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The Most OP Builds in Hades 2: Pan Daggers | Part 1 

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@blazesardonyx7557
@blazesardonyx7557 Месяц назад
can we get an op build guide for the grill
@thecactusman17
@thecactusman17 Месяц назад
Obviously it's a glowing coals build.
@RubberGamesHD
@RubberGamesHD Месяц назад
​@@thecactusman17and slow cooker
@thecactusman17
@thecactusman17 Месяц назад
@@RubberGamesHD Scalding Vapor isn't entirely out of the question either.
@R2-DTu
@R2-DTu Месяц назад
Will not include the sponge nerf.
@c0ded56
@c0ded56 Месяц назад
I’m only subscribed for when Haelian pivots into strictly grill content with roguelike footage playing in the bottom like Subway Surfers
@flyinghippocamp
@flyinghippocamp Месяц назад
I have a really weird tip for getting golden rule. If you take Ocean's Bounty *from a miniboss room* you can use The Artificer on the ash/psyche it drops to guarantee a second poseidon boon from the miniboss chamber.
@chsr357
@chsr357 Месяц назад
I knew my eyes didn't deceive me. I commented in chat about the Hecate clones having different torches, making the real one easier to see. I don't know if it was a bug, but Hecate's torches didn't have flames during the entire fight. This is the only time I've ever noticed this happening. This bothered me the rest of the day and made me wonder if I was just seeing things and making up nonsense. lol
@SadGhostie
@SadGhostie Месяц назад
I never noticed that! Good shout out on that!
@lx5350
@lx5350 Месяц назад
probably a bug, i checked haelian's earliest videos and it had flames
@Muzazabi
@Muzazabi Месяц назад
You can also identify her from the direction of her voice.
@chsr357
@chsr357 Месяц назад
@@Muzazabi I imagine that only works with headphones, right?
@Muzazabi
@Muzazabi Месяц назад
@@chsr357 yeah, there's some pretty useful audio cues you can get with headphones, you can hear where Cerberus emerges before using his area attack, where enemies are hidden in big rooms and above all else where the golden tree is located in mourning fields.
@WhatIfMessmerHadAChargeBlade
@WhatIfMessmerHadAChargeBlade Месяц назад
isn't it funny how the tiny weapons are usually the strongest
@coldfanta4963
@coldfanta4963 Месяц назад
Like how a gun is as deadly as a club
@wolofythepiratewolf2152
@wolofythepiratewolf2152 Месяц назад
I swear to Athena i adore your videos and it cheers me so up to watch them. Thank you for making awesome videos and never give up!
@Blu_Maryze
@Blu_Maryze Месяц назад
Thanks for the explanation!! I've never played a game like Hades before, so actually detailed explanations of how wording works in this game or what to consider is super informative My file is definitely not up to speed since I just got too Scylla and died www, but it's real nice to know where it can get to after enough time! Plus I'm a fan of "flawed" runs like these where it's easier to know what parts you can get creative with without it being peak So, thanks for the time!!
@mini3mayhem
@mini3mayhem Месяц назад
My favorite weapon in the first game was the bow and the whole thing of multiple honing arrows really impacted how I approach a fight, so the blades in this game are the closest I’ve gotten to being able to use the bow again which is fun
@FOWisgood
@FOWisgood Месяц назад
If I remember correctly, Lim and Oros is a bit weird in that the omega part of the omega special is only summoning the knives and each knife damage is considered a normal special no matter where the knives came from. You can kinda see that in the damage charts. Also think flick knives count as a normal special I think in this case Hearth gain would have also been really good here. Edit: Oh I guess they fixed it? It was definitely like that in patch 2
@spacenai4461
@spacenai4461 Месяц назад
Can confirm they fix it.
@NbleSavage
@NbleSavage Месяц назад
LOVE this idea for a series on OP builds!
@skeletongary2161
@skeletongary2161 Месяц назад
Love this video format Love talking shop about hades and really getting into the nitty gritty Without worrying about being quick about it
@ryaaannnn
@ryaaannnn Месяц назад
maybe you're going to get to it in this, but i noticed for aspect of pan on thedaggers, if you get a special boon that increases the omega magick spent to do the omega, you also get more daggers thrown
@22duckys
@22duckys Месяц назад
I honestly thought you were saying “haelian mistake” for the longest time. It wasn’t until you said “tally a mistake, yup chat, tally another one” that I understood 😂
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 Месяц назад
Got my first Chronos win using pan dagger + Poseidon on special.
@RobRoseKnows
@RobRoseKnows Месяц назад
Aspect of Pan was my first Chronos win!
@nogai2296
@nogai2296 Месяц назад
Btw if anyone is playing on computer I find it beneficial to bind cast to an extra mouse button because when it is defaultly bound to Q it’s hard to move and cast at the same time which really affects builds like this
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
I'm 80% Certain that Hades II is only on Computer at the moment. Unless Microsoft/Sony has an Early Access Program I don't know about. 😱
@nogai2296
@nogai2296 Месяц назад
@@lookalike4805 you can still play with a controller right?
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
@@nogai2296 I play all my Games with a Controller. 👀
@nogai2296
@nogai2296 Месяц назад
@@lookalike4805 sorry in my original message I meant mouse and keyboard because I don’t know the buttons for controller but the mouse and keyboard ones are awkward
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
@@nogai2296 oh I see now... 🤓
@Keiichi4444
@Keiichi4444 Месяц назад
About cast during special. I’ve remapped the cast button to L1 (LB) its really better imho. Try it
@Razarex
@Razarex Месяц назад
Chat remembers you saying Spiral Knives wasn't good in an earlier video
@Noteturtle90
@Noteturtle90 Месяц назад
I love the pandags w/ posideon!
@Keiichi4444
@Keiichi4444 Месяц назад
Would love to see a video for the best aspect/build for each weapon to beat 32 fear. I’ve done scull, axe and staff, but still struggling with torches snd daggers
@Keiichi4444
@Keiichi4444 Месяц назад
Nvm just done 32 on pan)
@666rohith
@666rohith Месяц назад
i think concave stone should impact chaos boon options .. double pain for double boon sounds great !
@zachx333
@zachx333 Месяц назад
This build with the old scorch boon that explodes at 300 and scorch special was my favorite. But they removed it recently I think. Daggers are my favorite anyways 😍 great run!
@ruxbon
@ruxbon Месяц назад
that boon is now a duo boon of demeter/hestia in case you still wanna play something similar to your favorite build
@Kohcta
@Kohcta Месяц назад
I stopped going to daddy after patch 3. it seems that they dropped extra room possibility, so there even hypothetically nothing good to be find with him.
@minikyloreniscracked2797
@minikyloreniscracked2797 Месяц назад
İ have a build that two-shots and even one shots chronos. İt uses aspect of artemis, flutter strike ( heroic preferably), explosive ambush, escalating ambush, riposte and any decent magic regen. The only thing you need to do is to level flutter strike to 200% percent which is level 4 or 5. You can get reduced magic with chaos or plus attack damage, doesnt really matter.
@Haelian
@Haelian Месяц назад
Got a few videos out there basically using this already.
@TheFunkyFrogwastaken
@TheFunkyFrogwastaken Месяц назад
Maybe that description in Golden Rule means that you only get the +10% every 100 gold. Not a +1% every 10 gold You need to hit 100 gold to get a buff
@Haelian
@Haelian Месяц назад
We looked at the code, it's per 10 gold.
@VoermanIdiot
@VoermanIdiot Месяц назад
Haelian made a video that can be subject to change, expect a patch within 2 hours.
@Kryptic77x
@Kryptic77x Месяц назад
I think youre right either the codex is wrong or the website ive been looking at is wrong. either way, the website says you need either geyser ring, breaker sprint, or fluid gain as well to be offered golden rule
@virtualkong9488
@virtualkong9488 Месяц назад
I played aspect of pan like once and i thought its a shitty aspect but after this video i think i should play with it more.Great video btw 🤘🤘🤘
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
I had the Same experience due to getting unlucky with Boons 👀
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock Месяц назад
12:50 for this run the cat was technically better because you ended up with 2 gods that have water infusions and none with air infusions. that's pretty much it imo
@hearyoume9004
@hearyoume9004 Месяц назад
3:26 I just changed the Cast button to L2 so I can just spam it while doing anything else
@MrBoborawr09
@MrBoborawr09 Месяц назад
My 1st pan run I got the 150% poseidon legendary and both good hammers.
@bigloquat
@bigloquat Месяц назад
Literally me trying for Golden Rule XD
@Evbot2
@Evbot2 Месяц назад
is this what you'd recommend for 32 fear? i'm having a lot of difficulty getting up there
@patty201191
@patty201191 Месяц назад
After watching this video I did a Pan run and got epic Hera special, hook knives, spiral knives, and 3k golden rule. One shot/phase on chronos. 😂
@dinostorion
@dinostorion Месяц назад
Also forgot that the chaos boon boosted special damage a ton
@PhilipAlexanderHassialis
@PhilipAlexanderHassialis Месяц назад
This exact video is why I stopped playing Pan's knives - I feel like stealing candy from a baby. That being said, WHERE IS THE NEXT PART OF THE GRILL SAGA? Also also, where is the secondary IRL cooking channel "Haelian Grill Tips"?
Месяц назад
43:02 since you have aimed the video at people who are in need of help it is safe to assume that they don't have as many rolls as you, so not getting everything is actually helpful to see that it isn't the end of the word and the damage is still there if just one thing doesn't work out. How important is it to have the aspect upgraded for the build? (Again, because players who need theese videos probably don't have the aspects at a high level if they haven't downloaded a save file where everything is maxed out)
@Haelian
@Haelian Месяц назад
The more upgraded the better obviously, but omega special-ing everywhere is still quite strong no matter what if you take the right hammers.
@danmelhado
@danmelhado Месяц назад
Maybe the Chaos damage boon kind of jinx the Duo? 🤔
@bstnicky
@bstnicky Месяц назад
great video
@HeyLuke
@HeyLuke Месяц назад
Does the Poseidon special boon proc on the return damage of Hook Knives?
@alpoltav
@alpoltav Месяц назад
no
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
01:00 That's something that's always Irritated me in Hades 1 and I was hoping it would Change in Hades II. 😤 Boons should Adapt to your Weapon's DPS. 🤔
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
27:32 Actually Eco can Double your Hammer in the 3rd Chamber if you picked it up in the 1st Chamber... How ? Easy... Just pick up an *Onion* in the 2nd Chamber 😂 Echo can't double Onions so she goes back to whatever you had before the Onion. 🤓
@bobanobahoba1642
@bobanobahoba1642 Месяц назад
20:30 i don't get what happened here, why is double up not ideal, what does concave stone do, why is getting a duo prereq bad
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
There's nothing wrong with *Double Up* ... The problem with *Concave Stone* here is one of the Boon's from Poseidon was going to Replace *Smolder Ring* which was a Duo Requirement.... Having the Keep Sake on had a 50/50 Chance of taking that Boon instead of something harmless. I've had my Builds ruined like this numerous times before. 🥺
@TheBitingBat
@TheBitingBat Месяц назад
We literally can't lose chat
@RubberGamesHD
@RubberGamesHD Месяц назад
HAHA YES
@stitchfruit3538
@stitchfruit3538 Месяц назад
unrelated but i hope they change death back, it sucks. nearly no build goes for more than 1 omega/or even dmg type, maybe momus could use it but even with momus i find myself just putting most of my focus on omega attack + something like smolder ring+gale force for origination. anyway bring the crit chance back ;-;
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
What would be the Point now that many of the Boons are much Stronger now ? 🤔
@ruxbon
@ruxbon Месяц назад
but why, tho? old Death meant you dealt 10% more dmg, on average, sure it's for basically everything but that meant small hits were also taken into account which could average on even less dmg gained... and even then, there often were better card options, imo. oh, you forgot aspect of Persephone, btw, Death is almost perfect for it and sure, not every other aspect directly benefit from using 2 different omegas, but there are always omega casts as a last resort, they do quite a good chunk of damage even if you don't build heavily into them and the possibility to crit makes them worth it. if you use it perfectly it's a 30% dmg increase, on average, but it's still kinda situational, I'd say there are still better cards depending on your build goal
@stitchfruit3538
@stitchfruit3538 Месяц назад
@@ruxbon with old death, you would generally want it on when doing omega focused builds, rn im swapping for artificer because its just better imo. and your point about omega casts i already kinda adressed, i personally like using non omega casts such as smolder ring+gale force because its insane dps, utility, furies and origination all in one. and ignoring furies is losing 30% dmg so its not worth to do i feel again, its just my opinion. i also say that because apart from demeter, on all aspects it makes you think about an extra thing, which imo arcana cards generally dont. apart from origination and furies (which can be solved by a single normal cast both at once)
@ruxbon
@ruxbon Месяц назад
@@stitchfruit3538 I don't understand the argument about the old card being desirable for omega focused builds if the current one works exclusively for omegas, except that now it incentivizes you to use more than just one type of them you can still use the omega cast when using smolder ring + gale force, they're not mutually exclusive, you still get their dps, the furies, origination, with the addition of damage in the end of it, at the cost of 15 magick and maybe a second or so of channeling. sure, you might not be able to use it between every omega attack or special, so your omegas might not benefit all the time, but the odds are technically better and more impactful and I'm almost sure you can crit more than once if the ability you're using hits multiple times, but I don't rly pay attention to that so I might be wrong about it I get that it's not as "free" as before, but I don't think that card was that strong, it was barely ever worth it, tho that's just my opinion, as well. and I'm only discussing bc it's good to talk abt the game, it's okay if you disagree with me
@Haelian
@Haelian Месяц назад
I find myself not really taking it any more. Kind of got a lot of questions about how it works.
@countjunk6465
@countjunk6465 Месяц назад
LETSGOOO
@Lysair88
@Lysair88 Месяц назад
How about a aspect of Pan with hephaistos Special in epic and then pomed to reduce the cool down ? 🤔
@HealRD
@HealRD Месяц назад
Unfortunately, Blast doesn't activate with every hit count like Poseidon. 2 sec Blast (plus Hestia duo) works better with Heartthrob proc/Room Temperature builds.
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
That and I think That Boon is bugged because I had a Run that didn't let me Pom it even once after like 12 Poms... I only had 4 Boons so either my RNG was super bad or that Boon was Bugged for sure. 🤯
@HealRD
@HealRD Месяц назад
​@@lookalike4805 It's not bugged. Attack/Special Heph pom are fixed at 2 seconds cooldown, regardless of its tier. Once it reaches the 2 seconds limit, it won't show in pom. Ideally, you should aim for Heroic (with a bit of luck and Heph or Narcissus keepsake), as it only needs to be upgraded to level 4 for maximum efficiency.
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
@@HealRD You misunderstood my Response.... Mine was at 16 Seconds and i was never given a Chance to Pom it even Once. I failed that Run because of that.... 🤔
@fishsticks6611
@fishsticks6611 Месяц назад
@@Lysair88 I'd rather play a Smithy Sprint run ngl
@monnidomhei3649
@monnidomhei3649 Месяц назад
pog
@epicazeroth
@epicazeroth Месяц назад
Flat damage stacking enjoyers unite
@JuanitO_o
@JuanitO_o Месяц назад
so no more aphrodite with this build?
@Haelian
@Haelian Месяц назад
With Pan? Don't think Aphro was ever the choice imo.
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock Месяц назад
why would dropping a cast while charging the special hurt your fingers? one is q the other is right click
@spyrothegc
@spyrothegc Месяц назад
controller
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
He uses a Controller 👀
@dodang_9147
@dodang_9147 Месяц назад
i prefer hestia over poseidon.
@stepoichi
@stepoichi Месяц назад
ran out of rolls in one go? it do be like that most of the time 😂
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
It's because it 90% of time 2 out of the three options you Tried to Roll just Come back.... This is why I never bothered with *Fated Authority* in Hades 1 and why I don't have *Change of Fate* Arcana in Hades II. Waste of Grasp. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Shriv3n
@Shriv3n Месяц назад
first
@dkznikolaj7013
@dkznikolaj7013 Месяц назад
What's the best build to get me a girlfriend?
@digmas6200
@digmas6200 Месяц назад
2 views in 1 second fell off
@chunkylover5367
@chunkylover5367 Месяц назад
I just dont get this game. Lvl 32 heat is so obnoxious. They dont give you enough time to beat stages with 5 mins, and every weapon just feels so anemic... I know the game is not finished; it's gonna be a year, but it's just not doing it for me. The card system, fear levels, the heavy reliance on magic that doesnt regen unless you have 5 grasp for the card or a boon (which also takes away magic if you're using vow of arrongance). Ugh. Just not fun.
@keystonelyte
@keystonelyte Месяц назад
This is going to sound patronizing. Oh, well. You're playing the game wrong, chief.
@Weraptor
@Weraptor Месяц назад
git gud
@ricardorodriguez8497
@ricardorodriguez8497 Месяц назад
That's how I feel about Elden Ring. I just don't get it, so it's a me problem ya know? Same deal. A perspective change would help but I just don't care enough to try lol
@HealRD
@HealRD Месяц назад
You need to wrap your head around it for a bit and not approach it exactly as with Hades 1.
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Месяц назад
Do what I did.... Just Don't Become Night's Champion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've run into this Situation in multiple Games before so eventually I decided to just not bother. I think *Hollow Knight* was the last Game that convinced me that you just shouldn't do something if it's not Fun... I mean... It's called *PATH OF PAIN* for a Reason. 😳
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