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The Most VICIOUS Attack In NHL History 

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When Todd Bertuzzi and the Vancouver Canucks welcomed Steve Moore and the Colorado Avalanche to General Motors Place on March 8, 2004, they had one thing on their mind: payback.
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@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 22 дня назад
Anyone who thinks this was the most "vicious" attack in NHL history didn't grow up watching the game.
@gordonsands
@gordonsands 18 дней назад
Only losers jealous of vancouver think that
@sportsfix6975
@sportsfix6975 14 дней назад
Ummmm pretty sure the fatal karate kit to Adam Johnsons neck was worse...
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 9 дней назад
@@sportsfix6975 True, but that didn't happen in the NHL.
@sportsfix6975
@sportsfix6975 9 дней назад
@@xboxrules8472 true...
@sampicano
@sampicano 4 дня назад
Bill Masterton literally died after a game.... Google Ted Green and Wayne Maki "Maki had gotten up and swung his stick and with the heel of his stick, struck Green on the right temple. It wasn’t quite evident right away, but that blow had crushed part of his skull and left Green partially paralyzed, and immediately caused his speech to be slurred. Green, while his body was convulsing, tried to get up but was unable to do so."
@ryancox6268
@ryancox6268 2 месяца назад
March 8th will be the 20 year anniversary of this incident. Can’t believe it’s already been that long.
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1 Месяц назад
Hockey's version of the day John Lennon was brutally murdered.
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 8 дней назад
How are you celebrating?
@RandyDubin
@RandyDubin 2 месяца назад
I would also argue that what Marty McSorley did to Donald Breshear was just as bad, if not worse than this.
@taylorgordon2696
@taylorgordon2696 2 месяца назад
Definitely worse! Moores was just very unfortunate
@henrymanzano2201
@henrymanzano2201 2 месяца назад
Vicious,but Brashear played about 8 more seasons after that. Moore's career ended that night,and Bertuzzi knew EXACTLY what he was doing,cause Crawford sent him
@taylorgordon2696
@taylorgordon2696 2 месяца назад
@@henrymanzano2201 Moore chose to end his career for the lawsuit and purse litigation against Todd, Vancouver, Crawford and anyone else. If he kept playing he’d have no case. Dominic his brother play a long career in the league and made around 10 million, well Steve settled for 70 million. I mean common
@videogamenoob100
@videogamenoob100 2 месяца назад
​​@@henrymanzano2201yeah but players like Max Pacioretty broke their neck and were able to play. Steve probably could have played if he wanted and he's able to walk
@Tomastone
@Tomastone 2 месяца назад
Marty used his stick as a weapon, which is waaaay worse.
@Overonator
@Overonator 2 месяца назад
He had no intention of hurting him? ROFL. He had no intention of hurting him that BADLY.
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js Месяц назад
got that right.
@steve8803
@steve8803 Месяц назад
@Overonator he just wanted to fight him. The mass majority of fights in hockey end up with very little damage to anybody. That's all that was on Berts mind, a few punches. Certainly nothing like what happened.
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 Месяц назад
His own teammates hurt him if you actually watched the game.
@fredbmurphy
@fredbmurphy Месяц назад
Naslund would've been the first Canuck Art Ross winner that season. The NHL was compliant in creating the situation by their inaction in the first place.
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 Месяц назад
The coward kept running away from the fight, his own coach Granato was ashamed of him and wouldn't let him hide on the bench. The code is the code.
@patton303
@patton303 Месяц назад
As an Av’s fan, it was also pretty boneheaded of Tony Granato not to just take Moore out of the game for the last 10 minutes and I still wonder why he didn’t. I watched this game on TV and Moore was getting roughed up all game and it kept getting worse and worse. Especially when the Canucks were down by 5. You knew something was going to happen. And obviously it did. Bertuzzi was relentlessly booed and jeered every single time he played in Denver after that.
@anthonys3631
@anthonys3631 28 дней назад
Well was Granato supposed to play his top line in a game with a huge lead? No, your going to put your 4th line in to finish a game that you have a big lead in. Just common hockey sense.
@kode-man23
@kode-man23 22 дня назад
@@anthonys3631Exactly. Minus the guy who is actively being head-hunted haha.
@toddmurphy390
@toddmurphy390 2 месяца назад
Mark Crawford should have been held more accountable.
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 2 месяца назад
He's not 1 of my favorites!!
@kirktuss4819
@kirktuss4819 Месяц назад
If you're getting mugged and someone puts a gun to your head, do you say 'eerrmmmm that's illegal I won't give you my wallet sir' then turn your back? Moore won the Darwin award for being the dumbest player to lace them up, I guess they don't teach common sense at Havard.
@Matasky2010
@Matasky2010 Месяц назад
He didn’t hit anybody lol
@toddmurphy390
@toddmurphy390 Месяц назад
@@Matasky2010 he was the one that not only lost control in a revenge situation he actually encouraged it. He is guilty of instigating premeditated assault.
@kirktuss4819
@kirktuss4819 Месяц назад
@@toddmurphy390 If Moore wasn't a coward he's wouldn't have to eat baby food for the rest of his life.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove Месяц назад
I still think Marty McSorley's hatchet swing with the stick to Donald Brashear's neck while he was skating away from him was way worse.
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 Месяц назад
In physical terms it was, but coward punching someone elicits a visceral reaction. There's something that is infuriating about it. It's sort of action that demands mob justice. It's the sort of dog act that would have triggered blood feuds back in the day. It goes against the very ethos of being a man.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove Месяц назад
@@louiscypher4186 McSorley's was the exact same. Except he had a weapon in his hands. That made it way worse.
@ericmao8131
@ericmao8131 Месяц назад
McSorley deserves jail time.
@ryancox6268
@ryancox6268 2 месяца назад
The league was partly at fault for this incident. If Moore was properly suspended for that initial hit on Naslund, his career wouldn’t have ended so abruptly and Bertuzzi’s reputation wouldn’t have been tarnished. What some people fail to realize is that Moore already fought once earlier in that game. Should have been over after that. Both teams should have just moved on and focused on playing hockey.
@KINGPOOPS
@KINGPOOPS 2 месяца назад
Moore skated around like a pussy turning down fights from all the Canucks heavyweights and then jumped Matt Cooke. That isn't how the code works.
@tomyurkovic
@tomyurkovic 2 месяца назад
The NHL DPS is one of the wildest examples of damage control. That's their job as HR, but I'm sure it bothers more people than me. I'm all in favor for settling it on the ice and backing up your team, but the inconsistency is pretty crazy. As you explained, there has to be a way to turn around that retribution into something better.
@whattha930
@whattha930 2 месяца назад
Loserrrrrr🤡
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 месяца назад
As is happening today, particularly in the tolerance of players like Cousins of Florida, if you don't punish the first violent act, you will surely get an even more violent response. I think, though, that Bettman knows that many people watch the NHL for a similar reason they watch NASCAR: to see explosions of violence and the occasional serious injury.
@whattha930
@whattha930 2 месяца назад
@@stevencooke6451 Re Ta Rd
@rawnchydeard4669
@rawnchydeard4669 Месяц назад
I watched that game live. That was back when you didn’t need some weird TV provider to watch the Avs and I watched every game. I’ll never forget the announcers started yelling and me and my buddy just looked at each other in disbelief. Crazy.
@markcappiello2315
@markcappiello2315 21 день назад
FAFO-people seem to forget moore went head hunting first
@Salvatore1268
@Salvatore1268 2 месяца назад
Matt Cooke handled the Situation ironically enough the best way, then it got really awful
@DustinMikkelsen
@DustinMikkelsen 11 дней назад
Todd Bertuzzi: "I'm going to end someone's career today". Tom Wilson: "hold my beer ". NHL Player Safety: "everything looks good here".
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 2 месяца назад
The irony that part of the reason Bertuzzi was ever allowed to play again "Significant uncertainty, anxiety, stress and emotional pain caused to Bertuzzi's family" dude committed a crime "Significant uncertainty, anxiety, stress and emotional pain pales in comparison to what Moore got.... Another irony is that even with the clear intentional of the action leading up to & during the attack Bertuzzi nor the coach who claimed a hit on moore or team itself ever faced jail let alone paid any serious amount of punishment to Moore.
@Ispy10101
@Ispy10101 Месяц назад
It was assault at best, that's why nothing criminal was pursued. Fuck, McSorely's hit on Bashere was assault with a weapon with 20k+ witnesses and he wasn't charged criminally.
@sportsfix6975
@sportsfix6975 14 дней назад
Didn't he win millions, and Bert had to pay it?
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 14 дней назад
@@sportsfix6975 Even if so what good does millions do if your not able to enjoy it. The attack or the hit cost him his career & I believe he still suffers headaches & vertigo & other lingering issues. It's not quite as bad maybe as being paralized or killed say in a DUI or car accident but Vertigo Migraines & vision issues suck let alone never being able to enjoy playing what you loved or teach it to your kids. Also he was already pretty wealthy I think from being able to play Pro hockey I'm sure he'd give up being wealthier to be able to have the life he had upto the attack/hit but I'm not him so can't say for sure. I know it's believed to have physically & mentally affected his life & quality of live even maybe years off his life who knows. Still I'd bet he'd gladly give up all the money he got to have his life back to before the hit. I think in his spot I would. I was in a car accident & got some money out of it because it was caused by a Drunk semi Truck driver who ran a red light & busted my leg in several places & while i'd gladly give the money back to not have the knee issues I do still have especially in colder weather.
@sportsfix6975
@sportsfix6975 14 дней назад
@@craighanson-rc1md you forget he concussed Naslund first. He brought it on himself
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 14 дней назад
@@sportsfix6975 Look at the Naslund hit it wasn't intentional there's no justification in cheap-shotting a guy from behind literally. I'm not say it was a clean hit or that someone didn't deserve to hit or fight over the Naslund hit but it wasn't intention like Bertuzzi's & it wasn't from behind. The Naslund hit was from the side. It's a rough sport but cheap shots are never justified.
@roffew.1065
@roffew.1065 2 месяца назад
Ulf Samuelsson on Cam Neely was pretty dirty as I recall it
@TheKisj
@TheKisj Месяц назад
Yeah, that one looks extremely painful, and sadly severely hampered Neelys career
@ristorantanen5769
@ristorantanen5769 18 дней назад
Satisfaction is a good teacher
@bbajwa6116
@bbajwa6116 2 месяца назад
The dogpile the persued after is where the majority of damage took place.
@Nickh4929
@Nickh4929 2 месяца назад
Your saying that as if he wasn't clocked and slammed head first into ice before any of that happened.
@bbajwa6116
@bbajwa6116 2 месяца назад
@Nickh4929 Yeah, but that alone wouldn't cause all the excessive damage.
@Canucks44219
@Canucks44219 2 месяца назад
@Nickh4929 umm actually he/she made a comment. You are the one insinuating his/her intentions beyond that comment. Just like I COULD insinuate that your comment is implying the pile on was no big deal. Perhaps it's best to comment on words used and not pretend like you know the person and what their mind thinks.
@murrethmedia
@murrethmedia 2 месяца назад
Thanks Doctor
@alexwinter3272
@alexwinter3272 Месяц назад
Yup Avalanche fans are too delusional to realize this.
@zachross8081
@zachross8081 2 месяца назад
i remember watch that game on tv i was 8 years old when bertuzzi got mad at Steve moore
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 2 месяца назад
More video NHL 💪🔥💪
@Charlie_Kelly666
@Charlie_Kelly666 2 месяца назад
Most vicious attack lol. McSorley on Brashear
@michealranex1839
@michealranex1839 Месяц назад
Ive always thought when a dirty play ends in injury the instigator should be suspended for the duration of the injury.
@user-kq2xo2xy7b
@user-kq2xo2xy7b Месяц назад
This was not the most violent incident in hockey. What about McScorley's two-handed slash to Brashear head??
@foehammergaming309
@foehammergaming309 Месяц назад
He had his glove on when he hit him. I think in his mind he had no thought it would lead to what it did. Bad choice which is why fighting in the NHL is typically 2 willing combatants. And that should stay in the game. Key world willing
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1 2 месяца назад
I'm hoping Ron Maclean bring this up on HNIC the day after the anniversary. "I'm sure hoping that Trudeau should pay tribute to Bertuzzi for his contributions to the game, but Moore's fans likened him to the guy who killed John Lennon. Imagine there's no violence in hockey."
@kode-man23
@kode-man23 22 дня назад
Just a reminder that this what happens when 2 teams play each other 6-8 times in a single season. No specific point that I’m trying to make, just remembered the days when you could play a divisional opponent more times than a 7-game play off series throughout a season 😂
@michaelodonnell1885
@michaelodonnell1885 Месяц назад
Old time hockey boys
@alexl4710
@alexl4710 2 месяца назад
I never heard the full story of this, awesome breakdown. Another sick vid Jonah & Team
@Birenball
@Birenball 2 месяца назад
Appreciate you, Alex! Thanks for watching!
@trollslayergaming
@trollslayergaming Месяц назад
Crawford fanned the flames
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un Месяц назад
Is there different rules for a leading scorer? Why does that matter?
@roimari
@roimari Месяц назад
It isn't coincidence that Crawford was involved in those two dirty series with Wings-Avs and Canucks -Avs.
@Matasky2010
@Matasky2010 Месяц назад
Anybody that puts himself in the position Naslund did is risking getting lit up, that was silly. Any competitive hockey player will agree.
@TorgoLives
@TorgoLives Месяц назад
I watch all 3 games in question live on television. I asked some of the same questions brought up here. Why did Vancouver wait so long to retaliate? Because at first, they didn't know how long Naslund would be out. When they found out he'd miss considerable time, they definitely wanted revenge. But they wanted to do it in front of their home fans and not in a game in Denver where they were getting blown out. Ok, fine. I lay a lot of the blame on Crawford and Brad May who stoked the fires of the team and fans, basically making way more out of the Moore hit than it really was. Yes, it was a careless hit but never intended to injure Naslund. Moore had absolutely no history of cheap shot injuries in the NHL or minor league level. It was clear to me that for Vancouver, and particularly Bertuzzi, fighting Moore that night wasn't enough. He wanted to injure him as payback. Why May or Bertuzzi weren't the ones to fight him in the first place, I have no idea. But we all thought it was over after that.
@ariccua6101
@ariccua6101 2 месяца назад
This felt ironic because Todd's nephew, Tyler, just hat tricked against the Avs in Denver, of all places.
@patricklazarus2619
@patricklazarus2619 2 месяца назад
On his birthday
@ariccua6101
@ariccua6101 2 месяца назад
@@patricklazarus2619Yup!
@schuug
@schuug 2 месяца назад
Oh damn, they are actually related? I guess I should've known lol missing teeth and everything
@nicknick2903
@nicknick2903 Месяц назад
Rocket Richard once broke 4 hockey sticks over another player. I would imagine that was pretty brutal.
@ericheisler5351
@ericheisler5351 18 дней назад
He didn’t use his stake as a weapon to slash a dude’s throat.
@TrevorSchulz666
@TrevorSchulz666 2 часа назад
I think Marty’s attack on Donald was way worse. At least the intention to do harm
@11froglegs
@11froglegs 2 месяца назад
No no The 70s had the Toughest most vicious players😊😂😊
@themodsify
@themodsify Месяц назад
At least he didn't kick him in the throat!😳
@jlo2o199
@jlo2o199 Месяц назад
His nephew inherited a curse.
@danbratten3103
@danbratten3103 Месяц назад
Look up the cheap shot attack on Henry Boucha when he played for the Minnesota North Stars by Dave Forbes of the Boston Bruins. It was way more disturbing than the Bertuzzi/Moore incident.
@fixxthecat
@fixxthecat Месяц назад
Steve moore was challanged to fight several times his final game and even once by bertuzzi before punched him from turning his back to todd. Had steve moore dropped his gloves we would have a different story.
@overratedbacon4409
@overratedbacon4409 Месяц назад
How many times do people have to point out that he already fought once that game? Canucks fans constant attempts to rewrite the history of this incident are laughable
@fixxthecat
@fixxthecat Месяц назад
@overratedbacon4409 it is what it is. You can only learn from an incident this. I do believe had steve fought more than once his career would of lasted longer than it did.
@nimo6972
@nimo6972 Месяц назад
​@@overratedbacon4409 Bro, say that to the Av's player's who supported Todd.
@overratedbacon4409
@overratedbacon4409 Месяц назад
@@nimo6972 and who would that be?
@fixxthecat
@fixxthecat Месяц назад
@overratedbacon4409 2ndly, players fought and fight multiple times PER game all the time , especially in this time era.
@timw4369
@timw4369 2 месяца назад
Destroyed the canucks for years.
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Месяц назад
One of the few times you do a video on hockey it has to be one of the worst and most embarrassing. Thanks. 👍
@paulbarrett6910
@paulbarrett6910 2 месяца назад
Ended Naslunds career
@pdubb4
@pdubb4 Месяц назад
Bertuzzi broke every code there is with that cowardly cheap shot.
@steve8803
@steve8803 Месяц назад
@pdubb4 no he didn't. Bertuzzi was challenging him the entire game. Moore wouldn't stick to code and "answer the bell".
@overratedbacon4409
@overratedbacon4409 Месяц назад
@@steve8803so you’re just gonna pretend the Cooke fight never happened, huh? Ridiculous
@Eastvanucks
@Eastvanucks Месяц назад
Fuck steeve moore he got wat he deserved career ended beettuzzi still went on to make millions
@ericmao8131
@ericmao8131 Месяц назад
Don't agree. Bertuzzi was playing by the code and Moore was the coward. Too bad for Bert that he's was on his way to be an elite and his career was downhill after this incident.
@mikejessmax
@mikejessmax Месяц назад
How many times and how many games does Moore have to pay for? It was over, let it go and play the game. Agree with the original post "cowardly cheap shot"
@MRSHoRTsARETOOGOOD
@MRSHoRTsARETOOGOOD Месяц назад
That’s my hockey coach he now has a son named Hayden he coaches my team the oakville rangers AA
@kylerojas7818
@kylerojas7818 Месяц назад
He ran a head hit. Then crys and sues whatta joke moore
@patwalsh4406
@patwalsh4406 Месяц назад
Go to an emergency room and see how regular people are treated. But everyone is outraged when a millionaire hockey player gets hurt and given the best care money can buy. It’s Fuckin disgusting.
@FlameWingPhoenix
@FlameWingPhoenix 20 дней назад
Because they’re insured to get the best care.. it comes as standard in every NHL contract. Premium medicare
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 28 дней назад
McSorley on Brashear, Ferguson on Nesterenko, Maki on Green, Hunter on Turgeon and Shore on Bailey come to mind as worse than this.
@rcourt879
@rcourt879 23 дня назад
Bob Proebert was the all time beast. RIP
@kellysavalas5937
@kellysavalas5937 Месяц назад
The end result was horrific. The worst I have seen was McSorely swinging his stick at Brashear.
@the6ig6adwolf
@the6ig6adwolf Месяц назад
Marty McSorley hit someone in the head with his stick (on purpose), and you call the Burtuzzi incident "the most vicious". Gimme a break.
@henrymanzano2201
@henrymanzano2201 2 месяца назад
You can't FORCE someone to engage. If that were the case,guys like Tom Wilson,Brad Marchand,Matt Cooke,Sean Avery,Raffi Torres and Matthew Tkachuk would all be in wheelchairs
@Chasereraser5
@Chasereraser5 Месяц назад
Shane pinto had 41 games after this
@MS-ro9dm
@MS-ro9dm 2 месяца назад
Being judged on the outcome not the action. We regularly see checks from behind into the boards that are way more dangerous.
@drumagus2258
@drumagus2258 Месяц назад
this was just freak accident, guys do the same thing all playoffs long everytime they blow a whistle. bertuzzi is an idiot(runs in the family) but there are way more vicious attacks like stevens on kariya, chara on patchioretty, lemiuex on drapper, mcsorley on brashear, rome on horton, clarke on kharlamov, moore on nasland, bure on churla, messier on take your pick, ect. this one just has bad outcome.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 месяца назад
The league is gradually easing its way back to the pre-Bertuzzi era. So much is tolerated now, and it's an open secret that revenge is how the game is police, not from the odd tap on the wrist from the referees and the ironically named Department of Player Safety.
@ronaldkulas5748
@ronaldkulas5748 Месяц назад
I agree with you. I am 71 and I never enjoyed watching pro hockey as a young man because there never was a flow - too much fighting. But IMO the Russians taught us how to play hockey, and as a consequence pro hockey became incredibly fun to watch. But whenever I try to watch pro hockey now, I am disappointed. The skill and beauty of the game is not on display. They are going back to the old days I am afraid.
@jerichobeach2967
@jerichobeach2967 2 месяца назад
Moores hit on naslund was dirty but dirty hits happen all the time, and nothing justifies berts reaction. Fight the guy kick his ass but dont sucker punch him from behind! Say what u want about cooke another dirty hitter but at lesst cooker fought him face to face.
@lightdestructions
@lightdestructions 2 месяца назад
Naslund had his head down
@jerichobeach2967
@jerichobeach2967 2 месяца назад
@@lightdestructions i wont deny that but it wasnt the same kind of head down as lindros. Nassy was over extending himself reaching. He did put himself in a vulnerable position and moores hit was very unnessary and deserved retribution just not the kind bert had in mind. Nobody would hit Gretzky like that theyd just worry about getting the puck. Not comparing the 2 but nassy was the league leader in points at the time or in the season prior.
@drumagus2258
@drumagus2258 Месяц назад
@@lightdestructions so did horton
@lightdestructions
@lightdestructions Месяц назад
@@drumagus2258 the difference is that Aaron Rome lunged at Horton head
@anthonys3631
@anthonys3631 28 дней назад
@@lightdestructionsyour a you no what smh!
@alleneng
@alleneng 2 месяца назад
its only the most vicious cos of the injury sustained. anybody remember tie domi sucker punch on ulf samuelson? what if Morgan Rielly broke Ridly Greigs neck?
@drumagus2258
@drumagus2258 Месяц назад
so did moore btw
@tbprofile1295
@tbprofile1295 25 дней назад
So did the NHL learn from this? I watched a couple of games recently, and everyone just ealivates over the violence. The giant rookie on the Rangers- basically just fights - and teams try to hurt Connor Bedard.
@michaelduggan1890
@michaelduggan1890 Месяц назад
This was not the most vicious attack in NHL history . There have been many worse.
@packofredapples8
@packofredapples8 2 месяца назад
Moore dropped the gloves after the incident. Cowardly to sucker punch him from behind.
@ericmao8131
@ericmao8131 Месяц назад
Can't believe it has been 20 years. I don't condone violence, but I watched hockey for many years and there were definitely worse cases then this. McSorley's stick swing, Domi suckered Niedermayer and Samulsson, etc. I somehow feel Burtuzzi-Moore incident was blown out of proportion. Moore was a marginal player but Burtuzzi was on his way to be a dominant player in the league and sadly his career was derailed by this incident. Criminal charge was a joke. The only person who deserves the criminal charge in hockey is McSorley.
@Mike.715
@Mike.715 День назад
Moore didn’t care when he hit Naslund . If Moore had any Honour or Respect he would have faced Bertuzzi like a man ! Karma is a BITCH
@macadoom00
@macadoom00 Месяц назад
Calling BS on Bertuzzi's apology, he had every intention of hurting Moore... just not as seriously as it turned out.
@nimo6972
@nimo6972 Месяц назад
Those who understand indider hockey, know Todd got a raw deal. A fan, which is actually a fanatic, is to emotional, & bias to make a rational decision over this incident Player's from Colorado didn’t blame Todd.
@overratedbacon4409
@overratedbacon4409 Месяц назад
Name them
@overratedbacon4409
@overratedbacon4409 Месяц назад
Classic gaslighting here, folks. First sentence is designed to show he’s an expert, although he can’t state how exactly he’s an expert. Instead, he just proclaims to be “ an insider “. Second statement is designed to demean or reduce the credibility of other commenters by describing them as “fanatics” that are unable to provide a reasonable opinion on the incident in question. The “insider” then makes an absurd claim that he can’t back up, but still presents it as an indisputable truth that cannot be denied. When asked to back it up, “the insider” slithers away or will proclaim they are an expert and the responder is just too simple or emotional to understand
@Jptoutant
@Jptoutant 26 дней назад
People have eyeballs
@danrichardson8352
@danrichardson8352 26 дней назад
thats hockey
@justsomeguy6746
@justsomeguy6746 Месяц назад
justice
@Cubaquois
@Cubaquois 2 месяца назад
No, it was mcsorley on brashear
@ytb1984sync
@ytb1984sync Месяц назад
nah,this is bigger
@DudleyDoright-ru2ch
@DudleyDoright-ru2ch Месяц назад
Not even close as far as hockey history goes. Eddie Shack and Larry Zeidel (SP?) used to have stick fights that make this fracas look like patty cakes. Always speculation as to what hurt Moore, the punch or the pileup of players that followed.
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 28 дней назад
Yeah, they had cuts on their faces and heads that made them look like they had been an a knife fight
@nep401
@nep401 Месяц назад
Bertuzzi was never the same after that
@nimo6972
@nimo6972 Месяц назад
I kind of disagree, because he was not playing with Nasland who was #.1 in points. Still Todd played well for Detroit, & lived up to his contract.
@Jeff-rh8mq
@Jeff-rh8mq 23 дня назад
so what.....stupid thing to say!
@user-qo1gk2kj3e
@user-qo1gk2kj3e 2 месяца назад
Bertuzzi should have been charged and sent to jail...this was not a hockey play.
@solsang4673
@solsang4673 Месяц назад
I have seen many incidents in a hockey game . Where exactly the same thing happened to another player. The guys didn't even get a suspension. If moore didn't get injured from that play it wouldn't even be that big of a deal.
@toddedwards3391
@toddedwards3391 Месяц назад
No Crawford!!!
@dandystreethawk27
@dandystreethawk27 2 месяца назад
People are trying to excuse bertuzzi for a blatant cheap shot 20 years after the fact and that is hilarious to me. Wasn't even a super dirty hit on naslund he was on 2 knees when the hit was made how do you avoid head contact in that instance?
@KINGPOOPS
@KINGPOOPS 2 месяца назад
Moore intentionally hit Naslund in the head. Naslund was reaching for the puck with his head out, and then he pulls his head back to the point where Moore would have to go out of his way to hit Naslund in the head, and he went for the headshot anyway because he had already made up his mind.
@rf3473
@rf3473 2 месяца назад
@@KINGPOOPShahahahahaha what fucking joke.
@michaelduggan1890
@michaelduggan1890 Месяц назад
Wayne Maki and Ted Greene stick swinging and landing incidents was much worse . Wayne Maki eventually died of his injuries I believe .
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 28 дней назад
Maki died from a malignant brain tumor three years after that stickfight. Green had a skull fracture and brain damage but came back to play and well, in the NHL. .
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 2 месяца назад
Rise or another Fall for Charlotte Hornets new ERA & new owners your next video theScore 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@zachross8081
@zachross8081 2 месяца назад
steve moore never played hockey again in the NHL to bad 😢
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 2 месяца назад
Steve Moore was no Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux let's be honest.
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 2 месяца назад
​@@craighanson-rc1mdHe wasn't!! But that doesn't mean he should've had his head driven in2 the ice like that.
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 2 месяца назад
@@wilnerolivier7971 agreed I never said Moore or anyone else deserved to have their head driven into the ice or the boards or another player or anything like that nor 5 big guys land on top of him or anything. But people act & treat it like some superstar player was Moore. I don't remember much about those years but I dont believe moore or Bertuzzi were known as scorers they were good but not great. People need to stop acting like a number 1 prospect draft pick's career was cut short. Moore's career was ended that night because of that event again I'm not knocking that or trying to down play it but the comments from people actually like some unknown goon took out the leagues best is beyond irritating. I wish concussions never happened I've had a few one from a drunk driver semi truck who ran a red light they aren't fun but people have to be honest about what happened & those involved. It wasn't like Kobe being taken out by Matt Rempe or something.
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 2 месяца назад
@@craighanson-rc1md It was a situation that was allowed 2 get out of hand with the talk about payback coming from the Canucks side!! Most will say that the Canucks had every right to be angry because they saw their best player & captain being taken out by a hit that was controversial from a play who they thought was head hunting. They knew their chances of winning was going 2 b very difficult without Naslund's production in the lineup. But Moore was in no way was trying 2 injure with intent because if that was the case then he would've been sent down after delivering a hit which was more reckless than it was on purpose.
@craighanson-rc1md
@craighanson-rc1md 2 месяца назад
@@wilnerolivier7971 agreed I'm not denying that & I've heard teams say similar things after bad hits even in todays game but again there's ways to say or do something even getting revenge without clearly being criminal. The Moore hit was dirty not sure it would deserve more then a match misconduct though & earlier in that game at least one dude had already gone & fought Moore beating him well that should have been the end of it but Bertuzzi & it seems we both agree that both Moore's first hit was bad & that Bertuzzi took it to far in continuing to go after moore especially from behind. Bertuzzi tried to jab Moore into a fight but having already been in a fight in the game & not being a fighter he didn't want to fight Bertuzzi whos clearly a big guy able to fight. And Moore tried to skate away & back to his side of the ice or whatever & bertuzzi came up behind him & sucker punched him with no gloves & blindsided from behind knocking moore out & not trying to limit the fall or Moore hitting the ice. Which is where we agree it went to far. Then several other players from both team joined in to try to protect their teammates & that's all noble & good but again they end up all landing on top of the incongruous Moore & driving him face down further into the ice which along with the bodys on him clearly added to any & all of his injuries. Especially around the head & back. The canucks did have a right to protect their teammate he got a bad deal off a bad cheap hit but again there's ways of doing it. Moore had already been jumped & fought that night & moore lost badly if I remember. In baseball your team gets hit you try to hit the pitcher next time he's up or brush him back but obviously you don't try throwing 10 fastballs at the guys head that's too obvious you throw one or two pitches trying for a leg an arm or something but clearly not the head or even the back. And once you hit them or you missed a few times you don't do it again.
@Strik3rr
@Strik3rr Месяц назад
The fact that Bertuzzi was ever allowed to play professionally, let alone in the NHL again still disgusts me.
@felipepineda1585
@felipepineda1585 Месяц назад
Yeah I get it. But Naslund was never the same player ever, and he went straight for his head. Too bad Sir, you don't go after our captain!
@robertparazaider1958
@robertparazaider1958 Месяц назад
What about the guy that was killed this season?
@isailwind3471
@isailwind3471 Месяц назад
If you think that was the most violent thing in hockey, you don’t know hockey and have no business making videos about it.
@thenorthernwill
@thenorthernwill Месяц назад
McSorely on Brasher was worse.
@andrewpruett3719
@andrewpruett3719 День назад
Body slammed? Are you high?
@Ineverleft604
@Ineverleft604 2 месяца назад
We still talking about this huh??
@dawkinakus8665
@dawkinakus8665 2 месяца назад
I'm soo happy Bertuzzi (and every Canuck involved) never won a Cup! He's a criminal, and deserved jail time!!
@lightdestructions
@lightdestructions 2 месяца назад
And plus before Steve Moore hit Naslund in the head Naslund had his head down so that’s not Steve Moores fault
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1 2 месяца назад
Even Grapes should've likened Bertuzzi to the guy who killed John Lennon or a NAZI KOOK.
@jeffhanson9821
@jeffhanson9821 Месяц назад
Fu
@kev_e
@kev_e Месяц назад
Your a soft snowflake
@coreysghostglowmask8650
@coreysghostglowmask8650 Месяц назад
Calm down...
@leonardmccannon3136
@leonardmccannon3136 Месяц назад
The claim that this was the most vicious attack in hockey history is nonsense as far as I am concerned . One might argue the outcome was one of the more serious injuries seen in the NHL in last 20 years but that’s as far as it goes. I seriously doubt that NHL players as a group would agree that a gloved punch would quality as particularly vicious. Nor would they agree that the outcome was planned or premeditated. You can be sure that privately very few NHL players believe Betuzzi’s action were outrageous by the league’s standards. The outcome was a remarkable outlier, and that’s the only reason its talked about at all. I have seen countless worse attempts to deliberately injure, and that’s just a fact.
@TheBlazersfan22
@TheBlazersfan22 Месяц назад
I dont think it was the worse one. Yea it was bad. Majority of his injury was everyone falling on moores face. Worse has to be the Brashear getting slashed in the head with pure wood.
@craighubert9840
@craighubert9840 Месяц назад
Fafo you live by the sword you die by the sword. No wait then you sue
@okaythankyoubyeee2501
@okaythankyoubyeee2501 Месяц назад
McSorley on Brasher was way worse... It involved a weapon...
@Dadlife20s
@Dadlife20s Месяц назад
What bertuzzi did is in excusable. Moore should have dropped the gloves with him. I know he answered the bell earlier but Vancouver was t satisfied. Your 25, first full season, injured nhl’s leading scorer, you should’ve dropped the mitts.
@andrewwhitman3520
@andrewwhitman3520 Месяц назад
Bertuzzi should have never been allowed to lace em up in the NHL again after that.
@kode-man23
@kode-man23 22 дня назад
I’m I the only one who was shocked to hear that he played for NINE more years? I thought that he was out of the league by 07-08 haha
@daverepole9283
@daverepole9283 Месяц назад
Most vicious in hockey history? Please. What about mcsorley hitting brashear over the temple and knocking him out...
@KP-05
@KP-05 2 месяца назад
This is so sad, Bertuzzi was nasty growing up. I wish this never occurred. He was never the same
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 2 месяца назад
Steve Moore was never the same!! Bertuzzi was allowed 2 resume his career.
@theultimatemale6820
@theultimatemale6820 2 месяца назад
BERTUZZI SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE.
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1
@PatFrenchLeafsFan1 2 месяца назад
And Don Cherry should've likened Bertuzzi to the guy who killed John Lennon. He also should've belted out the classic tirade from A Few Good Men. "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT, HE DID!!!!"
@theultimatemale6820
@theultimatemale6820 2 месяца назад
@@PatFrenchLeafsFan1 WHAT THE HELL IS BURIED IN YOUR ASS MAN?!
@jeffhanson9821
@jeffhanson9821 Месяц назад
Fu
@UncleRosie
@UncleRosie 2 месяца назад
There’s never been a better example of the old adage “shit happens” but it does and in this instance, everybody lost.Then everybody had to pay. Life isn’t fair sometimes. If anyone involved could take it back, they would.
@pullhardgofast6260
@pullhardgofast6260 Месяц назад
Marcus Naslund was no saint either, before he was injured he was an absolute slewfoot machine
@drumagus2258
@drumagus2258 Месяц назад
everyone in hockey slewfoots, nobody cared about until they needed a cover for hating Subban because of cultural reasons.
@neostar63
@neostar63 19 дней назад
Hyperbole. Vicious for sure, disgusting yes. Most vicious? No. McSorley whacking Brashear with his stick was worse.
@chrisjones3791
@chrisjones3791 Месяц назад
Colorado Avalanche are always trying to end their opponent's career. Gary Bettmen can't do his job ,just like his 2 sidekicks that are supposed to do their so called hob and can't do. I don't blame Vancouver Canucks at all for that incident and the blame belings to the Front Office of the NHL. They knew Vancouver would get revenge on their home ice and that's exactly what happened. Colorado Avalanche need to be punished more for this horrible hits but don't which the Front Office of the NHL SHOULD do a better job.
@P.Fisher
@P.Fisher Месяц назад
Freak accident. It wasn't even that "vicious." We all have eyes to see it. Was it a sucker punch? Yes. Was the result horrific? Yes. However, Bertuzzi did not intend for what happened to happen. He fell onto Moor awkwardly, causing the damage. In court, Bertuzzi is liable under the eggshell skull rule. However, in relation to the sport of hockey intention matters. The fact that it was a fluke matters. Bertuzzi's apology was sincere. He didn't mean to do this. 999/1000 times, that sucker punch results in nothing more than an unsportsmanlike conduct and some bad press for a few days.
@toddedwards3391
@toddedwards3391 Месяц назад
Crawford should be behind bars!!!
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 Месяц назад
Hardly, his own teammates piling on him is what injured him.
@nevindeshpande7652
@nevindeshpande7652 Месяц назад
🤡
@nimo6972
@nimo6972 Месяц назад
Lol, I'd love to see how you feel, with 5, or six men over 210lbs fall on you 🤡​@@nevindeshpande7652
@marathonhero
@marathonhero Месяц назад
CAPTAIN REGARD TB, SHOULD BE IN FUCKING JAIL !!!!
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