The Mystery of Panic! at the Disco's Cricket and Clover (the Cabin Album, Unreleased 2007) 

UPDATE! Jon just posted on Twitter that his dad found a CD containing THREE Cricket and Clover demos! No idea if or when they'll be released, but he let the rest of the band members know so hopefully something will come of it eventually - twitter.com/iamjonwalker/status/1048692039485812736

pretty odd was so different because they swore to shake it up and we swore to listen

*thINGS ARE SHAPING UP TO BE PRETTY ODD*

*FIND THE HARD DRIVE! FIND THE DAMN HARD DRIVE!*

This is fascinating. I had never heard of any of this. Thank you for making this.

Wow, I haven't heard anything about this scrapped album in _years._ Those were strange times in the fandom. The memes... and the _fanfiction._ Oh, the fanfiction. That said, I never knew the album was so experimental, and I can tell you why it was - drugs. No joke, around this time the whole bad got super heavy into marijuana, though Brendon had been a stoner since high school. I suspect there were other more psychedelic drugs sprinkled in there too. But yeah, that goes to explain a lot about their thought process, behavior and output at the time.

I guess you could say they closed the goddamn door on this one

Man this made me mad nostalgic for the old days of Panic

I’m almost 100% sure the lyrics in that photo are authentic. I remember when they were first shared online years back, Ryan’s ex-girlfriend, Keltie, has posted them either on her twitter or now deleted blog. She dated him during 2006-2009 but continued to talk about him all the time so she must have been holding onto them.

Pretty. Odd. is my favorite album of theirs by far

Ouh music, Green Day's Cigarettes and Valentine's is interesting too as a piece of lost media

I WONT CUT MY BEARD AND I WONT CHANGE MY HAAAAIR

Nearly Witches is actually my 2nd favorite song of theirs (Lying is the most fun.... is the first), so i'm real curious about these missing songs.

I would've loved to hear Cricket and Clover. There's an album called Evelyn Evelyn that tells a complete story without traditional song structure that i love. Not that i don't love Pretty Odd, but i wish we coulda had both

In b4 P!atD fans literally ask the band for the album like a bunch of paparazzo.

I stopped listening to them after Pretty. Odd. To be honest nothing could top that for me. Every choice of instrument, every metaphor, just everything about it was everything I wanted in an album. The mix of classical, folk, modern, with a heap of Alice in Wonderland-esque magic thrown in. Uplifting, intriguing, mysterious, a little dark at times, observing the casual strangeness of the world. I was probably more a fan of Pretty. Odd. than the band.

plot twist the reason ryan hasn’t released anything in years is because 1. he’s upset over cricket and clover being lost 2. he’s searching for it 3. he’s rewriting it and/or 4. he knows where the hard drive is but he doesn’t have the rights to it. lmao would that be something

Those lyric sheets are real! In the making of Pretty Odd there's a clip at 12:30 from the cabin of Brendon singing "...on strings, I feel like something velveteen", which is in the 3rd sheet as "I feel as if I'm a figurine, I feel like something on strings... I am something velveteen" And at 12:49 you can see Ryan lip syncing to Brendan singing another song: "scarlet stocking sink every lash up in the harbour" (?) And at 13:15 Brendon sings "scratch my phosphorus skin" I'm guessing these clips were from what would have been a Making Of for Cricket and Clover, just like for Pretty Odd.

not gonna lie, i wish they continued the sound of pretty odd. sadly, that came from ryan ross i feel like. i’m honestly in love with pretty odd.

I admit I was a bit confused when I saw the notification for a lost Panic! album but glad that your covering this because I genuinely love this band. :D

Also, to add to the theory, if you watch the Calender Business video (the making of pretty. odd.) there are some clips of the band singing lyrics that aren't on the Pretty. Odd. album. I don't remember all of them, as a lot of time it had the video with someone talking over it when they were playing, but there was a part where they mentioned something about "weathervanes pointing the way" or something (and no, it wasn't to the tune of Northern Downpour, before you say anything). I'm willing to bet that a lot of lyrics that don't make sense to us off of Pretty. Odd. are actually references to songs that they wrote for the Cricket and Clover album.

This is really interesting to see from you I didn't even think there would be that much info from Cricket and Clover considering it's so obscure. I wish there was cleaner audio for True Love somewhere as that's such a pretty sounding song. I think it would be interesting for you to talk about Songs From The Black Hole an album that never was from Weezer.

I think lost media is really interesting so i subbed to your channel. I also love panic! so as soon as i got this notification i freaked out

Y'know, Weezer also has a similar story to Panic's. Their second album was a concept album called Songs From the Black Hole. However unlike Panic's album most if not all the songs for it have been released.

Any day LSSQ releases a new video is a good day

4:50 There’s more songs since Jon on Twitter said there’s 14 tracks * "Feather Fingers" * "Fill Me Up" * "I Don't Have a Shirt, But I've Got a Hat" * "Phosphorus Skin" * "Porridge" * "Scarlet" * "There Was Once a Man from Nantucket" * "True Love" * "Velveteen

In the 30 minute Making of Pretty Odd documentary, we actually hear them performing snippets of the Crickets and Clover album, like that song about Scarlett.

I love Panic at the Disco more than I love myself. Can't believe I've been a fan for over 10 years.

"To hell with our guitars!" Explains why Ryan fricking destroyed one of his guitars up in that cabin by burning it alive XD

The fact I knew all of this all ready is sad

Wow! I’m a huge Panic! fan but I never knew this album existed! Super interesting, thanks for making this video! Nearly Witches is one of my favorites so it’s really cool to find out a bit about its origins.

Music lost media is really interesting

Wow I would of loved to hear this album or a few songs from it even though Cricket and clover seems to be kinda messy. But I kinda like that feel. I really love PATD’s early work, better than their new stuff. Pretty Odd is a great album. Also I love the demo of Nearly Witches. I love the original but I heard the demo and I’m like “this is even better.” I had no clue about this lost album so thanks for making this video

was snooping around to find anything I could about cricket and clover and this video taped a bit of that eagerness in me up. You explained the whole thing so well

As a hardcore panic fan, I’d die to have this album in its entirety. I love pretty odd, but it needed more, and C&C would’ve been a perfect tie in/prequel

"To hell with our guitars." They burned one alive you know

I was such a huge fan of P!ATD (still am) back in the day and I've never heard of this, wow. I'd love to hear any sort of recordings if the hard drive Brendon mentioned is real. I also found it weird that they dropped the exclamation point with Pretty. Odd. too.

I can't help thinking of "from a mountain in the middle of the cabins" in relation to cricket and clover

Your playing Northern Downpour in the background gave me the big sleepies. Thanks. It’s pleasant.

Super glad you made another video about music. Your last one about the white tie affair was one of my favorites.

I didn’t know that the nearly witches demo was from cabin album !! wtf !!!!!!!

3:33 Ryan also summing up his solo career.

I want to mention that, while "It's True Love" hasn't been released officially, an album Brendon Urie was apart of has a song titled "It's True Love". 'Razia's Shadow' by Forgive Durden has it as the ninth track. It is a rock opera, and Brendon plays one fo the characters. Just so happens that that album came out in 2008. Conincidence???

i audibly gasped at the “fill me up with porridge” because the first thing my mind thought of was “ryan was kneeling in the bathtub”

Thank you for this! I’m a big fan of Panic! but I had never heard of the cabin album until a few days ago. I found the same comment on the Reddit thread that you included in this video, and after some digging I found a scan of the Kerrang interview on a Portuguese fan site and translated it. I was wondering if anybody else had discovered this interview because I had yet to hear anything about it, but I just found your video and you covered everything perfectly! I wish we could all hear Cricket and Clover. It would be fascinating to listen to it after all these years, and to see just how far they’ve come music wise. Who knows, maybe someday somebody will find the hard drive! :)

It sounds like Cricket & Clover was just the result of an insane amount of drugs. I'm glad that Pretty Odd was the final result cause it fucking rules

The moment I saw the notification, I went "Let's keep these teen hearts beating FASTER, FASTER!"

And also, the way they tried to make the songs reminds me of how The Moody Blues did some of their albums, since some of them had songs that went into eachother and told a story. For example, House of Four Doors is a 2 Part song, Ride My Seesaw has a beginning part that goes into the next, and theirs plenty more. I do wish we got the album, it seems like it could have been great! Hope they release the songs they had.

i vaugley remember hearing about this when i was younger, i hope we can uncover thisI was one of those few people who actually did like the album Pretty Odd, it had that Beatles esq vibe to it and i adored it so much, so just knowing there is an untold story of an album somewhere out there in the world? chills...

Fans got the Justice League Snyder Cut to release maybe they can also get the Panic at the Disco Cricket and Clover album to release

We really need Pete to return the favor and do a drunk history of P!ATD I feel like it could uncover a lot

I love nearly witches and I’m glad they released it and made vices, although it was a hard time, I love the album so much

I loved the band for what fun they had. How they seemed like such close friends. This lost album is a good example of that. Maybe its just right to keep this album never to be seen by daylight. Its a treasure that will only be considered as treasure when its not found, and i like that. Atleast we know on those songs were guys having fun in their youth somewhere on a hard drive inside someones basement.

I'm not usually the type of person to click on videos like these but I'm really glad I did! really well thought out and interesting! awesome job dude :)

You’ve become my FAVORITE RU-vidr. You put so much work into your videos, and they’re so interesting. Thank you for posting this 💖

“It’s the end of the electric guitar era” ~ George Ryan Ross

Why are so many lost medias experimental and conceptual? This is why my prog-loving wife can't find anything good

Im such trash that i went on a witch hunt for this album, later to find out that it was never released, the only evidence that it existed was that Ryan Ross had writed lyrics on paper and there was a photo leaked about it.

I hope we get to some day hear what this album might have sounded like

This whole concept of lost albums is really fascinating to me. Good video!

this is a really cool video, and it's interesting to know that "folkin' around' got used as a song title on pretty odd. (which is my favorite album by the way) also jon tweeting about cricket and clover demos has the entire panic fandom shook

Missed you man, glad to see ya again

Woah woah woah. Can I just point out something *VERY IMPORTANT*. In Ryan Ross' recent interview with CrankThatFrank, he says that he has the Cricket And Clover demo's. But he just isn't allowed to release them. So the album does still exist but not publicly. He is a pretty loyal friend though because despite him leaving the band he still keeps them private. Also he did say he wanted to release them as well.

I don't listen to panic! anymore but this fascinated me

Pretty. Odd. Is my favourite panic album and I've always wondered why it's so weird, this really explains stuff. It's amazing to hear that they were making a different album. I hope that Brendon can find the hard drive or the demo that Jon found can see the light of day. I'm seeing panic in March and I honestly would love it if Brendon could play something off pretty odd.

You included a clip from my channel in this video, thank you! :-)

1:00 might i add that i appreciate that 'piano knows something i dont know' intro.

I had read about this previously. How i longed for more answers to this list record. You just earned a subscriber.

I was a fan from Fever, which makes me feel absolutely ancient now 😂 Honestly everything Panic! Ever made is gold, even the Pretty Odd album is amazing in its own way!

this is very interesting. i didn’t know about this at all. really great video! 👍

Ryan actually has a copy of Cricket and clover. Search up his interview with Ryan.

ryan ross said in an interview with crankthatfrank that he had the songs on a hard drive

My first concert ever was the “Pray For The Wicked” last Friday and it was amazing. I definitely recommend going

ryan ross just says he has it in an interview!!!!

Thanks for making this, I've been waiting to find something about the lost album

0:30 According to the other members of Panic!, Brent was not a writer on A Fever You Can't Sweat Out.

This was such a good video idea, amazing job!!!. I’m by no means an “old” panic fan (I’ve been listening for 5 years though) but I’ve done digging in panics history for sure and wish this album could’ve came about, but maybe it’s okay that it didn’t. I’d still love to hear it and I wish new fans knew about this album that could’ve been!

I was a hardcore fan from 2005-2009 so it’s interesting to remember these things I’d forgotten about being a fan like when they played true love. I remember a lot of confusion in waiting for pretty. Odd. And being so relieved and happy when it came out. Good times

i think i saw somwhere that "when the day met the night" was supposed to be on cricket and clover- didn't they performe it live just before they scrapped the album? it was under another name like in the middle of summer or somth

I've seen them once and it was at a pop up with 400 people. Real underground. Met Zack, got in for free. Seeing them at a big show in February :)

im suprised you dug deep enough to find this and avoid the fanon around the hotel note

A fever you cant sweat out was a modern masterpiece

6:53 I don't think Brendon _can_ be straight with us

i don’t think that panic! went the way we all thought, like A -> C. i think that though the difference between fever and pretty odd was drastic, the cabin album was the B part that the fans never saw. because of that, we just thought the creative process completely changed. the snippets of songs from the cabin album have elements of both fever and pretty odd, like nearly witches, a very upbeat, burlesque-pop type of song, and others, like it’s true love, carry some elements of both pretty odd and fever. so basically, if they did end up completing cricket and clover, or if jon ever releases the demos, then we might be able to see the thought process and finally see the A -> B -> C that we missed.

I love almost anything from all of Panic's albums but my favorite song has to be "Sarah Smiles" from the Vices and Virtues album

Ryan said in the CrankThatFrank interview (2019) that he had the demos for Cricket and Clover, but it wasn't up to him to release them. He also said that Jon would have gotten into trouble if he had posted them. Sorry if someone else has already said this.

In an interview with frank that crank recently Ryan said that he has cricket and clover, the phrasing was vague but it seems like he's put it together in its entirety (which could very well be like five songs lol)

no way you made a panic! video i just started picking up your channel again when i got into panic! at the disco again ahhhhh!

If you're going to do more music related content, is there anything you can find on mcr? Also while I know you hate relying on wikis, but wikipedia says nine in the afternoon is hold-over; any truth to this?

Nearly witches is one of my favourite songs so I want this album so much

and we thought they were high when they wrote pretty odd lmao

One of my favorite youtubers and one of my favorite artists! Great video dude!

yeah, i’m pretty sure a lot of c&c was lost along with ryan ross’s computer, i can’t remember if it was stolen or destroyed but it’s definitely gone

Oof i feel shit for being a hardcore panic fan, even going to concerts, buying merch, and not knowing of this albums existence. Makes me sad tbh. I love lost media so much.

It honestly hurts so bad that we’ll never get to hear this

I saw this youtuber made a P!ATD video and got excited because I love them both so much.

I hope one day we can hear cricket and clover🤧

Pretty odd Is my favorite album from any band ever. I don't like the other panic songs ,its just so pretty

oh my gOd i’m only 1 minute into the video and i’m already hyped my favorite youtuber and my favorite band? yes pls

I don't know why, but thinking about cricket and clover always makes my want to cry.