The Most HATED Player For All 32 NHL Teams 

He outed a lot of dirty laundry in the NHL, but some of his post-NHL statements have made me question the accuracy of his statements about the NHL, just by association.

@DneilB007 I don't think I know what you're referring to? What statements?

@@RepublicofODLUMstuff about Vaccines I assume

@@jazefgcm6534 oooh, I did not know about that... sometimes you're better off not knowing too much about the people you used to look up to lol. Either way, he went through a lot in his life, especially as a kid/teen being abused by his coaches and failed by everyone else.

I liked him as a kid.

Underrated comment.

My thoughts exactly. Dirtiest player in the game.

Totally

@Gtizzzzzzzzle Make your own list

Because he'd water down the list lol

Thank you

When "kids these days" butcher guys names, it's so cringe.

Buddy needs to do some research before putting out these videos.

Yeah I was thinking the same. But he's messed up much worse things on some of these videos than names, yet theyre still kind of good lol. I like lists, people like lists, this is proof that if you make average lists about hockey or something cool and youll get views

@@samuelluria4744its really not that deep, just correct and move on, if thats what makes u cringe... idk man i think u just have weird standards

100% agreed. The correct answer would have been Holmstrom

Same thing. If you were a fan of a rival you hated Probie. He did his fare share of dirty shit on the ice as well, as was customary in the era, especially from a tough guy.

As a Red Wings fan in Michigan I can honestly say that after he left, he was extremely hated. Chicago released a news story that he would be 'safer in chicago' as in theyd clean him up and keep him out of trouble better because it was a better city than Detroit. He's the most hated a former Red Wing has ever become hated!

Really? I've never heard that. It's good to hear the perspective from a Wings fan. Thanks. I didn't know. It must be kind of like how Sundin is still worshipped by Leafs fans, even though he low key screwed the team by refusing a deadline trade, pretending he was going to retire, then signing with the Canucks. @@MoneyHoneyBunny

Yes, and I thoroughly enjoyed Tony Twist of the Blues damn near killing him. Twist was the only player that Probert ever backed away from, actually ran away. He knew better.

How about Dale Hunter?

William Nylander did the same thing when he went from # 29 to # 88.

Yeah people felt bad for JJ for a long time cause he was forced off of the team that won 2 cups. But to be fair, LA would not have won without Jeff Carter, Jeff played in 3 finals and won 2, I absolutely understand not wanting to play for a joke of a franchise. He went to the finals, signed a lifetime Philly contract expecting to compete with Giroux by his side for years, and promptly got fucked. Shoulda got a no trade clause. But clearly the hockey gods sided with Jeff cause obviously he was a major piece of their 12' and 14' era puzzle.

I agree with you on so many of these. Tremblay's lasting legacy will be running Patrick Roy out of Montreal,and basically ending any hopes of the Habs return to greatness (I say this as a fellow Habs fan). John Ferguson was a BADASS!

And Dale Hunter....I don't even consider him a hockey player. Dude was a criminal who just happened to play hockey

Dale Hunter and Raffi Torres not being on this list is a major miss. Then again you could probably make a few of these lists

To add onto this list it shows how little research the people making this video did that they put Pronger as the most hated or dirty Flyer. Based on what it seems like their criteria was the Flyer on this list should be Dave “The Hammer” Schultz who got into so many fights and got so many penalties he actually released a song in the 70s about being in the penalty box.

lol stfu gramps. Listen to the kids voice that made this video, he clearly isn't older than 25 so of course there is going to be modern bias

Please make that video for us, so we can be reminded how hockey used to be 200 years ago 😅

I get where you’re coming from, like, how does Roy Worters not make anyone’s best goalies of all time list?

What about Eddie Shore, John Ferguson, Stan Mikita (before he suddenly got nice) or the whole Broadstreet Bullies group (let's leave Bernard Parent and Reggie Leach out of it, for obvious reasons)? I obviously didn't see any of these players play live but sometimes you just need to listen.

I swear I think these compilers think hockey was invented in 2008. Must just be hard to find older footage.

100%

True. I think there is a better example, however. Chris Nilan is remembered as a Hab. He was batshit crazy. Prust was also a true agitator who would pull shit that even Barnaby himself would be proud of. He didn't play for the Habs that many seasons, though. Fits the bill perfectly otherwise.

@@incumbentvinyl9291 - Yes, Chris Nilan was a great Ranger, and one of the toughest fighters of all time.

@@samuelluria4744 Define ''toughest''.

This guy isn't a real hockey fan. I hate it when posers pretend to be knowledgeable about something that they clearly have little interest in. The real fans will always expose posers like this... makes me wonder why they even bother.

Tremendous open ice hitter and really tough to play against. But I never thought he was exceptionally dirty

Id say the vid got a lot right but tough guys and excellent body checkers are much different than dirty players. I suppose they can all be hated. Brian Marchment was the most consistently dirty player Ive ever seen. Honorable mention to Keith Tkachuk, Jeremy Roenick and Ulf Sammuelson

@@neilplace8522 Then you never saw him play

Absolutely - this video is straight garbage from a hockey knowledge perspective.

Subban can skate, shoot and didn't take $hit from anyone, but "hated?" Not the word I would use. He would have been better off saying Donald Brashear even tho I don't really consider him a Habs player, he did play for the team and he was a boxer first, skater second.

"The Finn from Flin Flon", because of how gritty he was as a player

When asked Gretzky is there any wishes left what he could dreamed to happen in his former NHL career, he said: "yes there is, i have always dreamed to shoot decisive goal in Stanley Cup game seven during overtime and making it through Esa Tikkanen's ass on the way in goal... and he is representing opponent team." 😂😂

The man who couldn’t speak English or Finnish. He spoke Tikkanese.

I to this day can not stand Messier "celebrating" with the jumping up and down and smiling from ear to ear. I hated that.

I quit eating Lays chips because of that idiot.

By his team and the club lol!

As a Ranger fan, even I don't like the guy.

Kids nowadays have no idea. Messier was dirty as hell. I think his dirty plays were forgotten due to his winning legacy. He played with many talented players and made a lot of points. His antics stand in the shadows of that glory. When the NHL or sports networks talk about Messier they always talk about him playing with Gretzky, winning the cup, etc. but never talk about how many penalty minutes he got, and they never talk about the dirty hits contrary to Scott Stevens for example. So today's kids who never saw him play live a lie and have an unrealistic portrayal of him. It's like Gordie Howe. Howe was super dirty, but nobody talks about it nowadays.

​@@TheFlamingPikeI'd give him almost as much credit for Edmonton's cups as Grezkey

For anybody that didn’t know. Mark Messier was a total pos in Vancouver. Wayne Maki was a player who in the 60s was involved in one of the most violent on ice incidents in the history of the NHL. He and Ted Green attacked each other with their sticks and beat on each other in the head. In 1972, he was diagnosed with brain cancer and then died in 1974 at the age of 29. He wore jersey 11. The Canucks took #11 and retired it. When Messier signed as a free agent with Vancouver, he demanded number 11 against the Maki family wishes and most of the public. He then ripped the team apart internally. Trevor Linden was captain of the team. He took the captain from him but he created divisions in the locker room. His attitude was so horrible in Vancouver. He basically got both the GM and Coach fired in not even his first full season there. He basically was Lebron before lebron. He wanted GM powers and convinced the owner to get rid of GM Pat Quinn before Quinn got a chance to fire the coach, Tom Renney. Quinn wouldn’t have put up with Messier bullshit as coach. Tom Renney was a rookie coach, fresh out coaching the Kamloops Blazers in the WHL. Messier created divisions inside the locker room. Back when the Canucks visited the Rangers for Messier return game, he had the game winning goal until a late goal allowed by goaltender Kirk McLean ruined that story for him. He complained and yelled at McLean about it. Every single player who was considered heart and soul players in the organization or leaders were traded away. Mike Keenan got hired as coach and gm. He went on a burn it down approach, trading away McLean and Linden. Mark Messier is definitely most hated in Vancouver to this day.

Laus slipped my mind. I was thinking Worrell. I think it should be Laus, he is remembered as a Panther.

Laus or Cousins; Cousins is making a strong push for the crown.

We didn't like him when he played for the North Stars. My father called him "pie face" lol

@@goodwilj The old Chicago Stadium used to vibrate to the chant “DINO SUCKS”.

Marty Lapointe?! Stevie was far nastier with the stick work. Why not Gilbert Delorme 😂

Good choices.

He's been great in Edmonton, though. Seems like he's finally matured.

@@kropking Really?

*hilarious

Did he trash talk in Swiss? Or English?

They're busy making a judgement as the jury in the trial to determine the rightful owner of Homer Simpson's soul.

Thanks. I was half listening doing other stuff and remember thinking that sounded weird.

I'm pretty sure EVERYONE in the Stars organization hated Sean Avery.

Sean Avery was a MF. Hate that guy

Sean Avery is on this list

Domi did it twice too!! Toronto Sun made a comic strip of it. 1st square. Tie with fist raised and crazy grin 2nd. Ulf lipping off 3rd. Tie’s fist meets Ulf’s face.

He single handedly shortened Cam Neelys career which means he’s certainly Don Cherrys most hated player. 😂

I think the thing that pops into my head as soon as I think of Stevens is the kariya hit to the head in the playoffs

Our pretty much ending Lindros' career... he was never the same after that hit

Exactly!! Stevens tried to end guy's careers. It was ugly. I'll hate him for that forever. Such cheap hits that so many bozos thought were wonderful. Anyone can finish off a guy after the puck is gone and you blindside him with a hit to the head (worst was Paul Kariya). Knocked him out...he came back and scored the game winning goal. BUT, Kariya doesn't remember it.

French is hard

@@nathanbrisebois8756 May wee, zut alore. Je suis le pamplemousse avec le salle de bain.

@@DorianPhQ bien oui mon ami, je m'appelle le grande fromage

@@DorianPhQ tabernac sans sacrement modes broche e fuie Sainte muffette le fucking froot loop

Just a person who isn’t a fan of hockey.

And it’s pronounced Steve Du-Shane

THANK YOU

And Dominik Hašek is pronounced Dominik Hashek, not "Dominik Khasek"

Tie DOMM-ey.

Just another case of a wanna-be attempting to make money off RU-vid. These are the kinds of things that expose that a person isn't a real fan of the content they make.

Absolutely! Marchand doesn't deserve it. Gross little rat.

Exactly!!

And this is the real reason why a lot of fans hate the Penguins. It isn't jealousy over their success,but rather using the same players their organization and fans say are dirty players. Do they stop being dirty when they put on the black and gold?

yes, both good and memorable candidates.

Wow I never made that connection but it’s true. I just hate them because thats what we do in Detroit. 😂

Agree. Dude was a disgrace to the game as is anyone who would lick their opponents face.

Yup its absolutely disgusting what Graham James did to him. Poor guy. I would be a drunk too. Hope Fleury has found peace since.

@@classic.cameras he hasnt...

if that is true, sorry to hear@@bruinschiefs1

Yup! So many other players in Flames history,none of which have the backstory Fleury has,and he chooses Fleury

Sandy Mccarthy comes to mind.

Yeah there a distinction between someone in the list that are/were hated as hockey players those that were hated as human beings (even often dirty players are liked off ice; y'know what I mean).

I remember that, my dad told me about it basically saying “Kane would go to restaurants, order tons worth of service and tried to avoid paying, some employees would also take him to the back alley & beat him up to make him pay” pretty scummy to me 😭

Did he ever pull the race card as why he’s hated/treated bad or did he keep it real?

@@tomharper8351 Once, but only in passing by a village idiot on the internet in a random comment. Not by the "paid millions for his talent even though he's a D-bag as a person".

Did he ever pay back the casinos after his losses. Heard he owed one a half a million dollars. The guy is still a POS.

So was cheap shot Mark Messier. Edmonton fans just loved them

@@Marcel-fo2cb when the Oilers won their first Cup he deservedly won the Conn Smythe But the next year he went goon-ish, and it was disappointing And I am not an Oilers’ fan

Exactly! Dale Hunter was a straight-up criminal. At least,with Chris Simon,it was alcohol abuse,and him trying to stay in the League. Hunter had no such issues

Absolutely, it's Hunter. No contest. It's not about players that were loved on their own team though. Marchand is loved in Boston too. You're missing the point.

Ooohh thank you. I forgot about Tikkanen! Yes he was utterly hated. And rightly so.

Was surprised with the PK choice,

Habs fan here. I'd have mentioned Claude Lemieux,easily. I guess the OP only didn't use him because he already used him as Colorado's most hated player

Chris Nilan was mainly a Ranger, not a Hab. Also, he was not really "hated", except by those who tasted his knuckles.

@samuelluria4744 My friend; I have from Google right in front of my eyes Chris Nilan's career years as I'm writing this. With the Canadiens his first season was 1979-80 . Granted, it was only 15 games with the Habs. However he would play until 1987-88 for the Canadiens. During that time he NEVER had a season where he was below 200 p.i.m. Even during the season he was traded to the Rangers, 50 games into said 1987-88 season, he still managed to be penalized over 200 minutes during the part he played for Montreal those 50 games.

@@charlestessier7843 - My friend; I was being tongue-in-cheek. 😉

Haha

I definitely remember him as a Blue, he was kind of an embarrassment but I don't remember anyone really hating him. I think he got dumped on Pittsburgh and nobody noticed. Might have been one of the numerous trades to bring back Perron.

I remember him as a Canuck for a couple seasons. He was a tight bastard, but I liked him on my side lol

Exactly! He's only become what he's become because he was a Bruins,and there was always gonna be someone else fighting his battles for him. Put him on a finesse team,and he doesn't last 10 years

Agree! Is there a category that’s stronger than most hated? And the fact that they made him captain tells you everything about thr bruins.

Dino!!!

yes

Scott Stevens was a elbowing machine. Besides that he was soild defender tho

No dirtier than messier. I preferred the 80s and 90s nhl.

It’s not even like people view him in hindsight as dirty. When he effectively ended the careers of Lindros and Karina in the immediate aftermath fans were calling him out. I still remember being a kid in 2003 and my dad and all his buddies talking about the end of Lindros in philly and you could tell they were still pissed about that hit.

Oh, yes. Totally good and hockey-related reasons. Nothing fishy here.

"Personally I don't think he was a dirty player" dude was one of the biggest headhunters in the league

The love affair won't last long with that goof. Even the Edmonton fans will get disgusted and repulsed by him.

He's always been a "me" guy.

This guy isn't a real hockey fan.

Do they tell you in that movie where the quote is from?

I hated him because he was too damn good. ,lol

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Vlady moreso than Kronner. Shanahan once said "I used to think that Vlady was borderline dirty, but now that I'm playing with him, I know that he's borderline dirty." With Avery, Hull said that the veterans liked him, but they also kept him in his place. He once walked into the locker room and said "The Big Dog is here." Someone (maybe Stevie Y) retorted "You're not a big dog, you're just a puppy." Hull signed him to Dallas, likely thinking that he could keep Avery on the straight and narrow, which didn't happen, of course.

He probably didn’t have a VCR. 😂

Ott was a super intense player. The prototype of the player everybody wants to play for their team, but never wants him to play against. He had an infinite amount of grit. He was fast, hit hard and never backed down from fights. I never saw a shift from that guy where he didn't put his entire energy into it. IMO while he did snap once in a while, I never considered him dirty, just a top tier enforcer in the good definition of the word! The vast majority of his hits were clean and textbook in their finish. He had great timing for hip checks, a lost art. I really liked that player.

@@TheFlamingPike Good take. I do disagree that he was an enforcer. He was an agitator, much like Tucker, Avery, J. Ruutu and Prust. Enforcers tend to be the heavyweights that use intimidation as a key factor, and rarely chip in with meaningful offense or otherwise positive play in any of the three zones.

lol no

@@ericksheldon3870 you clearly haven't watched the documentary involving Chris Draper and Claude Lemieux, have you

*Konstantinov *Kris Draper

Actually, 2 games prior to the Claude/Draper hit Kozlov pushed Footes face into the glass causing 7 or so stitches. There was no penalty call. Later in that game, Claude tried to fight Kozlov but he wouldn't, so Claude sucker punched him. That game was the small spark that started the animosity between the 2 teams.

@@caddrafter48 that's what I meant, thank you for correcting me.

Avery was a sack of shit. Let's not kid ourselves. I live in New York,and know enough Ranger fans who hated him,so you can imagine the rest of the league