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I gotta call you out for mischaracterizing the Erubus thing. Flight crew didn't mess that up-- it was whiteout conditions but their navpoints had been TAMPERED WITH by a coked out ground tech in the middle of the night literally hours before the flight-- at the INSTRUCTION of airline executives--- and no one ever told the crew. They said their wealthy customers had complained they couldn't get a good enough view of the mountain. And boy, did they over-correct for that....
I think this is because this is based on facts without the sensationalism of the human aspect. That's what I like about this channel over others that are twice as long. I prefere knowing what went wrong without hearing from the people of family affected from a scientific standing.
Can confirm -- I too have autism and am similarly gripped by content like this. For a while I figured it was rather macabre to derive any amount of enjoyment from things like this; but the mechanics behind the crashes, the disappearances, and other involuntary departures from predetermined trajectories; not to mention the human factors exacerbated by them -- is just too intriguing for me to ignore.
I find it remarkable that the plane has never been found on terrain: I can understand a plane lost in the vast oceans, but on terra firma, even in remote mountains it seems crazy.
It’s possible that some local people found the wreckage at some point, but it just never got reported to authorities. It’s a pretty wild and remote area.
If an aircraft impacts fast enough in the right angle, there is not much to see in terms of wreckage. A shallow crater with very small pieces of debris is all you can find. If the terrain is mountainous or a forest, it can be almost impossible to spot the point of impact from the air. Many planes have gone missing and have never been found that way.
@@stscc01 Easy to lose a plane in an ocean? Very true. On terra firma? Much easier to locate if the resources are available. Let's be honest, depends on the country of origin.
5:00 From what was said in the video, it sounded like the captain of this flight that disappeared also had an incident previously on a 747. Apparently, he failed to lower the landing gear prior to touchdown. I don't know much more than that.
oh Yes i know this accident the plane actually made a belly landing after the pilots for got to lower gear. The aircraft managed to land and was repaired soon. all survived
Yeah, that's actually the reason why I think Pilot suicide may have been a possibility. But as I am from India, and know how the general public and the politicians of India and Pakistan are around the topic, the "India shot down the plane" conspiracy would be much more prevalent than something more logical.
Please note it was not a demotion for him.On the contrary , he was on promotion here.....from being a Co - Pilot on 747 and now as a Captain on F - 27.....
@@annabethchase2569 The incident mentioned was PIA flight 300, registered as AP-AYW on February 4, 1986 at Islamabad Airport, over three years prior to the disappearance of flight 404.
I think PIA has a history of landing without landing gear. Even a recent one. I think they should have "is the landing gear down?" Painted on the walls of the cockpit.
I remember that there was a PIA A320 that met with disaster in May 2020 after the pilots neglected to put down the landing gear, causing major engine damage after scraping the runway. PIA 8303 was the flight.
i've been fixated on mh370 for so many years no (i remember watching it all unfold) and i never thought that there would be ANOTHER, earlier instance of a plan just vanishing. thank you for another great video! i always look forward to your uploads! :)
I imagine there have been quite a few, in the days when a search simply wasn’t practical because the technology it would have needed to even think about searching just wasn’t there. After all, how many years did it take to find the Titanic? Also the expense - not every country could afford to spend millions of pounds/dollars/euros etc trying to find a plane, which in any case would no doubt be smaller than MH370. There’s also a plane that’s disappeared and nobody knows if it even crashed or not and if it did, whether it’s in the sea or on land. That’s an interesting story. I’m sorry, I should be giving links to these, but I can’t remember enough about the videos to look without spending hours.
Mh370 was found. It was the plane at the mh17 crash site. But mh17 is the real missing plane. It sounds crazy. But I really can't explain it all here. Dig and you shall find. There's a video of the crash site uncensored and most are adult and Asian. Mh17 was half child and almost no Asians. The planes were almost identical. There's a lot more too. The lady that filmed the crash site(a researcher) said it smelled like chemicals used to keep bodies from decomposing.
@@willemgijs3803 It does sound crazy because it is crazy. Myles Power has a good take-down of the various conspiracy tales surrounding MH370, including a debunking of the MH370/MH17 claim: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-goOLDkiQ9XU.html
You’re simply amazing! Churning out videos no matter what’s going on in your personal life. This is quite the mystery…thanks for a great video about this flight.
I've been binging this channel for a couple of weeks, which is weird because I have anxiety when it comes to riding airplanes. But your objective, easy-to-understand explanations (even for me who doesn't know anything about planes!), the laying out of facts without too much drama, and the clear narration is almost cathartic and actually make me feel less anxious about riding planes. Maybe because I am learning about how these things work and what can go wrong with them (and how often that happens). So thank you so much for making and regularly updating this channel! I'm patiently waiting for more 'disaster averted' ones, though ^^;;
I highly doubt the shootdown theory, it's too far of a distance for that plane to travel in that time and remain undetected and out of radio contact. However, I find the most likely theory to be that it went off course due to pilot error and crashed in an area, probably an area so unlikely that nobody thought to check there.
I think if it was shot down there would have been political conflict. As if the Pakistani government would have kept quiet about India shooting down a civilian aircraft.
Indian Army doesn't believe in gurrila tactics. Even if it had shot down the plane, by accident or malign intent, it would clearly declare it. Not keep it a secret.
I love all these videos, Chloe! Keep it up! And if you are taking suggestions, I think the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 crash might be an interesting video to tackle.
Thank you! That is an incident I do want to cover. Of course the incredible tale of Human Survival is what is most known about it. And while there already exists plenty videos on that aspect of it, I think I could make a video on how the plane actually crashed.
Amazed you didn`t mention `Stardust` the Avro Lancastrian that disappeared in the Andes, only to be located decades later. I`d never heard of this PIA event, however, given the awful performance of the Sub Continent`s `Pilots`, this vanishing is not so surprising. Please keep covering such little known accidents which have (hopefully) improved Airline/Airport/Pilot safety standards
If a pilot proves himself to be unworthy of his position; landing a 747 with the gear up, don't be surprised if he makes another brilliant move at some point
I'm from Gilgit and I remember the stories from my father that this plane took off and was never to be seen again. Some of my father's friends were in this plane.
If it did hit the side of a mountain looking for recognizable plane sections probably won't help. The sudden impact into a steep slope would completely disintegrate the entire plane. Just look at the Germanwings crash, nothing but debris on a side of a slope.
What I like most about your channel is it's based on facts. Don't get me wrong .. the lose of human life is tragic BUT .. your videos are not sensationalized off the lose of life and focus more on what brought these planes down which from a scientific viewpoint intrest me more.
Big fall from Boeing 747 captain to F'er captain. The mind boggles! As an aside, the HS748 would have been a much better choice of aircraft for PIA than the F'er given the mountainous terrain in Pakistan.
Hi thanks for the comment. I get 95% of my music from Epidemic Sound. I pay a license to use the tracks. The other pieces of background music are a mix of things I composed myself or other Creative Commons tracks.
I think that British plane broke apart due to minor cracks around the windows frames due to many cabin pressure cycles the plane was tested in a large water tank not turbulence.
The only problem is the fact that they were under 14,000 feet. And the plane wouldn’t of just gone off radar. It would of flown on autopilot until running out of fuel.
I read somewhere a theory that it was hijacked...im not familiar w the politics of the region so im not adding to something that could be wrong...i figured i just mentioned it as i noticed it wasn't in the vid...Great work on these!
its so much beter. thank you for uploading it DS. love your videos. i tink the plane was bombed or it could be an IFF(in flight fire) or pilot suicide. that are the only tings i could come up whit. hope it helps.
if you go on google earth and put in the co-ordinates 35° 14′ 12.87″ N, 74° 35′ 24.22″ E , you go to your left and there is something that looks like a rusty fuselage and green PIA tail plane
Did anybody else make the connection between the flight number and the error number appearing on a computer screen when the website you’re trying to visit can’t be found ? Well known as a “404 error”, it usually means the site’s no longer at this address, mistyping the URL or not having an internet connection. Quite eerie that this was flight 404 ….
I recently went to Pakistan and visited Gilgit in Pakistan. I flew in the same style plane ! Man that airport is sketch and the runway is in between the mountains. If I had watched this prior to visiting Pakistan I would of never went to Gilgit ! I drove going there and it was over a 20 hour drive !
Although a small private plane the Bass Straight disappearing from the late 1970's or early 80's is a very intriguing one.In accounts I've read, which doesn't mean they are correct,the flyer claimed a huge object had intercepted his plane somewhere between Melbourne and Tasmania.
You got a lot wrong. First, it was created in the 1980s. And it was actually created by the royal family of Dubai. Pakistan provided assistance and leased two airliners to them, but the family also got two 727s themselves. So it's been established and run by one of the six ruling families of UAE. So... it'd be like if England didn't have an airline and the Queen decided to create one with her money, and France gave them some help, and leased (for money) two of their own airliners to them. And then the Queen added two more and the airline began.
And PIA has been banned from flying to the US or Europe (or the airspace) for some time now. A quarter of all Pakistan's pilots had fake licenses - out of 860 pilots in Pakistan, 262 had fake ones. And many of the pilots (real or not) were PIA pilots.
3 years later I think we have the answer. Someone who must remain unanimous tried to use modern drones to take photographs of the location and trek to the mountains himself to investigate. Shortly after arrival, and a discovery he was summoned to someone or organization. The drone and drivers were kept and he was reimbursed and told he doesn't have the blessings to investigate. Up until 2018 there was some debris left which is now seemingly gone. Context would help here, the time of incident was really important to how they acted, during this time PM the first female head of state was overthrown creating pressure. Something to note the person who told this maybe authentic but he never claimed that who did that, who actually took down, was it the neighbors or maybe themselves.
It's a North East English Accent (well supposed to be). I took voice training as I'm a singer too which definitely affected my accent over the years. I am from Newcastle though :)
@@DisasterBreakdown Oh that's great! I lived in Teesside for 6 months. I am American (Texan) but don't sound like it because of all my training in singing/theatre.
Please note , the names of the Pilots here is not correct.Also , there were 3 Pilots in the cockpit and this was a training flight for the Captain.......
Here's the link to the incident's Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Faucett_Per%C3%BA_Boeing_727_disappearance I have been thinking of doing a video on this but I haven't decided yet
On the way back the flight, now Pk-604 took a slight detour. The Captain, an avid hiker, flew from the left of Nanga Parbat to see some trails. He did not know that he had crossed over to the Indian side of the Line Of Control, which is not a standard border, over Kel Sector, one of the hottest sectors along the LOC. At that point the aircraft was below 15,000 feet flying between mountains higher than that. The Indian Army saw the plane and shot it down. This is a daily flight since decades now. There was no reason to shoot it down though. This was a slow speed passenger aircraft which was seen daily by the armies of both sides thrice a day. The reason why the wreckage was never found is because it was not on the Pakistani side of the LOC. All flying in this region till the aircraft reaches the area of Mansehra is visual. In the cockpit, we used to get All India Radio instead of the ATC communication for about 20 mins out of the 50 mins flight.
A RU-vidr suspected that he found the wreckage of PIA Flight 404 on Google Maps. A redditor said that he used a different satellite imagery software and saw what appeared to be really a plane on the same site.
Mountains can be so breath taking and beautiful. But also very unforgiving. This sounds like one of those events which will never be solved, unfortunately.
