The Most Horrifying Science Fiction Series of All | The Three-Body Problem Series

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Recently I had the pleasure of reading what is likely the most terrifying science fiction book series I’ve ever read. I’ve always enjoyed scary stories. As a kid, I read anthologies like goosebumps or Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. But I didn’t know true fear until I encountered the works of Stephen King, and H.P. Lovecraft in my teenage years. Lovecraft’s works opened up such terrifying vistas of thought that I would while reading them become transfixed and filled with ultimate existential dread. The cosmic terrors he wrote about in his stories struck me as somehow more real than the monsters and ghosts of goosebumps and that is probably because in truth Lovecraft, being the flawed man he was, was expressing a very simple fear, fear of the unknown. And what is more unknown than the blackness of space. I must admit that not since my early teenage years have I felt such poignant terror while reading as I did when first encountering the work of Lovecraft. That Is until I read the Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy.
There are three books in this series, The Three-Body Problem, The Dark Forest, and Deaths End, there is also an additional book not written by Cixin Liu himself, called Redemption of Time. The first books in the series The Three-Body Problems start off as a mystery. As the story unfolds it starts to feel as though we are reading the unfolding of some grand conspiracy, a conspiracy written into the fabric of the universe itself. Early on in the story, you find out that scientists around the world have been killing themselves. A note left behind by one of the late scientists, Yang Dong ominously added to the mysteries, saying only:
All the evidence points to a single conclusion: Physics has never existed, and will never exist. I know what I’m doing is irresponsible. But I have no choice.
We base so much of our own perception of what we consider to be a reality on what we can observe. We look upon the universe as it is and extrapolate from that point. But what if we will never be able to know the truth about the universe. What if the universal constants are not constant. What if the laws of physics are not laws, what if reality isn’t real. Before we get any further into the video I have to give a spoiler warning. If you have not read the series I highly recommend you stop this video and do so. If you’ve read the series, or just don’t care about spoilers then continue forth. Now we won’t be getting into all of the details of the series, I’ll be giving context to why exactly I think this series is so unnerving.
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@QuinnsIdeas 2 года назад

The Cover Art to this video is by Marc Simonetti. The wrong attribution is given in the video, my apologies.

@gabrielpinatecaballero1666 2 года назад

Hello just wondering what does the "ETO" stand for 7:00

@QuinnsIdeas 2 года назад

@@gabrielpinatecaballero1666 Earth Trisolaris Organization, the group of people who side with the Trisolaran invaders against humanity.

@UtopiaPlanitiaStudios 2 года назад

It’s a really cool image and one of the best visualisations I’ve seen of this concept, but only the humans seem to be in the 4th dimension, while the ship is simply fisheye lensed. In the book they can see right out into space with the ship subject to the same ‘distortion’ as the crew. Great review by the way, the trilogy had a similar effect on me when I read it. I’d never encountered anything quite like its mix of epic scale, unbounded imagination and terrifying zero-sum logic in such a gripping narrative. The problematic science (eg. sophons) is made up for in sheer ingenuity and all-too-believable politics. I was thinking telepathy was going to be the solution to the Wallfacer problem but then whoa, Cixin goes 4D.

@gabrielpinatecaballero1666 2 года назад

@@QuinnsIdeas cheers!

@BenEvertz 2 года назад

Aren’t the show runners of Game of Thrones doing a show based on the three body problem😮‍💨😮‍💨

@Renegade4Life 2 года назад

reminds me of a short story i've read that went: after decades of sending messages out there we finally got one back. It said "Quiet. They are listening"

@mal2ksc 2 года назад

A rogue Trisolaran actually did that. The person who had sent the initial signal _wanted_ them to come, and disregarded the warning.

@gamernotvalid9452 2 года назад

Do you remember it? It sounds like some Lovecraft type ending and that shit gave me immediate chills.

@allerasthesphinx7184 2 года назад

@@gamernotvalid9452 I think thats the whole story. A so called "Tiny Tale". Designed to provoke your own spine chilling interpretation

@spacewolf182 2 года назад

Similar to "The last man on earth sits alone in his room and hears a knock on the door." Chilling but simple.

@idontknowyet2875 2 года назад

I remember a creepypasta pretty similar to the one you described

@nsaik 2 года назад

My favourite part of this series is the notion that after all the collective effort of human research and technological advancement, that the most enduring way to capture information is carving it in stone.

@alanpennie8013 2 года назад

History (or rather archeology) would tend to endorse this.

@PhileasLiebmann 2 года назад

It's a close second only to ceramic tiles

@mrspeigel3593 2 года назад

@@PhileasLiebmann gotta bake the tablets 😁

@jabbrewoki 2 года назад

@@PhileasLiebmann Technically, ceramic tiles are just man made stone, although purer, so therefore less chemicals that breakdown and erode.

@o-wolf 2 года назад

Ceramic tiles would be better but yeh lol

@rotkev Год назад

I introduced one of my best friends to the series. He’s currently reading The Dark Forest - not even halfway through - and he called me and I listened to his existential crisis for 30 mins. I told him, not to worry, you’ll soon forget about your crisis because it will be replaced by pure terror. 😬

@caiogobbi3688 Год назад

When I have finished the third book I was just swallowed by the depression. It was hard for me imagine a cruel universe that we can be destroyed by other civilization. The only chance for us is to enjoy our lives and make good friends.

@Esfeurell Год назад

I remember that it’s about halfway through the second book that shit really hits the fan for humanity and the story becomes entirely unpredictable. Things just go nuts! After I finished the series, I spent about 2 weeks in a hazy fog of thought, not sure what to do with myself because how could I go back to my normal daily routine after being confronted with such ideas??? 10/10

@omeratl5623 Год назад

I had these earthly concerns for a while but then i remembered i'm a turkish sigma male and went on with my life.great series tbh

@SuicidelG Год назад

Wow, I felt this so much

@dreamingghost306 Год назад

You’re a very good friend

@enzoliu391 Год назад

When it comes to aliens or something like that, we always consider ourselves somehow prepared for the first contact and ought to seek for it. Liu Cixin reminds us of the simple fact: we are not, not even close.

@johndawson6057 10 месяцев назад

This, this right here.

@nemoteric 5 месяцев назад

The portrayal in popular culture of the military being able to defend against whatever technology they have is always so amusing. The best course of action seems to be assuming they are peaceful and hope for the best. If they are here to wipe us out, we're screwed no matter what. But I don't see how a civilization could advance far enough, technologically, to be able to travel across space and time yet still be a militant civilization hellbent on domination and destruction. Edit: just finished the first book. I was wrong. I was so, so wrong. 😅

@TudorSicaru 5 месяцев назад

@@nemoteric the simple statement that "if they are here" means they posses vastly more advanced technology that enabled them to be here, lol. We'd definitely not be ready for something like that. Or to put it differently...If you don't know where the sucker is at the poker table, it's you!

@nemoteric 5 месяцев назад

Aren't we saying the same thing lol? @@TudorSicaru

@cinder-nu3pk 4 месяца назад

⁠⁠⁠⁠@@nemotericWell, you want to wipe out intelligence before it eventually wipes you out. **Spoilers** I’m not well read here but I remember how some douche nicknamed “Singer” threw a mass dot at the Trisolarians and a dual vector foil at our solar system for this reason lol. It was his job was to hunt for intelligent civilizations and destroy them before they became stronger.

@astralcai 2 года назад

One of my favourite quotes from the series: Weakness and ignorance are not barriers to survival, but arrogance is

@timlamb9035 2 года назад

That's more than a quote, actually is the theme of most sci-fi books the author wrote. If you interested, have a search on other books he wrote, don't think they will disappoint you.

@Drayonis 2 года назад

Covid deniers proves that point

@callithasmed8468 2 года назад

@@Drayonis *cough* 0.03 death rate* *cough*

@Drayonis 2 года назад

@@callithasmed8468 you're exactly who I was referring to

@callithasmed8468 2 года назад

@@Drayonis How am I arrogant?

@tohafi 2 года назад

When the "universe blinked" in the first book, i was intrigued. When the Dark Forest theory was explained in the second book, i hid under my bed. When they started to use cosmological constants as weapons in the third book, i lost my mind. These books are intense!

@minorityreport4729 2 года назад

These books are amazing

@v.hamilton5679 2 года назад

Maybe you should be less of a nerd and get a job ?

@tohafi 2 года назад

@@v.hamilton5679 Yes, we should all just work 24/7 and don't try to find any joy or hobbies of any kind. Be a good productive drone. CAPITALISM, HO!

@KotyandMax9000 2 года назад

@@v.hamilton5679 this guy thinks people who have jobs can't read. Can you read, buddy?

@asahmosskmf4639 2 года назад

V. Hamilton talking to their doctor = " So i was shitting on this nerd after i clicked on a nerdy video - hey where u going ? "

@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60 8 месяцев назад

I'd like to note that Trisolaris was the first to make contact. A group of people sympathetic to other civilizations essentially asked Earth to stay quiet so that the rest of Trisolaris wouldn't find them. Yi Wenjie then sent a message back essentially saying "come get me bro" notifying the rest of Trisolaris, and the rest is history.

@pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965 Месяц назад

"SHUT UP" "Nah, I'd submit" "Man fuck yo species you weird as hell"

@nyxnes Месяц назад

Im so curious who the pacifist who sent the "do not answer" message is

@shainaelise2694 Месяц назад

Its covered in one of the last few chapters in the 1st book in the series. We get to see that moment from the pacifists perspective and its really interesting. @@nyxnes

@haydoom5350 6 дней назад

@@shainaelise2694 he also shows up in the second

@ar0010 Год назад

Just finished the first book. To those worried about spoilers in this video, rest assured: these books are so good that learning more about what's going on in the story's universe ahead of time only increases the enjoyment of reading them.

@pixpusha 9 месяцев назад

I can't seem to get thru the first book. It's sooo dry.

@giangnhu9905 8 месяцев назад

@@pixpusha man, I just finished the first one and I can't stop reading the second ALL THE TIME. Results come to those who are patient, keep reading and you won't be disappointed :) (sorry if my english is not good)

@HoxFeesh 8 месяцев назад

@pixpusha I felt the same way. Get a free 30-day trial of Audible and use one of the two free credits to listen to it. It's a slow burn and is foundational. Pay attention. He ties it into 2. I just finished it. 2 is absolutely amazing, especially the showdown. Made me think of an old western (The Good, the Bad, & The Ugly ending). About to start book 3. Best of luck.

@CodeMeat 7 месяцев назад

@@HoxFeesh Warning! The book3 will eat your brain cells like breakfast... need lots of time to dive in and re-read to understand it, especially those 3 fairy tales. And in the Ending is just a God of all dead. I don't know how I can express the feeling after reading the 3rd book, exhausted, despaired, relieved? Kind of strange like this is a sci-fi book, but somehow it talks me into believing I know how our universe or our ex-universe has an ending like this...a very dangerous Sci-Fi series haha

@HoxFeesh 7 месяцев назад

@@CodeMeat I already burned through it, haha! I told a buddy who's finished all 4 that I was emotionally wrecked after several spots in 3. I had to remind myself that it was just a book, lol.

@electricattika 2 года назад

The Dark Forest fucked me up so badly that it took me three days to get through the first contact battle with the teardrop. It’s such an emotionally draining story to get through, but so good that it’s completely worth it.

@JohnVance 2 года назад

Dude me too, I feel like I've found my people in these comments.

@Faint366 2 года назад

Oh ok. So does this series actually have personal horror and tragedy stuff? The feeling I got from this video was just “huh ok so that sounds like a typical cosmic horror backdrop for a story. What’s the actual story about?” Like, is it just about how humanity destroys themselves while waiting for the aliens or is there actual horror from humans being hunted and whatnot?

@mkd2839 2 года назад

@@Faint366 This is grand scale, existential horror. There are more details that make it more scary too on a personal level, like how the aliens can observe each and everyone's thoughts and even control them. Personally this is far more scary than your cheap typical horror tropes like "humans being hunted"

@64Fairlane 2 года назад

Tried series on audiobook format. Found it so difficult to follow had to switch to text based. Then loved it. So much fun to find others who have experienced this story.

@HighLordBlazeReborn 2 года назад

All that hubris of the grid gone in minutes.

@evensgrey 2 года назад

My favorite thing about Lovecraft's works is he wasn't afraid to make his aliens ALIEN. He had aliens made of exotic matter. He had aliens that could only be perceived as a color. One of his less alien aliens are equal parts fungus and shrimp.

@hackedtechnothief 2 года назад

this is what i always say to people when they *ONLY* bring up aliens and describe them as *green with giant heads and black oval eyes*

@evensgrey 2 года назад

@@hackedtechnothief The only thing better than somebody willing to have really alien aliens is someone willing to do all the work to figure out how their alien works as a life form, in it's natural environment. Amazingly, there are even people in Hollywood (albeit very rare ones) who understand this. (Larry Niven included an anecdote in one of his essays about being contacted by a producer who had just come on to the old V series and brought in Niven because this producer realized that while they had lots of makeup effects and the like, they didn't have a work-out alien life form. Niven gave them a quite well worked out idea and a story arc arising from it, in which the Visitors end up being laughing stocks for a while, and never get called back. This was as likely because the series was already going to be cancelled at that point as anything else. Given that the Visitors were a rework of a Neonazi movement in the original treatment, which actually made them nastier, this is a show that could have done with some comic relief that was better than Willy.)

@squirlmy 2 года назад

No, because he didn't write about them as "outer space" aliens. He generally talked about his monsters as being from other dimensions, and other eras of time. You are thinking about this completely wrong. He had no idea there were other planets around other stars. I mean, he totally misunderstood what "non-Euclidean geometry" was, much less the latest astrological discoveries. The "Colour form Outer Space" isn't an alien. It is more like a disease or radiation. Impressive because he barely understood X-rays and ultraviolet light, but that was clearly what he had in mind rather than "outer space alien".

@evensgrey 2 года назад

@@squirlmy Some were definitely 'outer space aliens.' The Yithians were specifically from the long-dead planet Yith, and didn't use spacecraft as they would simply mind-exchange with intelligent beings on the planet in the era that wanted to explore. The Mi-Go (who definitely had a large base on Pluto, if it was not their homeworld) and Byakee could travel interstellar space and take people with them (with the Mi-Go able to furnish life support equipment for their willing or unwilling passengers, but as byakhee are animals their passengers have to supply their own protection and figure out some means of guiding them to a desired destination, lest they be lost forever.)

@humanity600 2 года назад

Most of Lovecrafts "aliens" are actually just extradimensional spiritual lifeforms. Alot of his work draws upon the theme of religion as opposed to aliens, though he has a few in there.

@fulerage9514 Год назад

Just finished reading the main Trilogy... I have to say thank you for exposing me to such a thoughtful story. The books really helped expand my views on civilization, society, the actions of individuals, responsibility and our place in the universe. Even though the story might get sad and dark sometimes, by the end of the third book, my outlook on life was somehow more positive

@IXSICNESS 10 месяцев назад

It really is impressive how deaths end manages to be completely nihilistic yet somehow hopeful

@firstNamelastName-ho6lv 4 месяца назад

Don't read the fourth one if you value creative thinking

@aehello3444 4 месяца назад

@@firstNamelastName-ho6lv that's technically a fanfiction not the fourth book

@firstNamelastName-ho6lv 4 месяца назад

@@aehello3444 Yeah unfortunately Cixin Liu put his stamp of approval on it and published it. Should have stayed a fanfic.

@Acuriouscase77 3 месяца назад

That's how I felt after reading the first book.

@xtryptaminex2148 Год назад

This trilogy was absolutely incredible. It legitimately changed the way I look at the universe and terrified me in a way I didn’t think possible. Hands down the best sci-fi I’ve experienced

@buttknuckles8590 11 месяцев назад

There is a fourth book, it isn't written by the original author but he read it and liked it

@cellador_tk2105 2 месяца назад

@@buttknuckles8590what's the title?

@fartquaviasdingle7876 Месяц назад

@@cellador_tk2105it gets brought up almost immediately in this video

@renard6012 2 года назад

The "Dark forest" theory reminds of another Sci-fi story I read long ago: The killing star, by Charles Pellegrino. In it, humanity discovers light-speed travel, and is attacked without provocation and brought to near-extinction by an unknown alien species, using light-speed missiles impossible to track, impossible to intercept or dodge, and devastatingly powerful. The motivation of the alien invaders was simple: Protection. It was a pre-emptive strike against humanity, because a species with light-speed travel is far too dangerous to keep as a neighbor.

@kurtrein6019 2 года назад

Sounds like a good one, I’ll have to track it down. Thanks for the recommendation.

@lordmalecith2300 2 года назад

The light-speed missiles you mention are called Relativistic Kinetic Kill Vehicles (RKKVs), but are also called Relativistic Kill Vehicles (RKVs) or Relativistic Bombs (RBs), and are hypothesized to be one of several Interstellar Weapons (Weapons designed to function at interstellar distances). Incredibly precise, capable of destroying whole worlds from light years away with just a few of them, the kinetic energy is so immense that just one the size of a person moving at just under the speed of light could cause the near-destruction of the entirety of a planet's surface, reducing most (if not all) of the crust to molten rock, killing at least 99.99% of all life and 100% of all complex life.

@memberofthehardright 2 года назад

Read Killing Star as well loved that book!

@valecamus4329 2 года назад

Sad in the sense that the premise is so closed, simple, boring and based on humanity. Like I'm not talking about the book itself, but the way you out it, The Killing Star book, makes it sound very dry and not very creative as it assumes a civilisation that is able to create such a technologically advanced weapon, did not have the intelligence or creativity to do it a different way and more safer way. I believe this was also done in order to make humanity seem like the good guys and the aliens as bad and stupid. But I don't really care in the end of the day, its his work and not mine. The logic is very narrow and conceited. It may be that you did not explain all the nuances of the situation, so I won't base the book's quality on your summary; but I won't lie, a well-written book with a pseudo-intelligent and creative plot is very hard not to read. Anyway, just my opinion on the matter. If you had read this far, I would recommend reading Throne of Magical Arcana, or Lord of the Mysteries, they're like 9-10/10 in my book and in my opinion much more interesting and thought-provoking than The Killing Star simply based on your summary of it.

@memberofthehardright 2 года назад

@@valecamus4329 To each his own...

@no2party 2 года назад

Quinn, there's another implication that can be drawn from this series: Dimension Strikes destroy dimensions, therefore it's only a matter of time before life destroys all dimensions. Total collapse of the universe might imply another Big Bang and the recreation of life which would ultimately destroy that universe and the cycle would continue ad infinitum.

@kaiserkarlvankaiserwetter9061 2 года назад

cyclical nice

@satyr1349 2 года назад

Exactly my thoughts from the end where a message from an unkown source comes to those who remain hiding (if I'm remembering correctly).

@AndrewHarter579 2 года назад

That’s exactly the final story in deaths end

@OlYables 2 года назад

It’s like Darwinism taken to its logical extreme.

@johndurrett3573 2 года назад

I read a sci fi book where there were artifacts that survived these big bang cycles and advanced civilizations in each cycle would seak them out and bid for them on black markets. Now I have to find that book and read it again. :)

@SethLunchquest 8 месяцев назад

I started reading the first book not knowing it was about aliens. It was a wild trip when the reveal happened.

@TherealTenmanI 3 месяца назад

I just finished the first book. Every reveal is a slow on/off switch. Brilliant.

@netwicks1126 2 месяца назад

Same

@MSUParker 2 месяца назад

thanks for the spoiler

@ThaDoggo Месяц назад

@@MSUParkerare you stupid?

@handlsarelame Месяц назад

Damn wish I didn't read the comments lol

@thebunsenburner Год назад

Your video essays on this series are the best essays of their kind on the platform. They fill me with dread, hope, and curiosity. I've shared them with many people, and I'm currently watching it with my dad while visiting him for the day. He's loving it.

@johnyricco1220 2 года назад

I think this book is a metaphor for China’s modern history. Two hundred years ago it was the richest empire on Earth. Western powers came, their technology was too advanced to counter. Their weapons and political system evolved from a thousand years of intercivilizational and international warfare. China was defeated, occupied, dismembered, and it took over a century of civil wars and clumsy attempts to modernize to be competitive again. But in that process the civilization changed beyond recognition. So while it survived and succeeded, it was a traumatic and horrifying experience that continues to this day. On the other hand for Westerners the Age of Discovery led to the New World, and eventual colonization and domination of distant civilizations. This is why Western Sci-fi is exemplified by the optimism of Star Trek. The universe is full of opportunity and no danger is unconquerable.

@willemvandeursen3105 2 года назад

@ Johny Ricco, "no danger is unconquerable." That's a little bit haughty. Assuming that of rational thinking species we are superior. We don't know how advanced Others are (if there are Others) and how higher leveled intelligence works. I think WE are in nature still too animalistic, we had wars in the prehistory and practice them still. In '2001', Arthur C Clark pictured aliens as technically very advanced, and benign, they seem to have outgrown aggression and egoism, they seem to have understood that it's better to build than destroy. But I think intelligence and a violent nature are inseparably paired. Are the most intelligent aliens the most evil ones? I doubt if we'll ever know....

@michaelemmott45 2 года назад

Watch this space

@squirlmy 2 года назад

@@willemvandeursen3105 Of course, all of Star Trek has this "haughty" attitude, the OP is not wrong in pointing that out. You sound like you're responding to his personal belief instead of a description of a show. On a different note, if you have HBOMax, you should check out "Raised by Wolves". I'm guessing that later in the series, it will turn out to be that humanity very nearly destroys itself over and over, with just enough survivors to rebuild after repeated armegeddons. It's not "haughty", somewhat pessimistic, but cynically hopeful. The writer is Polish-American Catholic, and I see a lot of Polish culture, which has been victim to repeated invasions of Germans and Russians, conflicts between religious zealots, and atheist Communists, and even Genghis Khan's "Golden Horde".

@willemvandeursen3105 2 года назад

@@squirlmy Raise by wolves looks great to me, I'll check it out. Our “haughtiness” also stems from our solitary existence, of course. We have no references of other intelligent species. In a way, the centralist idea of pre-Copernicus years that we are the center of the universe with everything orbiting around us, added to our feel of “uniqueness and importance”. Till this day there are people believing that we are the only intelligent creatures in the universe. I call that haughtiness too.

@nightlogic1 2 года назад

@@willemvandeursen3105 "Technology implies belligerence" (Peter Watts). I can never get that quote out of my head when discussing these matters.

@Boundlessness 2 года назад

Honestly, reading the star getting destroyed then realizing it was by a far worse civilization than the Trisolarans was terrifying

@Candyapplebone 2 года назад

Yeah that random 3rd civilization was brutal

@tairyhesticles4975 2 года назад

@@Candyapplebone the chapter in the 3rd book from their perspective is so weird

@svenlauke1190 Год назад

missing the point a bit. there are no "worse or better" civilizations out there. its just, survival. morals mean nothing in the cosmos, and humans have yet to understand that. the humans that survive (spoiler) earths destruction are unable to enjoy life out of constant fear of annihilation. thats the sad nature of the universe (in this trilogy).

@svenlauke1190 Год назад

@@tairyhesticles4975 the "singer" chapter isn't even the civilization that destroyed the unknown star or trisolaren system. and some hint at the fact that the solar system isn't even destroyed by them (allthough that is often handled as a writer error) since the timelines don't match

@lonniemcclure4538 Год назад

I found Wallfacer Luo Ji's plan to be both ingenious and terrifying. It was essentially the threat of mutual assured destruction, but with Earth using a proxy.

@pazidawson2178 Год назад

The way you talk and present the video is so good! How you first went into the book was SO good and enticing. Also, the way you were expressive was great, and the questions you posed as well! Great video!!!!!

@toxicsquirrelboy 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for introducing me to this series. I finished it 2 weeks ago, went through the existential crisis and am finally ready to watch the rest of your videos about it. I have never seen such a compelling argument for the dark forest hypothesis and I am now a firm believer that we should stop broadcasting our existence into space. It was awesome, thank you.

@Kenshiro3rd 2 года назад

Read this series this past year. It really is terrifying! The whole idea that the universe is a “Dark Forest” where that even announcing our existence to it is a death sentence… THAT is some true cosmic horror. Honestly, it scares the shit out of me.

@thesurvivalist. 2 года назад

Have you read The Long Winter trilogy?

@Kenshiro3rd 2 года назад

@@thesurvivalist. no. I have not. Will look it up now. Thanks for putting it on my radar. I’m currently finishing up Dean Koontz’s Frankenstein series, The Dark Tower series, and waiting on the last novel of The Expanse series.

@thesurvivalist. 2 года назад

@@Kenshiro3rd I read a Few of those, never read any Frankenstein books before! I read the Dark Tower series months ago.

@Kenshiro3rd 2 года назад

@@thesurvivalist. start with Mary Shelly’s original Frankenstein. It may be the first true Sci-Fi story ever made, but it STILL holds up as one of the best. It’s that good.

@thesurvivalist. 2 года назад

@@Kenshiro3rd Will do! The Long Winter has A.I. in it and it bothers me, I remember when the TV series Westworld came out, I was nervous the whole series.

@SimmonsProductions27 Год назад

I stopped watching the video after the spoiler warning, and finally, after 7 months of listening to the books on Audible, I can finally listen to the entire video. Such an incredible series.

@trevor4175 Год назад

this is crazy I've just experienced exactly this! finished deaths end today! I look at the universe differently now

@TaCo0oCaT Год назад

Great minds think alike!

@eldenfindley186 Год назад

I tried reading it and couldn’t get through chapter 1. The cultural revolution stuff is so cringe.

@trevor4175 Год назад

@@eldenfindley186 you are missing out on one of the most thought provoking series you will ever find. the revolution is important in that that the first book is a product of China and set in China, past the first chapters its not very relevant though I recommend pushing through it! atleast get to the second book!

@Kindlesmith70 Год назад

@@eldenfindley186 Just skip this chapter. I don't think it adds much beside providing a backdrop to current state of affairs. You have a rebel group, which includes many intellectuals, that is cool with all trains of thought, and then you have a group that is against particular free thinking which is mainstream. That is about all I got from it. It gets better. I didn't enjoy it either.

@cjsdizzy Год назад

It's crazy that I've never heard of this series. This looks like words can't describe how cool it is. I will 100% be reading these

@scootybooty9626 9 месяцев назад

Words literally describe how cool it is

@baronroaster404 Месяц назад

@@scootybooty9626this guy reads

@davestier6247 Год назад

Just stumbled on your content via a RU-vid rabbit hole excursion and wow am I glad I did. Your concise writing and calm, even soothing delivery have really got me stoked to read this series. Will def check out your other content, and keep up the great work!

@VayaKahvi 2 года назад

So, because of you I've decided to look up this series and the Hyperion Cantos at my local library, I specifically went to their digital section as I have a phone app for that, and the first book for both series have a waiting list of 7-9 people, for each copy they have available. If this interest is your fault that means you've managed to affect my small city.

@yoerijonker846 2 года назад

It spreads. It echoes...

@PoptartParasol 2 года назад

Try renting it out either in open library or on the internet archive. They both have a online renting feature, hopefully you find the books there though. GL!

@karolean8342 2 года назад

I don't get it, why don't you simply buy a digital version on the internet? Why do libraries have digital sections?

@VayaKahvi 2 года назад

@@karolean8342 Well almost everyone has a smart phone these days so a digital section would still be accessible by the majority potential patrons, though publishers insist on an artificial scarcity for digital books so people still have to take turns to read something that theoretically could be copied infinitely. Also I have a limited budget so libraries are a great way for me to grab some entertainment.

@tammylin8377 2 года назад

Ya i was on hold for over two months. Gave up and bought the book instead yesterday.

@DarkLadyAthena1 2 года назад

I started reading Lovecraft because I was sad. I was warned that this would make me sadder but instead, it made me momentarily forget my own issues. The fear of the unknown and that everything one believes is a lie or is twisted upon its head to reveal something so unfathomable and horrifying was wondrous and interesting concept for me at a young age of nine. I haven't read this trilogy but now I want to. I have been looking for a good science fiction horror series for this Halloween season. Thanks for the recommendation Quinn. Keep up the good cosmic horror content.

@Rick_Cleland 2 года назад

👀

@Unpainted_Huffhines 2 года назад

You have to actively look for his opinions on race. If you just read without an agenda, his writing is brilliant, ahead of his time.

@Unpainted_Huffhines 2 года назад

@Meridias Watchtower Obvious to those hunting for them. And, no more than any other works of fiction set during turn of the last century America.

@kidoliva 2 года назад

The Three Body Problem trilogy is not horror but hard science fiction. If you are looking for sci-fi cosmic horror, this isn't it. It is however an excellent trilogy.

@jacquelinedavis9948 2 года назад

@Meridias Watchtower So? It's stories written around a hundred years ago. What were you expecting? For him to hold the same values we do today?

@edoshea7847 11 месяцев назад

I would like to say thank you Quinn for introducing me to this magnificent series. I’ve just finished it, LOVED it and am about to dive into the rest of your videos on them 😍

@torturedparadox 7 месяцев назад

I finally acquired and finished this series. I had slapped your video on 'watch later' over a year ago. It was well worth the wait :)

@davidbutterworth1126 2 года назад

I’m so happy you read this, I’ve been trying to sell this series off to friends for years. Another culture’s take on the genre is interesting enough, but the depth of the story and horrific reality is immense

@hotrodhunk7389 2 года назад

The translations of foreign speakers is never as good as native speakers in my opinion. I've tried and it just never clicks with me.

@maxbazhenov3405 2 года назад

I do the same thing in Moscow) This series is in some way very similar to Artur Clark's Space Odyssey. Big projects, big periods of time described, lots of people involved in the story, lots of technical details and authors opinion and very big - cosmologicaly big - questions. Must say that the text itself is even more poetic than the Space Odyssey series. This guy is a very wise person, indeed.

@esecallum 2 года назад

It's by a Chinese guy so it's hard to relate to Chinese

@Low_commotion 2 года назад

The New Yorker did an interesting profile on Cixin Liu a few years back. His comments in that profile along with his works really showcase how scifi can show you the mindset of the person (and culture) producing it. The entire concept of the Dark Forest probably has special resonance in China given the "Century of Humiliation" that's part of their current cultural narrative.

@cyborgchicken3502 2 года назад

@@Low_commotion there is some of that but honestly I also got some anti CCP or rather criticism of the CCP vibes from it especially since the story starts off with the Cultural Revolution in the 60s in China and how it drives one of the early protagonists to end up despising humanity, also the Trisolarians mass surveillance technology could point at China's surveillance issues, the denunciations of world leaders also reminds me of Cultural Revolution struggle sessions enforced by the Red Guards, but there's also Cold War USA Vs Soviet Union vibes with regards to how humanity implements a Mutually Assured Destruction plan to checkmate the aliens...I feel like there's a lot more than just the Era of Humiliation there, I think he also expressed his true feelings about his own country in a very smart and undercover way using Sci Fi as a smoke screen since apparently his own family experienced persecution during the Cultural Revolution according to online sources about his life.

@JAR792 2 года назад

God Emperor of Mankind: "Now this looks like a job for me."

@craigsinclair171 2 года назад

Material universe: WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! Immaterial universe: Tee hee!

@JAR792 2 года назад

@@craigsinclair171 "Dem Triso-whatzit Boyz iz in fer a good krumpin'"

@food4j 2 года назад

I swear I was gonna write this comment!!! Hail the Emperor! All hail the Imperiuam!

@Bob-jd4nr 2 года назад

Then I guess he wouldn't try space marines this time,because DARK FOREST means the war in heaven never ends until the end of the universe,and each forces do not necessarily have to see each other before they win. So,basically no waaagh,no glorious close-quarter combat,just build enough galaxy-destroying weapon and throw it to every suspicious star system from far,then you are in the lowest level of war in DARK FOREST system.

@food4j 2 года назад

@@Bob-jd4nr The crazy thing is you still basically described the warhammer series for it is endless war.

@eugenexia3634 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, it is a nice trilogy. I am privileged to be able to read it in its original Chinese. It has a great deal of cultural references that only the native speakers can get. There are problems with the books, but the scale and imagination are incredible. He even manages to slip in a nice fairy tale and makes it the central plot of the third book.

@blackpajamas6600 5 месяцев назад

Curious to hear your criticism/problems with the narrative.

@eugenexia3634 5 месяцев назад

@@blackpajamas6600 The trilogy contains too much pop science that doesn't add not add much, but slow down the momentum. The trilogy was classified for young readers because there is so much pop science in it. The author is a great admirer of Arthur C. Clarke who does pay a great deal of attention to real science. However, Clarke is also very careful not to introduce bogus science, with the exception of an engine that allows for space travel. His "Rendevou with Rama" is a prime example. Liu tries to do that, but his stories have too much fantasy elements. This is fine. The problem is when he tries to reconcile these elements with real science.

@zy18457 5 месяцев назад

@@eugenexia3634Are you living in china?

@LC-wv7tz 5 месяцев назад

@@eugenexia3634 This is one of my complaints. I wouldn't have used the term "pop science", but there is an information overload a lot of the time where he provides excruciating detail about technology, policies, or certain practices that are really not important to the development of the story or the central ideas and questions the novels are posing. It does get bogged down in that stuff a lot and it effects both pacing and also kind of distracts from the more interesting parts of the novels. I've found the novels Blindsight and Echopraxia provide a somewhat similar feeling to Remembrance of Earth's Past, but with a lot of this "fat" trimmed out. The scientific ideas are pretty concrete and well developed and when they are introduced, they are dovetailed almost perfectly with the themes the novels are exploring.

@tsitsuschmitzu8597 4 месяца назад

please expand your experience as a native chinese reader with your experience with the english translation. For instance I read Dune in three languages three very different languages and the narrative never lost power intrigue and joy. How does it feels to you as a native chinese reader and a maybe native english reader? please share

@nirbhaysharma1214 2 месяца назад

Hey Quinn, I watched this video almost an year ago and bought the trilogy. I finally finished rrading Death's End yesterday and can't get the story out of my mind. Thank you so much for this channel and these videos, it sparked an interest in me wanting to get back to reading and I feel like I've finally been able to get back to reading. Your pitch for the story felt like a strong enough hook for me to make time, I have always loved science fiction and I wanted to thank you for helping me get back into reading after almost a decade. Now I can finally watch all your other 3 body problem videos as well, so amazing spot to discuss the story now that Ive finished it. Thank you, once again!

@Andreas0424 2 года назад

After watching the first minute of this video back in October, I went out and read all three books and finally finished the video today. Thanks for the awesome recommendation and the quality content Quinn!

@FWilson15 2 года назад

Same here! Finished Death's End today and am now sitting down to watch all of Quinn's Three Body videos.

@mkohanek 2 года назад

Haha wow, yeah same here. I watched the first minute, and after he said it was sci-fi horror, I was like, well I have to read that.

@slslbbn4096 2 года назад

Another perspective not understood by most western readers is that the Chinese have a long recorded history (3200-3600 years written history). Their experience was that one can attain supremacy and suzerainty for a period, but there would always be random technological breakthroughs or advances or climate developments that can and will change the balance of power. No power can ever remain a superpower forever - this explains why the aliens seek to eliminate any other civilization whenever possible in the Dark Forest theory. The Chinese have been there where they experienced multiple golden ages as the top civilization on earth while they have also experienced and equal number of equally catastrophic disasters/collapses/decline. They are very cognizant of this fact even as they are once more on the ascendancy. In comparison, the US with it's merely 246 years of history (barely a single dynasty out of 24 official Chinese dynasties) has the hubris to think they can be the top superpower forever. Their history is too short - unlike the British, Spanish, Roman empires. It is an arrogance born of ignorance

@Andreas0424 2 года назад

@@slslbbn4096 Weakness and ignorance are not barriers to survival, but arrogance is.

@joshuagathere654 2 года назад

Same! This was an amazing read.

@spookyfish6981 2 года назад

The ideas get bigger and bigger. And absolutely terrifying at parts. The teardrop scene messed my mind, but the choices made by Starship Earth totally fried my brain and gave me a sleepless night. Genius.

@mythicdawn9574 Год назад

Last third of Death's End is dreadful. It's the worst I've ever felt when reading a book lol, this is really the moment I "understood" the Dark Forest like Luo Ji did. And even when the greater things are somewhat secured, what happens to main character (deserved or not) is so brutal it broke the last hopes I had in me. The dark forest is horrific, but the sheer size and force of the universe itself makes you realize how small and insignificant anyone really is.

@BiPolarBear128 Год назад

this was so refreshing to come across here on youtube , such an intelligent , articulate and philosophic approach to life in the universe , I am overjoyed to have discovered this channel and look forward to going through the content , this youtube channel deserves more views and subscribers

@mumsow Год назад

Sounds absolutely fascinating and chilling! You tell an eloquent and suspenseful story yourself, thank you!

@rumnraisin Год назад

This series strikes me as a reflection of Chinese history specifically. A region so old and with such well kept records going back thousands of years, and you can see how they persevered through external threats, self destruction, famine and ecological problems stemming from human activity, history being altered with heroes becoming villains and vice versa. Even man's impact on a planet as the Three Gorges Dam literally changed the tilt and rotation of the Earth when it was built. He's applied this history to the entire universe and followed it to its logical end, and thats the scariest part: its all happened before and will happen again. Great video 👏👏

@aggrogator4045 Год назад

Probably just as true as the great wall of China "being visible from space" 🙄🙄🙄

@BillClinton228 Год назад

He's pretty much describing the build up to the "Cultural Revolution" and the consequences thereafter.

@rumnraisin Год назад

@@aggrogator4045 fair point tbh

@dawnizz6324 Год назад

Liu Cixin once said in the preamble: "The author tries to tell a reinterpretation of modern Chinese history on the scale of light year. " I'm glad that you could see it from a different view, rather than merely observe it as a science fiction.😄😄

@ikagura Год назад

@@dawnizz6324 "merely as science fiction" way to undermine an entire genre...

@SNOWSOS 2 года назад

I really like that idea of hunters in the dark forest killing out of safety

@mute8136 2 года назад

Same

@thyrassword9698 2 года назад

@@mute8136 Its the most depressing thought in a universal sense the worst part is, it rings true.

@mute8136 2 года назад

@@thyrassword9698 ok

@nobody8717 2 года назад

its a universal constant. Its the same, at every level. exist, propagate, prosper. in that order, at every scale. from single celled organisms in a drop of water, to complex organisms competing with each other, to symbiotic relationships between individuals, parasites even, then you get to families, groups, clans, societies, cities, states, countries, planets, systems, sectors...

@Ulieq 2 года назад

Tells you something about Chinese thinking, and why the U.S. should Nuke China as soon as possible

@ybemad Месяц назад

One of the things that I love about science fiction is how often these sci-fi scenarios are used to explore the nature of humanity, or the human experience from a fresh perspective. The Netflix series really brought to the forefront the concept of lying. We do it knowing it is not good, and also take it for granted that everyone does it. It is a striking plot point in the Netflix series.

@ar0010 Год назад

I miss reading books; this video series inspired me to immediately buy the first book, which I’ll be able to start reading tomorrow. In the meantime, these videos are so good that I had to keep watching, even with spoilers, even though I’m still going to read it. Thanks!

@nuprophett 2 года назад

This series is DEEPLY disturbing. Loved it, but it left existential and philosophical scars

@gigiflaner3568 2 года назад

Agreed, very disturbing and depressing series! Huge in scope.

@kamau506 2 года назад

I found the ending to be so profound. Everyone in the universe has/had to altruistically abandon their personal universes in order for the big bang to happen anew. That is the core of faith.

@TheKna978 2 года назад

How? can you elaborate more?

@boya1986 2 года назад

@@kamau506 yeah,and the first version Liu wrote was that because Cheng selfishly collected 5KG from the universe ,the start point of bigbang had a tiny hole,so the bigbang couldn't success and the universe was killed by one human's selfish tho the editor thought it's way too dark,so he had to change it,but he said it's his favourite ending

@andarsi3500 2 года назад

@@boya1986 this is faith-deconstruction. Very dangerous approach, especially for young thinkers. This is like coco...once tried, hard or impossible to go back...but it doesn't mean that's the right way to think. Secondly: there is no conclusion which confirms in our soul. We are created for relationships, but nothing mentions here...so be careful! For me only Christianity solves existencial, philosophical and eternal problem.

@dogamusprime1123 2 года назад

It's important to remember that this book series is pure fiction. If the concept of the dark forest terrifies you, then you should look up all of the reasons why it's probably not even plausible. Also important to remember that for any human to say that they understand 'secrets of the universe', is hubris of the highest order. Humanity has never even really left this planet. The book does a good job of pointing this out, actually. Also important to remember that cooperation is the primary axiom of life. It's not competition as is commonly accepted, because if the balance of competition outweighed cooperation, then complex life would simply not exist. There would be no mitochondria, and the great oxidation would have wiped out all life. Just pointing this stuff out in case anyone needs some brain bleach. While this series is poetically beautiful, it's also horribly depressing. It's a worse case scenario. I love this channel. Basically one of the few channels that makes quality, thought provoking content. Thanks Quinn.

@droe2570 2 года назад

"Also important to remember that cooperation is the primary axiom of life. It's not competition as is commonly accepted" I generally agree with this, though I have some caveats I will not go into. However, there is a lot of violent competition between tribal groups and nations. It makes sense that a species on one planet would find it safer to simply annihilate a species on another planet.

@kiendn 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more. Pretty much the whole story relied on "worst case scenario" at nearly every turn. For one, there was absolutely no way a humanity with ships capable of 15% the speed of light, hibernation tech and everything in-between would have collectively agreed to stay on a doomed planet for 60+ years. The ban on escapism was unrealistic nonsense and self contradictory within the story itself. For two, the entire premise banks on most civilizations being system-bound and planet-bound. The books also made a point about the difficulty in tracking starships. And yet the solution is under-utilized and left as a last resort.

@pk0611581 2 года назад

I think the Cultural Revolution has a deep impact on the formation of the dark forest analogy

@orirune3079 2 года назад

@@kiendn Yeah, the ban on escapism was one of the sillier aspects IMO. This series truly is a masterpiece, but there are a few aspects of it that made me shake my head a little. The Wallfacers are another - a really interesting plot point, but completely impractical IMO. There's no way a single person could invent and contain such complex plans in their head, with no external reference whatsoever. And on top of that, the surveillance of the sophons would render them unable to do any sort of calculation or research, because whatever they were planning would become very apparent.

@justincoates4582 2 года назад

It’s also worth noting that we already have the technology to escape the Earth and even the solar system via nuclear rocket technology.

@migdvv 4 месяца назад

Much love from Brazil 🇧🇷 Quinn, thank you for your amazing work. I learned about Three-Body Problem from your channel, and It has become one of my most favorite sci-fi works ever!

@mechsistah2395 10 месяцев назад

Okay, just wanted to thank you for pointing to towards this series. It was such an epic experience, had genuine surprises and contained concepts that were new... which is always a singular experience for a long-time sci-fi fan. I did notice the gap between what must have been the translation from Chinese language & experience to my own, but that didn't take away from the pleasure of reading. And there was so much science in my sci-fi!! Now I can watch your video's on this subject... didn't want to spoil it for myself & am very glad I waited.

@AnonAdderlan 2 года назад

So we destroyed ourselves over fear of a distant enemy. Sounds legit.

@meesalikeu 2 года назад

@@jakobinobles3263 except we cant and you forgot the how highly advanced they are part. its bad. real bad.

@XimCines 2 года назад

As a Peruvian whose society is beginning to rip appart because our president shows sign of being a tyrant, it seems completely believable. We are tearing appart because we expect the worse of him and can't get a unique solution or a rational one. That will become true when we throw him out in a few months, just pray it has a peaceful ending and not one with a broken society. So much the biggest player in Peruvian economy, Antamina mine (one of the biggest copper mines of the world), has closed yesterday due to this, adding pressure.

@frags6940 2 года назад

So… my stellaris game?

@scottwatrous 2 года назад

Humanity more-or-less tries to destroy most of itself multiple times through the book series, and on occasion does a half-decent job of it.

@waynedarronwalls6468 2 года назад

The real enemy is within...

@dagingerdude 2 года назад

The argument that the products of life are unnatural falls flat for me. Tool users naturally produce and use tools, they build on those tools making better tools. All this is natural. Concrete, steel, and such are all as natural as honey, or maple syrup. It is all a matter of perspective, and modern society is too caught up in guilt complex to recognise these, and to recognise that new tools can be made which are better at not destroying our environment. Separating Life from other natural forces feels contrived. That said, I love this trilogy. It does a lot which has been left by the wayside in many recent releases.

@MegaKossak 2 года назад

Wise commint

@Powermad-bu4em 2 года назад

It sounds like paranoid misanthropic nihilist dreck. Hard pass.

@geordiejones5618 2 года назад

Cosmic horror is fun but the the goal of cosmic harmony is underexplored. Imagine a species that's reduced its energy consumption to virtually nothing, because its reduced its size to smaller scales, able to see with their own eyes the smallest mechanisms of the universe.

@TheKjtheDj 2 года назад

If the dark forest hypothesis was true, we would have been wiped out long ago. Why wait for life to turn sentient when you could eradicate it at the start? Just get a few million asteroids, accelerate them to relativistic speeds, and smash them all into a planet at once. That shouldn’t be difficult for a civilization that has the power to collapse dimensions. You could sterilize the whole galaxy in a few hundred million years.

@thrrax 2 года назад

By "natural" we denominate those elements that have a huge chance of achieving their maximum evolution via freeform in the environment. A tractor isn't "natural", because the chances of it being produced by freeform nature itself without the intervention of a powerful intelligent force, are 0, regardless if the materials from which it is made all come in some form, from nature itself. Steel isn't "natural", because the chances of freeform elemental and chemical forces producing it in "nature" are incredibly low, almost impossible. Same as concrete.

@ivangutierrez7602 6 месяцев назад

About a year and some change ago I saw this video recommended, clicked on it and got till the starting premise of the first book (a number of scientists killing themselves out of a sort of existencial crisis) and decided that I wanted to read this book, now after finishing the series I can come back and man, what a great series, I honestly can't recall the last sci fi book that gave me so much to think about, it took me way more than usual to finish the series because I had to take breaks between the existential dread by reading other books in between, Cixin Liu manages to protray humanity with eerie accuracy and the ideas presented are honestly amazing, it has become one of my favourite book series, so thanks for making this video that lead to several existential crises for me.

@ytytboy Год назад

@quinn'sideas thank you so much for posting this. I have not yet listened to much of it, but I am half way through the third book in the series, all thanks to you. I don't know you but sending brotherly love for introducing this author to me. Amazing!

@bhbluebird 2 года назад

The "Dark Forest" concept was terrifying because it does kind of makes sense. This was a disturbing book in a way that Ray Bradbury stories disturbing during the Cold War. This is what great science fiction should be.

@slevinchannel7589 2 года назад

Worryingly, Anti-Science is on the Rise. Thats why i randomly recommend stuff like science-channel to others and/or ask them to recommend something to me i dont know. Yeah, I'm often perceived as random, but who cares? I wanna actively know i really spread Education and Fun; hopefully both at the same time. ...Would you mind if i recommend you some good stuff to give a Try?

@MortalWombat1988 2 года назад

It really doesn't though. Dark forest hypothesis is not even considered a weak Fermi Paradox solution. It predisposes that EVERY single civilization in the history of ever would come to the same faulty conclusion. Not just that, but every single MEMBER of every single civilization, across billions of years. Secondly, it doesn't work because even with current or near future technology, we could detect ourselves over pretty significant distances. Lastly, even if the faulty presumption of the book were true, a better strategy would probably to Dyson up and acquire as much energy and material to arm yourself for your defense. The Idea that not a single civilization, deliberately or accidentally, would go down this path, is preposterous. Isaac Arthur made a pretty good video about it. It's a really good story though, and that's what counts for a novel.

@carljohan9265 2 года назад

@@MortalWombat1988 People in general WASTLY underestimate how insanely huge the universe truly is. You don't need to kill each other "dark forest" style when the space you have to yourself is so unbelivably, massively vast.

@olivierdastein2604 2 года назад

It doesn't "kind of" makes sense. It makes complete sense. If we assume several civilizations similar to ours, even peaceful and willing to cooperate originally, given enough time there will eventually be some cosmic equivalent of Hitler bend on destroying the others. If this happening is a near certainty, you're better off immediately eliminating the others if you can, in order not to be among those destroyed at some future point. The idea that the explanation to the Fermi paradox is that all existing civilizations stay silent and hidden for a good reason isn't new to Liu Cixin. it has been postulated long ago.

@MortalWombat1988 2 года назад

@@olivierdastein2604 The problem is that dark forest hypothesis has been discounted as a fermi paradox solution, even a weak one, since it is strategically unsound and, more importantly, it's not enough to postulate something why we may not hear some aliens, we need something that explains why we hear none at all. Not something that just concerns itself with "what might most aliens do", but something that every single species, and beyond, every single MEMEBER of every single species adheres to. Dark Forest falls apart because it predisposes that no species ever will weaponized their star, none ever will ask "hey, is anyone out there", none will fear consequences from an older, more powerful species for genocide. It's a cool story but as a fermi paradox solution it's beyond hopeless.

@WadeMFilms 2 года назад

Quinn, your book collection is the stuff of legends. Even your duplicate copies of Dune are worthy to have just for the amazing cover art each one has and how different and yet connected they all feel.

@slevinchannel7589 2 года назад

@@chiputiman Worryingly, Anti-Science is on the Rise. Thats why i randomly recommend stuff like science-channel to others and/or ask them to recommend something to me i dont know. Yeah, I'm often perceived as random, but who cares? I wanna actively know i really spread Education and Fun; hopefully both at the same time. ...Would you mind if i recommend you some good stuff to give a Try?

@mariusweber4990 Год назад

This channel is helping me find so many interesting new books to read, I love it.

@elena3941 3 месяца назад

ive just finished deaths end today and read through deaths end as a whole in maybe 3 days. absolutely phenomenal. i’ve never felt so in awe of the sheer epic of liu cixin‘s ideas

@ZephyrusAsmodeus 2 года назад

Okay, the Dark Forest supposition is actually is a pretty unsettling thought. This reminds me greatly of a story i read called The Quiet Sky I'd definitely recommend it, it's a very short story but it exemplifies this kind of cosmic dread really well.

@Roachh2877 2 года назад

That story still creeps me out. The sense of doom and hopelessness that story made me feel was insane.

@JsJdv 2 года назад

The notion itself is ridiculous, entirely founded on human thought process and completely disregards the possibility that extraterrestrial life is diverse. There would be tyrant civilizations but to suggest that others would open fire at the sight of intelligent life is absurd. Having said all that, I also think it's still necessary for us to develop technology that could hide our coordinates before developing ones that would help us venture out to the unknown.

@ZephyrusAsmodeus 2 года назад

@@JsJdv Well, it's meant to be scary, you're obviously right about the diversity, but the idea and scale of the thought is the unsettling part about it, not the real life application

@burningbronze7555 2 года назад

It's unsettling but seems more like a horrible thought than something honestly logical.

@arandonnganner2566 2 года назад

@@JsJdv the logical explanation of the dark forest theory is in the book

@sorkaem 2 года назад

After reading The Dark Forest, I can't help but be a little bit worried each time I look at the night sky...each single star could be the sun of a civilization that would be ready to wipe us out if it found out we exist.

@svenlauke1190 Год назад

its only one answer to the Fermi paradox. and not even the most likely one. this is of course based on our understanding of physics, but still. and even if inter stellar travel is possible, its no guarantee that DF is true. it would require a single species to A) be capable of colonizing vast amounts of any given galaxy and B) still remain a coherent unit as a species. Its even mentioned in the book itself, that the fringe worlds of a high tech civilization are the main threat to the home world of its own species. In a universe where you can't trust your own species all the way, galactic colonialisation has its limits. thus no need to eradicate other species without restraint. especially since cooperation brings huge benefits

@alexanderjakubowski5673 Год назад

What if "high tech" isn't even a thing throughout the rest of the universe, but just a unique way that human beings have adapted to their environment? What if we're the only ones who have developed this sort of technology, and it's either nonexistent, or very rare, elsewhere.

@svenlauke1190 Год назад

@@alexanderjakubowski5673 that is pretty mich equal to "no intelligent life" then. obviously from our perspective. and in the end, its all relative as usual. but if no one out there is capable of communication or travel, then no one is really "intelligent" on a cosmological scale (assuming those things are possible to begin with)

@corticorti4531 Год назад

For me, I started to wonder if we are seen as ants by other possible cosmic civilisations. Small and insignificant.

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@Wraith-Kryptos Год назад

Great video! Your interpretation of the works of liu is really good. Think its great that his work gets a bit of attention, cause it deserves it.

@SuitUpDubstep 4 месяца назад

I came across this video by pure chance a while back while trying to find some books to read, as I recently got back in to reading. I was so thoroughly fascinated by your video that I had to buy the trilogy immediately. I just finished The Dark Forest yesterday. Man what a ride it has been. When Luo Ji explained the Dark Forest theory in the forest, it made me actually sweat from anxiety. I have to take a breather before sinking my teeth into Death's End. A lot to process from the first two books before I'm ready for the third. Thanks for exposing this trilogy as I'd probably never have found this my self.

@TravisJohnsonncc1701 Год назад

This series had the bleakest depiction of humanity I've ever seen. I want to know who hurt Liu.

@hufe223 Год назад

There was a joke about Liu working on the second book Dark Forest. One day he was playing chess with a co worker who took the sadistic pleasure of killing his pieces one by one. After the chess game Liu wrote on his computer: annihilation. That's the highest respect a civilization can receive🤣

@jerryren748 Год назад

This is one of the most accurate description of humanity when faced with the threat of destruction.

@Grayto Год назад

If anything, he goes pretty light on humanity. I highly doubt humanity would be capable of coming together at all given the state of division and apathy we live in. Building space fleets, putting cities around Jupiter, THAT is giving humanity a lot of credit IMO.

@jaytomson3492 Год назад

Personally I think humanity in 40k is the most bleak & dreadful I've ever seen us depicted. A highly zealous, xenophobic and militaristic humanity worshipping a human as a god, who's been dead for millennia, sitting in a throne that keeps him "alive". 1000 psykers a day are sacrificed to keep the God Emperor going, even though nobody knows if that actually works. Trillions of people suffering in massive hive cities, waiting either to waste away, be drafted as cannonfodder or be made into mindless servitors for the most menial tasks (just to name a few). Humanity also forgot the knowledge on how the invent new technologies, forgot how older technology works and pretty much ductaped their way to survival. Also pretty much the entire galaxy and every species is at war with one another for millennia. There's only war. This description doesn't even do it justice and in a way, a galaxy full of lovecraftian horrors would make one think on how to survive this as a species.

@bobbeezel2593 Год назад

Life. Life in general. Frankly, I’m sick of it too

@MonkeSeeMonkeLaugh Год назад

"If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans," -Stephen Hawking

@arik2216 Год назад

Yeah but colombus is follower of bloody god of abraham/Christianity. He, his kingdom and his crew felt having a right to Genocide and enslave the anti christ. We are screw If Alien is a christian or muslim.

@damright Год назад

were either on the menu.. or a workforce ... if they can get here we are so behind the loop we would be unable to recover

@unreconstructed Год назад

Shit, give me a casino, land that I govern myself, and free money every year. Sounds awesome.

@Spiceodog Год назад

But are we Columbus or are we the natives

@Spiceodog Год назад

@@unreconstructed lmao

@Soraeon 6 месяцев назад

Your videos are always on point. I always appreciate your breakdowns and explanations.

@edog101 Месяц назад

This is the second video of yours I've watched today. Your approach is compelling and well-organized, and your language is expressive and precise. Your use of music and ambient sound is also excellent. Bravo and subscribed.

@TomTubesYou 2 года назад

So I started reading the first book and read it in a single day. My biggest takeaway is this: the book's initial idea, that being "what if we discovered that physics did not exist and science was a lie" to be INFINITELY more interesting than what the book ended up as, which was an "bad aliens coming, buckle up" story. The idea of all humanity's ideas about how the universe works and what the fundamental laws of nature are turning out to be completely false is seriously more compelling than an alien misinformation campaign. Surely I'm not the only one who had this reaction. Surely.

@spookyfish6981 2 года назад

I agree. It was a red herring. The book was fine without having to entice us on that premise.

@NihilistAlien 2 года назад

Yeah, this book didn't impress me. The fact that the author think the Chinese communist party is a good ruling party and the Xinjiang genocide is legit didn't help

@comediangj4955 2 года назад

@@NihilistAlien ...... Did you write those things in your copy yourself and then read it as part of the book?

@NihilistAlien 2 года назад

@@comediangj4955 just watch an interview if Liu, his book reek totalitarian government apologist, "you have to get together and abandon your ego the outside world want you dead, genocides are ok if it's for stability" that just obvious

@squirlmy 2 года назад

@@NihilistAlien yes, but, I think a majority of the 1 billion other Chinese actually agree with him. Compare that numberwise to Western Europeans and North Americans... Well for that matter, the U.S., and most of the Americas were found upon genocide for which very little in the way of reparations have been attempted... I can't question Liu's beliefs in these things without seeing a lot of hypocrisy in my own society.

@jaxager 2 года назад

Not gonna lie, this series of books scared the shit out of me and continues to do so. Learning of the dark forest theory has changed my whole way of thinking about our place in the cosmos.

@jth4242 2 года назад

It should be read like a ghost story and it really has no solid basis in reality.

@Hijab_Diffusion 2 года назад

@@jth4242 unlike ghost extra terrestrial lives are real, do you even know what's Fermi paradox is?

@jth4242 2 года назад

@@Hijab_Diffusion It's only a paradox if you already assume that intelligent life exists out there.

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 2 года назад

+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." Amen 🙏!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME." In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ." Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE." And please repent of all of your sins and be baptized by the Holy Spirit before it is too late, you will never know when the time will come 🙏!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen 🙏!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jaxager 2 года назад

@@jth4242 There are billions of other planets out there. To think that we are the only ones in the cosmos is extremely stupid or extremely arrogant.

@josemarin5305 Месяц назад

Quinn, I was here 2 years ago when you first released this video. Crazy that you're most likely going to get a good amount of traffic because of Netflix! Great video

@khyrianstorms 9 месяцев назад

Binging all these videos at the moment. This channel is wonderful.

@skehleben7699 2 года назад

I loved this series, especially in terms of cultural expression. References, descriptions, all from a different cultural point of view. A phenomenal job of translation! Can't recommend the books enough!!

@jonhanson8925 2 года назад

Right. The books are great sci-fi, period. But the uniquely Chinese perspective adds a lot of additional value. The stuff about the Cultural Revolution in the first book was incredible and set a very unique tone, forcing me to look at things from a perspective that was new for me. I really loved it.

@marcobiral2883 2 года назад

I owe you a big "thank you" for having introduced me to this mind blowing trilogy. I read the books in a couple of months to allow myself enough time to absorb the extreme concepts of each one before taking on the following and I must say they now rank among my top 5 science fiction stories of all time. As an incidental thought, I noticed how some concepts of the dark forest theory easily apply to modern warfare (i.e. stealth technology, submarine tactics, satellite intelligence surveillance) as they revolve around the idea of "listening without being detected" in order to gain the initiative for a preemptive, deadly strike.

@bartpastoor1028 Год назад

Have reread the whole trilogy, now as hardcopy whilst before as ebook. For me too, this is best SF series I ever read, putting Asimov series now to second. So many new thoughts and insights. Your video’s do right to these. Beautiful art and well thought spoken content. Thanks so much for that.

@gregorydardasm.d.3754 4 месяца назад

I'm on my second reading of this truly monumental work. Thanks for your very well organized and presented summary and comments!

@silentrocco 2 года назад

That trilogy is the latest and one of the greatest scifi masterpieces ever written. Easily on a level with the most famous scifi novels out there. Writing, scope, concepts, philosophies… it‘s all in there.

@wtfihavetoregister 2 года назад

My take is similar, but couple things make it not to rise above "decent book": Humanity/people making incedibly unrealistic, shortsighted and bad decidions where there is little questioning and next to no dissent (escapism ban for example) and mysoginy where women exist to dooms humanity multiple times due to being womanly.

@jvelez5381 2 года назад

@@wtfihavetoregister well he is Chinese so morbid writing is a given

@wygds2097 2 года назад

@@wtfihavetoregister Look at the epidemic in the United States. I read this book many years ago. At that time, I was very angry and very sad about the stupidity of one person and cause the destruction of all mankind. But now I can understand that ordinary people can only choose leaders they like Instead of electing capable leaders, the destruction of mankind is due to the naivety of the masses, not the fault of Chengxin. Electoral systems can be detrimental in the face of major crises.

@leacipurr 2 года назад

"Because they're hiding"... along with your excellent reading voice, has given me chills. Excellent.

@rjsmind 6 месяцев назад

This video is the reason I read the books. Thank you Quinn and keep up the good work :)

@seasoda3319 9 месяцев назад

Hands-down the best series I've ever read! I've read it 3 times!

@kristoferhutter3873 Год назад

Quinn, months ago, I watched the first few minutes of the video. I went and bought the books on Amazon immediately because it intrigued me so much. Just finished all 3, truly some of the Greatest and most intricate books I've ever read. Definitely some of the greatest sci Fi, definitely some of my favorite books out there. I cannot thank you enough for the recommendation. I have been trying to motivate myself to read like I did when I was a kid, and this was it man.

@manynukes11 9 месяцев назад

If anyone is starting the series, assume your predictions are wrong because everything that happened was so unexpected and yet believable. Liu is such a forward thinker and it's reflected in the concepts he created.

@Devil-Made Месяц назад

3:03 Thank you for the spoiler warning. I’ve been curious about this series but haven’t taken the plunge into reading them yet. It was actually your intro to this video that made me decide to read them next. You’ve got the same taste and general reading history as myself, so I knew this series would be worth my time. I’m stopping now and will resume sometime in the future, but I am immediately subscribing. You’ve earned it. Thanks for the book recommendation and especially for not spoiling it. I appreciate it!

@Clay_Town195 2 года назад

Dude, this is the first video of yours that I’ve watched, and I had to comment and say it blew me away how incredibly well spoken you are! Phenomenal job my man! Keep up the great work.

@Netsmile Год назад

The 'battle' to defend Earth, the Mutually Assured Destruction, the fate of the escaping ships. The sheer scope of space and time this book series dares ans succeeds to include is mind blowing.

@mr.v2689 4 месяца назад

Thanks for all this great remembrance content Quinn!!!

@dapetergshow Год назад

Just found your channel Quinn, love it man !! Keep up the good work. Up there with Mr Ballen in terms of quality, all while being completely different in style. God bless you sir

@thegoodfolk 2 года назад

Definately adding this to my reading list. I would say that the scariest sci-fi short story is I Have No Mouth but I Must Scream.

@warpartyattheoutpost4987 2 года назад

Harlan Ellison is great! Check out Philip K. Dick's "Upon The Dull Earth" for another terrifically terrifying short story.

@sirgog 2 года назад

I Must Scream is great, and does come close to The Dark Forest (book 2 of 3-body) in pure terror.

@Kenshiro3rd 2 года назад

This is up there with IHNMBIMS. It’s on THAT level… except rather than being condensed, this one is drawn out and let’s you stew in it. It give you a mouth to scream with… then tells you not to make a sound for the rest of your life, or you will die.

@bigsarge2085 2 года назад

I Have No Mouth is definitely existentially terrifying.

@tarikrobot8568 2 года назад

I was looking for this in the comments.

@cybersnap6072 2 года назад

This series absolutely blew me away. What an achievement. Glad to see this channel covering it.

@barrborrah 7 месяцев назад

Im so glad I can continue to exist in this book series after reading it thanks to your videos :’)

@neilgrundy Год назад

It was this very video that compelled me to read this trilogy. I have now read it four times. I can't possibly thank you enough.

@nickfoster9350 2 года назад

2:45 Done! In two minutes and forty five seconds, you have completely sold me on a series. Many thanks for this. I will watch the rest of your video after these books have been read.

@paliniki5897 2 года назад

It was 2:50 for me 😂

@hunterwilk 2 года назад

I was reading the books, got to this point, stopped and finished reading first. Came back now that I'm done and glad I did. It's a good video and a great read and I'm glad I didn't spoil it for myself. To be fair though, there's a ton of interpersonal and global experience that is glossed over in the video, otherwise it'd have been much, much longer.

@wuasqi2665 2 года назад

how's your progress?

@tallyboyle9148 2 года назад

The fact you have managed to do this whole guide and not even mention Wallfacers (which was the most innovative and terrifying part for me... my little mind was blown by its originality and brilliance) is a measure of amazing this trilogy is.

@thatguy9196 2 года назад

Can you tell me about it?

@anjelatitova4126 2 года назад

Me too

@flyingstonemon3564 2 года назад

Wallfacers?

@tallyboyle9148 2 года назад

@@flyingstonemon3564 Basically the bad guys can see anything/everything we do as humans. We can keep no secrets from them. The solution? Grant four people complete power to do anything they want. Any wish. Any desire. The whole of humanity will facilitate it. Their only job? Come up with a way to defeat the aliens. Only you can't tell anyone about it (as they will see it/hear it). This is why they are wallfacers- turning their faces away from humanity. Of course the aliens now try and guess what the wallfacers are up to... And designate agents to work out the plans The wallbreakers. And the ultimate game of mental cat and mouse begins...

@flyingstonemon3564 2 года назад

@@tallyboyle9148 That's actually really interesting of a way to deal with the alien intelligency, but also a fairly terrifying idea to grant such a limited number such powers, but the game is worth the candle in this case is It

@davehoagland8869 Месяц назад

I read these books years ago after seeing a recommendation from Obama, he described The Three Body Problem as 'wildly original'. So true, there are astonishing ideas presented seemingly every ten pages, one after another!

@linthorsten5265 3 месяца назад

I'm here again just to say thank you man. You made me read these books and they're awesome! I love all history and the third book is my favorite of all time. So thanks again for show me this trilogy 💪

@joeblaster8770 2 года назад

What if we brought Duncan Idaho back to life again so he can lead Space Force? 🙃

@ememememem592 2 года назад

Let the guy rest

@dubuyajay9964 2 года назад

@@ememememem592 But humanity *needs* him...

@MyMarsham 2 года назад

Meanwhile, back at the axolotl tanks…

@II-hj3hz 2 года назад

Humanity needs the astartes program of warhammer 40k

@Deridus 2 года назад

@@II-hj3hz Howabout we make Duncan Idaho an astartes Ghola?

@SeansTop5 Год назад

I started this video 9 months ago, got 5 minutes in and stopped until I started and finished the trilogy. Thank you for introducing this amazing series to me!

@mott9993 Месяц назад

Your narration and voice are OUTSTANDING!!!

@mickflod9969 Год назад

Mr. Quinn...absolutely brilliant work. Your word's combined with authors word's, great work. Thank you. It's inspirational!

@DmitriVanderbilt 2 года назад

YES!!!! I was beyond excited when you announced you were reading 3BP, only a minute in but I'm betting this will be one of your best videos!!! ❤️❤️ Love your work Quinn, can't wait for Tadyha.

@dconov 2 года назад

(Spoiler Alerts ahead) I was lucky to have read this series as I got the first volume free when I started my Tor subscription. I am 63, the first SF I read was Asimov's Foundation Series when i was in the seventh grade, ironically introduced to me by my Nazarene pastor, it of course set me on towards an eventual secular world view. Thank you Quinn for your great analysis of what I do think is one of the greatest SF stories in the genre. Incredibility imaginative and rich in detail. The motive for the reply to the alien warning during the Chinese cultural revolution was great. I am also impressed by how you described the tone of pessimism in the series. This may be culturally chauvinistic to state, but, I wonder if this is not somehow an influence of Chinese culture, I particularly remember the inflexibility aboard the Chinese ship near the end. I don't remember the ending being all that positive, but I did (spoiler alert) enjoy the depiction of the higher dimensional beings playfully folding of of what was left of Earth into kind of a string? ... I can't remember now, but it seems the protagonist ended up in some kind of 2-D cube, but i can't remember exactly what happened to him. Again, thanks for the summery, very well done. And if I am getting some of the details wrong, I apologize, it has been awhile since I read it.

@DrStrangeface Год назад

Just discovered your channel and I love it! Sorry to say I stopped watching your 'Hyperion' video half way through, but only because I had to order the book immediately and didn't want more spoilers. But it was because of your excellent video I now have what sounds like an amazing series of novels to look forward to. Thank you, will be checking out your channel regularly from here on in.

@matajification 2 года назад

As an old HP Lovecraft's fan, I can only say: "Thanks for making this video!" And thanks for revealing the existence of 刘慈欣 to me. I'll definitely read his books.

@Ryukachoo 2 года назад

The greatest tragedy of the series is how valuable a earth trisolaran alliance would have been. Two very fast developing very capable species of evolving literally right next to each other.... And for some reason, The proxima centaurans decide to invade another terrestrial planet instead of just building a Dyson swarm of Paradise-like orbital habitats..... It's somewhat like world war I in that it's a series of terrible happenstance all in sequence which leads to tragedy

@user-ex4kq1df9m 2 года назад

It's more interesting to watch the original Chinese version.

@NotSoSerious69420 Год назад

@@user-ex4kq1df9m the book translations are the same, sure some nuance may be missed but the majority of it transfers fine.

@AnarchoCatBoyEthan Год назад

By watch do you mean the tv show or did you mean read?

@billhsu6349 Год назад

The earth and the Trisolaran are lucky enough to not have destroyed each other completely and actually had a chance of communicating, in the book countless civilizations just vanish without even have a chance to say hi.

@jerryren748 Год назад

@@AnarchoCatBoyEthan he meant read, English as second language mistake. PS. the TV show sucks noth Tencent and Netflix ones, i can tell just from the casting of the Netflix series that it's just gonna be another Hollywood styled American propaganda.

@justamanfromtaured6790 10 месяцев назад

As a bookworm, you are one of the greatest content creators I've seen. i immediately subscribe. keep up the good work looking forward 👍

@jaomello 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Quinn, didnt know about the series until I saw the video and read before going throught it. Thanks for the existentional horror that now lives in me.

@milodemoray 2 года назад

Thank you Quinn, Cixin Liu's ideas do seem to paint a bleak picture, but if we truly are alone in the universe, that in itself is equally frightening, perhaps more so.

@juliedelyn 2 года назад

Right on

@davis3138 2 года назад

I was thinking about that, and debating with myself on whether it'd better to find that we aren't alone, or we are truly alone, after all. I came to the conclusion that finding ourselves totally alone should not be frightening, it should be inspiring. It would be recognized, that the universe is our birthright, and it is the natural course of events that humans would be naturally predisposed to success.

@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад

The thought of being alone in an entire universe, a universe so enormous we literally can't conceive of how big it truly is, is an impossibility in my opinion. I find the very concept a human fallacy in actuality, the Fermi paradox and Drake equations rely on so many unknown factors that putting any stock into them is almost totally useless. It's not even philosophically debatable from our extremely limited vantage point. It might as well be an argument for God, but then that would also be a species of alien at the same time. No argument really works in favor of a hypothetical scenario of us being alone. We look to science fiction as a means of escape from the real world, so much so it's often used as an argument against the existence of alien life, but such arguments are asinine as they only explore human interpretations of future events that are as of yet unknown factors to us. We often use that as an argument against people that claim to have seen UFOs "you must watch too much sci-fi television" as if that in itself is the only possible explanation. What I find humanities biggest roadblock is are the very egos that bring us to such premature conclusions. The only real fact of the matter is that we are embarrassingly short of enough information to draw any real conclusions either way. Even so it's pretty much mathematically certain that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The odds that life is so rare that only we have evolved makes the universe itself so hostile to the development of life that only us evolving makes no sense itself. The entire argument collapses in on itself if that truly were the case.

@xyaeiounn 2 года назад

@@DeathBYDesign666 We live in the savage infancy of our kind, sentient, destructible and limited in endurance. I've heard educated people say that some people alive today will be among the first to never die. The immortals will struggle with a new human condition. Finally, as we become both immortal and indestructible there will be discussion as to which state is more romantic and poignant: the mortal and destructible, or the immortal and destructible? Which is more tragic, the life of a creature that knows it has only about 80 years to live, or the death of a creature that has lived for 80 million years? This is certain: how we manage to get through our days, crazed by dread and still managing to love and co-operate, will be a mystery to those endless ones. Our condition will be the subject of mathematical poetry and songs that take a year to listen to but are worth the time. Those songs will sound like Lustmord and/or Rammstein.

@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад

@@xyaeiounn Ahh a man with musical taste as well as social awareness I see. Though I think the only possibility of humans alive today of living practically forever is if they cryogenically preserved themselves, I think we are still some centuries away from true immortality. If that was what you meant I totally agree with pretty much everything you said.