The Most Useless Coaster Type in RCT2 

I take everything I have ever heard on the internet serious forever

One thing that I think would be neat in a spiritual successor to RCT would be if you had to manage contracts with manufacturers, like you see parks and chains doing in real life. It might help overall weaker stat coaster types be more viable if you got some significant benefits like a less expensive contract, or the ability for them to pump out a lot of coasters in a shorter amount of time.

less appreciated than the HEARTLINE TWISTER?

@@stargate525 Or the Mini Suspended Coaster. (Seriously, it's a much better ride type in RCT1 & 3 just for simply allowing more than 1 car per train.)

@@BAKU2K2 Honestly? Yeah. As pointed out, those coasters *at least* have their niches. Not great ones, but if you want a small, pretty ride, they can fit the bill nicely. Meanwhile, the Hypercoaster's not only all but obselete compared to the Hyper Twister and Giga, but pretty much *any* Coaster capable of medium to large designs. Like, just build a steel or spiral coaster, all they lose is a bit of airtime while gaining faster lift hills, banked curved drops, and even loops and boosters in the former! Woodies can be too intense, but still have banked curved drops and a faster lift hill! More importantly though, these rides will still give you similar stat values for a *much* smaller coaster. So unless you want fun with airtime on a launched coaster, All it's really good for is the aesthetics... And it's not even a traditionally good looking ride either.

I agree Would rather someone be mad than disappointed

worst thing my mother could say to me

My father always said that to me

Love that he used that meem 😂😂

B&M is most of those things but they certainly aren't cheaper.

@@DanielBlaney I was gonna say lol b&m and cheaper don't fit in the same sentence

B&M coasters are far from cheap but you get a big return on your investment in terms of throughput and reliability.

Well acktually, Arrow Dynamics overdebted themselves with the construction of X, a 4th dimension coaster.

Same for when he says “path” in other videos

I find it intensely hilarious that he carefully says "talk smack" in his accent. It just fits so badly XD

Funny how Inread this comment in the moment he said it.

"Throoghpoott"

Make a short where he says it on loop

I also thought that. It is a worse version and will make the game Harder.

It wouldve been cool to have the Arrow mine trains as a corkscrew variant in the same way (RCT has the Vekoma mine train but not the Arrow ones)

I also liked the touch of a train actually going down the hill as he said it

It's called a "stealth pun".

ngl one of the best subtle jokes out of any video of Marcel's I've watched

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It's one of my favorites in real life, I absolutely love Magnum XL 200 it's better than any B&M hyper and rivals some Intamin's. Those tiny bunny hops on the way back are amazing

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Magnum is great. But I do prefer Nitro by a smidge. If I were to rank all the hyper coasters I’ve been on, it’d go 1. Steel Vengeance 2. Skyrush 3. Nitro 4. Magnum 5. Candymonium 6. Ride of Steel That’s honestly really impressive considering it’s age.

yo when you dropping a new episode of Silver City?

Which I guess means its theoretical use is for scenario play, if the Hyper Twister and Giga Coaster aren't unlocked until later (or at all).

@@MrCheeze I would say, it depends on the other coasters, that are unlockable, but generally this direction should be valid

Yeah, I like to put it in my scenarios as an early game hyper, with the more advanced rides being relegated for later research.

But Magnum has banked slopped turns...

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv yes, but they needed a fix, so stronger/more supports and a bit of a different design to be viable. At that time it was build by hand, with no computer aid (therefore the bunny hills)

Chris Sawyer knew what he was doing. He added the Vekoma SLC-type coaster in Added Attractions/Corkscrew Follies and gave it significantly worse stats than the already existing B&M/Giovanola-inspired invert from the base game.

@@CheesecakeMilitia I would love to see more talk about the real-life inspirations of the RCT coaster types. Learned a bit from GPtoEnthusiast (I think now Coaster College)

@@nthgth Here's a video that tries to find the real-life inspiration for every coaster: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UJrsAFySPac.html It goes kinda quick, and as a non-roller coaster fan, some of it went over my head, but I think you'd find it interesting. I'd love to see someone do a deeper dive into what some of these rides are LIKE and how that informs RCT, though. Also, the other thing I repeatedly hear is that the Heartline has such terrible stats because Chris Sawyer only ever rode bad ones and never got to go ride the good ones, which are in Japan, so he gave it bad stats.

@@CheesecakeMilitia Mostly, don't agree with the hypercoaster stats Magnum XL 200 is an awesome coaster I actually like it better than many B&M hypers because it's unique and the airtime on the returning bunny hops is insane, some of the best ejector airtime on a coaster

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Its the original hyper and it holds up well cuz Cedar Point keeps it maintained well despite the arrow jankyness. The only other Arrow Hyper (Despardo) that I know of is pretty much inferior.

Yes, the Arrow Dynamics Hyper coaster, like The Big One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach

its based on the west coaster trains at pacific park

yeah, he actually used the rct1 cokscrew height for the hypercoaster in the video. In rct2 and rct classic. it is only 66 meters and not 81 meters. Open RCT2 changed the height support for the hyper coaster as it was the only cases of when they got higher than 66 meters, there wasn't any cokscrews that had over 40,5 meters height.

Yes I was the same way. Loading that “real world” park and seeing the towering immensity of the hyper coaster was astonishing and impressive.

Except IRL the Morgan and Arrow hypers are actually pretty good, Steel Force at Dorney Park is smooth and fun while Magnum XL 200 at CP is an absolutely amazing coaster

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Yeah but they're worse then B&Ms Hyper and Giga coasters, like undeniably so, unless you're just really into rough transitions.

It was the same for me but in twister coaster vs. hypertwister coaster case :p

That's an awesome idea. Nothing but mini-suspended, suspended and heartline coasters? Yuk.

​@@MoultrieGeek With a garden area containing lots of Steeplechase coasters to boot

Same

''complete the 5 coasters with 9 or higher excitement'' HEARTLINE IS ONE OF THEM. (is it even mathematically possible?)

@@DarkWarchieff Scenery bonus time!!

@@juneguts that has a cap, so does water, steep edges, parths, synchron, etc.

@@DarkWarchieff It also gets less of a bonus from scenery/ride interactions/etc. compared to other coaster types.

Mamba was built by Morgan rather than Arrow, but you raise a good point.

Inevitably you're halfway through building and get something better. Delete!

every scenario has a set order of unlockery so if someone wanted to they could make it so that you unlock the hyper twister at the start and the hyper coaster last sooooo not reallytoo much of a concern

All jokes and disappointment aside, you can still build the hyper coaster and profit off of it more than enough to be successful and complete the scenario.

@@AmyLovesYou You can do that with almost any coaster type, even the bad ones. A small dueling or racing steeplechase can make bank.

And it's ridiculously cheap for some reason (if I recall correctly it's the same price as the junior coaster). Honestly RCT3 hyper is kinda busted

@@DoritoTime Hyper in rct1: Well, I'm the only super big coaster, yes? Hyper in rct2: Why two other rides beat me on the same idea! Hyper in rct3: Look, i'm soooo cheap, have banked sloped turns and a wacky inversion! RCT1 and 2 Hypers: Please shut the frick up! RCT3 hyper: Y'all just jalous of my cheapness and my funny loop!

I prefer the Hyper-Twister over the Giga for all those reasons plus the fact that the Hyper-Twister has lower stat requirements. I've designed a spammable Hyper-Twister with over 5 excitement that stands under tree height-something the Giga could never do.

That's because it was based off the Arrow Hyper Coaster

It's actually based more off the Big One at Black Pool Pleasure Beach

Its train design is even more closely based on that of The Big One, while its supports look like those of The Big One's second half and of Morgan hypercoasters.

Demoralization? Yuri?

Maybe just Jealous of Intamin.

well, it's good on his gimmicks, like being such a nice towered coaster type and not a spagetti coaster

The Hypercoaster also gives you bonus excitement for airtime, while the Corkscrew Coaster doesn't.

Indeed. If its excitement was on par with the Hyper-Twister, it'd be worth building as a cheaper alternative to its B&M/Giovanola and Intamin counterparts.

​@@reillywalker195 But then that would invalidate the Hyper-Twister Coaster instead lol. Honestly, the hyper's worse stats are accurate to real life coaster design as they're older designs than the twister variants, but I do wish they were cheaper - or at least, had banked turns to offset the lateral Gs a bit....

Apparently heartline twist coasters are fun irl also

@@rinoz47 can confirm, both of you

Unless you're a tall guy like me in which case they can cramp realllll bad depending on your seat. Just an issue with Arrow coasters in general there though.

Try it again someday, it aged super well and is even more fun as an adult imo

I honestly haven't been able to play RCT2 since 2008 and I miss it, it was so fun to play and experiment with stupid coaster ideas. I have it on steam, I just need a computer to play it on.

Well I know that would likely be a suspended coaster with lots of turns.

Likely. I'd still be interested how high he'd be able to get it. Marcel seems to be a pro at pushing this kind of thing to absurd levels.

Not 100% true Giga coaster is just insanely good Looping Coaster on the other hand, have more decent or mediocre stats and stuff Both have same chain lift sounds

@@claudetheclaudeqc6600You’re absolutely correct. However, I’m going to reverse-uno that example because the Giga Coaster has the cable lift, which is superior to all.

I feel like the "older" designs should have been given a more distinct price advantage, to hammer home the fact that the designs were older and (generally) much cheaper in real life. I mean the three Cedar Fair Morgan hypers ran half the cost of Nitro with even more track.

@@thomasxl200 You're probably right.

Impulse coaster too, but yes. You can build a heartline underground though can't you? I haven't yet, but the theming matches...

I am hyped already

even worser in someof them, (4mph is 6kmph), but some have 4kmph

Guests will ride just about anything if the intensity rating is what they prefer, and they have the funds to do so if the ride is priced. Filling queue lines isn't particularly challenging in a successful park.

It's an equal sign. I didn't see him showcasing any code so it's a bit weird that you call it an assignment operator.

@@ruukinen I call it an assignment operator because I am used to reading code, so seeing it used normally now makes me mildly anxious because I have messed up = and == so many times lol

@@Zichqec Sure but the general use of it is to denote an equality between the things it is in between. Why would it be wrong to have an assignment operator with comparisons in the first place? The context doesn't even lend it self to code since the comparisons don't have any actions tied to them either.

Kind of counteracted by the Hyper-Twister having boosters in OpenRCT2

@@NebulonRanger yeah, but i think he ment in vanilla RCT2

@@NebulonRanger You can run the Hypercoaster in powered launch mode without a full circuit, though. That's an advantage, but really the only one.

You're not wrong. Arrow debuted their Corkscrew model in 1975 (Corkscrew at Knott's Berry Farm) and their hypercoaster in 1989 (Magnum XL-200 at Cedar Point), whereas B&M debuted their first sit-down looper in 1993 (Kumba at Busch Gardens Tampa Bay) and their first hypercoaster in 1999 (Apollo's Chariot at Busch Gardens Williamsburg).