For everyone that's coming back to this video after the World Series, I suggest you watch to see what I mean why the process and public handling of the trade was a "disaster". Like I said in the video, from a baseball perspective this was a great trade, especially for the Dodgers.
@@Luke_______ Well you were right on the money with your video here and now the World Series is now tied to bed we have seen everything that this man has done since going to CaliforniaSomething must be wrong with the Red Sox for them to make that trade like something was really wrong with it and also him beating my second favorite team when they were up three games to nothing in the NL CS and all those sketches in things that he was making was just I have no words
Oh yeah the Dodgers are loving this trade right now. After the performance by Betts in game 1 of world series. (home run, 2 stolen bases, scored 2 runs)
Betts is already Dodger royalty for being a key part of this title, but he's set up to be the face of the team for an entire generation now. And I couldn't be happier for that.
@@moron5716 And now he has signed that ridiculous contract extension. But that is good news because it practically guarantees the Dodgers won't win anything for another few years.
Random thought but the 2 guys on the Red Sox roster that we're getting paid the most (before the trade of course)both had money related names (Price and Sale)
@Julian R I agree. The dodgers didn't play anyone east of the Mississippi. Cardinals played like 70 straight days. 6p games. Dodgers always flame out when play 162
The trade is still a disaster for the Red Sox tho, because they flubbed the hell out of the Brusdar Graterol ordeal. It actually aged really well, the trade was a disaster since it was messed up during the first draft and nearly screwed over many players.
@@vision-gc4hy at what point did Dawson say it was a disaster for the Dodgers in the video. Most of the worst trades in sports history are so bad because they are lopsided in favor of one of the teams. On top of that Dawson's main point was that it sucks for the players to be jerked around in trade rumors the way that they were.
@@SanFranFan30 The content of the video is informative. However, it was "recommended" to me using a description that doesn't fit his nuanced content. Without the "recommendation," which was interesting enough for me to click on it, I found that the video didn't match the description. That's all. A bit of click-bait.
YUDAH-UTAH MESHIYACH-MECHICA *PROOF IS IN MEXICO* They stopped calling themselves the los angeles angels of anaheim like 3 years ago where have you been lol
I think calling the JD Martinez signing short sighted is super unfair, hes been top 5 hitter in all of baseball since signing that contract and makes nowhere near 30 million like everyone else of his caliber(not to mention they dont win WS without him), that should only be called a good deal, there were other, much worse contracts offered the last 5 years by the Red Sox that put them where they are (nitpicky complaint, i know) One thing you didn't mention about luxury tax that i think is very important to the organization with the worst farm. If they fail to reset the luxury tax this year they will begin to incur draft and international pool money penalties and they just cant afford that even more than the tax penalties. Overall I think the trade works for everyone involved, maybe there was some inconvenience for the players involved but to call it a disaster is quite the overstatement, maybe for the Angels it was but that's also their own fault, nobody made them back out of that amazing deal for them
Betts clearly felt at home after the two spring trainings to sign a contract for less money than expect, and the Dodgers got a steal. Maeda got to go somewhere where he could be guaranteed to start (he was always the fifth starter on a team that seemed to always have about eight starters, which as a practical matter meant bullpen duty at the end of the year and in the playoffs). Likewise, Stripling (who was traded midseason to Toronto) gets to go somewhere where he can start (he was always about the sixth starter in said eight man rotation). Price opted out due to Covid and a young kid at home and I forgot he was on the Dodgers (but I guess he'll be back next year). Graterol is just one face in the best bullpen in the league; Jensen is still doing just enough to keep his job for now. But even without Price, this year's Dodgers team is probably their best in decades, and considering they've won their division seven years straight, that's saying something. Of course, as I post this, they've only played one round of playoffs, which always have a high degree of randomness in to who wins.
Trade analysis videos are something I didn't even think about! It helps us people who are big fans of baseball but don't know much about front offices and negotiations. Thanks man!!
Now you can say it was a great deal for the Dodgers..... Betts is probably the best player in the leagu Boston is regretting signing Sale and Sandoval to contracts
Great video, it's really interesting to see this through the context we now have at the end of this weird and wild 2020 season. Mookie, Joc, and Graterol were all instrumental in the Dodgers' championship campaign. A strange series of events brought them all together, but with a World Series trophy and Mookie extending to become a Dodger for the next 12 seasons, it ended up being an absolute win for the Boys in Blue.
You can thank Dombrowski for this big mess. His history is giving out huge contracts and emptying out the farm system for short term results. I guess they got the 2018 WS out of it. The Red Sox got rid of him just in time or they would have ended like the Detroit Tigers!
Jack Burdock Hey Jack, I’m from Detroit, and yes we are a mess right now, but things are looking up. To be honest, I’d take Dave Dombrowski back in a minute! If the Red Sox said before 2018, we are going to sign JD, Price, and Sale to win a World Series and knowing that your farm system would be completely wiped out, but you’ll get the chance to watch one of the best teams ever assembled for a year, a lot of fans in all these cities including Detroit that haven’t won in 30-35 or more years, would say hell yes! I know it’s different these days in Boston, but go back to the beginning of 2004, when you finally won again. Would you say yes then? Just sayin it’s all about winning and in fairness to Dombrowski, no deal is done without the approval of ownership. In Detroit, Illitch was the one telling Dave go get this guy. It was fun for 5-6 years here and they’ll eventually get there again, but what a great time it was even though it wiped out farm system out too. Just sayin.
This vid isn't about disasters. It's about the Betts trade. So, no, this comment is wildly out of place. Of course the Astros debacle is horrendous. Everyone knows that. But there are countless other places for that discussion. Should we bring up steroids? The black sox? Baltimore signing Chris Davis to that ridiculous contract? There are tons of disasters, in and out of baseball. That doesn't mean they should be mentioned here. Stay on topic.
No it didn’t as a dodgers fan, he met this was a disaster in the way the trade was handled and everything that happened alongside it. Also the trade was a disaster for Red Sox not Dodgers, and that’s what he said. Go Dodgers, we going back to baco
With the Mookie extension, Graterol performing, oh and that World Series championship...this trade got SO MUCH sweeter. The city of LA missed Verdugo but Betts really was the difference maker. And he isn’t done chasing rings, I’ll tell you that much.
Yup, I think the jinx is over for the Dodgers. Betts will help them win the Fall Classic. Just look at his performance in Game 1 today against TB. I think he had a HR? Yes?
As a Dodgers fan I wasnt too high on Verdugo anyway so I was cool with him going. As far as Mookie, this is the Dodgers last chance in this era for a World Series run. If we fail I'm completely cool with a complete rebuild and letting Betts walk
How is this the last chance in this era? They are literally built at this moment, by how their farm system and major league roster are constructed, to compete well into the 20s.
Sox fan here just asking why you aren't a fan of Verdugo? Just glancing at is baseball reference page, he looks like an above average hitter, an .800+ ops, 340 obp, but didn't get the at bats an every day player should get at less than 400 PAs. I mean he's not Mookie.
Alot of pressure on Dodgers 2 win everything this year!! But in a very shortend season ALOT of unseen things can happen!! Some of the weaker teams could fluke out if they get on a roll!! And also possibly only getting mookie 4 60 games!! If they win it all and mookie walks guess its worth it but if they don't and mookie walks kinda of a one sided trade !!! GO DODGERS!!!
Ppl think the Sox got railed have no clue about baseball. In the original trade, yes they wouldve got railed, but in the new version they got back an elite prospect in Jeter Downs who everyone has as a top 70 prospect and a very good prospect at a premium position in Connor Wang. Both have power and speed, and this doesnt even mention Verdugo who everyone had as a top 15 prospect before getting called up. So for what is essentially a one yr rental, no guarantee Betts stays in LA, the Sox got back two elite prospects and a very good one at a premium position, catcher. Dont act like u Sox fans wanted Price around, u should be happy to be able to get out of that contract even though u had to pay half of his contract. As a Dodger fan i think we gave up too much.
We did not give up too much lol we have Gavin Lux ready to take over the infield. With the trade our team still has a deep farm system and payroll flexibility to make more moves. “Giving up too much” is no such thing when you get a top 5 talent even if it’s just a year rental. Verdugo also got hurt which has to be taken into consideration as well to go with a crowded outfield he would have to platoon in.... so
It’ll all make sense if we win the World Series. Meter downs has been traded a few times I’m not sure he’s that good. Prospects are prospect. Maybe, maybe nots
Haha everyone thought Mookie was going to hate it in LA and was only gonna be here for a year. Then signs a 12 year deal that’ll keep him here for his career. Gotta love it
Hey Dawson, what do you think of this excerpt I wrote? The Red Sox are worth 6.6 billion. The angels were smart. The Rockies were smart. Nothing you can ever trade for is worth one of the top 5 players in the game. They wont add up to, and certainly wont become players that good. The money they would spend would be worth it. On top of the statistical value (Mookie was on pace to be the second-highest WAR Sox player in history), Boston loves him as a person. Owners need to remember that baseball is not just business. It is a game, played by humans. there is something inherently invaluable about having a superstar play for a team his whole career. No excuses for not giving Mookie a 35 million-year deal. there are many ways to get around that tax. Trade price with Benintendi. They could’ve gotten to exact same package for those two. Trading a top player in the game is bad enough. Trading him because you don’t want to pay him is bad enough. Getting minor prospects at positions you don’t need players at is worse. Trading a player, a person, as loved by a city as Mookie Betts, though. That is felony
Well said, That's why, as a tigers fan, I was happy with the miguel cabrera contract despite it obviously being a bad deal. Hes a hero in motor city and will finish his career with a team that hes played most of his career for. Every penny deserved.
Also, I'm still immensely sad that Mookie's gone, I'm a Red Sox fan. Not only was he just phemomenal at all facets of the game, his demeanor was pleasant and refreshing. He genuinely just loves playing the game and it shows. Mookie is what baseball is supposed to be, and I'm going to miss that so much.
Very good video. You mentioned the difficulty ahead for the Dodgers in regards to signing Betts due to the players they already have, and the money they'll soon pay Bellinger, but that really doesn't seem to be a problem. Turner, Pederson, Hernandez, Baez, and Wood are all FAs after the season, and Jansen and Kershaw are FAs after 2021. Essentially, they are committed to approx. $120M for 2021, and $50M for 2022. They should have no problem signing any player they'd prefer, including Betts, Bellinger, Seager, and Buehler.
The 2019 Red Sox had three members of the lineup hit over .300 with 30+ homers, none of whom are named Mookie Betts. They are Xander Bogaerts, J.D. Martinez and Rafael Devers, all of whom are still in Boston. Mookie's glove and character will be hard to replace, but the offense will be OK, I think. I am concerned for pitching, however.
@@shirleebostrom7230 didn't cheat in the postseason and would you look at that you signed 3 of them in Kelly Price and Mookie so I guess cheating doesn't offend you guys too much because I'm sure they can bring in some "winning formulas" to the Dodgers.
Right around 2013-2014 when Xander and then next year Mookie came into the league, the Red Sox had the best farm system in baseball. Now they’ve the worst 7-6 years later, incredible
Yeah, but they won a championship. Fans tend to take them lightly. But people in the game know how hard it is to win. Boston traded away some good players (Moncado) and handed out some monster contracts. But it worked. They won. 2018 World Champions. Do you get it? They won. It worked.
Red Sox trade Betts to a 106 win team for very little in return, really? You're telling me they couldn't get a better offer from anyone else? I seriously think there's some kind of special arrangement between the Sox and Dodgers franchises, look at the big trades they've made with each other through the years.
We did the Sox a favor in 2012 by taking the AGon, Crawford and Beckett contracts off their books. If the Sox want to cheap out we may as well take them.
The Dodgers are owned by Guggenheim Partners which is basically an international insurance company like Lloyds of London. They really are the only team that could have afforded to get the Red Sox out of the financial mess they got themselves in to with the contracts they signed players to and the luxury tax.
I look at this situation through the prism of the sign stealing scandal. That leads me to believe that trading Betts was part of an unconventional punishment for the Sox, and if that's true then the official report will appear to let them off easy. It will also not divulge as much publicly as the Astros report did. Bottom line is that the Sox navigated this scandal better than the Astros, who may never be regarded again with respect for generations.
@@tysparks598 Baseball is now more of a global entertainment business than it is a sports business. The laws and ethics that govern entertainment are way more flexible and creative regarding "conflict resolution". All of the major sports now fall into the same category, and this is the type of wheeling and dealing that happens. This is how the sausage is made, lol. Because if you really analyze the situation; there's no way a deep-pocketed global Brand like the Red Sox lets Betts get away without a monster offer. He's a generational talent and a legit role model. He should be the face of their Brand. And he would be - - - if they didn't get caught. ;)
As someone who understands the core concepts and deeper reasoning of the trade, it’s hard to explain things to short sighted fans. For Boston, what’s more valuable given their current situation; 1 year of Betts (let’s be real he wasn’t gonna resign) and price for 30+ mil for 3 years at age 36, or a cheap verdugo for the next 5-6 years (who can be an all star) and a legit future pedroia replacement for the next 8?
@@karenstepp669 I'm probably the last person on the planet you need to explain player values to haha. He's not an mvp type, but multiple all-star appearances in the next 5 years is reasonably likely. I'll say .280 25-30 hr's (35 in a good year) .870 ops and 200ish runs+rbi's per year. He's got to stay healthy tho
MLB needs a salary cap. $18 million per year is a good figure. I would also suggest raising the league minimum to $1million( it is about $564,000 right now). Limit contracts to 3 years maximum.
@@DawsonWright- By awful, do you mean in a "public relations" sense?Brusdar G. had poor medicals. The Red Sox were right to ask the trade be reconfigured. So, it took longer for the trade to be finished, and I think the Red Sox improved it for themselves. Awful or disastrous? No, unless you mean in the way the media built it up, or that the result was unknown for a short period.
yeah if anything, by calling it a so-called "disaster, you are literally handling this the way the media did, in order to gain more views and followers, which is not ethically reporting
15:03, You think Mookie Betts will go to San Diego in Free Agency? As a San Diego Native, I like that idea, but have to ask why you would think that? The Padres have only the 13th highest payroll in MLB, which is the highest in franchise history. It is hard to see the 'small market' Padres finding the money to sign Betts.
We need to get rid of will myers contract in order to sign mookie. We’re also barely above the average in total payroll. If we can get rid of myers(unless he steps up this season), it’ll be easy to convince mookie to play for us considering we did not give up everything in the the farm system in a trade for him.
yoda8802 I some what agree. Betts is wants 400million and sd is not giving that up. We have such a young core that we will eventually need to pay. I dont think betts is the long term solution. We need to pay our farm system and tatis/paddack
@@OGTirpleOG , I agree with you. If the Padres move Wil Myers (and that bloated contract) I can see the Padres making Mookie Betts an offer. I was just curious as to why Dawson would make the Padres his FA prediction so early. I asked Dawson Wright to clarify more out of curiosity. He hasn't. No big deal. If Mookie likes the beach, fish tacos and sunshine.....the Padres have great intangibles that NO other MLB team can offer.
This turned out pretty well for everyone involved. Maeda had a 2nd place finish in Cy young for the twins, Verdugo was great for the Red Sox, and Graterol and Betts played well for the Dodgers helping them earn a championship.
Jamboree Gomez I’ve been waiting for more then 30yrs for the WS hope it’s this years but I’m just Hella pissed knowing that we had 2017 WS in our hands and we got Robbed
@@vicortiz5105 I remember back in 2017 saying it was one of the best WS I've seen but now knowing the truth. We definitely would have won that year. I'm only 29 so I been waiting 29 years lol I was born 15 minutes away from Dodger Stadium I been a fan since birth.
Here's my take on this trade as a Red Sox fan. First of all, ownership's surprise at the backlash from Red Sox fans is faux suprise. They had to know that there would be fan outrage at trading away a franchise player. Graderol's shoulder injury in the original deal only poured salt in the wound. Second, this trade was a salary dump. Yeah, the luxury tax was part of it, but not all of it. The team offered Mookie a fair deal, $300 million for 10 years, but he wanted more money and more years. Most of the high contracts you mentioned were made by former Red Sox GM Dave Dombrowski, the same guy who gutted the Red Sox farm system. Overpaying Price was a kneejerk reaction to losing Jon Lester and the fan outrage over that. The revamped deal is a little better, but there was no pitching in return. The team's biggest hole is pitching. Then after the deal was done, it comes out that Verdugo is dealing with a back injury. Bottom line, it's unlikely the Red Sox would've been competitive in 2020 with Mookie Betts and David Price anyway, so they might as well get something for Mookie before he leaves as a free agent. I was disappointed they traded Betts, but it's done. I wish him well (and hope he doesn't end up in Yankees pinstripes starting in 2021! That would be a worst case scenario!) Some fans expect the Red Sox to bring Betts back as a free agent, but I thought they would do the same with Lester when he became a free agent after they traded him to Oakland at the trade deadline in 2014. For that reason, I don't expect Mookie to sign with Boston as a free agent after the season.
Looking back, it was great for the Dodgers. The Dodgers were in the Boston trap when the new management took over. It took a decade and some good pickups that others had given up on.
Saw this after the Series and I honestly thought that it was pretty insightful. Sure, wrong on the FA Market but 50-50 shot there and it wasn't like Betts signed 2 days later... overall, it was well done. While Mookie was a great add for Dodgers, the fact that the Angels dropped their interest in Pederson/Stripling ended being a big unforeseen factor in the playoffs as JP went almost .400 through last 3 series with 8 RBIs in some 30 at bats. Came through in some clutch moments. Graterol - insane add. Still can't stop laughing at the Graterol-Machado exchange in NLDS. Anyway, the trade looks like it has the potential to be one of the better all time from the Dodgers perspective... Gotta wonder if Price is regretting opting out of the season now?
This wasn't the first time Boston signed a former Rays all-star to a 9-figure deal, only for said all star to underperform, battle injuries, get unloaded onto the Dodgers, and say they were miserable playing for the Red Sox. At least Price got a ring out of it, but maybe this team should refrain from giving Kiermaier or Snell $200M in the future.
The insane strikeout rate the last 3 Dodgers teams have had pretty much shows the Dodgers didn’t. Watch the 2017 and 2018 World Series and the young dodgers left hangers swinging and missing on sliders low and in. If they know those pitches are sliders and are gonna break and be balls, Jesus I think the Dodgers 3-peat as WS champs
Anyone that knows that players watch the cameras to analyze their game knows other teams stole signs too. You are analyzing a game and notice the pitchers signals? Come on now. Astros took it to another level. Nobody is stupid.
I enjoyed this but as a Dodgers fan I am heartbroken over losing Alex Verdugo. He is amazing and so much fun to watch. I believe Boston got the best of this thing when they got Dugie. And as for Mookie Betts, I don't see him being as big a deal as people seem to think. He's just not all that to me and he probably never will be.
@@WillTheTrainFan We were horrible last season, but on the bright side we now own the #4 selection in the MLB draft a month from now. With that we can draft superstar pitcher from Vanderbilt, Kumar Rocker. Check him out, he'll be great on the Sox.
@@WillTheTrainFan MLB draft is weird like that. Leiter is almost a shoe-in for #1, but Kumar may fall to #4. I've seen 5 separate mock drafts where he goes to us.
