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The Most Used Pedal In My Entire Collection: My '90s ProCo Rat 2 Distortion | Jay's Toolbox 

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro Jam
1:34 Welcome to Jay's Toolbox
2:29 How I met the Pro Co Rat 2
5:16 Why I Love This Pedal
8:53 Now Let's Play This Thing!
19:44 Goodbye!
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@vfrbike
@vfrbike 12 дней назад
Completely agree with you To additional things not mentioned are the capability of cleaning up rolling back the volume and the enhanced sag fuzz effect rolling back the output volume around 12 o clock😉
@bfitz111
@bfitz111 29 дней назад
Got a Turbo Rat on my board for years. Given to me by a buddy who doesnt play anymore. RATs rule
@JunKungMusic
@JunKungMusic 24 дня назад
Definitely a great sounding pedal and Nuno Bettencourts must have pedal!
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Yeah bro!
@piktormusic2538
@piktormusic2538 Месяц назад
Oh, THAT’S what sag means. Nice! Thanks for this great demo Jay.
@dwise3651
@dwise3651 Месяц назад
Excellent tribute to the Rat. Loved your playing and energy for years. All the best to you!
@mykhedelic6471
@mykhedelic6471 Месяц назад
Jay is the ultimate attack dog.
@EthanCaouette
@EthanCaouette Месяц назад
I own both the Jam rattler ltd and the regular one and they are among my favorites for sure! Stacked with the Lucy dreamer both at lower gain is just magic.
@DizzySaxophone
@DizzySaxophone Месяц назад
Those first 2 tones on the intro jam were 🔥 Now I need a Rat.
@jeffikus1
@jeffikus1 Месяц назад
That.Intro.Jam! Love the tone man. Something I've always enjoyed about your playing, is seeing how "into it" you are. Super inspiring man!
@sTVG2
@sTVG2 Месяц назад
I bought a Lovepedal Eternity Kanji (PCB version) around 2010 and it is my irreplaceable pedal. I liked it so much I bought another Handwired version of the same pedal but it is not quite the same thing at all. I still have it. It has a very unique vibe to it! I could never get rid of it! It has SO MANY beautiful and useful tones!
@lebowski2007
@lebowski2007 Месяц назад
Similar to your BM story: I traded my green Russian in the box for a case of beer when I was 17…that one still hurts!
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
I feel your pain bud!
@vadidrock
@vadidrock Месяц назад
This was my first pedal back in 92. I still love it.
@Chucksguitargeekery
@Chucksguitargeekery Месяц назад
I have a newer rat, but it seriously does almost any dirt sound I could ever want (ok, maybe not octave fuzz, but almost everything). I would feel comfortable showing up to almost any gig with a rat and a tele and would feel comfortable pulling it off.
@chrishansondc
@chrishansondc Месяц назад
My two favorite pedals that I will never be without are the catalinbread echorec and the chase bliss habit. Both of those pedals changed guitar playing for me forever. I’ve learned so much about listening from delay and looper pedals.
@larsfocken3456
@larsfocken3456 Месяц назад
I have got the same one and it's great! I also have a Tele with Bigsby. Great combination. Thanks for this video!
@jeffs.3533
@jeffs.3533 Месяц назад
You are 100% right. RAT pedals are awesome. Just got one after playing for about 20 years. Boy was I missing the fun. I actually got a Drunk Beaver Heavy Bat which has lots of RAT versions. Great video. Thanks!
@a.j.garrett9639
@a.j.garrett9639 Месяц назад
I'm 47 years old. Growing up I had always heard about these pedals but with the name like rat I guess I just thought it would be shrill and crappy. which is ridiculous because somebody was buying them! 🤷 I finally bought one. 🤯 🤦 I was a fool for waiting 20 years to buy one of these It's everything I ever wanted in a distortion pedal and more. This is one of those pedals that you just should buy because they are just that good. One of the rare regrets in life that I have. I was stubborn and didn't buy this pedal because of a preconceived notion I had. Dumb dumb dumb
@KoaCharvel
@KoaCharvel Месяц назад
Love the rat and the variants of it.
@mattofthemountain
@mattofthemountain Месяц назад
I too traded away my Black Russian Big Muff a while back (for a DL4), but I recently bought another one so I’d have it in the collection again. And, more in line with the theme of this video, I bought a 90s Turbo Rat this year too.
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 Месяц назад
My favorite pedal is actually fron a local builder. Its basically a klone stacked into a prince of tone copy. What usually do with it is set the klone side to be a clean boost and the POT side to be slightly dirty with a bit of a boost as well, into a slightly dirty amp. Then I can get clean to light crunch with just the amp, a moderate crunch with the POT side and for a singing lead tone I hit stack the klone side into all of that.
@crock2434
@crock2434 5 дней назад
I use a boutique rat that does doom. It literally goes BRRR....and man I can even swing it to be an old school 308 rat..along with the ghoul JR pedal , I have options ....now I can play ambient- black- doom -shoegaze.
@therewasascene
@therewasascene Месяц назад
Hands down my favorite pedal as well. Same model. Started playing electric, got a grunge, hated it, got a rat and never looked back. For a long time I used it almost like a preamp - always on, roll back for clean. Always liked what it did to the EQ and it’s so touch responsive/reactive to the volume knob. Exemplified perfectly by your demo. I run it fairly low gain as well most of the time - but that blown out sag is iconic and a fun tone to visit when called for. It does so much!!
@Gibbo1050
@Gibbo1050 Месяц назад
Got one of the originals around 1989. Still got it and still on my board. Lent it to a friend for a while back in the 90s and it came back missing the battery cover/plate! Still haven't forgiven him for that 😅
@MykToronto
@MykToronto Месяц назад
Awesome video Jay! I've tried the '90s US versions with both the LM308 and OP07 (the latter was used right before they outsourced production), and found the difference between them was far less pronounced than when compared to a newer rat with an LM308 swapped in. Perhaps part of the magic in the older rats was also due in part tot he other components, such as the diodes. Fortunately there are so many great variants out there. I've found The Drunk Beaver Bat to be the most spot-on! That's my desert island pedal 🤘
@RJW14
@RJW14 Месяц назад
dude I got one of these for my birthday last year and damn me, I should've bought one YEEEEARS ago, crazy versatile. Spent half the night jamming on it. Does pink floyd through Sabbath to whatever. Also really fun to run this, dimed, into my boosted marshall type sound, really detonates it.
@LysanderLH
@LysanderLH Месяц назад
I have an early Keeley modded Rat with a 3-way switch for different gain profiles. Had it for around 25 years and it’s still more versatile than anything else that has crossed my path since.
@Fuhgitboutit
@Fuhgitboutit Месяц назад
Glorious rock machine is a great explanation
@ronlee2611
@ronlee2611 Месяц назад
I recently purchased a Rattler. I put together my first Pedaltrain Classic 1 pedalboard. I wanted a distortion pedal and fell for the hype. It's a great stomp box and it is harmonically rich. Fantastic pedal.
@AM2PMReviews
@AM2PMReviews Месяц назад
This compared to the Distortion + might be a good video too. I remember when my TS808 was so cool but really these rats, Klons, Bluesbreakers etc are what I lean to more now.
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 Месяц назад
Never underestimate that Tele neck pickup!
@AdADglgmutShevanel
@AdADglgmutShevanel Месяц назад
I got one brand new less than a year ago for $57. One of my best sounding pedals.
@madamp88
@madamp88 Месяц назад
Yes! Awesome - also the pedal I own the longest
@2Plus2isChicken2013
@2Plus2isChicken2013 Месяц назад
I had a Rat pedal until about a year ago and traded it. I didn't hate it, it was just a victim of a pedal purge. There are two pedals I have that I absolutely must have on my board. The first one is a Boss TU-2 tuner. That's my favorite tuner ever. The second pedal is an Emma ReezaFRATzitz distortion pedal. Out of all the distortion pedals I've tried that one is the best, and I've tried quite a few.
@mranalog241
@mranalog241 12 дней назад
The ReezaFRATzitz is great but I sold mine when I found a better MiaB pedal, while my WF reissue RAT has stayed through every pedal purge. It’s a rare “forever” pedal and this video shows why. It’s not an instant gratification amp-in-a-box, and you have to learn how to dial it in. But once you figure it out nothing can replace it - except for another RAT!
@tusleplopp1
@tusleplopp1 Месяц назад
I really love the rat myself! The Wampler Ratsbane is my favorite of the boutique variants :)
@fixedgear37
@fixedgear37 Месяц назад
Or just buy a rat. Boutique is dumb.
@craigbragg2842
@craigbragg2842 Месяц назад
Who can't love the RAT? Great demonstration of why it's so terrific and versatile. As far as pedals that don't leave my board, it has the be the Catalinbread Epoch Boost and the Red Witch Famulus OD/Dist.
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 Месяц назад
Me. I hate that pedal.
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 Месяц назад
The Rat is insanely versatile. It has this reputation of being a filthy, untamable beast; but I bought a clone that is supposed to be faithful to the original circuit and component's a while back and was surprised how I was able to get anything from a mild overdrive to wooly fuzz.
@infinidominion
@infinidominion Месяц назад
Made it sound like an overdrive 😂
@user-jy3io4iz2p
@user-jy3io4iz2p Месяц назад
Bought mine a year ago, together with SurfTrem my almost always on fav pedal. The Ibanez 850 is close (fuzz) and Warm Audio JetPhaser 😎
@bryancroad2063
@bryancroad2063 Месяц назад
Great video, I really love the rat. It was my first distortion pedal, I'll always have a special place for it, definitely my board. I did a demo too if you're interested.
@benjohnson4810
@benjohnson4810 Месяц назад
I have a Rat 2 from around '95 and it has been a very good pedal. I've had it 12 years now and wanted to hear a plexi in a box, so i got an ehx od glove and it is awesome. I was gonna sell the Rat, but i haven't yet because it sounds really good too, but not as thick as the od glove.
@reinotsurugi
@reinotsurugi Месяц назад
Love the RAT and use it constantly, but watching this, I want to go back and play around with rolling back the distortion like you did in the beginning.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Hope it opens up some new avenues for you :)
@lavalizard1
@lavalizard1 Месяц назад
What a great video - I’m a RAT fan too… that was fun. The ONLY pedal I rely on more is the Greer Lightspeed. It’s on my studio and gigging boards and NEVER gets turned off. I use it in a way similar to @MichaelWWestbrook (RU-vid) … I treat it as my amp - it fixes any issues I get running into some weird backline setup. But the Rat (and some offshoots like the DRV) are right up there… and heck yeah - a RAT slamming into the Lightspeed.. You ‘ain’t lived until you try that live… FUN.
@LtCore
@LtCore Месяц назад
Great video! Have you ever tried the JHS PackRat? I love it!!!
@craiger2399
@craiger2399 Месяц назад
I'm watching this twice just to hear you play.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Haha, thanks!
@pickledpeppersband1016
@pickledpeppersband1016 Месяц назад
I love the Rat as well but I only use it to push the amp just a little.
@davidskeie3415
@davidskeie3415 Месяц назад
Chews through any mix!
@iamstan_rimp
@iamstan_rimp Месяц назад
I just got one. Never used a rat but I love it now! lol! Not the best looking but it’s built like a tank and works! I got it running into TS mini. This is a great budget distortion that’s actually great!!
@Lalairu
@Lalairu Месяц назад
I use the RAT with a Boss SD1, it boosts very well with overdrives. I love it ❤
@iamstan_rimp
@iamstan_rimp Месяц назад
@@LalairuI’ll have to try it with an SD-1
@fixedgear37
@fixedgear37 Месяц назад
I’ve owned Rats for 36 years. Everyone should own one. The new ones sound the same.. chip doesn’t matter.
@stoneysdead689
@stoneysdead689 Месяц назад
No, it doesn't- I had an old Rat from the 80s that my mother put up for me when I moved out at 18- I'm 52 now. And a couple years ago, I found it in a box in the basement. Long story short- I sold that Rat for close to 700 dollars- went and bought a 40-dollar used Rat2- and never noticed the difference as far as how it sounds. I did notice that extra 650 bucks in my wallet though- bought an Ibanez SP3 with it.
@fixedgear37
@fixedgear37 Месяц назад
@@stoneysdead689 Hell yeah. I no longer own any vintage rats. I converted all that to cash and have a $49 used one from GC now. actually sounds better because no scratchy pots.
@TyroneLoganMusic
@TyroneLoganMusic Месяц назад
Finally got one last year. Great condition used around $60. I love it.
@stoneysdead689
@stoneysdead689 Месяц назад
@@taky2686 I agree- they sound maybe 2-3% better- and cost over 10 times as much- what a deal! But hey, I'm sure the family dog and your girlfriend think it's worth every penny. LOL.
@stoneysdead689
@stoneysdead689 Месяц назад
​@@taky2686 LOL- Sure junior- whatever you need to tell yourself. We get it...
@orryfishburne5326
@orryfishburne5326 Месяц назад
I like the Rat circuit. Im currently using a JHS PackRat on my guitar board, but my favorite Rat circuit i own is the 903 Effects Rune. The Rune uses LM308H chips which are the tin can version of the LM308 op amps, has a toggle switch to change the clipping diodes from Silicon, LED, and Germanium, has a dip switch inside for a Ruetz mod, and has a second footswitch for a dirty boost thats before the rat circuit. The only reason i have the PackRat on my board over the Rune is because i wanted to try the Rune on a bass board and the PackRat takes up less space
@admarhermans1
@admarhermans1 Месяц назад
Just discovered the Rat circuit is ideal for very low gain bass overdrive! Always thought I needed to find a low gain soft clipping transparent OD pedal... I was so wrong! The simple reason why they aren’t built for bass and why most guitar pedals of that kind dont work. David Barber helped me a lot to get that into my scull. 😄 I really dislike high gain or modern fuzz for bass... At lower gain settings and with the great filter knob, the Rat circuit does exactly what I’ve been looking for! I found it in the Rattler Bass pedal by JAM Pedals! 🖖
@marki7661
@marki7661 Месяц назад
I’m not sure what the specific circuit differences are on the two JAM rats u mentioned other than an extra diode, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to either mod it to get it closer to the one you prefer with the symmetrical clipping. If they’re too different to easily mod, I would wait till you come across something that gives you those OG Christmas Rat goosebumps and shivers down the spine vibes, and do a little JAM/RAT pots and pcb transplant. Assuming they just daisy chain all individual pcs’s together the way Pete Cornish used to do for Page and Gilmour.
@Sagerydian
@Sagerydian Месяц назад
Dude. Is that a Tag Heuer Monaco????
@wesmitchem825
@wesmitchem825 Месяц назад
Rad a I got a you dirty rat that's modded with a gain boost or a different cap value I'm not sure cause the switch is busted and stuck in gain boost mode but looking at the circuit it looks like the other option is some kinda cap value change the only thing I don't like is that it runs off a male 1/8 inch power plug
@SandauxBeats
@SandauxBeats Месяц назад
Mine seems to have like a "clean" signal after I sustain my tone. Like when I hold a note, the distortion and the clean tone signals separates. :( I dunno if it's broken but most people says it's normal. 😭 Bought it new from Amazon a year ago.
@seanzinger
@seanzinger Месяц назад
I had one a few years ago and it just didn’t sound like this. I could never really get the volume up past 12:00 though. Maybe that was the problem. It sounded good through my Iridium but not though my actual amp.
@deanallen927
@deanallen927 Месяц назад
Pedal I can't seem to get away from for too long; my Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress Stereo; yes, sue me, it's the digital one. As a lighter, smaller replacement for my Boss RT-20 I just set the speed at 1:00, the Flange at 8:00 and the chorus off and leave it. Beautiful 3D slice through the tone without the big scoop, gain reduction or the plinky metalic sound of other flangers. It LOVES being hit with a 250 or Red Llama. I wish I could put it on a band saw and just saw off the chorus part (ew!) - EHX told me, sadly, this flanger circuit doesn't show up in any single space pedal they make, and it's my favorite.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Nothing makes me happier to know that one of my viewers go-to pedal is a Flanger! I'm a sucker for them too. Rock on my friend :)
@pawelmajor5548
@pawelmajor5548 Месяц назад
SZCZUR (RAT) by Tone Charm Audio.
@tomscioscia9869
@tomscioscia9869 9 дней назад
Have you tried the Black Mass 1312?
@DTension
@DTension Месяц назад
What is that riff at :11 the first thing he plays.
@davitofarito
@davitofarito Месяц назад
I've never tried a Rat that I liked the sound of. They always sound fizzy to me.
@christianboddum8783
@christianboddum8783 Месяц назад
I could never make it work for my sound though I tried, but fuzzy tones never was my bag either... FWIW
@jeff1872t
@jeff1872t Месяц назад
This was the Rat masterclass I needed. Thanks Jay.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Thanks!
@peterpeper4837
@peterpeper4837 Месяц назад
Does the Rat play nice with synths?
@user-jy3io4iz2p
@user-jy3io4iz2p Месяц назад
Use a DS-1 on drummachine (TR-8s).
@olivier42100
@olivier42100 Месяц назад
Oh shit ! better buy one on Reverb before they shoot up 200% 😂
@thebrysmith3
@thebrysmith3 Месяц назад
Ok fine. I guess I do want a Rat.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Haha
@R1GAMBLER
@R1GAMBLER Месяц назад
🐭
@75YBA
@75YBA Месяц назад
🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀😀
@Fuhgitboutit
@Fuhgitboutit Месяц назад
I got hand surgery and cant make noise with my rats freakin lame
@starshineraiser6729
@starshineraiser6729 Месяц назад
Why don’t you reach out to Jam? I have a feeling that if they went through all the hard work to build such a pedal, they wouldn’t mind tweaking it to your liking. I’ve always heard that they’re super cool to deal with.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
As a matter of fact, they just sent me a PDF instruction on how to mod my pedalboard for symmetrical clipping :)
@slimturnpike
@slimturnpike Месяц назад
Love the confirmation bias here.
@user-qd9mm5mt4i
@user-qd9mm5mt4i Месяц назад
If you put a 9v battery in your mouth and yell "Darna!" your hair will all grow back.
@JayLeonardJ
@JayLeonardJ 11 дней назад
Tried it, didn't work... haha
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