Simon saying chatGPT waffles on while he effortlessly turns a 15 minute video into over 40 minutes by going off on tangents all the time really is something
We had a long anecdote about car keys and broken windows, ruminations about what the Bible is called, and old CGPT over there is staying ruthlessly on-subject - you’re right, it’s a whole thing, isn’t it? Remarkable.
@@steveharrison76 Ahhh yes the car keys anecdote! Pack rats steal shiny shit and I had a friend's keys get stolen and he baited it, followed it and found his keys!! True story. But I digress, what happened to that bloody goat?!
Stacks by Bon Iver : This is my excavation and today is Kumran. Everything that happens is from now on. This is pouring rain... Yep, Stacks. You say it Koom ron.
Well, as a Dead Sea Scrolls scholar this was a blast. Some of my own research was actually mentioned! I first discovered Simon when looking for what were the most watched videos on RU-vid about the Scrolls. It was very well written and the best brief non-academic overview of the Scrolls I have come across to date. After that, I was sucked into the Whistlverse. What is amazing about this current video is that it barely scratches the surface of insane theories. Still, I had to roll my eyes a few too many times at some fringe theories being presented as mainstream scholarship. Now to be sure, there are some BIG disagreements between scholars about practically every aspect of the Scrolls. However, no one today takes the theories of Golb (about the Scrolls coming from Jerusalem) seriously. Much of the section about the archeology of Qumran was bungled up. To make it clear, practically everyone agrees that the sect that wrote most of the Scrolls lived at the site (whether that sect should also be identified as the Essenes is still debated). There are exactly only three archeologists that tried to argue that there is no connection between the Scrolls and the site of Qumran. Those arguments have been soundly refuted by other archeologists. All in all this was rather well researched and I congratulate Ilze for sifting through an enormous amount of material for this script and managing to go over many of the main issues in Dead Sea Scrolls research. There were even I few things in here I was not familiar with (like the whole Egypt theory for the Copper Scroll). As for Simon, I can forgive not knowing how to pronounce "Qumran", but can you please pronounce "Josephus" correctly? I don't know why, but the way you mispronounce that name drives me crazy.
The point about Josephus is amusing to me. I had mostly taught myself biblical history in high school because I was of a precocious sort, and read the name as I thought it should be - "JO-zif-us" (like Joseph but with an "us" on the end), and when I started formally studying this era in graduate school, it drove my Hebrew Bible professor absolutely mad. These days, I will admit to pronouncing it closer to Simon than the way a lot of Americans pronounce it. However, the way Simon pronounced Nehemiah and Ecclesiastes had me rolling! I love how you can see behind his eyes as he's thinking "what the hell is this!" 🤣
Man, regardless of the true meaning buried within these ancient pages, how insane is it that we found pieces of 2000 year old paper that we could still freakin read...
I always like to take a moment and step back to look at the whole forest. Yes, all these theories and struggles and things we don't understand. But man. Isn't this amazing? That this artifact lasted for centuries and it's here now for us to study? Cool stuff.
Yet the vast majority of people have no idea what they say, nor do they want to know. These writings are older than Christianity and its bible, yet what is written within completely undercuts the forthcoming religion of Paul, in fact they call him out by name.
@@timothywhite6532 Yes, they were written before Sha'uwl (Paulos' name before he changed it.) God prophesied in Howsha' of Sha'uwl's coming, calls him out by name, and calls him the 'plague of death' for the religion he will found and bring into the world.
With Simon's recent obsession with chat gpt, I'm starting to think he is nothing more than a beta test for AI. Danny isn't in the basement, he's in the penthouse paying other writers to feed the AI that is Simon.
In the beginning of the video, he did say “miscalous” instead of “miscellaneous” so my money is on him being an AI who even reads the spelling mistakes.
Actually the book of Esther is a lot of fun. The holiday of Purim is based on the Book of Esther, it's the one book with no mention of God, and it's an action-adventure tale that happens in Persia. The tradition for Purim is that Jewish adults in emulation of Good King Ahasueros, are encouraged to get so drunk they can't tell the difference between Haman (the bad guy) and Mordechai (the good guy.) There was a time a few years ago when Purim coincided with St. Patrick's Day, and the one city in Ireland that had a Jewish mayor? Let's just say a grand time was had by all.
Great video! I have seen the dead sea scrolls in 2000 and it was incredible. As a child I loved the book of Esther as it is set in Susan which is my name. However I wonder if it was excluded due the fact that never mentions God in the entire book.
Get hammered for Haman with hamentashen? And the ones from my local Costco go hard too. Time to stock up Purim sounds awesome. Can I celebrate it if I'm not Jewish?
3:57.... Here in the U.S. you probably wouldn't want to break the "little back one". My cousin used to work for a auto glass company and he said that the small windows usually cost more than the larger ones because they have to be specially made and then, usually, shipped to the repair shop from a warehouse (or the factory). The full size windows are the ones that get replaced the most so they're manufactured in bulk and would most likely be stored someplace close by.
Back drivers roll up window is my choice, because it's the one you use the least to look out. If you need to cover it while waiting on replacement. (Same goes for if you have to hang a garment bag in the car... thats the window to block.
This charming man is living proof that a good script and a British accent can make anyone sound like a scholar, as long as they don't stray from the script.🤣
Right. That's exactly what's going on here. They're usually very well written scripts and then Simon usually ruins them with his woke nonsense improvs. He consistently displays his ignorance on most subjects he covers this way. He would sound far more intelligent and less of a cringe, woke boot licker if he would just stick to the scripts that are prepared for him. Men like simon are living in weird little woke bubbles and it's making them dumber by the day. It's unfortunate. Most people of above average IQ will eventually break out of those bubbles. I expect Simon to one day realize how nonsensical his current world views are. It seems like this debilitating woke mind virus was pumped out intentionally for some reason. It renders victims completely weak, docile and ignorant of what's really happening around them.
Simon making fun of the way he used to pronounce "papyrus" and then absolutely butchering the word "Aramaic" is absolute gold 😂😂. Also, "cum-ran" really, Simon? No wonder chatgpt didn't understand 😂
Simon: ‘Most of my knowledge about archaeology mostly comes from Jurassic Park.’ Me: I’ve listened to at least a dozen videos of Simon talking about archaeology… somehow Jurassic Park stuck more in his mind… also wouldn’t that be paleontology. It’s a good reminder that Simon’s talent is as a reader and not in remembering facts. Seriously though, he is a top tier reader/narrator.
@@RichardRemer Most dinosaur digs are done on the surface where erosion has revealed a site. Archaeological sites often go through many layers of a tel (a tel is a hill made of multiple destruction layers of an a city/habitation). Geologists use bore hole cores which can go crazy deep.
Wait a minute 🤚🏻 ease your fears that there won’t be an AI uprising. As in you fear there won’t be an AI uprising. Yeah um I’m 99% sure this is a sentient AI they’re already among us
The Dead Sea scrolls would reflect Jewish writing such as the Torah and my Google search indicates they date back to 150 BCE. I believe that we have found older items from the Jewish culture that are unrelated to religious stuff that are older than this but as far as reflecting the religion this is the oldest written account. Additionally and really fascinating is that people have been working very hard on trying to decipher and peace together the broken fragments and such. In some cases the University of Kentucky is using technology to try to read what they say without opening them which would destroy them. If I recall correctly a particular challenge about using technology to read an unfolded document such as these is that I don't think they used lead or something like that so they have to come up with new techniques I'm not sure where they are in the process but I'm sure several newer documents from the Dead Sea scroll collection have been made available since the work has started I think I might be confusing some of the details because they're also working on scrolls and such found at Pompeii that are badly burned and they're trying to read those too. It might be the Pompeii documents that don't have a metal in the ink that's making it difficult
Took a class on the Dead Sea scrolls in university taught by a wonderful religious scholar Dr James Tabor. The whole community was very interesting. I recommend you check out his youtube channel @jamestaborvideos
My friend lost his keys in the snow at night, and there was like 6 of us looking for like 2 hours when our pot dealer just happened to be walking by and saw us looking with our phone screens because this was before flashlight/camera phones, so he walks over and pulls out nice fat joint, a literal perfect coner, so we all join in on the impromptu sesh. Anyways as we're all token and having a laugh standing in like 1½ feet of snow shivering, he asked what were doing out here... And we said we were looking Tim's keys, so as the joint is pooched and hes about leave he says jokingly "I'm gonna flick this roach wherever it lands thats where the keys will be" and flicks the roach into a seemingly fresh layer of powder where nobody was looking... And I kid you not, the roach landed literally on the keys... We were awestruck....
Simon's ADHD ramblings genuinely soothe me and make me feel so much like I'm among company like myself and feel a very comforting belonging here. 😂 His turning anything into at least over a half hour -over an hour literally is exactly how every phone conversation of mine has been going as of late! 💀😭 Guess I really ought to get that checked out by a professional at this point... 😅
Justin (Bon Iver) stated in an interview in 2008: It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit. In the interview, Justin Vernon mentioned this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave.
The finding of the dead sea scrolls helped me to research and find the truth. Now I don't believe in this child horror book. Religion is the cancer of humanity!
@Istandby666 how? The texts they found were ones they already had, except for the ones unique to the essenes and a heavily fragmented copy of the book of giants, which was a known lost text. The Dead Sea Scrolls didn't really change anything in Christianity it did help with translation since there were now translations in Hebrew that predate the rabbinic translations that were mostly medieval or the greek masoretic texts. So unless you were an academic it was sort of a non-factor.
Excellent AD / CE point. Who cares? Who was it bothering? Like Neil Degrasse Tyson said "it was created by religious people hundreds of years ago and it's perfectly accurate. It's their calendar we use. Why change it?" I still use AD because it's so much simpler.
There are historically more accurate calendars than the gregorian calendar, and even if there weren't more accurate previously existing calendars, do you think we couldn't devise one? The reasoning for the continued existence and use of the gregorian calendar is for christians to try and assert their "dominance" over other existing extant faiths. And honestly, how much sense does it make to have a calendar based off of the story of the death of a doomsday cults apocalyptic fear mongering doomsayer.
Hahaha Simon arguing with chatGPT about Bon Iver is making my day. Simon, you’re right! And it’s absolutely hilarious that it thought you were saying, “Come run!” 😂
Chat gpt is a word generator. Not a search engine. It's NEVER, right. It just gets some things right BY ACCIDENT cuz it just happened to sample a correct answer randomly once in a while.
5:51 not just that but imagine if all 900 massive jigsaw puzzles basically looked almost identical and you were missing like an average of half of the pieces.
The lyrics Simon is talking about are literally in the opening line of the exact song he thought they were. The opening lyrics of ‘re: stacks’ are: *“This my excavation and today is kumran“* ChatGPT clearly exposed as pretty weak AI
Dating by type of handwriting/font is a thing for sure. It's all about scribal trends spread out on the timeline, the time windows being based on actual dated documents, _ie._ documents with written dates on them. Those well versed in the art of it can throw a ball-park working hypothesis dating and geographic placing of a manuscript based on one glance.
In America, we usually call it a "cafeteria". "Canteen" is more of a military term, or for a workplace where you live on site (I know many research stations call it a canteen as well)
Simon. This is the second time you got it wrong. James I ordered the new translation in 1604 soon after he took the throne. One of the scholars was Francis Bacon. So they say. Completed sometime around 1608 and a reissue in 1611. James II only lasted two and a half years and had to flee to France (1689). The Glorious Revolution. Although James II did come to power the same year as Apocrypha versus were removed from the KJV (1685) J II was not involved.
“Im sorry i know we’ll get back to the dead sea scrolls cause thats what your all here for” Nah im here for Simon Lore and DTU is the best place to find it. Story Time/Tangent Time with Simon is arguably what makes these videos 2-3x entertaining. Dont get me wrong the topic brings me in and is interesting but Simons antics help keep me here. Also in regard to chatgpt and Esther. It gave the generic “monks and religious scholars” answer as its technically true since religious scholars copied the texts through the years. As for the actual Author of Esther there is no confirmed answer but there are theories as to who wrote it, the most common being Mordecai (Esthers cousin), Ezra, or Nehemiah.
4:05 “because that’s what you’re all here for.” Not really, Simon. We’re also here to find out what kind of digressions you will go on inspired by the episode’s topic. The exact proportions of digressions per topic vary by viewer.
Hey, Simon! Try the podcast Data Over Dogma for a linguistic and scholarly analysis of the Bible by a believer with a PhD in such things and an atheist who grew up a Morman.
Qumran (Kumran) is indeed mentioned in the lyrics of the song "Re: Stacks" by Bon Iver. Lyrics: "This my excavation and today is Kumran" It was mentioned in an interview that this record was about him going through the breakup, an excavation of himself, digging everything out so he can see what it is and get it to the oxygen where it can burn away and leave. Quote: "It’s referring to the excavations where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. When they found them it changed the whole course of Christianity, whether people wanted to know it or not. A lot of people chose to ignore it, a lot of people decided to run with it, and for many people it destroyed their faith, so I think I was just looking at it as a metaphor for whatever happens after that is new shit."
If that’s what they think, they overestimated the effects of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I’m not a Christian but I can see they have only a passing effect in Christianity. It was already well known that there were a large number of apocalyptic preachers and communities around at the time
Guessing from when you probably went to school you probably had the New King James Version of the bible, which was basically a version of the original King James Bible which had been commissioned in 1611, so needed some updating to suit our 20th century ears. The kind was actually James (Stewart) 1st of England (also James 6th of Scotland, he got around a bit). See you don't need chat GPT, you just need me.
You know, regardless of whether or not you believe... Its pretty disrespectful for not trying to learn to correctly pronounce the names... Or to actively mock part of your audiences beliefs... Lemme guess ... You don't care? That's an excellent job 👏
@gomahklawm4446 Nah, that's Diet American. Full American is using BC as Before Chevy, or better yet, dating historical events in years BR (Before Rambo)
Think of it as the difference, when sitting in a board / product planning / quarterly budget planning meeting, and saying to everyone, “I have to go pee pee” instead of “I need a water break” or “I need to use the restroom” or “Excuse me for a few minutes “. You stick with your BC/AD pee pee talk.
Anyone else feel like Simon would be the biggest religious zealot you've ever met if he was born and raised in the past 🤣 not hating I would probably be one of the ones to join his cult.
It's even worse than that. The Essenes had strict bathroom rules where they could only go on certain days so had to hold it. Then archeologists examined their petrified stools and found tapeworm eggs. So, they had tapeworms.
@@Theggman83 ...Why say people HAD organisms 2k years ago? It is misleading. It ignores the fact that we rely on other organisms to digest food, breathe, farm, etc, etc. The perspective is backASSwards.
18:37, That reminds me of a trip I went to the Emergency Room years ago. They didn't refer to it as an "E.R." They called it the "E.D." - Emergency Department I asked why and I was told that E.R. was now referring to a separate department entirely, I said "Okay, but going to the Erectile Dysfunction ward is not what I had in mind." the Nurse looked at me and I watched it dawn on his face. He didn't make the connection until now. We both laughed, a few days later I was discharged with a temporary external defibrillator.
Handwriting analysis is only bullshit if you try and predict a person's personality from it. You can absolutely tell the difference between different peoples handwriting, even with zero training. I used to review paperwork at a previous job, and i learned all 30 of my coworkers' handwriting and could tell which notes were written by whom just by the handwriting. It was useful for when they forgot to initial, and i needed to find them to rectify that. I didn't have to ask 30 people "hey did you make this note and forget to initial?" I was accurate almost all the time. There were a couple of people whose handwriting was similar, which i might confuse, but after a while i learned to find unique identifying marks that i could rely on to tell which person it was
In the off chance that Simon reads this, handwriting analysis as done by wackos and as done by scientists are two very different things. When historians analyse handwriting they look at things like "we know this curling on the end of the g was common in 17th century Italy, so it is likely that it was written around that time". Then it's also possible to linguistically analyse a text in similar ways. There are also some things that might indicate if the text was written by a man or a woman, an adult or a child etc. But historians do not go around making judgement on someone's personality based on their handwriting. Intelligence service however, that's a completely different beast, I have a friend who did his PhD on text analysis and the entire project was paid for by the Swedish military and it's all about trying to determine the identity of who wrote a certain text. Super interesting, but also very new science that will likely see giant leaps forward with AI.
Im sure it's something of an act, but Simon uses chat GPT like my dad asking Google a question. Way too long and specific. Makes him feel more like family though 😂
I concur Simon, the date thing is annoying. Also... they didn't stop going off the biblical date just by changing a few letters! There is a calendar out there based on the rough date of the first human structure. As it is a rough date, we can simply use our current 24 as the end number but the first three are 120 instead of 020. Yeah, it is just 10,000 more years then the one we use now but it is far more inclusive if you ask me. For it uses one of our earliest developments, our earliest long term man made structures, as year one.
Simon. I have ADHD and usually appreciate the tangents and asides because it keeps me engaged. But, my most esteemed guy....I am dizzy. 😅 Good lord this is probably double the actual written length. The Bon Iver obsession. 🤣🤣🤣
I like that there is a clear text when you use AI generated images. Some places don't mark them in any way, and then it's weird and confusing to look at.
you en had the right song was a 2 second search just used words bon iver lyrics stacks first lines ad it same people are sing spar searches on LLMs i program sorry bedridden ATM using old wireless keyboard missing a few ke and on screen and strll faster and more accurate LLMs are search engines tat can steal copyright material without compensation!! killing what the feed from
The change from BC/AD to BCE/CE really makes no sense. They mark the same timeframe and the same thing is the cause of the delineation in the time periods. The life of Jesus Christ.
No we still like doing puzzles in our spare time, it's more relaxing when you know it's gonna fit together and there is an answer! And usually normal pussle pieces doesnt break from you looking too hard at them 😝 that being said, when it's jigsaw time at work, it's both the best and the most frustrating!
I would be so happy if I could sit quietly and put stuff together like that. I wanted to go into paleontology since I was kid but nobody had online degrees and I can't go to a campus for several reasons. I looked into anthropology as well, as similar situation. I get why I envy people who can sit there and study awesome stuff like historical bits. I'm glad you enjoy your work!
I'm pretty sure everyone who practices another religion and were more or less forced to convert to our time system were offended. We should be happy we're not changing to the Chinese time system or the muslim time system, we only have to change a few letters. Get over it.
It's the old testament and it confirmed that the KJ sais the same thing. They did a good job translation when they made the KJ . I wish that the American Indians had a written language that wasn't lost too time. Great knowledge lost too invaders.
Holy crap. I've never been this quick. This is my third time asking for a video on Thylacines or Tasmanian Tigers and their possibly not being extinct. It's unlikely, but an interesting topic with some cool evidence including but not limited to security footage and DNA evidence.
Hmm yeah ,he can recall R.e classes and tests ... but he cannot recall tv shows ... One I can recall had a well known presenter ... Guess what their name was Esther Ranzten .. It's one of them names that doesn't seem to have a masculine counterpart either.. And even through the ages ..there is evidence that some activities were frowned upon. This guy though , tries to make himself sound wise. But he is far from it.
I mean...scrolls are mobile. The copper scroll could have been created in Egypt (or anywhere) and was then brought to the cave by a traveling scholar. I've always thought the cave was more of an archive anyway...a hidden cache of important information that was kept away from Romans or other enemies. So who knows?
Talking about the clear Dead Sea, one vacation we had to Egypt (family's Egyptian) we went to the Mediterranean Sea and it was insane because you could see everything. I kept walking in deeper and the whole time just clear and actually blue! That was decades ago and still blows my mind today
