The Meteor - RAF's Top 10 Warplanes | Forces TV 

It's a pity Germany didn't have the ME262 operational during the battle of Britain.

@@sK3LeTvM1 it’s also pity the RAF didn’t have sidewinders available during the Battle of Britain.

Or x wings🤪

@@sK3LeTvM1 It really is, imagine how many would have been shot down in 1940, even in 1944 the Me 262 had a poor record as a fighter.

@@sK3LeTvM1 Poor range. Would never have made it home.

Over 1,000 Gloster Meatboxes crashed killing 450 pilots in RAF service alone... it is perhaps the worst jet fighter in history and without any doubt the worst jet fighter in the history of RAF service.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 As you know Sandyboy, the Me 262 failed in all it's wartime goals and moreover failed in the postwar marketplace. The Gloster Meteor on the other hand had a service career of more than thirty years and with more than a dozen air forces.

If you have never seen a Messerschmitt Me-262..

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sandyboy, well you'd have a job seeing an Me 262 since most crashed, were shot down or smashed up as scrap within a couple of years of being built. The Gloster Meteor of course had a service career of more than thirty years and with more than a dozen air forces, what other WW2 jet can you say that of (apart from the De Havilland Vampire of course).

It was also the favorite of Luftwaffe pilots because they only killed British pilots....

Yay its at the end

Daley Wilk where are the rest of the videos ? I've seen typhoon. Vulcan and meteor..

I like it👍

Very true, its odd because he was supported at the start but later found it difficult to get the support needed to get a jet fighter earlier in the war.

Even the legendary Spitfire had to deal with it's share of bureaucratic problems.

Well except for the whole reverse-flow thing, but yeah.

Frank Whittle did not begin actual work on jet engines until 1936 and did not develop a flightworthy engine until mid-41

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Frank Whittle patented it in 1930 and the Germans copied his work. At least the Gloster E 28/39 was flightworthy unlike Ohain's poor attempt.

1952 was a terrible year for the RAF... 85 Vampires and 150 Meatboxes crashed in one year alone.. Staggering loss rate.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Staggering is how many lies you tell. Just as well that so few Me 262's flew, as for the P 80 less were made than the Meteor and more crashed.

@@barrierodliffe4155 *No jey fighter in history has crashed more than the Gloster _"Meatbox"_ Over 1,000 Meatboxes crashed killing 450 pilots in RAF service alone.*

@@sandervanderkammen9230 As you know Sandyboy, the Me 262 failed in all it's wartime goals and moreover had a far worse mech failure crash rate than the Gloster Meteor. The Gloster Meteor had a service career of more than thirty years and with more than a dozen air forces, what other WW2 jet can you say that of (apart from the De Havilland Vampire of course).

@@sandervanderkammen9230 WRONG !!!! The Lockheed P/F 80 and T33 crashed and burned far in excess of the Meteor !!!

Was he one of the 450 RAF pilots that were killed by the Gloster _"Meatbox"?_

@@sandervanderkammen9230 No 40 years he served King, Queen and Country. Joined 1944-1983. Flew lots of jets. Flt Commander of 249 Akritori flying Canberra.

@@alisonmacgregor6666 Well, he was a very lucky man because the _"Meatbox"_ was a deathtrap! One out of every 3 built crashed or were destroyed in accidents. 450 RAF pilots alone were killed and hundreds more seriously injured, paralyzed, severely burned or left crippled.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sanyboy, I see you are still spreading your desperate cope in the face of you nazi chums' historical failure. How many Germans ended up killed, seriously injured, paralyzed, severely burned or left crippled because of that disastrous adventure (which only secured Germany's second thrashing within barely thirty years). Not least the pilots of the Me 262 with its appalling crash rate and inevitable shooting down.

@@alisonmacgregor6666 Don't listen to that idiot Alison he's on everything Meteor related doesn't know what he doesn't know and by now is full of virtual 20mm holes!! He obviously has a huge chip on his shoulder. Anyway 249 Sqn in Akrotiri was a great outfit and you should be rightly proud - my father was on 6 Sqn Venoms at Akrotiri and along with 8 Sqn and 249 Sqn they hit targets in Suez in 1956, he later went onto Hunters and Canberras and probably knew your father.

Was he one of the 450 RAF pilots killed by the Meatbox?

@@sandervanderkammen9230 no he wasnt

@@lighthousecollector He was one of the lucky few...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sandyboy, I see you are still haunting any you tube on the Gloster Meteor spreading your desperate cope in the face of you nazi chums' historical failure.

Looks like a propeller driven aircraft hastily converted to jet power.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Designed for jet engines and always flown with jet engines unlike the Me 262.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 nope, was totaly designed as a jet fighter.The RAF already had a twin engined fighter in the mosquito.

@@andywells397 Sorry lad, you don't know your Gloster Meatbox history now do you??? The Gloster project to fill MoAP specification F.18/40... a propeller driven Night Fighter intended to be powered by 2 Rolls-Royce Merlin engines was hastily converted to a twin engine jet fighter to meet specification F.9/40 for a twin engine jet fighter powered by centrifugal turbojet engines. The specification for a twin axial turbojet fighter designed as a jet from the ground up (F.2/40) was never constructed. Any questions son?

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I've got a question for you Sandyboy, why are you such a *LIAR* ? F2 - 40 was an F9/40 Gloster Meteor powered by the Metrovick F2 axial flow engine that was built and flew in 1943. It's lovely to see you finally come out with a plane to put to your claim to but boy is it funny. Do you realise how dumb you look trying to claim that the Gloster Meteor is a "hastily converted" Gloster Reaper. It's all the funnier knowing that the Me 262 started as a tail dragger and first flew powered by Jumo piston prop unit.

Yeah, the Germans made the first one. Dont think they ever use it though.

@@hummamkhan8278 They did use it in 1945 against allied bomber planes, but because of shortage in pilots and fuel not such a great success...

@@hummamkhan8278 The meteors were active before the ME 262 therefore the meteors were the worlds first active fighter jet. There were plenty of other jet aircraft built before the meteor and the 262 but they never saw any active service.

@@sK3LeTvM1 The Meteor was in service in 1944. The Me 262 was a poor fighter.

@@sK3LeTvM1 it wasn’t the ME 262 it was the Heinkel 178 which flew in August 39. The me 262 flew in August 41 around a month after the Hlis E28

More like a horror film... with suicide machines, RAF pilots called it the _"Meatbox"_ a flying coffin of dismembered body parts. Over 1,000 Meatboxes crashed killing 45O RAF pilots alone. Never in history has such a terrifying aircraft been used against British pilots.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I didn't know that... That's very sad...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sandyboy, I see you are still spreading your desperate cope in the face of you nazi chums' historical failure.

@@jeromewagschal9485 Take no notice of Sandyboy, he's a bitter wehraboo who's only relief is to haunt any you tube on the Gloster Meteor with that little nugget. It was certainly an issue but much more a practice of faulty training and administrative procedures than the aircraft and it far from the worst. The Gloster meteor had a service career of over thirty years and served in more than a dozen air forces.

The Germans first flew in 1939, but they were having good recess that the German air force did not want it.

@@ivorholtskog5506 Why would anyone want the He 178? it had such low performance that they never retracted the undercarriage.

@@ivorholtskog5506 The He-178 was a prototype, not a combat aircraft. The RLM had already began working on several, vastly superior jet aircraft designs. The He-280 would fly in September 1940 and the Messerschmitt Me-262 in April 1941... before the prototype Gloster Whittle E.28/39 did.

@@barrierodliffe4155 *The importance of the Heinkel He-178 was it was the first successful demonstration of jet aircraft in the world and that it was 2 years before Whittle in the U.K.*

Yes it was just a proto, however it proved the idea. They could have had a combat aircraft long before anyone else.

Was he among the 450 RAF pilots killed by the Meatbox? Or was he one of the few lucky survivers?

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Gib es auf dorktorbummer du hast wirklich keine Ahnung.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The 262 had a worse record that why no one wanted one

@@awatt *The Messerschmitt Me-262 was successful in aerial combat... the "Meatbox" only killed British pilots.*

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Awatt's right though Sandyboy, the Me 262's record was worse and it doesn't have the merit of a thirty year plus service career with service in more than a dozen air forces. And of course, the Me 262 failed in all its combat roles.

War little boy. The Meteor was a very effective fighter.

The Gloster Meatbox never shot down a single Luftwaffe plane.. But managed to kill 450 RAF pilots

@@sandervanderkammen9230 In WW II the Meteor destroyed 46 Luftwaffe aircraft and no Meteors were lost in combat. Too bad you can't say the same about the Me 262 failure that couldn't take on piston engine fighters.

@@barrierodliffe4155 *The Gloster Meatbox never shot down a single Luftwaffe plane... but it would go on killing RAF pilots (450 killed) long after the war ended!*

@@sandervanderkammen9230 A better loss rate than the 240 Luftwaffe pilots killed in < two years by the ME262 in training alone. All early jets were dangerous, the 262 was no different.

Whilst 262s were faster to my knowledge, the Meteor was all-round more reliable and versatile, with better acceleration / deceleration, more effective armament and (arguably) better manoeuvrability. Whoever got the drop on the other would probably win. If their start was equal, I'd say the 262 if the pilots were new, and the meteor if the pilots were experienced. Of course, this is just speculation.

At lower speed possibly the Meator because the 262 had swept wings which helped at high speed. They were actually more advanced, think about how the Tornado or F14 etc had wings which could be moved depending on speed.

I’d want to be flying the Meteor. The 262 wasn’t designed to be a dog fighter, it was designed to shoot down enemy bombers. The Meteor was also more rugged.

@@madmax07ish armament of 262 was better: 4 cannon of 30 mm, and 24 R4M rocket 55mm

@@johannmckraken9399 Dream on.

1946 and 55 i think

Venom entered service in 1952 and the Hunter in 1954

Hard to believe the British were building jet fighters out of wood in the 1950s...

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Gib es auf dorktorbummer du hast wirklich keine Ahnung.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 NASA use wood in their spacecraft.

Meatbox was what _RAF pilots called it!!!_ ...over 1,000 crashed killing 450 british pilots.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 You always tell lies. 890 did crash over many years in RAF service but many Meteors were made and flew. It served for decades unlike the failure Me 262.

@@barrierodliffe4155 The me262 was useless in its intended role. Wellington pilots were told to go into a tight turn when encountering a 262. Even a slow redundant bomber could out turn it.

@@barrierodliffe4155 *The Messerschmitt Me-262 killed almost as many Allied pilots as the Gloster Meatbox did!* *450 RAF pilots alone were killed by the worst jet fighter in history.*

@@awatt *The Messerschmitt Me-262 shot down over 550 Allied aircraft... the Gloster Meatbox?* *ZERO*