THE MOST DECEIVING DUMP TRAILER I’VE EVER SEEN. DISAPPOINTED

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We've had a Diamond C dump trailer for about a year and haven't used it much. But when we have used it, it's been great. It even fits our John Deere 333G Skidsteer (though just barely!) so it's a good transport trailer for that. Today though, we found its limits. In fact we far exceeded them. Maybe you already know this, but maybe you don't. Watch the video to find out the two limits a trailer like this has.
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@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

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@IndependenceIron Год назад

A trick i have used for overloading dump trailers is to keep it stacked to the rear, and then also never lower it all the way back down. I put a 6" or 12" block of wood under the front. The linkage gains mechanical advantage as its raised. And it has the least amount of advantage when its fully lowered. So keeping it up just a little bit is usually all it takes to get a overload dumped.

@Fellgla Год назад

I agree. My 16' Big Tex have same type of lift. I load it like a 14' starting from the rear. Keeping the front light. A block under the front do helps.

@simpleman4196 2 года назад

Out of curiosity check your hydraulic fluid level in the trailer. Also in a pinch pick up on the bottom of the trailer with the bucket to help the trailer lift and dump

@EnriqueSonora 2 года назад

That is what I like about your channel, you are honest about the gear, experience and daily trails and tribulations. Great format.

@Itsa_Mea 2 года назад

Another channel I watch had a similar experience with the Diamond C gooseneck dump. I think it needs dual telescopic hyd cylinders. For trailers that length it's silly that it can't dump it. I wouldn't of even considered that load as "full".

@phild9813 2 года назад

Yeah I would never have dreamed that would’ve been too much dirt to dump. Dump feature on that unit seems almost useless?

@frankmoreau8847 2 года назад

That looked well over half as full as we used to load waste dirt from a jobsite in an 8'x20' box. Our loads were 18 tons.

@Jtwizzle 2 года назад

@@phild9813 Youd be surprised. He was probably close to a ton per scoop of dirt. That was possibly 12-13 tons, or 4-5 tons over capacity.

@shawnperkins1159 2 года назад

Surprised a trailer that size doesn’t have dual cylinders. Our 6x14 dual axle dumps about 10k, she doesn’t like that much but she does and it’s a single cylinder.

@slaveofjesus3878 2 года назад

Or better yet, 3-stage telescoping front mounted lift.

@davidash7536 2 года назад

I love that you show the good, the bad, and the ugly. It’s what many of us go through and nice to know I’m not the only one. Much respect.

@reno4819 2 года назад

Two things. I wish trailers had weight indicators built in. Not at all hard to do using spring compression gauge. 2nd, I put a sheet of UHDP on my trailer floor to make it slick. I made mine removable if I don't want a slick floor for a particular load. It works great for me. Cheers!

@sunseeker6088 2 года назад

Cory…..you made my morning. Hearing you laugh at a frustrating situation was the key. We are so blessed. Think of it like this. Your trailer was trying to teach you.

@tomburton1037 2 года назад

I did the same thing a couple of years ago. What I did was bring the skidloader to the front of the trailer and put the corner of the bucket under the corner of the trailer and do a little assist lift. Once the dirt started moving to the back the trailer took over by itself so I didn't have to lift too much. Worked great.

@jeffwhite9028 2 года назад

important vid. I'm a retired engineer, surrounded by hardworking farmers & cattlemen. I see them overload equipment, ...and break it, ...all the time. And then I did it, even tho I know better. It is sooo costly! I made a card of my common loads, the densities, the carry volume, and posted it. DO NOT BLOW: axle bearings, u-joints, trannies, engines. I spun an axle bearing on the hwy; very un-fun. important vid.

@cdayejr 2 года назад

Great job coming up with a solution. Looks like most newer trailers so many cut backs just does not have the power to do what it should.

@deanstrickland6993 2 года назад

Well, to be fair, it is easy enough to get caught up in the moment and lose track of how much one loads versus capacity. I’m just glad that nothing appears to have sustained any damage and that you are safe. Great video and thank you for sharing!

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

Definitely, turned out alright besides the extra time that I didn't plan on spending, ha!

@deanstrickland6993 2 года назад

@@GoodWorksTractors 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Been there and lost my immortal soul on more than one occasion! Stay safe and best wishes!

@Harry-zz2oh 2 года назад

@@deanstrickland6993 One reason to practice never swearing since you never know when you'll need all the "extra" help.

@HankAvink 2 года назад

Been there. Traded in my 5x10 10k for 7x14 14k and realized quickly my 5x10 dumped just as much if not more. I used my mini ex to pull the dirt out. Good work

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 for me. Would have preferred the shorter sided trailer if doing it again.

@kevingebert4316 2 года назад

I actually went from a 7x14 14k trailer downsized to 5x10 10k trailer since then I wouldn't be tempted to over load it and rut up yards when driving to deliver my mulch or black dirt. 5x10 has plenty of payload and sandy screened black dirt is very heavy. My Loadtrail trailers never stuggled to lift whatever I put in them though including 3yds of pit run in the bigger unit. That was probably too much weight for my lil 1500 dodge to pull overall but hemi handled it fine.

@jasonginsbach9908 2 года назад

A telescopic end dump will have more lifting capacity. When I was operating commercial end dumps and I’d haul spoilage I always stuck to a 6 scoop max. No matter what it looked like in the trailer. Even then, I’d roll across the scale 150,000 depending on the moisture content. But concentrate the load to the rear. In your trailer, I’d split the bucket at the front trailer axle (half bucket in front) then load to the rear. That’s with a end dump. With the scissor lift or a dual ram under lift, no soil ahead of the axles.

@richardbrowne1679 2 года назад

I have a Diamond C 8x16 Low Profile Dump Trailer. It’s always been able to dump everything I’ve put in there. I typically haul firewood. Filled to capacity it hauls and dumps 2.5 cords.

@kendrury3713 2 года назад

Cory, your a trip! Most unique you tube channel out there. Thanks for what you do!

@ronaldharmon9891 2 года назад

You were doing EXACTLY what we would have done "Oh hell it's big enough, load'r up"😆

@batterpm11 2 года назад

I went with 14’ on my new dump trailer, I knew if I’d gone 16’ I’d load every square inch I could and be way overloaded. I’m pretty bad about that 😂

@kylem204616 Год назад

Best way i was taught to use dump trailers is to dump even down the length of the trailer in the middle. When it starts to hit the side wall of the trailer stop loading. And toss on 1 or 2 more bucks on the tail and thats. Good starting point. If it lifts easy the next go round fill it up a little more. Not an exact Science but has done me pretty good.

@FireDude13 2 года назад

I guess I'm not understanding what you would use that size dump trailer for if you can't dump it with stone/dirt at the trailer's GVW. It is a triple axle dump trailer that can't dump a 1/2 or 2/3 load of dirt? Is there a lighter material you would fill it with so you can dump it? Thank you for sharing your lesson's learned! I learned something lol

@MarksInTimePhotography 2 года назад

I recently had a pump go out and the new one wouldn't hardly dump 2 tons. Turned out it was the psi on the pump was 900psi under the max. It was rated for 3200 and I was only getting 2300. Turned up the psi and it was much better. Can easily do 4 to 5 tons now.

@stephenoverstreet9898 2 года назад

Kudos to you Courtney for sharing your misadventure with us. You could be embarrassed by it, but you helped those of us without much experience to be wary of overloading our trailers. Thanks for the school of hard-knocks!

@terrygroce1594 2 года назад

I would have done the same thing. Big trailer means alot of material it could haul. We learn from these incidents and gain wisdom. Did good. You got the dirt off and didn't give up. Keep the videos coming.

@bwj3456 2 года назад

Ya, by my calculations you were probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 10k lbs over your limit. At least you had the equipment to unload it relatively easily! If you're wanting to use the trailer, maybe try just loading it from the front axle back and maybe keep it to 6 or 7 bucket fulls??? Good video, and some important information for people who might want to buy a dump trailer. Thanks for sharing!

@frankmoreau8847 2 года назад

I drove a dump truck and trailer for 14 years. One loader operator would sometimes overload me and when I went back to dump a little off, he would joke. "What good are those big boxes on that truck, if I can't fill them up." The nice thing about a PTO driven hydraulic pump is it will lift and dump anything you put in it, but shoveling out sticky material was just part of the dump truck game.

@jeffbaldwin9842 Год назад

Interesting, appreciate the info. Looks like more proof that, like so many things, bigger isn't always better. Good lesson to learn.

@Classifiedreality 2 года назад

Thanks for the demo...good information to know...👨‍🌾🚜👨‍🌾🌠🌠

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

thanks for stopping by!

@andrewt248 2 года назад

I had some slightly wet dirt in a garbage can. It didn’t look like there was hardly any in there, but I nearly separated my shoulder moving that can. I wager it weighed in the neighborhood of 300 pounds.

@raymondmcdonald7085 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing. Your presenting this to us will save a lot of people grief.

@Lackieestatesfarm 2 года назад

The biggest clue to your issue is when you unloaded a large portion of it and the remains still stuck in your trailer. Dry soil doesn’t do that. Topsoil is easily very damp and increase the weight exponentially. Also you had the volume in that trailer that I’d expect to see in a tandem dump truck. That trailer is way too large for gravel work. I’m thinking it’s more geared towards grain or grass clippings. Also look at where the lift cylinder is on that. It’s so far rearward that it can’t get any leverage on the box. One more thing to look at, what do you have for an electrical set up on that truck? Do you have a second battery and heavy service alternator? And 3500 series trucks I’ve seen with dump bodies are set up that way, and have a huge draw on power when dumping. You may need a second battery and even rev up the truck when dumping to get a little bit more juice out of it

@t.conner4798 2 года назад

Wow, I would not have been happy either. Quick question, what was the little dual axle trailer you showed a few months ago? It had the floating axles, nice setup. Thanks Cortney.

@LongBinh70 2 года назад

My dump is about half as long. One Spring I loaded it to the rails with a mix of topsoil and subsoil to fill a large divot in the lawn. Backed up to the divot, pushed the button, got the right noises, but the trailer didn't lift. I ended up shoveling it out by hand on a very hot day. Only later did it dawn on me that the trailer battery was low from sitting all winter without being used. All I had to do was jump it, swap it, or charge it. All that work for nothing. I learned my lesson. Now I always start with a full battery.

@slaveofjesus3878 2 года назад

In a previous job, dump trailer battery could be quick connector plugged into truck batteries. I hope to have the same quick connectors installed at the rear of current F-350 if I'm able to get a dump trailer.

@Harry-zz2oh 2 года назад

You had a lot of exercise which helped you sleep well that night. Always enjoy getting a good nights sleep.

@Masterism88 2 года назад

The problem was that you loaded up the front of the trailer. You should have kept most of the dirt on the tail end. Specially with a long 20ft trailer. Also, a 20ft trailer is HUGE for moving dirt. Too big in my opinion.

@larrycannady4601 Год назад

Don't u just love when people get on RU-vid and down grade equipment and have no idea what they are doing

@BS.-.- Год назад

Did you check the pump pressure? I had to turn a friends up once because it was set so low from the factory a 12k trailer couldn't dump 5k of stuff.

@travismoore3775 2 года назад

It is a common mistake so don’t worry about it. Another way to resolve it is use the skid to lift on the front corner. The hardest part of lifting for the dump trailer is the first 4-6 inches. I have used equipment to help it past that point lots of times.I done this 10’s of times with no issues or damage to the trailer. Also if you are hauling dirt across the property and plan to exceed the weight limit, always load the trailer to the back keeping the 15% tongue weight in mind. Weight over or behind the pivot is easier to lift .

@BitCounter 2 года назад

You have a trailer perfect for hauling a full load of leaves.. I know more by you sharing your experiences. Thanks.

@winkdinkerson7190 2 года назад

Just moved 35 loads of horse manure in a 14foot dump trailer I rented. Several of those loads taxed the hydraulic system due to the material composition, moisture content and sheer weight. On on occasion I though the hydraulic pump wasn’t going to lift the load. Good news is it did, and we got the job done. As a side note learned all material with high moisture content stick to the trailer bed, even at full mast. The only way to get it all out is to rock forward and backward hitting the trailer brake to cause a slide.

@TubeYou7531 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing lessons learned.

@LePetitMondedeMichel Год назад

I have a suggestion to make. Do a video on safety practice and good practices when unloaded a dump trailer. The majority of the people who own a dump trailer don't know the risk of fleeing on the side or what to do if you load it stuck in the trailer.

@mr.darrelltrunnell644 2 года назад

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@MillCityJam 2 года назад

Funny - I'm starting on a very similar project as well. Clearing away 650ft of dusty clay dirt road to lay down a layer of 3/4 crushed rock or recycled asphalt - haven't decided yet.

@bcsbbq7829 Год назад

Most larger skid steer buckets are 1 yard buckets. Essentially you loaded 13 yards especially when you loaded those heaping yards. With the material you were loading do not go over 5-7 yards. Regardless what anyone says. You can blow the hydraulics. Dump trailers are not dump trucks. You can overload a dump truck by however much you want dang near and she's going to dump. These dump trailer manufacturers these days make it seem like you can fill the whole bed up with material and that's by far false. Yes with mulch and very light weight materials. I've put almost 20 yards of mulch on mine and she dumps like a charm. And junk / brush those items you can pack her full with. Great video brother

@ricktanguay2310 2 года назад

Seems to me that the lift cylinder is way too underpowered for this size trailer. Shame on the engineers for designing it that way.

@d.a.ballou9740 2 года назад

At least you didn't have to shovel it out by hand! 😁👨‍🚒

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

Haha, no kidding!

@kennyjohnson6875 2 года назад

Dude gotta give you a shout out just for showing us this .Most people would delete this

@zacharygeiwitz Год назад

I didn't think they did the scissors lift in their long dump trailer. That lift method has been the bane of my existence through the years and I finally went to only getting telescope lifts and they do the trick

@str8tdiesel07 Год назад

You should take a look at Texas Pride dump trailers. I picked up a 16ft bumper pull dump last year. They use a front mounted very large cylinder positioned like you see on a typical dump truck/gravel trail. I have filled and I mean filled my trailer with some heavy material and it always dumps.

@donaldjohnson633 Год назад

On ur next dirt/gravel hauling project do this. After putting 8-10 skid steer buckets in the trailer, start raising the trailer bed up & down a few inches while listening to the hyd pump. And keep repeating this every few buckets until the pump tells you "No more!" Lol

@williamgaines9784 2 года назад

You can measure your loader bucket and get the approximate cubic foot capacity of each scoop. On heavy stuff, you can use a wet sand weight estimate, about 130 pounds per cubic foot, to figure the load in the trailer. Keep the pile over the axles instead of forward to ease the dump function. The trailer is a great worksaver over carrying each bucket to your dump area, as long as it is capable of holding more than 2 or 3 buckets full.

@Jtwizzle 2 года назад

Buckets usually have a small plate attached on the side that shows the weight of bucket and cubic yard capacity.

@keithsuggs7935 2 года назад

I tried this same setup when I started my contracting business. I learned; 1) Dump trailers are designed to dump trash the angle of repose is too low to dump most soils except maybe dry sand. 2) Scissor hoist are not suited for heavy loads and will stall with soils or rock. 3) There isn't a tire made that won't blow out in this kind of service. Bought the heaviest load rage f tires that would fit on the rim and had roa service called to replace them in route to a job more than once. 4) Lastly no matter what pickup truck you have, I don't care if it's a turbo charged diesel and make 500hp and 1000 lb-ft of torque it will kill the truck in a short time frame. This kind of weight requires a class 8 truck with a CDL. The DOT officer will write you a ticket based on the weight capacity of the trailer plus the truck. Learn from my mistakes.

@timblossom8904 Год назад

There is a wheel upgrade to a 19.5 made by boar wheel that will give you a tire and wheel that will handle heavier loads. Still think that your bigger truck and trailer advice is spot on.

@keithsuggs7935 Год назад

@@timblossom8904 I had a friend with an empty 35' gooseneck trailer and a Chevy 3500HD dually get pulled by DOT and ticketed for not having a CDL because his gross was 14,000# for the truck and 28,000# for the trailer. That's 42,000# for the combo and he had a regular class D license. I told him if he got caught it would be expensive. He said it's a pickup truck! I don't need no CDL for a pickup! The cop told him he might as well have no license instead of the wrong one. LOL

@tokencivilian8507 2 года назад

It's good that you show what DOESN'T work. Everyone can learn from your mistake. At least you didn't have to unload it all by hand. ;-)

@mikenagy8310 2 года назад

Thanks for being human and humble. Great education!

@stump-bossBIll 2 года назад

Fine maybe even sandy dirt there - great heads up for those of us that get “caught up” in the moment of getting things done only to realize some prudence was overlooked. Hey at least nothing broke👍🏻🙏🏼 Hillbilly wisdom: If you don't take the time to do it right, you'll find the time to do it twice. 😉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻

@InspiredCraftsman 2 года назад

I've used the tractor to catch the lip of the front of the dump trailer and lift while running the lift function of the trailer. It's gotten me out of a couple pickles when I overloaded moving dirt around the property. (Overloaded trailer stayed on private property) I have an aversion to shovels after getting a tractor. Double check connections on the batteries and pump system, a loose wire can rob amp pulling ability.

@marvindiamonjr.9631 2 года назад

The biggest problem that I caused myself was to take my fully loaded dump trailer over uneven ground. Somehow weight was transferred from one axle to the other and bent that axle. I assume that going over a hump with a dip on the far side created that problem. Approaching the hump/dip combo, all of the axles were contacting the ground. When the front axle was on the hump, the rear axle still had ground contact. But when the rear axle went over the hump and the front axle was over the dip, the front axle was suspended for bit transferring all the weight to the back axle. How did I know the axle was bent? Well, it wasn't close enough to the frame for the tire to rub paint, but it did keep any dirt from building up on the frame. I could fit the palm of my hand between the tire and frame on three of the tires, but the bent one had no room to fit my hand. About a thousand dollars later, I'm back in business. This time, I'll make sure to keep my loaded trailer on level ground.

@TexasSheepdawg21 2 года назад

I kinda got a bad feeling When you put those first buckets of dirt and the forward end of the trailer. But at least you could get your skid steer in the trailer to get it all out. Some folks haven’t been that lucky and they had to shovel it out by hand. Imagine what would have been the weight of that dirt had a thunderstorm rolled in? Yikes. 😮

@randalmiddleton8068 2 года назад

Well your just having more fun than the rest of us... did the same last summer on much smaller scale wagon.

@jimmccullough1051 2 года назад

I have a much, much smaller dump trailer, it will hold 2 yards of leaves or mulch, but tops out at 1/2 yard of sand or dirt. Just because it fits doesn't mean you can always fill it up.

@Harry-zz2oh 2 года назад

Just like drinking; just because the glass is large, it doesn't mean you should fill it too much. You can only absorb a small amount before you get into trouble.

@SLCFarms 2 года назад

If ya ever over load it again use your loader to assist the lift. Once you get the bed up a couple inches they will usually go at that point. It just has to overcome those first few inches. We do it all the time.

@markronck3415 2 года назад

Good morning, and thanks for sharing about weight limits.

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

Have a good one Mark!

@realpdm Год назад

I've done something very similar to this. A while back I needed some dirt and I had this little harbor freight utility trailer I built some sides for. I calculated it could hold 3 yards of dirt by volume. I went to the materials place and asked for 3 yards please. The lady at the desk looked out the window at my Audi and little trailer and said "Can your trailer hold 6000 pounds?" "no, no it cannot, thank you so much for asking, I"ll take 1 yard please" . It struggled with that 1 yard even and I ended up bending the frame a good bit when I unloaded it from the rear and the tongue weight increased and bent the frame the jack was on.

@jackylsmith8138 Год назад

3 yards of dirt is well over 6,000 lbs well over 7,000.

@JCWren 2 года назад

Video quality, lighting, color all seemed pretty normal to me. I think if you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed. Please do a close-up and walk-around of the bull statue. That seems pretty unique and cool.

@GoodWorksTractors 2 года назад

Good deal, definitely easier to shoot with it. Hehe, that bull was supposed to be gone when we bought the house...apparently, it didn't get sold in the estate sale. Not sure we'll keep it or not. Will do a close up at some point.

@bradwilliams4921 2 года назад

Thanks for the lesson.

@angelgarciaochoa2165 2 года назад

I have a 4x4 welded to the front of the trailer were the box sits i found just the box setting 4in higher helps the my trailer dump and I always over load cuz I'm one man operation and no I don't drive on public roads its at my ranch

@philliptanner5313 2 года назад

I overloaded my trailer to where it wouldn't dump. Ended up hooking up front end loader to front of trailer to help hydraulics. You might have been able to lift with skidsteer helping

@philliptanner5313 2 года назад

Loading dirt in the back of the trailer is also why the Ford struggled. Tongue weight would have made it drive right out

@anindividual3889 Год назад

I've had this same struggle. I really like my dump trailer, but sometimes I am a little bit disappointed by the lift capacity. I have thought about reworking it and converting it from a hoist to a dual telescoping cylinder set up. I also want to convert it to a gooseneck as it is a bumper pull and I don't care for that.

@lifewaidan7517 Год назад

at that point just buy a different trailer. for the amount of work that would be it wouldn't be worth it

@kipcudd7253 2 года назад

You'll learn , I ain't saying nothing ! When I seen the trailer and knew what you were loading. Makes you wish you had an excavator to reach up and scrape it out. Had to do that many times in my past experiences driving a dump truck but we knew we'd need an excavator to scrape the beds out but we were hauling further than what you were hauling. I had a c5500 gmc with a drama with a 40' gooseneck. I was tagged for 42000 gvw and I was going thru the rockies and all over the LOWER 48 and Canada. Fun times. Yes I laughed and shook my head! Lol!

@pawsnazzy01 2 года назад

I was getting excited saying stop! STOP! and you kept on loading the trailer. lol Well you learned the hard way, and the next time your load sticks, use a small rock hammer and hit the underside of the trailer when it's up and you should be able to get the dirt to break loose.

@KevinLowery 2 года назад

There is a telescoping cylinder option at Diamond C that would work way better on that trailer. Scissor lift only work when the load is over the axles. If you put all that same dirt in the back 1/2 of the trailer it would have lifted just fine.

@Jtwizzle 2 года назад

He would still be almost 5 tons over, which for slow speed around the yard its probably fine.

@tyrrellroach5872 2 года назад

So that’s a 16ft dump with 4 ft sides. I’m guessing you had somewhere in the neighborhood of 25- 27 k in dirt on there. Years ago I had a 14 ft dump that I had the same problem with. The place I was getting dirt told me a skid loader bucket weighed about 1000 pounds. So I ordered 10 buckets I stopped the guy loading me due and asked how much do the buckets weigh I will never forget what he told me. Each bucket weighed about 1800 pounds by his estimate and I tend to believe home the dirt was going over the sides of the trailer and the tires were looking like they were struggling

@genotaylor9484 2 года назад

Load a few feet in front of your farthest forward axle. Load the rest to the back. Pulls fine and will dump. Obviously still don't overload. I do this with an old Bri-Mar tandem dual dump with a scissor hoist and it never struggles with 8 tons of rock or dirt.

@johnlucs1121 Год назад

You probably given your trailer a few love scratches and used the skid steer bucket to pick up the from of the dump trailer gently to help raise it while activating the dump button.

@funnywolffarm 2 года назад

The longer the trailer the more upside-down you are on leverage gain, which greatly hampers total lift. if you keep the vehicle side light you can maybe still packs the bottom 60% pretty well.

@timkopp2204 2 года назад

Fill the trailer only over the axles till its full, leaving the front empty. If it doesn't dump, tell the manufacturer you want your money back!

@Zanderthelab Год назад

Shoulda got a ram lol. Looking forward to a rebel package for the ram one ton.

@ColeyCLogan 2 года назад

Well, test it, can u dump 3 to 6 yards of mulch. From what i can see u would be better of w a flat triple axle equipment trailer. I have a Car Mate 6x10 dump (deck over), pull behind 50 year old Case tractor. Looks small behind truck but good behind tractor. But it dumps dirt and limestone very well.

@davidkettell5726 2 года назад

I think we have learner to do as you say but not what you do ,fun video though ,things do not always go as planned.

@ralphjelomono9068 2 года назад

It is a big trailer. Tall sides. My Big Tex 5 yard dump has a placard right on the side what max pay load is. But no way can i fill it full of gravel and expect it to work. I will exceed the limit. It will however dump max payload as long as the battery is strong. Possibly a stronger battery source my have helped??

@ThriftyGarage 2 года назад

Dump trailers are versatile but not the best. A dump truck is much better. That said I think a 7x12 or 7x14 is the optimal dump trailer size. Any longer and your dump angle and weight distribution suffers. New paint doesn't help as the dirt sticks and doesn't slide easily. I would have recommend bumping the trailer by backing up and braking hard to encourage some movement and you likely could have dumped it. That trailer (axles and frame) is probably more than capable of handling the weight you put on it. We have a 7x14 14k PJ dump trailer and it's a great all around trailer. I can haul a skid or mini ex (barely) as well as transport materials. But I can only haul about 1/3 what a 10 wheel dump truck could carry so it really starts to become inefficient.

@matthewboyd3297 2 года назад

I had that happen to me with sand. I brought my biggest tractor with forks to assist the hydraulics and finally got it to raise.

@Hickeyjones 2 года назад

That trailer isn't designed optimally. I can see two flaws immediately. A- The axles are a little too far back. B-the main pivot for the dump bed has almost zero cantilever built into it, it's too near the end of the bed. I have a Load Trail 14' deck over dump trailer I use for gravel and dirt. My buddy has a 16' dump trailer by Big Tex. His pivot is like this Diamond C and he can't put more than 10k of dirt/gravel in the bed or he can't dump it. I've had as much as 13k in mine and it will still dump easily, since my main pivot is about 2' forward of the rear of the bed. IPhone footage looks great. I'd like to hear more about the tripods and editing systems you use. Even without the flaws in design, you definitely overloaded that trailer, maybe by twice it's weigh capacity. When the load material sticks to the bed, hitting the bed with a mallet from the bottom while the bed is raised has helped me a lot.

@psdleach Год назад

Tilt your bucket forward slowly as you raise the boom and you want have hardly anything spill back on yourself. I’m sure your skid steer has an auto level feature

@bj.roberts6410 2 года назад

I really learned something thanks for the information wow

@mikeharris2985 2 года назад

It good to do less then to do more. Put less in and make more trips then putting too much in and making more work and costing you more time also. Like a man said you have to know your limitation lol Eastwood 😜. Thanks for your videos we learn as you learn on things have a good day

@Kevin-xy3yr Год назад

To everyone who thinks this is the trailer problem go take a look at the size, axles, tires etc of vehicles that haul dirt, gravel or sand commercially. A dump truck that could haul that volume of dirt would be a huge with lots of axles. This type of trailer is a great mulch, brush hauler plus you can put a skid steer into it. They are very popular with tree removal business industry.

@1563smb 2 года назад

I had a dump trailer and had to pile just the back quarter up to the top, then it would dump. It seemed very disappointing that you couldn't fill it full of dirt and dump it .

@Jtwizzle 2 года назад

Well it would weigh a LOT of you could fill it all the way up. Would not be safe at all outside of your yard.

@winkdinkerson7190 2 года назад

If I ever bought a dump trailer, I’d insist on twin hydraulic lift cylinders to ensure sufficient lift capacity regardless of load.

@ericcrockett479 2 года назад

Actually the twin cylinders aren't any stronger. Yes you have 2 pushing instead of 1 but they are mounted further back on the trailer and counteract the extra cylinders power. The front mount telescopic cylinder will definitely dump anything you can put in the trailer

@JustinPhipps. Год назад

Scissor lift dump needs help getting started when overloaded. Get the box a few inches off the frame and the lift will usually take over from there. In this situation I use a bottle jack under the box to get it started or you can place a 4x under the front of the box before loading if you think there will be an issue lifting. Reason is the scissor mechanism is pushing horizontally when all the way down and can’t get enough vertical push to start the lift when overloaded

@tractorboy31 Год назад

Im not sure what brand it is but i borrowed nieghbors 14k dump trl after getting material for her with it. I wanted 3 yards of topsoil and first trip up to pit they loaded me but i was way too light so had to go back up for more. Then my second load they dumped more in to start and when i went to scale out i was like 29k gross. My trk wieghs 9k and the dump trl i believe is around 5k. So im guessing i had around 15k of dirt and trl says 10k dump limit. I dumped out a bit and shovel some back forward for tongue wieght. Nieghbors trl is a single tripple stage ram like a dump trk and didnt have a problem unloading around 50% overload and my 97 f350 7.3ps in the pit had no issues with that wieght

@williamlaird2136 2 года назад

Don't know exactly how large you dump trailer is but when we rent a 40 yard dumpster they say that only 12 inches deep with dirt, concreate or gravel. I almost destroyed my truck when I was doing landscaping when I thought I would put a yard of topsoil in the bed. When the operator at the supply yard asked if I wanted it in one trip I answered yes. Huge mistake. It put my truck on the bump stops and why it didn't cause the tires to blow out, I will never understand. Fortunately the job was close the the supply yard and I CAREFULLY drove back to the job, scared to death that the tires would roll off the rim. My lesson learned the hard and SCARY way.

@Morgan2XL 2 года назад

Same happened with crush on a 3/4 ton trailer one wheel tore out of the lug bolt circle. An other time I parked it and my wife filled it so full of rock that the frame bent.

@brandonjones4666 Год назад

Yeah… been there, done that with a dump trailer lol.. lol I’ve even done it with my dump truck at the landfill. I’ve had a loader with a rake, assist me a few times to get my bed up actually.

@jnblawnandlandscapellc Год назад

And here I thought Diamond C was the best. The trailer was definitely not full. Seems like the only reason to get a high side dump trailer would be leaf cleanups

@larryabe8905 2 года назад

I've owned several dump trailers. Only one of them actually pulled the electric power from the truck. It does not have an internal battery to run the pump. It has 1/0 wire running from truck batteries to the pump. That was a tremendous help. 2nd the deck height of the trailer will make a big difference in getting material that sticks to the deck out. Higher the deck the higher you can lift before the rear hits the ground. This creates a steeper angle material slides outs. My deck height is 40".

@daveschmidt5713 2 года назад

"Success" not always the best teacher.

@brianwiechman1056 2 года назад

I have a 16ft dump trailer I have filled with dirt and never had a problem with it dumping.

@danacray413 2 года назад

My name is Dana Cray and I would like to suggest that you check out Sure Trac dump trailers. I had the same problem with my first dump trailer and did some research,them I found Sure Trac trailers and haven't had that problem since. I have a 14k bumper pull and it will lift everything i put in it. The only thing I have to worry about is breaking an axel if I put too much in it.

@aaronsbarker 2 года назад

Double acting direct connection hydraulic ram at the front of the trailer is the strongest lift capabilities. You can add a vibrator system to the dump that will break up and ease the unloading of "sticky" material. What might have worked better for your issue was to use the skid loader to help lift the dump body as the hydraulics would have held it up once it was raised, but just didn't have the umph to lift it.

@stuartrinker 2 года назад

This has happened to me a couple times. Our solution was to use our loader to assist and help lift the bed.

@fuddrucker74 2 года назад

That's fraught with danger too. The box was built to match the capabilities of the rams. If you take and lift with a machine the weight could cause the box to buckle in the middle of the span of the box. Also, there are no static lift points to assist at. Meaning, you very well might rip the front of the box up too. You have to know what the capacity of your equipment is and then be aware of what doubling or trippling that limit involves. He's lucky he didn't blow out the suspension while climbing up there with the track loader

@fuddrucker74 2 года назад

@@82ndpara21 any load that supercedes the trailers capabilities to the extent it won't budge it off the deck frame is potentially damaging. Add in the fact that the track loader is another 12000 lbs +, you can see what you're dealing with this trailer was overloaded by AT LEAST twice is rates limit. That's not 4k over. Off the top of my head it was probably 10-15k over.ive been over 4k before because I accepted the risks involved. And i had the means to get the item 4 off if it didnt lift. Which it did. This wasn't that.

@fuddrucker74 2 года назад

You have to know what the capacity of your equipment is and then be aware of what doubling or trippling that limit involves. You're lucky you didn't blow out the while climbing up there with the track loader. There's no replacement for experience. Snd you only get that THROUGH experience. Even though that material is well aerated it was still (as you found out) exceedingly heavy. You need roblearnnthe relative weights of material that are going in the trailer. But again, that only comes through experience. I'm glad nothing was broken and you got off with just some extra work and a story you can use as a cautionary tale.

@gilbertfagley7837 2 года назад

Here is my story of over loading my util trailer. I had an old frame of popup camper (6ft x 11ft) that a had put PT plywood floor on it and side boards around it. (I think the old camper had a weight rating of 3000 pounds but I had only reg as 2000 pounds so I wouldn't need a title). so hadn't been used much for a couple of years so the tires had been in bad shape. friend had extra dirt and I had a need for some fill. I made a couple of trips of trips with loading the dirt on the front of the trailer so to spreed some of the load onto the truck hitch. (didn't want to blow out a tire) all was fine until I decided to get new tires for it on the 4th trip. So we used the tractor to load more dirt onto the trailer like we had been doing. loaded the dirt onto the front half of the trailer (between the hitch and the axle). so as I didn't have the fear of the tires blowing out, we loaded more and more dirt to the front half. (if we had spread-ed the dirt out on the full length of the trailer we would have been fine but that wasn't what happen). so I had left his house and went down the road until I hit the first big bump. yep, folded the the front frame at the A frame were it met the box frame of the rest of the trailer. so had to shovel the dirt to the back of the pickup by hand and make multiple trips to empty the trailer. managed to straiten the frame of the trailer so it wasn't dragging on the ground and got the trailer home. so after rebuilding the frame (got good at welding by the time I got done) of the trailer, it is still in use today. I still LOL about the dumb things you do when you don't think out about it first. I have pictures of the opps and the rebuild of it. I have another popup that will become my new future util trailer when I have the time to do the build. It is a little bigger, has a higher weight limit (over 3500 pounds) and electric brakes. I plan to beef up the frame in the same place when I build the util trailer.

@philsmock4943 2 года назад

I'm sure not laughing at you Courtney. Stuff happens and you just deal with it. Thanks for sharing.

@bondjamesbond1151 Год назад

I have a16ft gooseneck PJ and I learned the hard way never put any material like dirt or rock in the front put it right over the axles or just a tad in front also my trailer is rated to haul 12k lbs i usually get 5 or 6 yds depending on how wet it is and i can say for sure that sometimes 5 or 6 exceeds 12k lbs but as long as you don't load to the front it dumps it every time the key is keeping the load over or behind the lift cylinder hopefully you'll have better luck next time.