The Most Frustrating Jubilee Video I've Ever Seen "Do All People With Down Syndrome Think The Same?" 

I appreciate how mad you got because of the lady moving the girl who said she can take care of herself. That really pissed me off, too.

I get what her mom was doing- but that was so unnecessary! She could've let her have that one moment to feel like she could. Ridiculous.

who woulda thought the adult without a neurological disorder would be the clueless in the room

I knew a girl in high school i ended up being friends with her. She didnt talk diffrren tly and didnt have diminished mental capacity or anything, she just looked slightly differently. She always used to ask me to hang out outside of school, like personally, but i used to decline all the time and i would say a white.lie as to the reason. I hope she didnt think i didnt wanna get too close to her becausd she was slightly different or sonethibg, i actually declined because i was into drugs and other self harm and knew i wouldnt be any good for her outside of being an acquaintance. I always wonder how she is and what she ended up doing. It hurts me to think that maybe she did thinm the exact thing i didnt want her to think.

I had a friend who would always say “ew,” to people with Down Syndrome, too. So, what do you think happened? He eventually had a daughter who was born with Down Syndrome. Now he gets offended by the “R” word. Which is ironic, because I never thought of his daughter as that, but I always thought of him as that for disliking ppl w Down Syndrome 😆

I know people without disabilities who can’t take care of a kid and can’t understand that they can’t so this is profound.

i cant belive the mother who made her daughter go into the disagree section. sure its a white lie but like why wouldnt you just let her do it. seems like it would be way more harmful to embarrass her like that. If you really had a problem with it you would tell her after the show. Seems like she just wanted credit for being her care taker.

When grace mom moved her it broke my heart. I genuinely respect papa for having same thought I did. Why not let her just have a little self esteem and allow her to just have this moment of thinking that. She may not but she does have a Disability, mYbe in some ways she does feel like she can take care herself or maybe she doesn't fully understand all aspects of life. Nate the mom need take look at herself. I would never do that to my child whether right or not. Let him be happy with his confidence..this mom should do the same. Now she will have less or lower self esteem just on her mom humiliating her . I so upset w this mother

Thank you for taking the time to educate others and sharing you experience. And an extra thank you for your wife for being a direct support professional! My son has a genetic syndrome, not down syndrome but another genetic syndrome that is much more rare. The DSP that work with him are so amazing and so underpaid & under appreciated by the agency that employs them but I make sure they know that our family appreciates them immensely. Thank you for educating your subscribers on how folks with neurodiversities, like Down syndrome, are just regular people, with regular feelings & urges and regular experiences just like those who are neurotypical, or folks don’t have neurodiversities. This was a great video Papa!

You can tell how the mom smiled at the end of her clip that she wanted to be in the video soooooo bad and would rather embarrass her daughter in front of everybody in a video she knows is gunna get views for a couple seconds of screen time then let her daughter lie about how she can’t take a bath alone. Jeez

My grandma helped raise me. She has been a home provider for adults with developmental disabilities for 40 years and I am glad I was raised around them. I learned empathy and respect from a young age. They are great people and fun to hang with! She helps place them into homes and make sure the helpers are the right fit (and not abusive or just money hungry). One woman had a huge sparkly engagement ring and would tell me she was engaged to someone different every week lol

Absolutely shameful to me they filmed that part with the mom. Let the gal have a moment. Everyone else was to one side and to embarrass her in front of millions for no reason was absolutely unbelievable to me. They should have just let the gal have a moment. It did nothing for the video but upset

In high school my throwing coach was also the special needs teacher. One of his students had Down syndrome and autism. He would come out and throw shot put and discus with us. Dude was actually a pretty funny dude

as someone who wants to work in special education, the part where the mom moved her daughter to “disagree” literally broke my heart. i was in tears. that poor girl, you’re so right. that was none of our fucking business & she should be so ashamed of herself for doing that to her daughter. honestly, shame on Jubilee for leaving that shit in. since your wife works in the mental health field, i’m so glad you talked about this. you’re so right that she’s clearly functioning to some capacity, she has a job?? they put such high expectations on their children, it’s such a shame. again, thank you for speaking on this.

I wonder if that woman didn't want her to say she could take care of herself cuz then she wouldn't get benefits??

23:23 PAPA! I have had the same exact fear / sentiment for YEARS! It's a bizarre fear, it's like a conspiracy theory of yourself. I've always wondered if all my friends are just being nice to me, and treat me "normal". That everyone thinks what I'm saying is profound because they think it's cute. That my parents have never told me I have autism or a serious intellectual disability because they didn't want to hurt my feelings. Obviously, I know it's very silly but it's funny how some people think this. Most people I have met that wonder this ironically seem like people with a higher IQ than average / are deep thinkers, which I find quite funny. I'm glad someone else has thought the same thing before. It's a wild idea but funny to think about.

I've noticed that about the R word myself. Like you have people and schools that will say not to use it but the majority still do. I think it's because people have been taught that it's not that big of a deal. Like it's somehow not as bad as the n-word or the f-word.

No one cares about the R word. My coworker got called the R word by one of the pharmacist. The other pharm tech joined in and called him stupid. He told them to stop, but they kept the joke going and he started crying at work. The pharmacist and that pharm tech refused to apologize because “jokes” and my coworker didn’t want to file a report with HR so nothing happened.

The mother that felt the need to destroy her daughter’s confidence made me fucking cry. How dare you. She was independent enough to agree to doing this and showing up.

The mom legitimately upset me. Also. This whole thing is about what THEY THINK, if she is of the opinion that she can take care of herself she should be able to voice that. That wasn’t her place. She completely undermined her daughter and aired her private information. AND WHY?

Just to play devils advocate, and for the record I wholeheartedly agree with all your points regarding that girl and her interaction with her mom, with that being said, in a space filled with by the looks of it, higher functioning and successful individuals with down syndrome, it is important to display the other side of things. To show that all people with down syndrome aren't the same and they all have their own unique abilities and talents, just like neurotypical people do. Though I believe the mom went about this the wrong way, it is good to recognize that its okay to not be entirely self sufficient, and its always acceptable to get help in agrees of struggle, so long as you are doing your best to accomplish what you can.

I was a direct support professional for five years. Thank you for bringing awareness to the way we’re treated. I loved my Down syndrome clients. Fun fact: most of them have impeccable rhythm 😍 great dancers!

"this guy's a poon slanger" I'm fucking dying 💀💀

So many interesting topics here, I’ve been involved in the “ *End the R word campaign*” since 2010 ish. When I went to the first rally for work, and hearing the kids share their stories was heartbreaking. The word doesn’t just hurt people with DS as well. On the topic of should non disabled date developmentally disabled isn’t a clear cut topic. Sadly the most cases I’ve seen of this has mostly been an aggressive overbearing/abusive person dating them as a way to be able to take advantage of them, it’s heartbreaking to see, but just like everyone else if your deemed able to consent there isn’t a whole lot one can do.

A family mine was very close to growing up has a severely disabled son with down syndrome. Nonverbal and in no way able to take care of himself other than the bathroom. Everyone loves him, he's like a big baby, for lack of a better term. He displayed caring gestures and recognized people, and had a very basic sense of humor and gameplay. You don't have to be a fully functional adult for people to enjoy your company.

Me just now realizing that people still use the R word.

I think people continue to say the R word because they don’t direct it at a certain group of people. Its just another way to say dumb/stupid for them. At least thats how I thought of it and why I still sometimes slip up and say it. Nobody cares if you call your friends dumb, but if you call a person with down syndrome dumb? TOTALLY different ball game. Its about the way its used.

@23:80 My sister is on the spectrum and I have these things scheduled out for her because she NEEDS it. It's not that she has to do it or there is a higher level of expectation rather that's where the difference lies. IE: My sister has to wash her clothes every Saturday and she has to do it within 2 hours of starting. Unlike most of us who can go weeks, like papa gut described, we have that little thing in the back of our minds that says "Hey, you're procrastinating you gotta do that laundry.." Some may think "But will be forced to because eventually they will run out of clothes.." In my sister's case, that isn't how her brain works. If she runs out of cloths, she'll put on the dirty clothes she has on. Why 2 hours, otherwise she will start it saturday and finish it on sunday, leaving her laundry to sit overnight. Again, this is something that isn't that strange because all of us have done that one point but we understand that what we are putting on is dirty with the little voice, again saying "You REALLY gotta do laundry.." If I allow it, she will NEVER think of washing her clothes and forever spot treat any little things that may fall on it. Also you can't "just allow it for fun". The mother is being filmed and likely has some sort of conservatership and if her daughter just stands on the line that say "I strongly agree I can take care of myself"; she sets herself up for ALL kinds of legal trouble. To anyone in this care taker position, if you know you know. They are regular people but not, they need assistance like how some of us need glasses. Also something NEVER discussed, is the dark side of it, something that people willing never address. If one is to understand they are just like normal regular people, then keep in mind how often there are assholes mixed in there. Source: Taking care of my sister since I was 18 and her 16, and would still wouldn't change it but it has NOT always been rainbows and sunshine.

You know what Italian Santa Claus- I learned a lot from this video. And I'm glad I watched it.

I couldn't agree more Papa. You were spot on with this video and the Mom absolutely should not of embarrassed her like that.

Papa, I absolutely adore you and your wife. I always find your honesty so refreshing, especially since you don’t give a fuck how people will react. I just have one comment about parents who have adult children with disabilities, and that is it’s very difficult for the family members in question sometimes. I’m a behavioral health tech, like your wife, and I see it all the time with families who have a member with a serious mental illness. Rarely do people offer empathy to the family, as oftentimes the compassion is solely given to the individual with the illness. A lot of the time the parent thinks they are doing the best thing for their family member by placing them in a group home, not to mention they may not be able to care for the member on their own. It’s very draining, too, no matter how much you love your family member with the disability. I just had to point it out, although I agree the mother from the video was quite overbearing. I’m referring to other parents in the same kind of position.

Papa gut can you make 2 Jubilee videos one called does everyone with HIV think the same, another one is can capitalist and socialist middle ground.

23:13 BRO💀

Thank you for speaking up and educating others Papa.

At my school we had a special ed program in each school and they would be in our elective classes, and you could also take a class to help out with them, but i def think that helped us learn that they are normal people

Papa i love you but i think its time to get water filter and a reusable water bottle XD

I’m grateful my highschool had number of students with disabilities and there was a whole campaign against the r-word. They made a football event about it as well. It did make a difference I really never hear people say it in real life, only online. Even when you did that interview the other day cringed when she said it.

The whole thing is how they THINK about themselves anyway. So the point wasn't even if she CAN just if she thinks she can. That shouldn't have been allowed. No matter the disability you're not allowed to dictate how someone thinks about themselves.

You not using google chrome ruined my day

They all don't think the same, but they all look the same. Moral of the story is to always wear a belt.

your humor is so good lmao

The more I think about that one girl and her mother the more it irritates me. I have a sister with learning disabilities. She isn't always good at communicating her feelings. But she knows how she feels. And she can tell how other people feel. Recently we found a fun game called "things" which is kind of like apples to apples and you have to know the personalities of the people you play with. My sister with learning disabilities is great at that game! It's hard for her to communicate but she knows what people are like. All that to say, this one girl, may not know how to communicate the idea "I need help taking care of myself but I don't know how to say that without embarrassing myself so I just don't want to talk about it". But through all that she understands EMBARRASSMENT. And what happens with her mom? HER MOM EMBARRASSES HER. FUUUUU

Aww thank you for this video I work with children with autism and Down’s syndrome and I can’t imagine a world without them. The r word should never be used and it should be a hate crime just like using the n word!

Okay the Kia Soul joke got me rolling 🤣 36:03

17:25 PAPA LMAO i burned my lip laughing at that shit mid bite of my pizza 💀

26:39 Not gonna lie made me tear up a bit how she smiled and how this excuse of a Woman looks at her like Columbus probably looked at the people he traded for slavery.

22:30 let's be honest pap, isn't this literally minimum requirement as a preface of anything regarding children?

DUCK DYNASTY! LMFAOOOO, that completely send me, papa

If you thought the guy with the undercut was hard and R t-shirt was hard to understand, I go to school with a friend who can barely speak words, and let alone a full sentence. So to see the other girl laughing at him like the kids in my school enraged me

The word ‘retard’ is a medical term. Shouldn’t be banned

My thing with the R word is that I do use it, but I would never use it when talking to or about someone with mental disabilities. I do say it as an insult, as I think it’s no worse or better than stupid, moron, idiot, etc. But those who use it when referencing people with mental disabilities should absolutely consider changing their vocabulary

This is very thought provoking, because i agree with his point on DS people having kids but i feel so wrong at the same time.

That Guy Sean, the one in the blue shirt with the R, was on a show called Born This Way on A&E. He was always trying to be the ladies man on that show

i'm fucking offended this was even a suggestion

That’s why sir you don’t Judge before knowing someone!!

Believe it or not that's how most people perceive disabled people. You just don't normally say that they are unnecessary because you know better because they are people with feelings but doesn't stop that from being the case however

I want to know why they always do “Do [insert attention grabbing thing] think the same?” Like what’s the point of always doing the same thing with slight changes? Also they’re literally profiting off of people with Down syndrome and other disorders they use. When the mom moved grace she looked so fucking proud of herself after grace said thank you. I already know that wasn’t a grateful thank you. It was a “I fucking hate you for this” kind of thank you

"People online don't take people with disabilities seriously" Don't you have a twitter?

Maybe a hot take on the topic of the R word. I use it but never towards or around a person with down syndrome. I personally dont see issue with it until you use it to put someone down based on the fact they have down syndrome or a learning disability.

I know I could’ve looked it up first, but I just wanna say I have no idea if this is actually true. When I was in high school, one of my teachers told the class that in the state of California(where I’m from and went to school), if you find out your baby is going to have Down syndrome, California will pay for you to have an abort***. I always thought it was kinda strange the way she talked about it because it felt like an advertisement.

i like the vids but i think they would benefit from having your chat on screen somewhere

18:59 I think she mic stopped working

Is it really that hard for people to treat people with disabilities like people, I’m not an expert and can’t pretend to understand the experience, but if someone has a communication or intellectual disorder, they’re still a ducking person ffs

My issue is unlike the n word which was intentionally used to degrade minorities the r word "retardation" was a medical term now done away with because we assholes bastardized it,while I won't use any offensive slur and most assuredly not towards that specific type of person look it's pretty much too ingrained if my friend screws up I'm gonna take the piss out of him like I do agree words should be done away with(by social standards not corporations) it just feels like speech is being heavily policed and frankly I just like saying ret@$!%& just my opinion it's just a matter of having tough skin and realizing that it's just a word and if someone calls you it they're just a loser.

11:35 bro I just laughed so hard 😂😂

Oh god this is gonna get bad

Awe poor babies I hate everyone else but them

I lowkey thought we still use the r slur b/c it’s crazy to call a person with disabilities the r/slur

Bro is it just me or dose Sean look like Markiplier.

Papa literally just get a damn gallon lmao

I wonder where papa gut is that has an 11 hr time.differece from where i am

If you like this video you get more papa gump vids lmao love ur channel my man

kennedy is bad ngl🤤🤤

TBH, I think the R-word should stay. It rolls off the tongue too well, just like the word fuck. It's the link to mentally handicapped people that should end. The r-word should be used for people who could know better but choose to be ignorant, not for those who can't help it.

In my community you don’t every day the r Word people actually get mad like as much as if you said a different slur

this vid gets me sexually frustrated

L Mom would’ve flooded the bud if it was on twitch

Taking care of yourself and your home is an essential part to being an adult. And it’s good for ur mental health. I’m jus sayin bro!!

Good takes

I don’t agree with the other guy the in video that we should ban the r word. Half of the time it’s not used for people with disabilities so idk what’s the point of banning it. Even other people with disabilities use amongst each other, are we going to jail them for it? I understand he may feel uncomfortable with it, but you can’t legally punish someone for saying the r word.

…yeah no this stream was a massive L. Idk wtf you were on. But MAN, I want some

Papa ur talking about them having a reason to exist and you say u have a bizarre brain. It’s just a functionalist view and its valid.

time to call my friends "respects" when they do something respectable

0:16 Is your wife a mod in Hasanabi chat?

Papa, w peace and love, pick up your water bottles 🤣 your wife will appreciate it more than you can imagine, and you might enjoy the thrill of cleaning your space. I have severe adhd and always work best in a clean space!! Maybe it’ll help you and your work flow ~~

Probably a hot take here, but I feel like saying retard isn’t harmful as long as you aren’t saying it to or around disabled people. I understand that you could strawman this exact argument for other slurs, but the vast majority of people using the word are probably just calling their friends the word.

I think the r slur isn't bad if you say in a way that you mean stupid but if you say it to a person with a mental disability or use it in a way to make fun of those people your a pretty awful person

_Some Person Wrote About How The Mom That Moved The Girl Wasn't In The Wrong Bc "You Aren't Supposed To Lie Or It Defeats The Purpose"...So For Any & All That Share That Same Mentality In Regards To That Mom Bullying Her Child By Publicly Humiliating Her; This Comment Is Also For You:_ Defeats The Purpose? It Defeats The Purpose When Another Person *MOVES* Her. The Title Is *'Do All People With Down Syndrome THINK The Same?'* If She *THINKS* She Can Take Care Of Herself Then *THAT* Is The Point. Here's The Thing; I Guarantee You *MOST* People Would Allow Someone Take Care Of Them If They Were Provided That Opportunity To Have Someone Else Help Them With Majority Of Things & Honestly; I'm Sure If That Parent Were To Take The Time Teaching Her Daughter To Be Self-Sufficient & Worked With Teaching Her To Prepare Her Bath Etc. Then She *COULD* Take Care Of Herself, She Has Just Grown *COMFORTABLE* With Her Mom Doing So. I Don't Believe She Lied.

19:00 I think she mic stopped working