The Mystery of TF2's 10th Class 

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Obviously the 10th class is the mysterious character Random.

Honestly I'm glad TF2 decided to stick with the core classes instead of just adding more just for the sake of adding... look at Overwatch.

The Guarddog is canon, he just keeps being sent to the wrong map

Everyone knows the 10th class died after an error with the Respawn Machine. His last words were “It’s eternity in there!” If ya get the reference, good!

It definitely was the right decision to not add more classes but to add new ways of playing each class. Not only did it keep you engaged with the actual characters, but it was just as good as a whole new character with the different playstyles. It's no doubt a factor as to why tf2's playerbase keeps coming back.

There was actually a 10th class reference in Emesis Blue, when Jules said something about 10 mercs, but then the 10th one shot himself, so there was 9 mercs left.

Hearing about the 10th class hits different after watching Emesis Blue.

My favorite interpretation of the 10th class was the one in Emesis Blue. The idea that he could've been, but wasn't, made him very intriguing and further added mystery to the tenth class.

Always found the concept of the civilian quite interesting

Imagine being a pocket medic to a guard dog

I kinda have this idea in my head: The Janitor -Melee only support class -Cleans the floor and leaves a clean trail for buffs and debuffs for your team and the enemy respectively

From what I understand the tenth class comes from the early development of TF2, the one that was going to be a version that gave orders to the other 9 classes. This version was going to be a war game of humans vs aliens. Think Half-Life 7 hour war.

Maybe the 10th class was the friends we made in the way

There was a 10th class called Madcap, it was really cool class and design, very OP though, wish Valve would readd him to the game

Knowing Richter's track record, they're gonna announce an update with the 10th class next week.

The events of emesis blue are now the canonical reasoning why we have no tenth class

Something a friend of mine told me that I've held to... We've always had a tenth class, we just couldn't ever play them. In every game, constantly in our ears and subtly affecting the match, suspiciously clad in purple... and named like a class. The Administrator.

I'm surprised you never mentioned the Commander class, since Robin Walker talked about it during Developer Commentary. He would have an RTS view of the map and would create strategies, build structures and other "big" decisions for the rest of the team. However, for many of the reasons the Civilian was axed, the Commander also got the axe.

This is the only sponsor advertisement I have watched with a smile. It felt like Richter had fun making it. "Keep your sentry busters fresh"

TF2 Classic has a VIP mode with its own 10th class, that being the Civilian. Might actually be the most toxic gamemode though since Civvies who die are often yelled at by their team. No one wants to baby sit and no one wants to be babysitted.

There is also the commander\observer class that has been more or less been morphed into the spectator mode in the sdks code. There are still references to it though.

Fun fact: merasmus was meant to be the 10th class but was replaced by the random class selector.

I liked the idea of the 10th class so much that I wrote a fanfiction of it when I was a freshman in high school. Then I rewrote it... now it's at 80k. Dunno if a Thief is a good class idea, but I ran with it anyway.

Well, I've been playing TF2C a lot, and Valve's thoughts about the civilian were definitely accurate. He is pretty much just a payload that you can backstab, and he has the ability to singlehandedly throw the game for his team by doing something stupid (which he often does). VIP is a funny novelty and it makes Spy a little more interesting to play, but Payload is absolutely the superior mode.

About the Female Texture My best guess is that in some Maps NPC'S would have been a thing where They would help a team interract with one or maybe She was An early version of Miss pauline

the tf2 class 10th is madcap

Saxton Hale is now the 10th class

Then 3 months later we genuinely got a 10th playable character as saxton hale

thank you so much for putting some light into this, i feel like nobody knows how much valve had planned for the civilian

I had an idea for a 10th class, its been an idea I had for a while. Who happens to be female but disguises herself as a male, believing MannCo would never hire her for being a female merc. She wears an outfit of a typical mountain man would wear, the raccoon hat and an outfit made of leather and suede. That class being the Fur Trapper, or Trapper for short. She is able to make holes in the ground where enemies fall into, or nets to capture enemies in trees or buildings. She can hide in camouflage, bushes and trees. Her primary weapon would be a bow gun or bow and arrow. I even wrote fan fics back in the day with this character. If only I knew how to mod TF 2 characters, I would love to make a "Meet the Fur Trapper" video.

4:14 Hey, there we are! I was on that server when you joined and voted you into being the civilian after you wanted to load into a VIP map! Good times. (Don't take that session too seriously, glad you got the footage you needed.)

Only real ones remember the madcap

I love this, mostly due to getting done watching emesis blue and hearing the one phone call where they bring up that ten people were compatible with the respawn machine

“Collect all 10” might’ve been a joke for a Tenth Class that not Exist.

Emesis blue actually talks a bit about how when testing respawn they found ten people who were compatible with respawn but something happened to the 10th which led to there being only 9

I always wondered if some of the more unique sub-classes like demoknight or huntsman sniper started off as concepts for a 10th class. Especially demoknight, full demoknight is pretty unrecognizable to the normal demoman playstyle

The idea of a Ms. Pauling class seems quite unique, actually. I imagined a class like that to have some tablet and drones as their main utility, used to look for important things i.e. sentry nests, does the enemy medic have Uber, how many enemies are on the point, etc, which would be transmitted to the mercs via a screen similar to the contracter one manually by the player. Basically once something important is found the player has to choose a category of information, what they want to transmit and the location with the mouse wheel, then it is told to the entire team. For example after finding a sentry nest on last on Badwater the player does the Enemy utilities ---> Sentry Nest ---> Last Point ---> Enter. The catch here is that only 1 drone could be sent at a time, they would take 1-2 shots to take down, the player can't move or use other weapons while scouting and the transmition takes a few seconds. After the drone is down, the player has to take 2 100-metal packs or wait at a dispenser to recharge the "drone" meter. Once the scouting is done, the drone can be used as a kamikaze weapon that deals explosive damage via self-destruction, or safely returned to the player. For secondary weapons I could see the double-shot pistol she has in Expiration Date as a self-defense weapon. Melee could either be an axe (like in exp. date) or anything, really. The main downside of the class is that she has 100 health and the same running speed as the Medic. As for unlockable weapons there could be: - different types of drones that vary in speed, health, transmition speed. - different pistols - different melees, etc. There could maybe even be a "Kamikaze Pauling" subclass which camps dispensers, never gives info and uses the drones exclusively to harass Medics and Engineers. This would definetely become the most irritating subclass ever, period. This definetely won't be added, but it could be a nice addition to the game to be honest.

TF2 lore is the greatest treat we have on RU-vid. The comfort and fascination it brings me is equal to Minecraft lore and Internet iceberg lore lol

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I actually had a dream recently that there was a 10th TF2 class called The Bomber who was canonically from Cuba.

we all know the 10th class was madcap

At this point I consider emesis blue canon, so I'll just follow its story, the tenth class shot himself after going through the respawn machine and seeing disturbing things.

I used to really want the Guard Dog to be added, but I can see how busted it would have been. It'd basically be a super small hard to hit scout with a sentry attached to it. Regular Scout is already arguably one of the hardest to hit characters in multiplayer FPS history. There's also the whole deal where it'd be a bit disheartening to blow up and set fire to dogs running around the map.

Saxton Hale is the 10th class now.

Another possiblity for the female head texture could possibly be Scout's mother. We don't have any official models of her as of today.

Come on, guys, we all know sandvich is the 10th class

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A concept idea I had for a extra tf2 class was called "the skater" basically it was a guy with a skateboard that's could ride around the map and hit people with the board. if you jumped onto a rocket you could ride it for a short time before falling off.i don't have much for it anymore as I thought of it back when people were freaking out about jungle inferno just thought of the idea after watching the video. P.s common overtime W

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if they do add another class it should be saxton hale or miss pauline, or the guard dog, or all of them lol

The guard dog def seems like it would be a horrible update, but the maps looked cool especially the train one

i'd argue that those other class design might've been added in one form or another just look at some of the subclasses we have today. demoknight is probably the most notable example but other stuff like the banners might've been part a different class entirely. it wouldn't be a 1 to 1 transplant of mechanics as we see today but it would have evolved look at how airblast for pyro was originally implemented it was a weapon for scout that would allow him to catch projectiles that he could throw back at his own discretion. then valve realized that it didn't fit scouts gameplay and scrapped it until they decided it would work for the pyro.

talk about the madcap. please

had an idea for the tenth class myself, basically "The Collector" is an older gentlemen, kinda like the spy but without a mask, probably bulkier too, and his ability was that he can pick up any of the weapons dropped by dead players, he does have some simple weapons, i was thinking his starter weapons were a musket, a 2 shot pocket pistol, and a military issued knife, anyways he was supposed to be a weird mixed class where you could basically do anything with him if you had the guns for it, it would be interesting to see how he would play, although i feel like theres alot of issues, like animating his hands and character with all the classes weapons, and voicelines. Probably more but who knowns.

Something about unused game content has given me the creeps since i was a little kid, it was like a liminal feeling, but with something else...

The tf2classic Civilian is so well done, especially with the voice acting- he melds so seamlessly with the game.

Honestly, demo knight is the closest we got to a tenth class due to how much variety there is to the subclass

Wasn't there going to be a 10th class that was going to be a counter to Pyro called like the aviator? He could like triple jump and had a bucket of water and dressed like some 1920s pilot? I swear to god I saw concept art of this years ago and tried to look it up but couldn't find anything a few days ago

I would hate the guard dog class. It would be son incredibly unbalanced because of how cute it is. I don't care if it's ripping my throat out or gunning me down it's so cute and I can't kill it or stand to watch it be killed.

I like to think the guard dog would be a good all-around short-range 4th support class, with the ability to refill secondaries (sandvich, jarate, maybe even mad milk), give ammo to engies or some other classes, and have the speed second only to the Scout so he (or she, we love good strong girls around here, too) could get to any player quickly. With a potential "grab" mechanic to slow characters, but would have... middling health (probably 150 like the medic or battle engi). He'd have "pistol"-like weapon that could maybe fire in short bursts that could pepper enemies, and a bite for offense, but that's probably it.

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My favorite interpretation of the 10 class was a merc who was a jack of all trades sort of thing. Being able to pick up some of the other classes’ weapons

At a guess the tenth class would've been the one missing weapon type in TF2's arsenal, the automatic rifle. It'd probably have been the middle ground between Heavy and SMG Sniper, and wasn't implemented in the game because it was ultimately considered too generic to be worth putting in alongside the original nine.

Ever since I watched the emesis blue tf2 movie, I started thinking that the 10th respawn compatible was the 10th class who really had a dark fate in the beginning of the movie

love the clip of demo shooting at the sniper nest, and just before he detonates, they are both like "oh shit"

There he is… Jules Archibald

In a way we did end up getting a 10th class, or at least the equivalent of one. The Demoknight subclass is the most drastically different from the base class it's derived from. It plays so completely differently from base Demoman that it's not unreasonable to consider it an entirely different playable class from a gameplay perspective, and they've even treated it somewhat like a full class by giving it multiple loadout options.

Good informative video, Please post more man you deserve more subs. I actually really like the editing style aswell

If you would be a real og you would remember madcap best character I a game

The 10th class came, it’s called demo knight. The new weapons added all new classses basically. Mini sentry attack engi for example

Look I appear in 4:14 on the voice chat! It was so fun to play with Richter Overtime that day, he even talk to me! As always great video! :D

As creative the guard dogfan art was and ignoring the balance issues it could create, I don't want to blow up with a dog, no matter how cartooniy the violence

I remember reading it somewhere that the biggest issue with a 10th class would be the balancing it and the other classes accordingly. Then, you'd have to deal with the thousands of hats, voice lines and some taunts as well.

What about the mad-

Surprised you never talked about The Commander from TF2's development. Which is talked about in the developer commentary for the game.

I honestly dong want another class. I think the 9 we have are too iconic to have a new one.

MadCap

Unfortunately I really joined Tf2 after jungle inferno but I have heard of it before then. I would love to see how it felt to be in the golden area of Tf2 ( maybe some youtuber who has played sense launch could make a video on there experience of the past Tf2 )

"Imagine this" _proceeds to describe the most unimaginable thing for a pc gamer_

It is, we're back at it, the TF2 golden era

Add MadCap

Imagine if Valve one day just skips over the 10th class and adds the 11th class

The 10th class was the friends we made along the way :)

8:23 maybye it's zhanna, heavy's sister and soldiers gf?

I'd love to see a team colored Recruit and Civilian class.

The 10th class is like the 5th beatle

Emesis blues test subject for the respawn trials has left the chat

Who would have predicted that Saxton Hale would have been in our 10th class🎉

Sadly I didn't experience the "golden age" of TF2 as I was too young, and didn't even know what steam was! I'm happy I get to play it now, and HOPEFULLY SOMETHING MAJOR is added!

The first thing in VIP mode that came up to my mind before you even brought it up was to troll the escorting team by going to the enemy team, no wonder they cancelled it 💀💀💀💀

The assaulter -assault riffle -Ammo (use it to refil ammo or throw to team mates or enemies (like the sandwitch) -Chair leg

Guys we need a blood sacrifice to summon the tenth class

The 9 classes are enough... But I still want my dog.

I did make on a 10th class concept, a portal-themed class. We really want a Portal-themed update! :p

You completely went over the concept of the commander class, the code for a few aspects of it still exist in the coaching system that nobody uses. It was meant to work as a RTS style team leader, something like in the natural selection series.

If you watch emesis blu well you can find him saying "My eyes hurt" so that means he's the 10th mercenary

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To be honest it would be cool to have the tf2classic civilian put into the main game with the added gamemodes