The Most Exciting Ship For Coal Is Fun Again | Pommern 

"A fun alternative to the [Tech Tree T9], not outright better." In other words, exactly what premiums are supposed to be.

My Pom game consists of usually having my torpedo tubes permanently destroyed in the first salvo or two, being on fire if I'm spotted, and half my secondaries being blown away by the time I ever get them in range despite having the secondary health module.

Slapped a new secondary/main gun hybrid on my pommern and went for a match. Over 520 secondary hits, 12 fires and about 220k worth of dmg. Weegee has done some insanely stupid shit as of late. Buffing secondaries was not one of them.

When I heard about the incoming secondary changes, I put off grinding the Bismark until they dropped. And boy, was I not disappointed. Even stock and bottom tier, it's a ton of fun. With IFHE, I was able to outduel a Montana. I'm averaging 115k per game. In a stock Bismark. Good times.

Hey PQ, auxiliary armaments mod does not double your torp launcher's HP. The main armaments mod does so, but only 50% more.

My experience with Pommern mirrors yours exactly. You can now build for secondaries and be effective, and still have reasonable survivability. Most fun BB in the game I think. One correction: it is Odin who has a fighter, not Pommern.

It probably should be noted that Auxiliary Armaments Modification 1 does not apply to torpedoes. They are covered under Main Armaments Mod. 1. You imply the opposite a couple times in the video (7:00 for example).

My friend has a Pommern. He was struggling with playing it so last night, I went and got myself one and we divisioned and played a lot of games until the server reset this morning. It is a lot of fun. Just have to be careful and don't push hard unless you have a lot of friends pushing with you. There were times we held a flank as the enemy just decided not to push into two Pommerns.

After the rework Pommern is a beast! Before the rework, after they ruin secondary ships, playing with Pommern was like punching your own face.

"FDG is a surprisingly good tier IX" That is a first for me. I hated that ship. But then again, I am not in the mood to play the type of BB that got me into playing this game. That is how far down the gameplay has deteriorated for me.

I am so happy to hear this news. I have been getting ready to buy my first full coal ship. Wanted to buy the Pommern then they nerfed secondaries. Was hoping this buff would make it great again.

Fall in love with the Pommern as soon as it came out. I pay with old since I didn't have coal for it. Worth it.

Thinking through the commander skills and upgrades. Your approach makes sense.

Your build actually makes sense the more I think about it. One gripe I've always had with Pommern since buying it was the maneuvrability, so taking rudder shift does alleviate that somewhat, and that in turn helps you rack up potential damage for that healing skill. I just don't know if it's really a viable option over AR because that dpm increase with every chip off my health is just too invaluable. I am open to discussion regarding this because demounting upgrades is also free right now.

Really appreciated your thought process discussion. Great info!!

This is actually looks really fun, I just can’t bring myself to play it anymore. The secondaries were my favorite and I’m so soured on the game, even if they’re back im not interested anymore.

I got pommern a few month ago and I was disappointed, but I played it yesterday night and it was so fun! Now I like it lol

I came back when beta testing was in the last phase & was told secondaries were returning. I'm so happy I didn't get the Thunderer before I took a break!

Ok, here's the question Potato Quality, should I get Gunther Lutjens or the Pommern first?

WG buffs and nerfs change as fast as the weather.

I think I said this on one of your other videos, but I'll say it again: Your tone has improved so much in the last few weeks or so that it's quite a pleasure to listen to you and watch you play. Whatever you're doing to make you a happier person, please keep that up. Love the videos, particularly the nature thing you're doing at the end of the videos. 10 of 10. I also agree with you on the concealment. Four points is a lot to spend just to not be spotted for another 1.5 Km or whatever. You get lots of good upgrades for four points, and half your games are going to include a CV anyway, where you're going to be spotted when you don't want to be spotted anyhow. I've been running a Jean Bart without concealment for a while now. One day I'll figure it out, but until then, I'm having fun. I also agree with you on the AR skill. I don't see it as being as useful as being able to put out fires, especially with HE being slung all over the map.

Why is WG'S English pretty much flawless when apologising but always obscure, misscommunicated or lost in translation when they try ripping off the multi lingual playerbase, with easily confused ship, gambling crates or event descriptions.

It was really a last minute decision for me, between the Pommern and Marco Polo, i'm glad i chose the former. I run it with IFHE and after the patch those secondaries just shred. I had fun playing the Pomm before the patch, now i'm having a blast!

Everyone:"Pommern is so fun ship" Meanwhile: *Me getting 400 coal per day and having 30k coal in inventory without any skill to get those 10k from rankeds*

Interesting build, might give it a try. Tried a few things on Pommern but didn't feel like I can give up the preventative maintenance for torpedo survival. Have been running the consumable mod and maximum survivability on Kremlin for a tournament and had a bit of fun trying it in randoms with like a 24k heal or something like that, I can see some situations where the extra heal time comes in handy if you're a secondary brawler. By the way pq, if you haven't looked at Schlieffen yet, it will have both the German pen and actual USN premium secondary accuracy. With something like 50% more secondary dpm on one side than GK on one side when both are maxed out. And almost stealth secondaries. But worse angles for secondaries. Choosing the 4 pointers might become really really difficult for that new line. But I am slightly hyped to see what they can do. And then there's the Brandenburg with I believe pretty much the same turret, torpedo and secondary angles while almost having the same secondary damage output as a Pommern thanks to the extra turret. It is a good time for brawling gameplay, too bad being a player of a Wargaming product is not the best time you can have in gaming at the moment.

Pommern main guns are just Bismarck guns, but 3 barrels per turret

I've been playing the Pomm since Flamu set this ship for secondaries a long time ago. It's been fun even before the last patch.

Decided to run my Tirpitz with a secondary build (Captain from my Bismark) and been seeing a lot of Pommern's. Been having a lot of fun with my Tirpitz,and running into brawling range with a teammate Pommern together brawling is pretty amazing, so many secondary rounds going off it melts enemy DD's and cruisers. Even BB's have problems with it. When playing against the Pommern, mostly in my DD's, the hydro is pretty powerful up close. I have missed it a lot while running my Tirpitz. I was looking at the Napoli since I only have one tier 10 cruiser and already have a lot of German premium ships.... but the Pommern is really looking good. I may need to get it and keep saving for the Napoli later.

Me who literally just bought Napoli: 0_0

Flamu has a very good point: why punishing you for changing targets? You are punished for not being passive and select the optimum target over time for your secondaries which is stupid. From that point of view, it is not as good as before the captain skill rework.

7:11 damn, if only i have atleast 1 enemy rushing in, i can experience the full secondaries experience :'D

definitely a fun ship 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 great vid 👏🏼👏🏼😁👌🏻

Popped up in my recommended again for some reason and I thought I missed a new Pommern buff :(

In Georgia I get away not using fire-prevention, its fast and stealthy and has improved heal. I can disengage at any time so HE spamm is usually not an issue.

I think Flamu mentioned these are Gneisenau guns, not Bismarck guns, at t9. The penetration is lower

It's weird that vigilance stacks with hydro, but the torpedo lookout upgrade does not. Preventative maintenance actually does help the torpedo tubes stay alive a little, and make up for the lack of main mods 1.

I'm one of the dudes (we're dozens!!!) that just wishes that WoWs was a 40-50 even $60 game that just had everything unlocked, maybe getting higher tier ships by just no. of games played, or certain missions. I can't play every day and if I play, it's 3 hours max so getting premium time isn't worth it. I just wish everything was unlocked, maybe pay for skins without getting benefits, just looks, like in DotA 2 for example. Even a season pass would be good with a few unique missions and some cool unlocks. It's just my 2 cents about the game after uninstalling it today after 2 games where I was deleted by Dutch airstrikes. Love your video, PQ! Cheers!

I’m saving for either the Napoli or Pommern

Do you take IFHE? Ignore that why don't you take IFHE?

Thank you for making this video, i was wondering which one should i get marco polo or pommern and this video cleared all my doubts. Gonna get pommern, though still need about 40k coal 😢

It's a fun ship but I'm so torn between using Lutjens on the pommern or the G.K. Thing is pommern needs ifhe for secondaries to work and on the G.K ifhe feels like it's a waste of skill because u lose fire chance and you already got 32mm of pen by default

Hey PQ, actually, to increase torpedo survivability, you need to use Main Armaments Mod 1. Auxiliary Armaments Mod 1 just improves secondary and AA mount durability. At least that's what the wiki says...

Great video, Pommern top of the coal list for me. Good to see some turret locking going on there as well. Don't see it used enough. Pro.

The auxiliary mod doesn't help the torpedos since they are counted as main armaments so taking preventative maintenance + main armament mod might be a good idea for Pommern

Very nice, so Vigilance is added on top of hydro, is that correct? Also Im really looking forward to hear your opinion on Georgia / Ohio sec. builds. I enjoy your content a lot and also like your more humble approach. Like you said in the last video you came off a bit..different in your starting videos and overall this a much nicer, welcoming attitude. Thumbs up man

MMM Secondaries, quite Succulent... :D ;)

My Pommern Plans got Derailed by Napoli, and I'm NEVER going to Cry over that, Napoli is a Hoot and Change.... Pommern however is STILL my Next Coal Boat unless WG finds a Way to Derail it again.... I love getting in Close, Hate Sniping.... I Drive Roma, never used THAT Commander Skill, built it Strictly as a Colse Combat Knife Fighter.... I used the 2nds Build Principle to Boost the Main Battery not for the 2nds, and Built it to a 21sec Turret Traverse as well..... If Roma had Torp's, it'd be an EVIL Boat.... Used the Same Build on Tirpitz and Kii as I did Roma, so I'd just do it again o. Pommern....

Just unlocked it, loving it

I was saving for Napoli. I wanted a kind of ship I don't have but I have always been eyeing Pommern. Hmm... If I had the German special commander, I don't think there would be any question. Hmm... thinking! And thanks for the garden clips at the end. Always nice to see :)

georgia is a good alternative if you want firepower and secondaries. The amount of fires you get is pretty disgusting now.

Hope to see you play the Brandenburg and Schlieffen when they come out. But know you said not going to buy premiums.

I just picked it up and played it alll day....holy smokes this ship is fun! I dunno why but the main batteries just work for me.....

Im looking forward to secondary montana tests. Already did some tests myself but wanna see your take on it. I found the improved usa heal combined with a heal based build lets you skip the extra heal skill. since you got like 80k of potential healing capacity with only 4 heals already. wich is enough. so you can run conceal, FP and manual without giving up on healing capacaty wich is kinda cool

Pommern and Graf Zeppelin. Which is more accurate secondaries?

I have enough coal to purchase either the Pommern or the Napoli. I was set on the Napoli but this video has me thinking. What offers a more fun and unique experience?

Ap shells stick on German battleship like flies on a catching ribbon.

Submarines have arrived!😂 Fun will be interupted

Pommern torp tubes break permanently if you just look at them. So, you cannot rely on them while doing a drive by.

i get it a week ago, and is really fun to play now. i have a lot of fun on it.

@Potato Quality would Pommern be worth it if I allready have Sharnhorst and Tirptiz B or would it essentially be more of the same?

Really love the Pommern. Noticed it on the Tirpitz as well. I think German BBs benefit from this in general. i wonder if the coming Brandenberg will be the same.

wonder if Napoli is a better option for coal now...?

I had I nice brawl with a Pommern earlier today in a G Kurfürst. He would’ve won if it weren’t for a Montana helping me out.

ive been torn between pommern or marceau. typically im a bb main but have been enjoying french dd line. i also already have massa and georgia. was leaning marceau but after this vid scales tipping toward pommern

You already featured this video on the CC Exodus video my guy lol.....

Im using the faster heal perk on Yamato and its decent (in some games while having 2 heals left i was already on 62s cd from 76s base, i switched engine mod to fire reduce one + flag = 2 modificators for fire reduce, so 3rd basicly is useless as its diminishing return. I am thinking of switching it to the tier 1 3% DCP/heal perk + Vigilance (as on roma that worked epic) and with 25% more detection of torps even Yamato has better chances to dodge and you cant currently stop thanks to all the present CV's + stupid air strikes etc. That build would probably also work nice on currywurst.

What happened to your Navigator mod? (ship angles)

Yoo PQ, you recycling an older recording? Thought you were gonna pull a sneaky on us? Still, good video!

Closing in on 24K Subs!

My experience in game when I see your dispertion in your replay , I think we dont have same game. That game frustrate me today. hard and to close to the impossibility to have pleasure

I still enjoy my Bayern at Tier 6. Great Video potato. I'm sure I'll try it out!

Can you make video which commander skills to use on battleships.

I saw ur video with the repubilique and this ship with sec build, you should try out the Alsace sec build with high fire chance and the most sec guns of any ship in the game

Awesome - you showed skills and modules - thx ;-)

Hey @PotatoQuality_, just a quick question for clarification. You said at end that “potential damage our heal comes back faster with our skill”. So which skill is this?

well explained ... thanks ..

So they named this ship after an doggie? That's dope..... Sorry I just watched some Lizza little brown girl coming at yah. She's so adorable 😍.

it is a fun ship. However, have you notice how fast the secondaries take dmg even with AAM1 in slot one? without AAM1 it is ridiculous how fast they take dmg... I not sure if a change was made to pom's mechanics. I don't remember them being this easy to take out.

Trying to make a decision. In Sept 2021 what is the best coal ship at this moment?

So, was it only German secondaries that got the buff, or they buffed secondaries for all?

Accept they nerfed preventative maintenance in silence. I'm barely getting through matches with any turrets left... Because PM no longer protects secondaries or AA mounts....

Is Pommern a interesting sidegrade for someone who owns a GK with legendary upgrade?

I can't seem to get used to high tier games, haven't been able to survive long enough for secondary's to do much

Ooh could you make a FDG video plz?

i felt like german bb main bat got buffed secretly, im hitting much more citadel now... idk tho

I am missing less than 2k coal for the pommern if I use the coupon. On the other hand, I started farming for my first steel ship on which I wanted to use the coupon. Does anyone know how often the coupons are given out / if I should use it on the pommern or save it for a steel ship?

That's my exact build!

should we put IFHE on pommern for the 32mm pen on 105?

Hail Hydro!

First here and ready to watch! :) And looking forward to this ship, almost have all the coal for it

Hey, PQ, do you think it is good to give up 5% incoming dispersion from concealment module?

Love this ship! Got it just b4 10.7 and is very very nice. Love this gameplay. Ps. Wanna have fun? T7 German BB.

1368 secondary shells fired and 357 hits = 26% hit rate, that's GK level before all the fucking around with secondary's !

Imagine a GK with torps and fighter planes.

How do you set a priority target to get your secondaries to start the better accuracy build up?

The auxillary mod in slot 1 doenst work with torps only sec and aa...you need Main armament mod 1 for the tubes

Isn't the skill for fire (1 point) better for secondary bbs than the one for -3% on repair party ? because it can help a little bit more with fire

What do you think about using this build on Georgia?

improved repair is very useful, tank enough and you get close to 60 seconds

"most ppl are pretty aware of whats going on" hahahahaha what fantasy server are you playing on