The Mystery Of Mortarion's Father - 40K Theories 

His adoptive father was actually a Squat.

The Emperor may have been your father, but he ain't your daddy. - Nurgle

Mortarion being obsessed with the number 7 could just show he was actually an employee of Bungie

Mortation's homeworld sounds so edgy: super toxic wastes populated by primarch-sized dath-vader-like necromancers.

What if a Dark Eldar humonculus sold his soul to Nurgle in exchange for escaping Slaanesh's hunger? Then, after Mortarion's apotheosis, he was gifted his father's soul by Nurgle?

A time lost version of Mortarion himself, he is his own dad.

a human politician. only creatures not blessed by nurgle who can survive or thrive in such toxic places

Mortarion’s adoptive father is probably a xenos race we haven’t encountered because they all died about 10,000 years ago so we will likely never know

I'm still waiting for my Mortarion and Isha: Road trip out of the Warp story, costaring ciato sicaroius, kitten, corvo coraxs, and with special guest star...... CREED!

The corrupted Man of Iron theory was waaaaaaay cooler than making Mortarion's father a random unknown xenos. :(

His dad was just a regular guy who smoked so much early in his life that his lungs became nigh-impervious to anything

"Could it be possible?" "Yes it's possible!" Every time, lul

His father was a hamster and his mother smelled of elderberries

what if Mortarion's adoptive father was actually an dark eldar haemonculi like you said but Nurgle bargained with Slaanesh to have the soul kept as a gift for Mortarion?

It is not confirmed that Mortarion is a Daemon Prince. He has gifts, but lacks the decay and bloated infection. Also, the lack of the warp does not lessen him. This indicates that he is not a daemon prince yet.

It was alexis

Mortrrians papa was the green grouchy garbage guy from sesemee streat.

What's more toxic? The atmosphere of Barbaros, or the League of Legends Community?

I believe it's possible his Father was a scion of the Necrontyr. A last member of their species from before they lost their flesh.

Isn't it possible that Papa Mortarion, if he was an Aeldari(tm), kept a Soulstone around "just in case", even if he wasn't Craftworld Aeldari(tm)?

Vampire lord.

The story of the Mortarion is one of the bests, no doubt

Could he prehaps be a Hrud? The weird xenos made of maggots and filth, it would fit in with the link to nurgle and why he or rather it could breath in such a toxic atmosphere

I could see hyim being a dark eldar like was said in the vid, and it has been shown that Nurgle being quite old compared to Slaanesh might be able to protect the souls of Eldar/dark Eldar that fallow him. He was able to take the Eldar goddess from her before she could consume her like the other Eldar gods. Though i will say that like with the Laer it would be fun to see some more races that are fully devoted to specifically just one of the chaos gods. Mostly to see what kind of creatures they would become thru such devotion to that chaos god.

Every number related to Mortarian involves a mathematical operation of seven and two. 7*2=14th Legion 7^2=49 steps of his Deathshroud Bodyguards I think it's not just a reference to the obvious number of Nurgle, but that the repeated usage of the number two seems to hint at another reference of which I am unaware.

Spoiler Alert! - - - - - - - - - - - The largest of the clocks was the second item. Occupying the central portion of the room, and twice the height of the daemon primarch, it had three faces and stood on three legs worked with the tripartite symbol of Nurgle. The legs did not obviously represent those of any kind of beast, fantastical or otherwise, but were made so that it crouched over the floor, giving the impression it was about to strike. Its faces were a metre across, and each had seven hours and three hands with pointers made in the shape of flies. The time was approaching the clock’s midnight. A massive scythe on a chain served as a pendulum. It swished across the space beneath the clock. Reality sighed as the blade cut into the very stuff of creation, and every tick-tock was the death of something fine. The third item was contained within the great clock. Atop the timepiece was a huge bell jar, covered all over with arcane symbols. The lower half extended into the space between the triple faces. The upper half made a lesser dome below the greater. There was something inside: a prisoner. Its presence explained why metal tubes were attached to glass valves in the jar. They allowed certain poisons to be introduced, though not to kill. The jar was a device of torment. The thing inside the jar was no longer alive, but it could suffer. Streamers of corposant moved behind the glass. As Mortarion entered the room, they coalesced, becoming a monstrous alien face. Even in death, the soul’s psychic potency was great enough to stop a mortal man’s heart by sight alone, and then raise up his corpse to serve the creature, but to Mortarion the killing scorn it broadcast was a balm. ‘Good day, father,’ he said. The primarch’s voice was ghostly. A deep, sighing whisper. For a thousand years, Mortarion had pursued the soul of his adoptive father through the warp with packs of baying beasts. Over the landscapes of insanity and through the kingdoms of dreams, the pursuit had gone on. Mortarion had turned his face entirely from the mortal realm in those years, so bent was he on having his final vengeance upon the xenos creature that had adopted him, used him and had been slain by the Emperor when Mortarion had failed to kill him. Imprisoning his alien father’s soul had brought Mortarion a modicum of peace the Emperor had denied him. The hunt was long ago, and the novelty of the prisoner had worn off. The lord of death paid no heed to his foster father’s glowering and went to the clock’s pendulum. An extract from Dark Imperium by Guy Haley.

Probably the best WH40K channel, and I'm fkin picky.

His father was some sort of Space Skaven. But really, whatever the species, it's clear to me that he was, at some point, a worshiper of Nurgle. I don't think any xenos species that hasn't been ruled out (eldar) is capable of surviving in Barbaras' atmosphere like he had, this leaves only one conclusion in my mind; along with this, the fact that Mortarion would later become a Nurgle worshiper himself does, in a roundabout "fated from the start" sort of way, suggest it was Nurgle who placed him on Barbaras in the first place - as Papa Nurgle does have a heart of gold, and it would make sense for him to put anything under his care into the care of his own servants.

I would have guessed some Abhumans, people who made purposeful genetic alterations to themselves to survive in the high spires and take on a "twisted nobility" status, but with the new canon, probably vampiric xenos. But either way, they would have a baroque alien vampire style - like in Vampire Hunter D. That's my take on it anyway.

I've always imagined his father as being human in origin but so corrupted by Nurgle and the various chemicals of the planet that he may not have been recognizable as a human being when Mortarion was adopted by him

I think his adopted father was the Emp. I swear the more I read the more the Emperor reminds me of Alucard from Hellsing Abridged.

Is it possible that an eldar that fell to Nurgle would have their soul captured by him upon death, instead of being consumed by Slaanesh? Nurgle is much older, and since he technically represented forces of nature that every living creature is affected by, I'd assume he's stronger than Slaanesh also, so wouldn't he be able to lay claim to the soul and keep she who thirsts at Bay?

Thats a great ambient soundtrack! Gimme

he was 5 sqats in archeotech power armor

Hey Remleiz, will you be doing an update to this at all? This topic is explored in the recent Black Library book "The Buried Dagger". It was a great read, I'd recommend it to anyone interested in either the Knight's Errant or the Death Guard.

I think the armour is probably something like the centurion, in that it was than him, thus meaning it likely had a fully sealed compartment for if he wasn't a nurgle worshipper.

A renegade Nephalim perhaps? Your argument is pretty good. Just a thought.

Are you re-uploading videos or remaking them? Cause I feel like I've seen this before.

I'm really bummed they decided to flesh out that little mystery.

It was Hexxus inhabiting an old suit of power armor.

She Who Thirsts doesn't automatically claim every Eldar soul, since the soul needs to be within the reach of the warp or one of Slaanesh demons, she/he/it just very zealously hunts/seeks them. Hell even then either of other 3 gods can fight Slaanesh for an eldars soul just for shit and giggles but choose not to since it's not worth the effort/trouble, and I wouldn't put it beyond Nurgle to throw a fart between that eldar's soul and Slaanesh just to please Mortarion, after all Papa Nurgle loves all. If use of Spirit stones is involved as you said then the soul is basically rape-free as long as the stone itself is free, and I can see Mortarion picking up the stone or storing the corpse and unknowingly the stone with it somewhere for later handling.

Anybody know where I can find the photo of pre heresy death guard at 6:58

Chaos Jokaero confirmed!

I think its very likely his father was a worshiper of nurgle, and i think that the warlords would have been a race similar to Vampire. his father being called an unknown alien speices actually does not rule out Abhuman decendent, they just where so far from human to be unrecognizable, as we do know from Fenris that humans in the dark age of tech used DNA manipulation to adapt themselves to a world if they couldn't adapt the world to them

Could anyone tell me what the background music is?

Is this a re-upload? I thought you already did this months ago?

Ooooo what is that nice creepy background music?

I think the overlords were a slightly evolved version of the Necrontyr that somehow escaped their world albeit poorly and crash landed on barbarus just as civilization collapsed after the age of strife and since leaving their poisonous world they slowly became stronger and bigger kind of like superman in a way, now I'm not sure where they got their psyker powers, but I assume it's either because A: the random warp storms may have mutated them through the generations causing them to receive the psyker gene, or B: they obtained their psyker powers when they were among the humans and the power just rubbed off onto them, I think the former is more likely. The reason I think they are Necrontyr is both because of their obsession with death and having power over others seeing how they were jealous of the old ones for having immense power over them during their first violent encounter with one another, plus the Necrontyr are pretty much extinct at this point, they are the Necrons now and thus have no way of reproducing.

Mortarion was thin and cadaverous, he was one of the tallest, but otherwise he wasn't one of the biggest. The biggest was Magnus because he could change his shape. After that, maybe Ssnguinius or Fulgrim.

Could it have possibly been another perpetual? I understand that they are not only found on Terra.

Now we need him to go on live warp tv to find his father

Mortarian's father was actually Typhus in the far future. The warp transported him back to help form his genesire and implant the necessary bio markers for his corruption by Nurgle. Thus it explains why Typhus disrespectful attitude exists.

I would say that his father is Malal.

So...an overly large warlord who had little regard for his health. Sounds to me like Mortarion's old man was an ork.

Tbh the whole planet being ruled by Nurgle worshiping half-demon warlords sounds like the coolest theory.

It could be an interesting expansion/retcon if the father is a Dark Eldar. I never liked that all Eldar souls are instantly eaten. Hunted and Eaten is great lore and true to the grim dark, but instantly eaten is so quick and final that it kind of kills the fun. Retconing it and having souls have a slight chance of escape would enable a more colorful and grim lore. I mean what sound more interesting? 1-They are eaten instantly. or 2-Hunted, tortured, and slowly devoured by Slannesh and its demon hordes who gain perverse pleasure and dark sustenance from their pain and growing madness.

I always thought his father was a mutant phyker

A lot of this has now been answered by the book The Buried Dagger.

Morty’s Father is Skeletor, he was protected from the deadly miasma because he has no nose to smell it.

Re-uploaded or Updated?

His dad was Ozzy Osbourne.

Mortanian, daddy wants you to come home to the Imperium.

is it possible if Mortarion adoptive father was a dark eldar Haemonculi did he sold his soul to Nurgle to escape Slaneesh

His Adoptive Father was to big for an eldar wasnt he?

On the Codex Hereticus for Death Guard it was said, that's they were Xenos.

An Ork Warp Head?

they should write a series of books about the lives of the primachs up to the point the emperor arrives to claim them.

We all know that motarion father was non other than the hideously deformed creature of superhuman size and strength Melvin Ferd aka the Toxic Avenger

Due to the undead think I feel like it could be a necron

We don't really have any information as to what happens to the souls of Eldar that have sworn to one of the other chaos gods. I see no particular reason that a haemonculous sworn to Nurgle would not be passed into the putrid realm...

His father is a highly evolved kroot

The only point for him being Drukhari would be that if the father's soul was in a Daemon of Slaanesh no?

Srs question. If Mortarion can collect the soul of his father then why hasn't someone collected the soul of Malcador the Sigilite? 😳

His father was Tryzan :P

Can the Eldar turn into Chaos with the release of the Eighth Edition?

If his father WAS an Eldar or Dark Eldar, could his soul not have been captured by a soul stone when the Emperor killed him? The stone could then later be collected by Morty to be tortured at his whim.

My theory is Mortarion’s father was obviously a perpetual if he could survive that.

Does any other deamon primarch still keep his personal bodyguard around?

What if it was a last serviving old one?

I do wonder what species the adopted father

Is it possible that the he was a Dark Eldar who worshiped Nurgle?

We'll never see black library nor Games Workshop actually do it, but if any Demon Primarch was actually redeemable, it would be Mortarion.

So when an elder dies a slaaneshi demon spawns to claim the soul in real space? Otherwise how can you discount him being Eldar? How would you know his soul wasn't claimed?

mortarion's daddy was a weird boy. that would also explain size

Mortarion's dad was Drew Carey?

I always just thought his "father" was a chaos sorcerer.

Well if he was bigger than Mortarion than I guess he obviously wouldn't be no human or dark eldar.

Could he be a Hrud?

GIANT PSYCHIC FLAT POLARBEARS

Mortarion lived in Ravenloft

He was a Zoat.

An Old One.

My Lord nagash.

He's calling Eldar by their new bullshit name :-|

Obviously a Tau in a battlesuit

This whole 'drukhari' and 'aeldari' shit really gets on my nerves

Necron.

He da bestist Ork!

It be interesting if the species of Mortarion's asshole adoptive father turned out to have been plotting their revenge aganst the Imperium for driving them off Barburus. This would also probably cause Mortarion to hunt the ancient xenos species that he thought driven extinct millennia ago. 40k equivalent to the Vampire Counts. That's my guess. It'd be awesome to see something that.

his dad was Chuck Norris