ("the God") from as they also speak a Northwest Semitic dialect, along with the Amorite/Urgurits, Syrian/Arameans, Akkadians, Canaanites/Phoenicians and Assyrians/Chaldeans.

@cyberfiretiger5825 Год назад

I kid you not… Right before you said that fact about Tuesday I was running that in my head… and boom, you affirmed it.

@DEV-gz2eu Год назад

Alright cool, more Norse videos coming up. Always good to see more folklore about this culture, especially from Jon Solo. But that also means we are probalbly going through another Christmas without Jon explaining the Messed Up Origins of the Nutcracker and the Mouse King. But I guess we will have to wait and see if he ever does that one day. Another good origins video.

@JonSolo Год назад

Hey thanks Dev! I've got some holiday content planned as well. Unfortunately not the subjects you mentioned, but those have been requested quite a bit. I'll prioritize them for next year :)

@Bedwetter4lyfe Год назад

Hey Jon, just finished a Norse Mythology book. It has a lot of great stories such as how many got their most prized possessions ( such as thors hammer) It is norse mythology by Neil Gaiman

@insydian Год назад

Great book!

@larrydarnellrembertiii6258 Год назад

I've been wanting to read that

@yensid4294 Год назад

Tyr was also associated with justice & honor. Where Odin was a trickster/deceiver similar to Loki, Tyr losing his hand was indicative of how important oath keeping was in a society that had no formal contract law/legal system. Your word was your bond & not to be given lightly.

@SoranotRoxas Год назад

You can tell me about *Tyr* all you want, but nothing could of prepared me for that twist in *GOW: Ragnarök* 😔

@JonSolo Год назад

Thanks for watching, mere mortals! Be sure to subscribe for more God of War + mythology content! And tell me, what'd you think of Tyr? » watch me play God of War: Ragnarok ru-vid.com/group/PL9QtT_u7JDM-7DAv6Mvvd4jCSBZlQEZ3p «

@benvinar2876 Год назад

Tyranny. Just throwing that out there. And heimer drinking piss made me think of hymen. Lol 😂 thats just a wild speculation

@frankd4581 Год назад

Please make a video about the origins of all of the different types of legendary Santa Claus figures that represent all of the holidays of the countries of the world that all take place in the month of December please

@bobbitchin923 Год назад

Hey Jon, any chance you’re going to start getting into Egyptian or Celtic mythos? The Egyptian ones can get pretty crazy, I think people would be pretty shocked.

@pierrebuieii3908 Год назад

Trust me I’m waiting for that I know some of the Egyptian gods it is crazy but Jon may make it crazier than I know lol 😂

@TotallySquirrel Год назад

Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed learning more about Tyr. Was sorely disappointed about the lack of content with him in GOW: Ragnarok given what we learn of him in the first game.

@wordforger Год назад

OMG Thank you. The myth about Tyr losing his hand has fascinated me since I first heard it, but I'm curious to know more.

@TitularHeroine Год назад

Thanks as always, Jon; I'd forgotten a lot of this and your storytelling is engaging! I've been meaning to ask, what are your thoughts on Sturlusson's introduction to his text? I think, even in translations, it reads as though Sturlusson just made it up as he went along, and not as a recording of the myths that followed. I'm guessing he created that part as a sort of insurance, as the times they were a-changin' and his whole political and religious system had been upended.

@athenvillegas6923 Год назад

Would have been too OP to have Tyr and Kratos fight alongside against Odin

@thememelord7654 Год назад

I’ve been waiting for this episode ever since you announced it on stream

@gravy7861_ Год назад

I really enjoyed your live stream the other day. I hope you can do more of them

@MatalicSoldier Год назад

Excellent video as always can’t wait for more!

@theindiankid5852 Год назад

Ik he wasn't in the game but can you please talk about hermod the swift

@frankd4581 Год назад

Please make a video about the origins of the different types of Santa Claus figures from all the Different holidays of all the countries of the world that take place in December please

@lazarus8018 Год назад

Loki woke up, got hammered and chose violence.

@Elysia63 Год назад

Hey Jon! I was thinking if you could do a *messed-up origin* for The Nutcracker story during the Christmas season!

@coreywomack18 Год назад

Happy New years Jon solo!!!! Thank you once again for this content

@aSUGAaddiction Год назад

Thanks for this. I wasn't aware of him until the GOWR game. I'm excited to learn about Tyr. Thanks for the video!

@king1368 Год назад

0:48 i’m putting the like on this video because not only you’re doing the job that you’re doing right now but I asked if you play the game which is awesome because I play the game too and the game is awesome as hell. I love the game it was hard even when I had it on balance normal mode. It was hard, but it was awesome and I loved it and I’m like in this video not only because you’re doing your job on the Don the game and the north of a dog Ology story, but you play the game as well and I respect both.

@timesthree5757 Год назад

Tyr was also the law giver.

@yensid4294 Год назад

Pretty sure Jackson Crawford was a consultant scholar on the God of War game. His channel is a really good resource for historical/literary expertise regarding Norse Myth (he has authored translations of the eddas in a published book) & Viking Culture. He also has livestream interviews with other academics who specialize in diff ancient/iron age cultures/myth/languages. I'm not really into videogames but God of War & Assassin's Creed both look incredible in terms of visual design, aesthetics & lore. I've always been curious about them. Really enjoying your Norse Myth videos & love the hoodie you're wearing 🐺🐍

@aligamerable Год назад

He only worked at AC Valhalla.

@mercurial_maddy Год назад

I'm actually kind of impressed that you brought up the PIE connection. I was a little skeptical when I saw the episode drop that you were going to stick with just the direct mythology.

@tyraaudlehelm9780 Год назад

Tyr has always been my go to to explain his name is pronounced because no one ever says it right when they read it.

@finnie4394 Год назад

Now do Sindri (Eitri) and Brok

@comicbooknerd4114 Год назад

Man I'm glad I had notifications on.

@JonSolo Год назад

thanks for that :)

@Saucy_is_strange Год назад

god of war twist of tyr was amzing

@erinrising2799 Год назад

had to wait until my husband was asleep to watch, he hasn't played the game yet and doesn't want spoilers

@iamcoolalot Год назад

another great video! love how your videos are usually relevant to pop culture at the moment.

@codeypendent1899 Год назад

Bro where did you get that hoody? Damn i can't watch yet im still playing. I will be back!

@Swedeinaboonie Год назад

I follow tyr the most when it comes to the norse gods. Hail the justice god

@greyworld6242 Год назад

Hope we get a video on the Norns in the future.

@maeve_a Год назад

Awesome reference to the days of the week named for the gods... How about a full video about the various names of the days and how they connect? Then you can add Friday, too. Or...did you already do one and I haven't found it? 🤔

@marcushailey8498 Год назад

Solo has some awesome content!!!

@alejandromorales3010 Год назад

Tyyyy I’ve been waiting for a another mythology video

@bronchitis1564 Год назад

Out of all 5 star reviews there was one 1 star review complaining about things that made no sense but I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thought this was one of the best games I’ve ever played.

@junebrumbeloe6939 Год назад

I really can't wait to find out more about Mimir. I just love his smart mouth. Lol

@netrathelibra Год назад

Love the Prince reference on the artist formerly known as... Plus Valhalla explained how Tyr lost him arm too

@akamanah3752 Год назад

Just finished the American God and I loved that big reveal it sucks they didn't continue because I had a lot of cool characters

@olesoulsniping6180 Год назад

Dude I appreciate everything's you've been doing man, ignore any haters you've informed and changed so many loves! Keep it up!!

@BarbiexxxDoll Год назад

I couldn't help but ignore my eyes when I read "ignore any haters" jon literally does nothing but inform.....so that was very unnecessary to say...weirdo.

@n1s2e Год назад

i want a ymir Myhology video and hope that seeing how they named him quickly in ragnarok

@omniscientbeing4224 Год назад

great videos Jon. I was wondering what sound bite or song did you use for the chapter intros? it sounds like a chant and I dig it haha.

@Morgoth420 Год назад

Babe wake up Jon Solo posted a new video....❤

@l.kingdon4531 Год назад

Appreciate the spoiler alert. I'll watch this once I complete the game. Thanks for the awesome content though!

@matthewthebarge8433 Год назад

I need more God of War Ragnarok analysis with the mythos. It's so cool to see the inspiration.

@pollywogapocalypse7432 Год назад

If Tyr’s name means god then isn’t it possible he was once simply called god and the story was just given to Oden once all the gods were given names with time? I’d imagine the story probably was kept simple intentionally. Personally I see their similar stories too obvious to ignore. Both are wise and brave and lose parts of their body and both die from a wolf when the world ends. Sounds too symbolic and perhaps those concepts are what it lost during end times? I always imagined this final battle is more symbolic of the fall of mankind rather then the fall of the gods.

@Noname-iz9uo Год назад

Oden 😂 (laugh in Japanese)

@AnantaNow Год назад

It is sad there weren’t more texts before Christianity. Weren’t those Eddaes also altered or influenced by Christians? I agree that Tyr’s bravery was portrayed well in the Fenrir story. He knew what would happen but still did it. The origin of Odin and possible relation to the Wild hunt is fascinating too.

@dexterchoy7756 Год назад

He raised the giant wolf like his own son, he knew Fenrir better.

@KERRYPIKE Год назад

Norse mythology is very incredible to learn about.

@monkeytron5061 Год назад

You’re really good at this

@shadowking9739 Год назад

"Tyr is a guiding star; well does it keep faith with princes; it is ever on its course over the mists of night and never fails"-Anglo-Saxon rune poem This poem resonates with me as it presents Tyr as a worthwhile companion that will always come to one's aid if asked

@Epsilon-01 Год назад

Here's another fun fact about the god of war and justice, he had a sword made by the Dwarves, it was unbreakable and could cut anything, but it was cursed so that every time it was unsheathed it could not be put away until it had tasted blood, and Tyrfing was its name.

@Preussenpenner Год назад

Wich would give reason to why depicting Týr as a pacifist makes sense in Gow, we encounter these gods seasoned and old.

@Epsilon-01 Год назад

@@Preussenpenner Huh, never thought of that interpretation, though, I think the Dwarves gave Tyr the sword because he would be the most responsible. Either way, that's a good perspective.

@darryljohnson879 Год назад

Solo you are the greatest RU-vidr every

@Silverserri Год назад

Jon: "And don't forget: Jon shot first." Gunther: Mlems and looks away. Audience: "Does Gunther know something we don't?"

@toreythomas7312 Год назад

Big fan Jon, question for you. How many fingers have you broken?

@jam281977 Год назад

Dam those spoilers came In 🔥😭😂 love your videos o will wait a bit later to watch

@Kaylibzgraipz Год назад

Great job!...fun way to learn about this stuff I got alot out of that

@emberhydra7621 Год назад

I would love to learn more about Norse mythos. But don't know where I can find books that covers a lot of the old mythos and sources

@shermf2986 Год назад

Gunther is a scene stealer! ❤

@brandonwithnell612 Год назад

it was very insidious of odin to not only pretend to be tyr to spy on kratos but also make tyr into a joke by making him look useless and cowardly

@Boothills_fuelpumphole Год назад

Ya know, thought the Norse were gonna pull a Jojo ref on Tyr, for a Moment, as soon as I heard Jon Solo said that they both might be the Father- Odin and Hymir- I thought about Giorno, and how he technically has both Jonathan and DIO as a Father. But as always, great video Jon! I subscribed to you way back in 2021, so, I've been a long term fan. Can you perhaps cover some Celtic or Scotish Mythology?

@jessicawhite2002 Год назад

That hoodie tho….❤. Thanks for the great content!

@TickedOffPriest Год назад

I love Tyr's appearance in Ink Pen.

@snagglejaw Год назад

Ugh i love Solo Companions but I can't risk the spoilers on this, this game is one of the few ones where the story unfolding naturally is just what I need without spoilers to deepen the experience

@haydentyler5821 Год назад

Jon you have to tell me where you bought your awesome hoodie!

@KingJaq337 Год назад

The ragnorak story is crazy I need Jon to watch Berserk

@DieumerciMbuyi404 Год назад

where did you get that amazing hoodie?

@CrossFireKitty Год назад

Apparently I need to wait to watch this until after I play the GOW game. ;) I managed to pause it just as you said "Tyr is actually...." LOL

@darryljohnson879 Год назад

Hey jon could you do an episode on Cratos the Greek mythology.

@theoleivald7388 Год назад

Next video should be about Brok and Sindri, please!!!

@Zahri8Alang Год назад

So, how much consultation does the Norse Gods have with the Norns anyways? Does their "plans or interventions" ever go their way or all of it has been predetermined by fate?

@ThiagoCRocha-fh6lg Год назад

Now I respect the work that wnet into making the game alot more!!

@SoranotRoxas Год назад

Alright! More Norse Mythology 👍

@genesismultiverse4896 Год назад

I love the design of ty`r in god of war and how he looks with his armor

@johnmccall9605 Год назад

Interesting that there's a theory that puts the son as the king before the father

@mr.mcnerdo 6 месяцев назад

I love that the last thing we hear is the little baby licking his lips.

@emillysholmsnarud392 Год назад

One guy that ive worked with was the desendent of Snorre Strudlason

@stevenfrazier720 9 месяцев назад

Nice hoodie dude.

@tomnotcalm9695 Год назад

8:46 in German Thursday even means Donnerstag and donner is thunder

@animeguy2099 Год назад

Will you do a messup origin on the excalibur which is said to get its origin mijonir

@1az123123 Год назад

In the end screen, the music sample you use is Bo burnhams song rant, isn't it?

@Hypn0s Год назад

I can finally watch these now that I finished the game.

@dusksorrow5304 Год назад

where can i get your hoodie?

@siszi6 Год назад

I enjoyed GoW as much as everyone else but I think it would be more substantial if you included some ideas from AC valhalla as that came out 2 years ago and their recent ragnarok dlc

@gregboggs2708 Год назад

Are you Norse? My family hails from Iceland but I'm second generation here in America. I love the stories of the heimskringla as well. Pretty crazy to think what those Norse kings went through