This is the record which will never be broken: Johnny Vander Meer's Two Consecutive No-Hitters. A pitcher would need to pitch three consecutive no hitters to break this record
@@samuelmoulds1016 you haven’t seen two yet let alone three . This is the one record that will never be broken . One good reason ,today’s pitchers are pussys .
@@blu3collar949 Your talking about high school .what’s that got to do with anything? There’s been hundreds of kids that look like the Hall of Fame will never hold them and they wind up in the crapper . The pressure gets greater and greater as you climb the ladder . This kid from Texas hopefully got a good education and went on to live a normal life .
I would put Nolan Ryan's 7 career no hitters in the class of unbreakable records, as pitchers getting complete games are rare enough. Others include Ty Cobb's career batting average and Cal Ripken's consecutive games played.
I would agree because Ryan is the best ball player ever IMO, but one day an absolute savage could come in and throw multiple no-nos over several seasons. Most if not all of the records on this list are things you can only accomplish over a long career while staying healthy just about the entire time.
I disagree. 7 no-hitters are probably one of the easier ones to break. Verlander has 3 which makes him tied for third place all-time. Which is pretty good in the context of these other records. No-hitters are up even with shutouts down.
@@deathmetal11111 Easier? IMO Verlander is great just for having 3, but in no way does that mean getting twice as many plus one is "easy"... I just don't see it, as pitchers simply don't pitch as many innings and games as Ryan did in his day... well, I'll say this.... I'm 60, and no way in hell is that getting broken in my life-time... it would take a lot of luck too as both Ryan and the great Bob Feller had 12 one-hitters!
He replaced Lou Gehrig for that record. People always for decades said the same thing that you did about Ripken that Gehrig's consecutive game streak would NEVER be broken. They were wrong.
@Erich Von Manstein OBP is determined from both at bats and plate appearances. Also the specific outcomes of each. Look up the formula used. It’s “approximately” equal to Times on Base/Plate Appearances.
@@erichvonmanstein6876 what the frick are you talking about? Im saying according to his OBP, Hes getting On-base almost 50% of the time. youre not making since.
Well, here's one record that will never be broken. Warren Spahn pitched 20 or more complete games for 13 straight seasons, and hardly anyone ever speaks of it.
different era... today starting pitchers rarely see the 7th inning for one reason or another. I don't remember the last time I saw a complete game. lotta pitchers have a shutout when they retire.. only to have the game lost by the pen. those kindsa things can get pretty depressing but it happens quite often with the way the game is played today.
Spahn was such a workhorse - 363 wins, a 20 game winner for 12 seasons, 382 complete games! Today's pitchers are wimps compared to the guy's of yesteryear. Today's pitchers are programmed to go 7 innings or 100 pitches, (whichever comes first), which means they psychologically start getting tired going into the 6th inning.
Ty Cobb's career batting average will also probably never be broken (.366). 7 MVP's by Barry Bonds seems pretty difficult. Ted Williams career OBP (.482) seems unbreakable; only 4 players who've played over the last 60 years have even cracked the top 25.
Yeah but those are rate stats. Some hot shot rookie could conceivably put up those numbers for a couple of years, get to the minimum required plate appearances to count their career rate numbers then suffer a career ending injury. No one's pitching 700 CG.
@@MrVegasdeuce even with complete games, the second most is 4 which was from the 60s. Verlander only has 3, he is a work horse of a pitcher who's done this a long time. 39 years old. Even with combined no-hitters becoming a thing, it no one's gonna pass it if you include them.
There are so many solo home runs today and such low batting averages, Wilson's record seems safe. The Yankees have spent the past 5 years living on solo home runs.
@@edwardcook2973 They added 1 RBI to his record back about 20 years ago. Some sporting reporter noticed an error in one of the games box scores. For years it was 190 though.
Two records that Ted Williams also holds which likely will never be broken. In 1949, he reached base in 84 consecutive games. In 1957, he reached base in 16 straight plate appearances. I think we will likely see Dimmagio's 56 game hitting streak broken before either of these records are broken.
Agreed. BTW, the day the Pete Rose's streak was broken he didn't see a single strike the entire game. The opposing team had announced in advance that they were going to stop the streak, so they just never gave him a hittable pitch.
I could see the 16 straight appearances at some point. Not the 84 games though. Baseball is weird enough that Yermin Mercedes a guy who didn’t make it through his rookie year started his career with 8.
@@a.grimes4202Cy Young’s career decision record is 511-315… He was the pitcher of record 826 times. Nolan Ryan is in 3rd in all time losses (324-292), and the only one in the top 4 who was not born in the 1800s. But pitching 27 seasons, and only really getting hurt to end his career allowed him to pitch a long time… He also leads the MLB in career walks with 2,795, leading second place by over 900 (Steve Carlton).
One of my feelings, not really a thought, is sadness at the fact that we may never see another Game 7 complete game shutout again. The combined no-hitter by the Astros made me yearn for Jack Morris in '91 spinning all those masterful innings. It's hard to imagine a manager letting his starting pitcher finish a game now, let alone let him keep going into extras with his shutout. RIP the fantastic baseball of my 80s youth. :(
I watched that Twins game and Morris was amazing but time goes on. People who watched before us said the same thing about our era. Era's should be more appreciated than argued about in my opinion.
@@andrem.thomas332 I agree. I wish I was alive for many of baseball's eras. The only one I've lived through that I didn't really enjoy was the peak steroids era. This current one is alright, but I used to pitch, so I'm biased because I enjoy starting pitchers dominating and going deep into games.
@@johnnyeaton Bro I'm 44 and raised in Oakland. I remember watching Dave Stewart win 20 games a year repeatedly. If I'm not mistaken it was Glavine pitching against Morris that game 7. I'm just trying my best to not become the old guy always bringing up his era because I hated those guys.
@@christopherkimber7679 I'm old enough to remember when Gehrig's record was routinely called "unbreakable". Heck, it was still being called unbreakable back when Ripkin passed Everett Scott's then 2nd place mark.
To break Ripken's record, would take 16 full 162-game seasons, with another 41 games on top of THAT. So, someone would need to play over a decade and a half, with no injuries, no suspensions, probably no midseason trades, no extended strikes or lockouts, and not even a single DNP-CD. GOOD. LUCK. With that.
Nolan Ryan - 7 No-hitters Joe Dimaggio - 56-game hitting streak Rennie Stennett - 7 hits in a 9-inning game Ty Cobb - 54 steals of Home Cal Ripken, Jr - 2632 Consecutive games played
On May 1, 1920 the Braves and Robins played at Boston in front of a crowd of 2,000 spectators. Joe Oeschger started for the Braves, and Leon Cadore started for the Robins. The game was eventually ruled a tie after 26 innings because of darkness. Oescheger only gave up 9 hits the entire game, while Cadore allowed 15. Both pitchers pitched the entire game, that will never happen again.
@@The_Loathsome what's hilariously horrible is that, while this is an extreme, Mansfield's bad enough to attempt something insane! I enjoy a faster paced game. But, c'mon! I hate the strategy taken out of being able to switch pitchers, pitching coaches calling infield meetings. Like, I get wanting to not change a pitcher every batter, but always allow it once per inning where a guy can be pulled after 1 batter THEN make the subsequent pitchers face at least 2.
@Jason Schwartz... I used to love watching super old black & white baseball games. As soon as the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, hes winding up to throw again.. It was wayyy faster paced back then
@@generalbucknaked3080 yeah. I played pro ball for a couple of years. I'm 45 so it was a while ago lol. I hope that the pitch clock does it's job... Switching pitchers should be allowed regardless of batters faced. (I also say this as a guy who spent my first season and a half as a utility guy...sooo, I'm all about getting matchups and pinch hitters lol). But, yeah, the older games had a great pace to them. Some of it was because of pitcher dominance at one point. But, also because batters could HIT. As in, a lot fewer deep counts because they made better contact... Not sure l striking out to sell out for the homer. And, yeah, the pitchers definitely didn't waste time... Nor did the batters.
Since you had Pete Rose on there think about this: 4256 hits are crazy right? But someone one of these days will break that record compared to another record he has. At least 500 career starts at 5 different positions ( 1B, 2B, 3B, RF, and LF.) It will never be broken because players just aren't versatile like that anymore
tell you what that guy was a helluva player. he was a "slapstick" hitter. just get the ball over the first baseman's head! I used to watch him he hardly ever made an attempt to take a huge cut at anything. I mean when Bonds walked up there everybody KNEW he meant business. the pitcher (no matter who he was) was gonna get a hitting lesson. but not Rose. these guys were both great hitters.. but for entirely different reasons.
I love the thing rose said when asked should he be in the Hall of Fame, he said a player could hit 200 hits for 20 years and still be hundreds short of his record
My candidate for an unbreakable record is Phil Knell's 54 hit batters in 1891. You know he had to have had a lot of near misses too. Nowadays, if any pitcher hit that many batters guys would be charging the mound right and left. Poor Phil wouldn't survive the season. He'd be beaten to a pulp.
@@GeraldM_inNC Not so much softer as just made of worse material. There were also way, WAY fewer ball substitutions, so that by the end of the game they were usually playing with something resembling a hackysack.
Plus pitchers could legally doctor the ball so much it made it a lot more unpredictable. Balls were cut with razor blades, substances put on them, scuffed, sand papered, shoe polished. Catchers really had to be sharp as they often couldn't predict where the damn thing would end up.
Listening to this and trying to comprehend how these guys did this is just absolutely mind boggling. 7,000 innings and over 500 wins is just ridiculous to think about in the majors. Still am mind blown while writing this! Need more content like this!
@@stephenconnors7380 We don't know. Many in the old days rubbed dirt on it and played through many injuries. Today, they get a tweak and they go on the disabled list.
Satchel Page made Cy Young look like a short reliever in today's game. Dude basically could throw all day every day when he was young, and look like Nolan Ryan doing it.
@@n9wffwhoa, they really did that and rubbed dirt on their arms and it worked?! Wow. I'm speechless. I always wondered how they pitched so many times.
how about connie mack's managerial records . he has managed the most games [7,755] ,wins [3,731] , loses [3,948] , and he managed 1 team for 50 seasons . plus he's the only manager to wear a suit .
Watch the movie "42", Burt Shotten in 1947 wore a suit while managing the Dodgers after Leo Durocher was suspended for the season. Just happened to be Jackie Robinson's rookie year in the bigs for Brooklyn.
I didn't know Eddie Collins laid down 512 bunts. That's staggering! I know it was the Dead Ball Era and teams had to scratch for runs - but man! Collins was a good hitter and to take his bat away that many times - astounding.
Love your channel! Never been a big stats guy, just loved playing and watching as a kid. Content like yours and trying to keep up with my son's stats, makes it a lot more interesting. Long live Baseball!
That one is fascinating. I remember when Jimmy Rollins of the Phillies got to 30-something games straight with a base hit, I was excited but he fell way short
Statistically this one will be broken, someday. As will Ted Williams' 84 consecutive games reaching base streak. It may take 100 years but the offensive game still plays enough like it did in the 40s for both records to fall. Just my opinion but it is the pitching records that are safer, without a paradigm shift.
Cal Ripken's consecutive game streak is good for eternity as well. That requires teams to participate in the process and they just won't do that; they won't let a player go that long without a day off and they'll cut the streak down before it ever even reaches 2 seasons worth.
Good video. I like the methodology. Surprised that Nolan Ryan's 2,795 Walks is not on the list. Only 2 pitchers have passed 100 BB in season in the past 10 full years and no active pitcher even has 900 walks. I would think it would take someone 30+ years of leading the league to catch that one too.
A lot of that is modern hitters having much higher strike out rates compared to older players. They just all swing at so many bad pitches. Some of that is due to guys throwing harder forcing you to make a decision faster but a lot is due to bad plate discipline.
@@donpietruk1517a lot better pitching these days too. The average pitcher seems like has 5 different pitches in their arsenal, and that all have different variations of each other. Even just twenty years ago, average pitcher probably had like 3.
One record that seems breakable but I don't think ever will be broken is Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs in a season. The closest anyone has come in the last 90 years is Manny Ramirez in 1999 with 165, and he's #14 on the list. Everyone ahead of him was before 1938. It's probably a similar issue related to pitching; having to face fresh pitchers every few innings means fewer RBIs.
Since this video came out before the 2023 rule changes, we have seen a 50+ steal season (and 60+ and 70+), but even with that, I think that Rickey Henderson's single season and career records (especially the career one) are still safe. Rickey had an ungodly combination of speed, reflexes, and game sense plus durability and longevity.
Harry Chiti will almost certainly be the only major league player who got traded for himself. He was traded for a player to be named and eventually, he was the player to be named and thus sent back to his original team. Mariano Riveras ERA+ minimum 1,000 IP is probably untouchable or at least close to it.
And both were hit off the same pitcher. That accomplishment will never be tied, let alone broken. For someone to break it, the minimum batters to come to the plate in the inning would be 22. That is never going to happen.
Tatis even hit both grand slams against Chan Ho Park in that inning. He became the second pitcher to allow two grand slams in one inning, joining Whoa Bill Phillips (1890) in the record books.
I feel like 457 total bases in a single season by babe Ruth in 1921 will never be broken even when Barry bonds had 73 home runs in 2001 he was still 46 total base away
Young played during a time when baseball players came from lower class jobs, such as farmers. They were not professional star athletes like today. He probably would not last 2 innings in a modern era game of today, against real talented players.
If you check the records at Cooperstown, you'll find that my ex brother- in- law holds the record for the youngest starting pitcher to start a major league baseball game. His name was Jim Derrington. He was 16 years old when he started several games for the Chicago White Sox in the mid 1950's. He signed a bonus contract out of South Gate high school in So Calif. In those days if you signed for a bonus, the parent club had to put you on the Major league team for the first month of your career, before being sent to the minors. The way things are done today, this record will never be broken.
Amazing video, the only thing i could say negatively is that you made it seem as if the change in pitching is more important than the workhorse nature of cy young and walter johnson. nolan ryan. three of the greatest workhorses EVER. will never be replicated. Your point was articulated very clearly but i didnt get the impression that you were impressed by walter johnson and cy young, and everybody should be.. amazing video
These vids are like drugs to me. Good stuff! I would've been interested to see what the list would look like if you just grouped all the dead ball era pitching records into the #1 spot, and then went all the way to #10.
Pete rose was a master of hitting on that old concrete type astroturf. He'd chop down at the ball for this giant bounce that he could beat out an infield hit. Can't do that on today's turf.
Great video and Great conversation about some of these records are not going to be broken. Cal Ripken Iron man streak, Joe Dimaggio 56 hitting streak, Ted Williams hitting 400. Before all star break
Randy Johnson came closer to Ryan's strikeout total than I thought. That's probably a reachable record, especially in a strikeout or homerun gun that baseball has devolved into. Ricky Henderson is safe as Vince Coleman retired a long time ago and no one else even considers stealing a base anymore.
@@brandonneumann5294 Good point. Yes, that is a collective philosophy that I wish the game would ditch real soon. They think they are saving arms, but it seems like pitchers are getting injurned as much or more than they used to while being pulled from games earlier and earlier. I've heard that the full time work out regiments are overstraining these guy's physiologies. The old timers would regularly throw complete games and win 25 plus games a season, but they didn't have time to work out all year long as they had to get regular jobs in the off season to suppliment a frugal baseball salary. They just got in shape real quick in spring training and that was it. Also, I think the old timers played with heart and love for the game. Players today play for the payday and not much else.
By the end of Ripkins chase it had become a circus side show. He hurt his career and team by refusing to rest. Look at his BP and obp toward the end of the streak. If his dad wasn't the manager he would have been sat down.
Another one: The 1991 Brewers went from 43-60 to 83-79; 17 games under .500 to an outright winning record, the most ever in the course of a single season. Nowadays if a team was 17 games under .500, they’d probably consider tanking, and have nothing to play for the rest of the season.
I have an OOTP challenge coming up where I started with the Angels expansion in 1961 and tried to set as many career records by 2022. Should have that coming out in the next two weeks.
@@maldrinjr9629 Last out in the 4th inning, yes (although you have to have them pitch a full inning or the game will award the win to another reliever).
Well, I hear they will start using robot umps call balls and strikes next year. If R2D2 breaks the glass ceiling against robots, maybe cyborgs are next.
Cal Ripkins's games started streak is never getting broken. TBH, Ripkin probably shouldn't even have the record in the first place. I think there was a point where he just went out there to keep the streak alive.
You are correct. His career batting average suffered because he would not rest himself. During the streak his average over a 100 game period was only .135. His dad was his manager and could of sat him down but didn't.
For the stolen bases thing, I honestly believe there are people faster than Rickey in todays baseball, but they don’t have the acceleration that he had, he could go from 0% to 100% instantly and that’s something no one has ever seen befor
I'd say that the problem is because Blacks have abandoned baseball. Who were the stolen base leaders from the 1950s through the 1980? Overwhelmingly Black.
@@GeraldM_inNC well Rickey lead the league through the 2000s. So I guess your black statement needs to at least go until then. The game has changed entirely though. Wouldn't matter if it was nothing but Jamaicans base stealing is dead.
Micky Mantle was actually the fastest player in the game before his legs gave out. He could go from home to first in just under 3 seconds (2.9 secs per 90 feet). Ralph Garr is second on the list (3.06 per 90 feet).
Wow I can’t believe u didn’t include Johnny Vandemeer he pitched 2 consecutive no hitters !! So to break the record a pitcher would have to pitch 3 no hitters in a row !! Trust it ain’t ever happening !!
I've always wanted to run a Coke style simulation with having a tandem of pitchers split starts and relief appearances with each guy trying to go 3 innings before giving over to the bullpen. The idea being that the batters would rarely see the pitcher more than once a game. If the guys go go on 2 days rest, they'd each get 27 starts and 27 relief appearances where they'd pitch the 4-6th innings.
tony larussa actually tried it for a few weeks in 1991, but dropped it quickly when it didn't end up going too well (injuries played a part in him trying it). astros either did it or proposed doing it in their farm system around 2012-13 because gm at the time figured they had so many young arms, would be best way to get everyone work (don't think it lasted long if it happened, though).
Ichiro has the most hits of any professional baseball player in history, just not the most hits in MLB and I considered Ichiro's record in the environment he was in in Japan and America to be just as valid as anyone else over their entire career in just MLB.
@@Dudewheresmycar189 That simpley is not true. Many minor league players are walk ons. They are not all drafted. Thus calling our minor leagues better players is laughable.
@@blu3collar949 lol there’s a very strong reason why japans players don’t even try to come to our minors lol that’s BecuAse our farm system is much much better than japans top league. Very very very few of japans top players could even barely make it in our minor league system.
It’s amazing to say this, but as a whole, Ricky Henderson is criminally underrated. The stolen bases aside, his runs scored and his sheer ability to create runs is otherworldly.
The problem with ever breaking a lot of these records is you don't just need an ideal league atmosphere to do so in that encourages maximizing that needed skillset, but also an especially special player to be the one to do it. You take any hitter from today's game, anyone, and drop them in Pete Rose's era, have them hit the same way as players did back then, and I'm willing to bet Rose would still beat them by plenty, because he was just THAT good of a hitter. Likewise with stolen bases; Rickey Henderson was just next level talented, well beyond the talent level of your typical stolen base leader, regardless of how much the league runs as a whole. Half of Nolan Ryan's success at getting strikeouts was because he was able to stay healthy and effective for MUCH longer than most starters can be. Unless another player comes along that is that same level of '1-in-a-million' talent, no amount of rule changing, general play style changes or whatever can help those records being broken, it's simply not possible.
This and all of your other videos are amazing content! I just found you and instantly subscribed after the first vid I watched. Small nitpicking thing I noticed is that you said Kershaw would have to get 300 strikeouts for 19 seasons in a row to pass Nolan Ryan which unless I’m dumb or missing something is way off. It’s more like 14 seasons I think
@@BaseballsNotDead AHHH my fault I knew I’d probably misunderstood seeing you do your research and I did head math 😂 I thought the 19 seasons in a row was including all of kershaws strikeouts up to that point. Been binging your vids I mean it when I say they’re amazing
The Manfred runner in extra innings is the stupidest thing ever. Pure back yard "ghost runner" shenanigans; should have no place in MLB. I refer to it as the Manfred Abomination.
It inspired me to come up with a similar rule to prevent draws in championship chess tournaments. (The vast majority of chess games end in draws.) I proposed that one a draw is declared, each player received a new Queen and the game resumes. I figure that if baseball can do it, why not chess?
BND: Unless there are major rule changes in MLB Ricky's record won't be broken Me watching this in 2024: welp there were changes and acuna just went 40/70
I wonder how many franchise records will never be broken because players move around so much. You still get a few guys like Yadier Molina and Derek Jeter and Chipper Jones who stay with one team, but most everyone else is going from team to team in trades and free agency.
Hack Wilson's 191 RBI (1930) & 159 RBI (1929), single season and 2 consecutive seasons' totals (154 game/season). I get it CAREER records, but these are remarkable considering the PED era and the rash of dingers hit by many individuals. Barry Bonds 2558 BB (career), 232 BB (2004). Joe Sewell 62.5 AB/K (career), 3 Ks (1930, 1932), BB:K ratio 7:39 (career), ~17:1 (1932)
Stolen bases are harder to accomplish now because of replay. If the runner comes off the base by a centimeter while the fielder is holding the tag in super slo-mo, it's an out.
Add Wainwright/Molina most games as battery mates, now. Both of them had to be on the same team, for a freakishly long time, to get that number. Between pitching every 4 or 5 starts, players getting rest they didn't used to, and the business of the game now a days, this one is all but sure to end when baseball does too. It's odd to say that though, since they just broke it this past year but there's every indication that it's instantly unbreakable.
The way they mishandle starting pitchers nowadays is a crime. Used to be that all 4 starters could pitch 8-9 innings right out of spring training. Now they are lucky to get 5 innings in their debut even if they are throwing a no-hitter.
They're throwing far too hard! The human arm is not designed to throw 100 mph fastballs. Only closers should be pitching that way. When starters pitch like relievers the result is short starts and sore arms. The great fastballers of the past saved their best fastball for special occasions. Guys like Ryan, Feller, Gibson were perfectly capable of throwing like DeGrom, but they knew it was suicidal and not to the team's benefit to do so.
Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell's record of 1527 (recorded) double plays turned by a 2B & SS. I say recorded because they played a few years before this stat started getting recorded and could have upwards of 1650 actual double plays turned. To me, I just can't see 2 players of their caliber being on the same team long enough to break that record.
This is just a perfectly edited and vocally delivered video I've probably ever seen on RU-vid. You definitely got a subscriber. Let's go Baseball 2023. Rockies for life.
