The Most Mysterious and Disturbing MASS EFFECT ICEBERG THEORIES 

"Legion is the window to the geth." But geth don't have windows

In the part, where you talk about the Ardat-yakhsi, the codex literally said that banshee can be created from asari with latent gene, and because asari rarely mate with other asari, there can be ton of them, in one family, and never actually become them. So number of banshees has no impact on number of living Ardat-yakhsi before reaper harvest.

The fact that they've made Javik a DLC character is mind blowing. He is still very much core to understanding the story and the general lore of ME.

The Thorian surviving is an interesting theory and I've wondered myself if it could be possible, after all Shepard only "kills" one nervous center. Unfortunately we may never know the truth. Maybe you should speak to Fai Dan, he will know more about it

My god Dan you are a treasure for keeping alive this beautiful franchise.

You missed where Tali herself responds to the "what does Tali's sweat smell like?". During the Citadel DLC, you can find her in the bathroom under the influence of alchohol and she responds, "it just smells like SWEAT, how can you even ask that"

I think the email reiterating the Thorian is dead was included more for the player to recall who Shiala was and connect it back to Zhu’s Hope. Gotta remember a lot of players probably didn’t play the trilogy back to back when ME3 released

There's no way TIM wasn't indoctrinated as soon as he came into contact with the Shanxi artifact, it gave him husk eyes and visions of reapers. Like he's not changed to full husk-cultists like the others but that second-hand dose of woowoo absolutely influenced him.

I think bioware wrote so many characters and plots, that the writers wouldn't remember everything when questioned on the spot. (Like with the aria thing)

On the Ardat-Yakshi/Banshees thing: In the codex it says active or latent predispositions to becoming Ardat-Yakshi. So what that means is any Asari who carries the gene, even if they aren't one themself. So there really could have only been 3 Ardat-Yakshi, but millions of Asari probably carry the trait latently. Samara is an example of a latent carrier of the trait. She mated with another latent Asari and their offspring was then active due to the dual latent parents. It all fits directly with the pureblood discrimination and the taboo of Asari breeding within their own species. It's because so many Asari are latent carriers. The monastery is likely from a time before they found other intelligent species they could mate with. It needed to be so large to accommodate the number of Ardat-Yakshi that would have existed at that time. Hope that clears up that whole thing for you. It really shows the depth of the Mass Effect lore.

As I recall, Samara didn’t say, “They’re ONLY 3 in existence.” I believe she just said, “And they’re 3 in existence today.” Which means she KNOWS they’re are at least three because she birthed them.

You know, about Aria on ME2, there is one more line where she says that "sometimes is better to disappear than be forced to kill someone", pay close attention to her voice when she says "someone", thats intentional, i think this is also conected and also fits with Wrex story, and Wrex is likely to be that "someone". So "Aleena" aka Aria, propared the fight in a way she could dissapear rather than fight Wrex to the death. It all fits. OH, OH, wait a minute, now i realise, this is why Aria want Shepard to come ALONE during her DLC... "i have objections to some of the company you keep".... she cant risk Wrex being onboard the Normady.

Fun fakt in the german version of the game the cerberus leader is only refered to as "der Unbekannte" witch roughly translates to "The Unknown Man". Kinde of funny when you ask NPC`s about "The Unknown Man" and they tell you they dont know the Unknown Man or anything about him.

I wish they'd given us the option to kill Rana in ME2. The way I play my Shepard he would have spared her in ME1 but in ME2 it would have been a "fool me once..." type of thing and he would have taken her out.

A very tiny possibility is that Cora Harper is related to The Illusive Man. It could just be surname's the same though.

Ever hear the Asari theory? Supposedly the Asari can manipulate brain waves to change how they look to other species, to make themselves look more attractive to specific species and nobody actually knows what they look like. I heard this theory pop up in ME 2 when a Salarian, Turian, and a Human are watching an Asari dancer and each of them found a unique attractive trait specific to their species in the dancer, as if each of them were individually seeing a completely different person.

If the trilogy story writer says Aria is Aleena, and some guy works on andromeda says no, I take the writer’s word every time.

@Big Dan Gaming: Speaking about the return of the Protheans, I have a suggestion for a topic I don't think you have covered yet. In the "Reckoning" multiplayer DLC for ME3 we get the "Awakened Collector Adept" with interesting lore. The Leviathans severed Harbringer's control over the Collectors they encountered, and these survivors went on to oppose the Reapers. It turned out that Javik wasn't the only Prothean "Avatar of Vengeance" out there!

After the final showdown with the Archon, when you return to the colony in Andromeda, there are some logs you can read from V. Tethras, telling the player how yours is a story worth telling, etc. I kind of gather that this Easter Egg isn't widely known or not remembered. I could believe that Both universes co-exist together.

I know right, ain't that very suspect for Shiala to turn green after a few years ? The one we meet on Illyum could just be one of her Thorian clones, plain and simple. 😅 About the Protheans' return, there's actually quite a few possibilities. Now that they've found Javik (a living specimen) and probably dozens of stasis pods containing dead ones, a fanatical group of Hanar geneticists could easily clone and recreate Protheans, then give them sacred prothean artifacts to rebuild their society and guide them as a subservient species. Since Protheans can learn things through touch and understand beacons without any issue, a new generation of cloned Prothean wouldn't even need living ones to teach them anything.

Regarding Fist's body, I wonder if maybe the dev was right about it being included but wrong about where it was placed. Specifically, it seems to me that given our encounter with Fist in ME2, the most likely place to stumble across Fist's body while creeping around back areas trying to retake a station from Cerberus would be on the Omega during Aria's quest, not on the Citadel during the coup attempt. Just a random thought in the wee hours of the night.

Samara said as far as she knows her daughters are the only ardat yakshi alive today, also it was stated that the Reapers can know if an Asari has the predisposition to become Ardat Yakshi so that they can trigger it before turning them into Banshees.

In regards to the Zaeed model, I recently watched the crown and was sure that I was looking at Zaeed. The actors name is Tobias Menzies, and when I saw him on screen I remember thinking “Huh, that guy looks a lot like Zaeed.” He would be my pick for a live action Zaeed.

Hey Big Dan, if you're looking, one small easter egg/reference that I don't know if anyone else has noticed happens with Nihlus on Eden Prime. Basically, Nihlus says his "I move faster on my own line" and then is betrayed by one of his own men(Saren). This is exactly what happens to Willem Dafoe in his role as Sgt Elias in the movie Platoon, so I think it's too much of a coincidence to not be a reference. Though like I said, never heard anyone mention it before lol.

10:39 to be fair Samara did say to her knowledge and considering Aria knows about them almost as if she has had some kind of experience dealing with one it definitely suggests that there’s a lot more than Samara’s kids running around.

I've had this theory that the Kett, the bad guys from Andromeda, are actually evolutionary decendants of the Protheans. They actually share a lot of similarities culturally, being an empire that assimilates other species (Javik mentioned something like that once, and while he never explicitly said so, it's possible that the genetic mutation the Kett use was part of that process), and it would absolutely make sense for the Protheans to have sent an expedition to Andromeda as well. 50.000 years of evolution might have caused them to look as they do now.

We also don't know the original homeworld of the Protheans. Also, there's the mystery of the Virtual Aliens that are mentioned to be a race that downloaded their consciousness to a virtual world in order to escape their home system from going supernova. The Galaxy Mod i believe added an interesting side quest called Ghosts of Antilin that give a deep dive on the Virtual Aliens, and to me, it would have made a perfect DLC in place of the very important lore DLCs like Leviathan and From Ashes

for aria being aleena, the guy who said no didn't work on me1-3 so his opinion is null void in my book, i think him saying no is just the response he was told to say if he was asked something that he didn't know about

Regarding Legion: the memories match what I'd pieced together as the likely reality. Whether they were or were not deep fakes, they supported information that I had gleaned from both sides throughout the trilogy.

About the Thorian, I firmly believe that it was implied that it is still alive and hid itself, recuperating. I assume, it did it because it's wary, not just of Sheperd, but also because of the Reaper threat. If the Leviathan themselves fled and hid from the Reapers, then it's safe to say that the Thorian is intelligent enough to understand its survival is under threat.

Bro I doubt the Andromreda writer even knew who Aleena was

This coincides perfectly with the recent conclusion of my 84th playthrough of the series

One weird "plothole" that is never explained is the Arrival DLC plot, where Shepard could be knocked out for 2 days on a station where everyone is indoctrinated, and yet never show any signs of indoctrination after an entire two days near object Rho, and that's AFTER seeing a vision directly from it! Not to mention how the sedatives used to keep them under, suddenly just stops working with no explanation... To me, this is still the weirdest part of 2s story, as it brings up the point, not of how Sheprad got indoctrinated, but how they could possibly NOT be indoctrinated after that long near object Rho with no mental protection or shielding! For how strange this plot is, it's one i have heard surprisingly few theories about...

Going back to the Inusannon, we do see one possible point of evidence of their presence (sort of) in the Omega DLC, Reeper Adjutant units, if you look at them, they do in some ways, look a bit like the Inusannon. What is interesting is that the Adjutant's spread via viral agents, which makes one wonder, what if the Inusannon did too, it also makes the virus that spread on the Omega station in Mass Effect 2, potentially more interesting.

Honestly the way to fix Legion for the LE is so simple, they just need to add in an option to start the research on the IFF to the research tab, keep the dialogue the same, but make it a tech tree upgrade, that way players can initiate the crew abduction whenever they’re ready to

In ME3 You can overhear a conversation between two Asari on the citadel. They talk about how AY’s are born from two Asaris mating and how they need to kill the rest of them off. So either the reapers bred more or there were actually a lot out there that Samara didn’t want to scare shep with

The simple, yet unspectacular reason for why Shiala tells you again about the Thorian´s demise in ME3: Not everybody played ME2, the meeting with Shiala in ME2 is quite irrelevant, more like a cameo and people may not remember it a few years down the line when playing ME3. It´s more a design decision to help the player remember who Shiala even is and less a hint to the Thorian surviving.

I cannot get enough of these deep dives into ME lore/theories. I click every single iceberg video haha, this was one of the better ones, so thank you for taking the time to put it together! Very enjoyable!

Awesome video, and absolutely love 1 hour deep dives! Would love to see some of these make a return in the next game.

4:40 Reegar is also funny "YOU GOT A GETH RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!!!"

I loved it when bioware took the „Tali’s sweat“ idea into the citadel dlc and solved this mystery once and for all 🤣

Another observation I came up with is that the adjutants from the omega dlc look like the inusannon, especially their faces as both have beard like tubes in their faces. Also, Cerberus were able to produce these things from a mysterious reaper virus which I think the reapers created it from harvesting the inusannon. I don't know but I thought I should share this

I started playing the mass effect saga two months ago by buying the legendary edition here in Brazil. Since then, this game became my top favorite rpg ever and I discovered your channel during my gameplays to answer some questions I’ve had and man… YOU ARE AMAZING WITH WHAT YOU DO!!! Keep up the good work big Dan! Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷

There is one thing I'm surprised no one ever paid attention to, what Morinth says during her confrontation with Samara, she says something very disturbing "I'm the genetic destiny of the Asari, But they are not ready to reveal this, so I must die" Notice that she doesn't say "They are not ready for this" or "They can't see this" No, she specifically says "They are not ready to reveal this" Later on the Ardat-Yakshi Monastery you find this Journal: _______________________________________ Jethra, I looked over this year's candidates for supervised visits to Thessia. I'm approving everyone but Yanis. She's impulsive, cunning, and worst of all, a romantic. Find me a worse combination to let outside our walls. (I find it suspicious she was even nominated: let's look into that, and pray it's not Yanis manipulating another infatuation.) It takes a great deal of time and effort to persuade Thessia's government to let our best students visit their own homeworld. Unless Yanis matures, she won't be among them. Matriarch Gallae ______________________________________ This could probably point out that the Asari government have plans for the Ardat-Yakshi and they are preparing them for something. If you think about it, The Justicars - while extremely powerful - are not reliable to do dirty work because their code prevents them from doing so, so on a political level, the Asari command can't rely on Justicars to do their dirty work. The Asari commandos while powerful are not similar to STG for Salarians or as the Specters to the Council. What if the Asari were planning to create their own modified super soldiers so they can do their bidding? it would make sense that since Morinth was on the run for so long that she had sources and contacts and knew something that others did not. And since she didn't trust anyone to reveal that information she chose to die with it.

You cut the more funny part of taking Legion to rescue Tali... Kal'Reegar saying "THERE IS A GETH RIGHT BEHIND YOU".

Regarding the moon of Thedas and the planet Klendagon, they are both just renderings of Mariner Valley, a real-life geological feature that exists on Mars.

I think the Banshee’s are created through pure blood Asari, since the codex mentions active or latent capabilities, and since all Ardat-Yakshi are pure blood Asari that might be the criteria for their creation.

I really love listening to icebergs being explained in background while I do something else. Especially when the creator speaks about it with real passion like you. Thanks for that and many other of your videos about my favorite franchise, keep it up!

23:12 That's probably because she wanted to be as forward with Shepard about the state of Zhu's Hope due to the calamity facing the galaxy. Like, being able to collectively work together as a unit tied by psychic connection is pretty powerful, but people would ask questions if you hid that fact. I always figured that she just wanted to be forward with Shepard due to the stakes. It's one of those times where you can't really lie with omission...I mean, the life of every last sentient being in the Galaxy was on the line.

Yeah, you convinced me on the Thorian. You have to realize that instead of killing the Thorian, maybe all you did was teach the Old Growth the value of a subtle, light touch, maybe even to the point of allowing the thralls to believe that they have free will and are just "really cooperative". After all, it is long lived enough to be able to afford to play the long game.

This is incredible, Big Dan! Thanks so much for all you do for the community! I'd love to see more videos like this!

Aria also says something along the lines of how it's sometimes better to run away rather than be forced to kill someone :')

I’d guess the Leviathans could be the new antagonists, but I think it’s more likely they’ll become a pariah species evading persecution by the survivors, as the creators - by extension - of the Reapers. I’d love to see an optional arc where you help Javik find all the remaining Prothean technology and bases; it’d be good to see more about the structure of their empire and I’d love it if completing the arc led to finding a hidden facility with surviving Protheans.

Hey Dan, Hey everyone! - I wanna admit a sidenote for the following topic, "The Indoctrination Theory": - First of all I would like to thank the creators, that they gave me another perspective, because in the end of Mass Effect 3 (beware Spoilers dear N7s ;)) I was a little upset too. - The Indoctrination Theory contains many... maaaannny things that are kind of conspiracy like and many of them are way too far away from reality in my oppinion. But some are amazing. Just amazing. - I would like to emphasize a few things. - 1.) There are SO MANY coincidences, I just can not believe when Bioware states the theory isn't true. I would personally act a little more conspiracy-like, to be honest, because the coincidences are so crazy. So unbelievable crazy, they just can't be coincidences and "accidentally writing". I mean c'mon^^. Iam sure they just say "this theory is not right" (but in their mind they finish the sentences with kind of "but 80% of it is" or something like that. - 2.) The Starchild is... no I have to start somewhere else. So if you're not into what the Theory contains, ähm try the following perspective: - Imagine that the Crucible Szene, where Shepard decides between Refusal or 3 differnet endings in 3 colors, is kind of a dream. Not a real dream but, it is in Shepards mind. - Now we can start. Houuu I like it so much to talk and write about that :D Allright here we go: 1st of all you have Shepard talking to the Starchild and a very large spot where Shepard is able to move. He can go straight forward to encounter the "green" symbiosis ending. He can go left, for the blue control ending and he can go right for the red destroy ending. - Now keep in mind what you do all the time when you talk to someone as Shepard. When you do, you have a dialogue wheel where you can investigate on the left, make a neutral answer on the right, the bottom is renegade and the top is paragon. Now remember the szene with the starchild. And try to "zoom out" and look at it from a perspective of a bird. You will the the classic Dialogue Wheel. - Now we have the question: Why is RED the renegade ending and blue (good) the paragon one? It is simple in the end. - Your goal is it, in the game, to stop the reapers and your only information is, that you CAN stop the reapers. You can probably destroy them, this is your goal. Since you have the opportunity to do so the indoctrination, that works on Shepard hits a critical spot. The Reapers are trying to indoctrinate you as a gamer. Its a brilliant move, from the developers, they break the 4th wall. When you choose to control, either symbiosis, you got fooled and indoctrinated, because the starchild is trying to convince you that everything is a good idea but the renegade option. And within the whole game all your "evil"/renegade choices are on the bootom right, from the dialogue wheel. So the reapers try to make Shepard think he does something cruel, something renegade and they deliver arguments only against this "red" ending. - So why is the Starchild a child actually. Well in the first scene, even in the trailers of ME3 you can see a small girl, or a small boy playing and fooling around and in the first Mission on earth you "see" the boy on various very strange locations, where noone else ever get a notice of that child. - The Indoctrination, or kind of hallunization begins when the game begins. The Starchild is noone less, then "all the childs shepard would not have rescued", its the child from the beginning. The Child from is dreams. Shepard dreams twice a dream where a forest with "oil shadows" appears and a boy is running away from him". When you remember the rachni Queen in Mass Effect 1, she talks about "oil Shadows" and a blurred view. This matches perfectly with Shepards dreams. - So he is in the middle of an Indoctrination. And the game suggest you, you managed it. You just made it. Problem solved. But. Sorry, but... but: There is only one right answer: Its Red. Renegade, the Destroy Ending unless you don't want to be indoctrinated. - In my oppinion this is a freakin' Masterpiece of Storytelling and I just gave you glimpse of what is all insde the whole Indoctrination Theory. Is lesser a theory. Its more a Gathering ... or collection of facts, you encounter in the trilogy. - Its Fact, that you use the dialogue wheel trough the whole 3 Games. Its Fact, that the child, Shepard sees in ME3, beginning, Anderson does not see, nor notice. Its Fact, that the Rachni talks about Oily Shadows and Shepard got similar dreams. Its Fact, that if you choose the Red Ending, you can get a breathing Chest Ending. Its Fact, that if you choose the Red Ending, Shepard straighten himself up when he decides to move to destroy it. Its Fact, that you have "Deus Ex: Vibes" in the last moments of the game. Never heard of that Options before. The Reapers are in panic mode, they have to stop you at all costs. - In My Oppionion Shepard just stands close to a console, and he is about to push "the one red button". But he can't, because something in his mind just tricks him not to do it. - My newest, personal theory is, that not even the Red ending "really" ends the war. It just ends the indoctrination and the war probably finds a slow end... but... however, this is a topic for another time. First of all I hope I could have give you some more insight within the very very very intersting Indoctrination Theory. :D - If you believe it ore not: I whish you a good time, saving your Galaxies, N7s ;) Cheers

Gotta say, Dan, I always learn something from your videos, even more than a decade since the trilogy ended. Thank you for delving into all this!

Fantastic video! Love your content! :) Very happy you found my video where I ask Mike Gamble about Aleena! The question had been driving me nuts for years! Hopefully the games address it someday so we eventually know for sure.

"Tali's sweat tastes good." "Support me so I can keep making this content." "Joker and the Illusive Man are Eskimo brothers" What a wild place to sandwich that plug 😂

Just realized that the Leviathans and the Rachni queen have the same eye design and overall some similar elements. Hmm... 🤔

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Dude, these are fantastic dives! Thanks for putting all of this together! 👊

I would highly recommend considering applying this approach to other series as well. I personally watched this entire video without checking the time, and it was incredibly entertaining. The time flew by

I do kind of hope the next ME game answers some of the questions left by Andromeda. There is an easy way to do so if they want: if the Milky Way species were able to repair the Relay Network, that means they can probably build new ones. A trans-Galactic Relay would be possible, though of course it'd require someone to make the long trip over so they could build the Relay for the Andromeda side of the pair network. But that'd absolutely be worth doing if they are serious about colonizing the other galaxy. And being attached to that other galaxy also gives the devs an opportunity to introduce a new big bad entity/faction to the Milky Way, since the Andromeda Galaxy outside the Heleus Cluster is basically wide open for the writing team to populate and utilize.

The dark energy plotline was much better then what we got

You know, i just played the Thorian mission on ME1 and there is a small detail, it seems to be heavily implied that Shiala was indoctrinated, she says that herself, she served with Benezia and Saren, and traveled onboard Soverign, maybe Shiala was able to break free for a moment to help Shepard like Benezia did, (and even Saren in the end if you can convince him) but we all know how that would end eventually. So the green one on ME2 cant be the real Shiala if thats the case.

I never even thought about not bringing Wrex along on the raid against Fist.

Cool video Dan! Always down to learn to fun facts about one of my favorite series! Though now I just wanna replay the whole trilogy.

While Legion does focus on saving his people, I don't think the intention of that scene is to deceive. 300 years of Quarian history made the Geth into the bad guys, so you aren't going to get an accurate account from them. So, from a storytelling perspective, how would you give an unbiased account?

"Techno-Space-Magic Reasons" is my new band name

As far as the Ardat-Yakshi thing I think it is more that they are created from regular Asari. The codex says the reapers select them from Asari with latent or active Ardat Yakshi genes. The Asari have made mating with other Asari taboo because the genes for an Ardat Yakshi are likely a recessive trait that is more likely to be passed on through 2 Asari rather than an Asari and an alien.

This is how I know I need to touch grass: I had only not known about 4 of these. A few notes: -you missed/didn't mention that there were datapads in the monastery with messages between other ardat yakshi residents, so we know for a fact there are others -it wasn't believed the angara were the only species in the GALAXY, just the Helius cluster Great vid! Hope you do more long form content!

Awesome vid dude! I'm always up for more videos like this 😊

I keep trying to watch this video but it gives me the urge to play Mass Effect every 10 minutes.

Dude how did you not mention the entire impetus for the indoctrination theory... Its because if you choose to destroy the Reapers, after the credits, a clip plays of Commander Shepard in the rubble at the base of the relay to the Citadel, where he takes a breath. It's clearly him, given the armor of the chest, and this clip only plays if you chose to destroy the Reapers. If you choose the other two options, ostensibly the Reapers gain indoctrination control over Shepard. That is the one reason the theory even exists. And I don't understand why they play that clip in game if its not true...

1) If that Virmire Survivor vs Liara thing happened, I would’ve always chosen the Virmire Survivor. 2) I like to think the events of the Dragon Age franchise happen in the same universe as ME, just very distantly in the past.

I think the Leviathans are smart enough to see “damn, they actually BEAT the Reapers” and given how there are only 3 of them…. I don’t think they’re making and moves anytime soon.

Wow this video was amazing man! Lots of things I didn’t know about the ME universe

10:30 The codex tells you EXACTLY how you ran into so many Banshees despite the three "active" Ardat Yhakshi. If they have an "active or latent" potential to become one? The Reapers can use them for the job. It is entirely possible that several Asari have the POTENTIAL to become Ardat Yhakshi but have not had the aberrant gene activate. And that number of Asari is far larger since active ones are often killed because they won't live in a gilded cage.

31:00 It's also possible that the Protheans might be hermaphroditic, like lilies or roses. I find it hard to believe that all aliens in the galaxy require 2 to tango, so to speak. And not all aliens have sexual binaries - the asari and the a hanar come to mind. Anyway, it's my headcanon that after the events of ME3, Javik takes it upon himself to repopulate the Prothean race, and self-produces a bunch of babies like a PlantSim in the Sims 2.

Side note on the creation of the Reapers: while hundreds of thousands of years ago is technically correct, it's closer to hundreds of millions in scale. The disabled reaper where the IFF mission plays is some 37 million years old.

I've never been so early! Love the videos Dan, especially deep dives like this one

Protheans could have done something akin to the Andromeda project, sent a ship with some of their people to another galaxy in hope that some would survive

I believe the most important line from Banshee codex is "active or latent" one. Active Ardat-Yakshi are like Samara's daughters, latent ones are the ones who carry their genes, but not AY themselves, like Samara. It is possible that latent AY were also encouraged to choose isolation in monastery. Considering the whole AY thing is asari equivalent of incest, it would be fair to assume that the more "pureblood", or "inbred", if you will, the asari gets, higher the chance of conceiving AY. It's a chance and not a certainty, as we know how Samara had three daughters, believing that this time result might be different. So she had, or at least believed that she could conceive a normal daughter, but no luck. But yeah, it's just a plot hole, after all, there's no definitive answer

Bro by far the best video you have ever made the length is perfect for a long car ride or just chilin on a lazy day these rpg are the best games and you giving so much effort and time to show their tiniest details is really awesome thanks for being you bro

Dan, This was a great deep dive! I've only JUST gotten into playing LE (I never played them when they first came out) and so I watched this while installing my 220-ish mods that make the game better (now that I've played it all the way through as Paragon and Renegade!) Thanks for the great vids and keep it up in 2024, bro!

My theory is that the Benefactor in Andromeda is actually the geth. The Initiative would require tons of credits, so much that only an AI could get it without drawing attention. The geth would be happy to work with Alec trying to establish a connection between organics and AI We know that Initiative was able to map Andromeda using geth technology, showing they were observing it. The geth are the only real group that could discover the Reaper threat and accept it before even Shepard did. We know the geth will return in Mass Effect 4, and likely in a big way. ME4 is likely post Destroy ME3. How'd they survive? They were in Andromeda. The weakest aspect is why kill Jien Garson? My thoughts are that the geth thought that the Initiative would be more open to AI, but they were still viewed as "murder bots", so they had to remove Garson before she revealed it and caused a panic or war.

On the Normandy, after a few conversations (which is easier to get to with the DLCs and the fact the game lets you play after the main story ends) Legion also interestingly references the dyson sphere that you see in ME3 as well.

Watched the whole thing and loved it! The tali sweat thing had to of been the most bizarre... lol.

Hey, I was just playing LE3 again and randomly decided to look at Shepard in the "Citadel tunne" - visible scars glowing. used Photomode to take a look at the scar, yellow glow within the red! Yellow is used by Harbinger. Sovereign used Red.

I hope we get a vorcha crewmate and elcor crewmate in the next game both perspectives would be great and maybe a biotic god volus And might as well give us a jelly fish too!

Eh, the one about Legion lying to Shepard about the past of the Geth and Quarians... Legion only withheld information, never presented false information before. To human minds that would seem a distinction without a difference, but to them would be a huge difference.

Hmm you are making the best video's about DO and ME so far from all RU-vidrs that I've seen. Yours video's are the only ones that i will always find time to watch. I Hope you will never stop doing them. Cheers

Thank you for your time and effort on this wonderful content.

Great video! For me Indoctrination Theory is the only way to make sense of the ending after all those years. And yes, it's a way of copium and I made my peace with that. Never forget Marauder Shields. Also the true ending..... Shepard arm coming out of the rubble... That's after all the ending sequence ON EARTH and not much timr after Harbinger beam.

Another thing that was not covered in this video if timestamps are anything to go by (have not yet watched the video, sorry) is the origin of the Adjutants on ME3 Omega DLC. Supposedly they were a species from one of the previous cycles repurposed by the Reapers. I always found that intriguing for some reason.

8:45 Samara states that "as far as I know" which means for all she knows there could be more but she only knows of 3

thanks for the nostalgia trip! dope vid!

You definitely misquoted Samara. She said there are only 3 that she knows of. Not as if it was a defining statement.

I just assumed the genetics necessary to produce an Ardat-Yakshi are recessive. Since it's mentioned that Ardat-Yakshi are only produced from an asari-asari pairing, it would made sense that this is one of the reasons why asari are encouraged to mate with other species. It could also be this latent gene that the Reapers enhance to produce Banshees; the Banshees aren't producted from actual Ardat-Yakshi, but from asari who carry the recessive gene for it.

Samara literally said "to my knowledge there are only 3 AY left" which implies she had no knowledge of the Monastery (later confirmed by Liara) Also, the Monastery was full of AYs, but most of them had been turned by Reapers (confirmed by Samara)

I just found out that Helena Blake is in mass effect 2 on omega.