The Mystery Of The UNBREAKABLE World Record 

Yeah, just like everybody else...

@@FarbenSeher Well, yes and no. The Eastern Bloc had offical state-sponsored programs for this shit.

Til Linderman, the lead singer of Rammstein was a competitive swimmer in his youth and he detailed how the cocktails on drugs he was given fucked up his system for a long time.

@@FarbenSeher No, not even close.

​@Stierlitz exactly. While there is no doubt that western athletes were on the roids, they did them individually, they didn't have the weight of a countries medical and security apparatus to ensure they got the cutting edge drugs and the best way to avoid getting caught

I completely agree. Even if Marita Koch was on steroids at this time, apparently everyone else was too, and she still won a 400m race by about 50m. She was a remarkable runner either way.

​@@lornarettig3215 Everyone dopes even to this day... just not with steroids as much

no one is questioning that 😂 I could never run 400m in 47.60s only if I trained like for years. She was special, so special in fact that doing doping would make the most sense to solidify results

mausilugner - So wahat?

I saw it reported that the East Germans estimated the effects of doping to be worth 4 seconds over 400m.

Well, Secretariat was a freak of nature. His heart was twice as large as other race horses. His lungs were larger too. He could pump way more blood and oxygen as other horses. The 1973 Belmont Stakes (which I watched live on TV) was the greatest sporting even in history, in my opinion. If you watch it on RU-vid, take note of what happens in the back stretch. He's neck and neck with Sham, then something amazing happens. Secretariat suddenly puts himself in a totally different gear, his legs start stretching out, he starts pulling effortlessly away from Sham. He and Sham were already WAY ahead of the other horses by this time, and yet Secretariat was just warming up. He was, and is the greatest athlete to ever live!!

She wasn’t, she clearly self-destructed on the final 50 meters. She was basically running a 300 meter race and winged the rest.

Even to set a PR (personal record) one needs to run a faster second half split.

@@ironcladranchandforge7292 - APPLES to oranges. Give it a break. Stick to humans here. LoL.

@@machtnichtsseimann -- No.

koch went off far too quickly and ran sub 23 for the first 200, had she ran a negative split out of the blocks probs would have gone under 47s as she faded badly in the last 60m or so.

Please be more clear - what exactly did Lyudmila admit and die young, is it that you saw her in Oregon, or that you were a distance runner?

Don't forget the track and altitude : the fact the best time Koch achieved the year before and after, was the same, gives away the importance of having an ideal track, when new, for a fast time.

The fact that she was doping has been proven. There are East German records that detail the doping. 7:35 ....FINALLY .....gets to "performance enhancing drugs". "Overwhelming evidence which suggests a governmental state sponsored building program. And over the years, many athletes have actually come forward, admitting it's doping." So the East German scientists figure out how to hide the many drugs used ...making them undetectable at that time. These training records have been published showing this activity .....there should be no "statute of limitations" to stripping ALL records ......particularly when there was INTENT ......which very clearly there was. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marita_Koch "The documents list the dosage and timetables for the administration of anabolic steroids to many athletes of the former DDR, with one of them being Marita Koch. According to the sources, Koch did use the anabolic steroid Oral-Turinabol (4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) from 1981 to 1984 with dosages ranging from 530 to 1460 mg/year." There is one other factor. Marita Koch does NOT appear to have the typical female body structure. She has no "hips" and has much wider shoulders than most every female. The muscle mass all over, particularly in the thighs and shoulders for driving when she is running is very clearly over-developed ....yet lean. She is the ideal candidate for doping. It's too bad she would not admit to cheating. It shows her character .....untrustworthy. She is not deserving of any respect ....and the same applies to the Olympic organization. .

But Koch wasn’t a muscle monster. So whatever she took probably did a lot for her blood oxygen levels etc. but it wasn’t your classical steroid case.

Very very salient point. It is my view that this fact in addition to being doped to her eyebrows is why this record WILL NEVER EVER be broken or even approached.

Altitude is a point almost no one realizes, also, it was a brand new super quick track on which even club runners had run stunning times just a few days prior to the WC meet.

Same argument to the Mexico City Olympics...... it's an old argument.

​@@SuperChuckRaney 1900' in Canberra is nothing compared to Mexico City's 6800', and likely gives only a negligible advantage

@@markcaporale2559 The advantage would be training there and then running at a much lower altitude immediately after. Granted though, if you are not used to the altitude you will not do well, but that would be a case of underperforming until you got acclimatized to your "normal" self.

I wonder how amazing those Krauts would be without the juice. Ditto the DDR swimmers. Deutschland Doping Republic. Fits.

All of them cheaters

it's a guy.

She still has the WR and is denying using drugs. Would she admit to it like her teammates if she didn't still hold the World Record ?

@@Scalaflow Given the compensation scheme for athletes who suffered from forced drug usage is tiny, the benefits from having the World Record far outweigh them. No reason for her to admit anything.

Well, this one is about a race FloJo was not in, so why should he. FloJo was absolutely doped, and doping was prevalent already at college level in USA. Several athletes from Norway that went to USA to study, were later caught with doping, especially throwers.

@@bjornlangoren3002he is saying he didn’t mention them in videos about the other two.

He never mentions it 'cause "Murica". Pretty obvious.

Yes but they will tell you that in East Germany they stressed athletics more than other countries and that's why they were so good, same thing that Jamaica says now.

But the U.S. was dominating from 1896-1960....Before PED's

santa monica track club was bad

Well not better than Flo Jo's chemists atleast.

@jimfrazier8611 LOL good one (and probably true). They were just ahead of the times though, when we see things today.

Yes, quite similarly if you would study the physique of the Chinese female swimmers of those times, you'll see structures of male athletes on them. One of the names I still remember is Lin Li though she's towards the latter part of the 80s and mid 90s.

Not 1984. Communist😢country did not partecipate

1988...the Americans were juiced up to the hilt too!

Well she sure was *on* something special

@@paulinehannon4514 Yeah, I wasn't trying to absolve the Americans; pretty much everyone was juicing.

@jgray2718 yep!...but the east Germans are used as the scapegoat... East Germany had a state sponsored programme of steroid use ...many athletes weren't aware of what they were taking ...till it was too late . You can't scrap world records...because so many athletes worldwide were on Something '. .

@@jgray2718 She just identified as a man. So progressive...so brave. 😐

what about for example Miller-Uibo or Marileidy Paulino? how are they looking?

@@elmulakke The problem continues in countries all over the world. In recent years, the long-distance running program of African runners has been investigated and the extent of the doping problem surprised the world. What happens is that the sport associated with the doping issues suffers and as prize money and endorsement deals continue to increase, so has the temptation of other athletes, in all sports, to use performance enhancing drugs. Sadly, the result has been a public loss of interest in the sports and the toll it has taken on the athletes who didn't know about the long term effects has taken many lives of the athletes long before they should have died. The PEDs are becoming more advanced and harder to detect, or taken during times when the athletes are not checked. In many countries, the agencies that are in charge of checking the top athletes have become involved in the problem.

Not encouraged. The usage of drug regimes was non-negotiable.

@@littleblackpistol same like today.

It's also entirely possible that that was a man's body, transformed to be a woman's...

She yelling out FAST TIMES

@@williamgrierson4133 As natural as Flo Jo

@@williamgrierson4133brilliant comment So many missed it

Cry, Cry

Then he isn't either

that would make for a boring ass video

Yep, they were all at it. Renate Stecher and Barbel Wochtl were the other two of the triumvirate. East Germany dominated women's athletics. If you didn't know that they were busted years ago the fact that German women are now useless in world terms tells you all you need to know. I don't understand why these "records" are allowed to stand.

He covers that

There are still some issues. 1) It looks like she didn't suffer any of the major side effects. 2) Turinabol is a milder steroid than Jarmila, who looked like a man. Yet she was still faster 3) Many users were given it and told they were vitamin. If she were one of them, she would not know. 4) Torinabol stays in your system longer along with being milder. Does it give much more of an advantage than HGH? Doubt it. 5) Being the fastest of a bunch of drug takers is still impressive. Similar to Ben Johnson and Mark McGwire. 6) By now someone should've beat this record with the advancement in track technology, nutrition, equipment, foot wear, training, etc. Ben Johnson mark's was supposed to be untouchable but Bolt, Blake and Gay matched or better it. Powell got close. The fact nobody is close now puts her in the same athletic freak category as FloJo except she did it for so many years.

@@zk4761 "5) Being the fastest of a bunch of drug takers is still impressive. Similar to Ben Johnson and Mark McGwire." Nope

ye...she looked like well build man

Both dope

​@@honzatoman3602 obv she's juiced to the gills but that build she has kinda exists right in women sports? That Russian runner sticks out like a sore thumb

Right!!!

Jarmila didn't took steroids....she was natural doped...to much testosterone

This is a bit like weightlifting. Most records were set in the 80's by eastern bloc countries. They have re-arranged the weight classes to nullify these but outside of a few exceptions almost all the best lifts were done during this era. Lifters like Lasha who were also caught using PED's aren't able to use the same types of drugs and for the duration that those athletes were. Kind of impressive he was able to match those all time lifts on lesser PED use I guess.

What do you really "know"? Western state propaganda? Come on - they are always lying

Steroids give ur head a shake 💪

Yes but were they all women?

As were the world records in long jump, high jump, shot put, discus, 4x400, and heptathlon. Since then the javelin has been changed and hammer, pole vault, and triple jump were not events at worlds or Olympics.

Just like today.

@@thebigpicture2032 oh yes…greatest dopers of all time are in contemporary times :)

Obsolete by today's standards.

@@thebigpicture2032 Today's drugs don't seem as good

@@Teucer9 true, queludes were da bomb!

Carl Lewis

I don't care what Ben Johnson was on as that was one of the most amazing 100's I've ever seen.

The difference was the doping in East Germany was state sponsored and universal.

@@stevenleslie8557 Doping may not have been sponsored by the US government but it was just as widespread and condoned by officials. Just ask Carl Lewis who, by his own admission, tested positive three times at the 1988 US Olympics trials yet was allowed to go to the Olympics two months later. Remember, he's the guy who was awarded the gold medal in the 100m when Ben Johnson was disqualified for doping. Speaking of American athletes, Lewis also said "There were hundreds of people getting off. Everyone was treated the same."

@@luciebrisson5881 I can't argue with that

And her 42 year old indoor record got broken this year by Bol.

She was also the front man for the Who.

@@jamezkpal2361 🤣

It is one of the few races in which MARITA KOCH. He didn't put his head into the finish line. If he had done so, he would have dropped the 48

She??

💯

Erm.......no it doesn't !

Do u know what "rhymes" means??

@@jasondearham8243 Are you sure you want an answer? OK: it refers to the fact that two words end in a similar sequence of syllables, where said sequence starts with the final stressed syllable and includes all remaining syllables. In this stricter definition of rhyme, the sequences sound similar and have also the same spelling. In a looser rhyme, in spite of different spelling, they sound similar, as in the case I presented, and also in the case of a lot of popular songwriting. I hope this satisfies your curiosity. Cheers. PS: And it’s not “u”, it’s “you”. If you’re going to be picky about language, at least use a higher standard of writing.

I agree that Koch's physical appearance is not eye-popping and obviously suspicious in the same way as Kratochvilova. She was also a dominant performer, and perennial record breaker throughout her career, unlike Flo-Jo who underwent a sudden and massive improvement, before disappearing out of sight. However, it is simply impossible to look objectively at the evidence that has come to light about state-sponsored doping in the GDR during that era, and believe Koch was clean. I do believe she was an exceptional athlete in her own right, and grew up in an environment which - aside from any drugs - was focused single mindedly on identifying and grooming world class athletes, at the expense of all else in the athlete's life. The West could not compete with this brutal dedication. But yes, the PEDs were very likely what then made the difference between 'extremely good/talented' and 'best ever'.

@@bram99494 What im saying is that after the reunification of germany all this started to become evidenced. That will never happen for Flo Jo or Carl Lewis despite the whole world knowing they were definitely at it. I do feel sorry for the sprinters in particular. Gohr or Koch never looked pumped like Flo Jo. Not to mention the gold going to Kondratseyeva at Moscow still not convinced Gohr lost. They had no choice or knowledge if they were doped certainly before the weight of the nation was on them and those that refused to continue suffered at the GDR discarding them like trash. I also feel for Lance Armstrong despite all his denials etc even Marion Jones. I find it hard to believe anyone was clean in that Tour era. The pressure for a small nation like GDR or the massive money, sponsors etc that came with being Carl Lewis or Jones, armstrong and a massive expecting US public its understandable they were under huge pressure to shut up. I feel these records should stand. Koch 400m will go sometime, and all the rest. I believe Koch and Gohr were exceptional, no one says Evelyn Ashford was doping yet she clearly overtook Gohr after Helsinki. Its as simple as this. No positive test no crime. We cant have Eastern Bloc athletes whose nations became westernized penalised because it was opened to the media while the US,UK,EU PR machine keeps our athletes 70s,80s doping under the carpet. Allan Wells was my hero as a kid and he looked pumped and id bet hes the last white guy who will ever t win Olympic Gold at 100m.

Why is Wells skin color so important to you? He won in 1980 with the slowest winning time since 1956. 😂😂😂

@@May-ve6sr must be I'm a racist then.

Both are doping cheats

@@pedropelaez yup

@@pedropelaezFlo Jo still had perfect form. She has the most technically perfect form ever.

Speculation@@pedropelaez

@@pedropelaezI bet you most all of them are doing the same thing. I doubt any of the, are completely clean.

wow, smoking gun there. I didn't read it but it's being saved by NIH so not just some dubious magazine article somewhere.

That would put her at the equivalent of an 18-25 year old man. I'm most impressed by the dose. High but not crazy high where health problems or over masculinization would emerge. Very conservative edge.

​​​@@miltkarr5109you contradicted yourself...yes very conservative edge at best. Oral turinabol was the weak version of dbol...even if she was on the higher end as documented it was a low hit.. it didn't make her equivalent to an 18 to 25 male...The 1460mg for the yr possibly cycled into months but still low

Your mother uses oral steroids 😂

Look at her prominant adam’s apple(thyroid cartilege) she was using anabolic steroids since she was about 18. 🙄

5:09 she was onto something special. All this consistency and then wham, maybe she was ON something special. Armpit hair....tasty

Well of course as they are all using Drugs.

Every record, since the 80's, from any nation should be suspect. PEDs are endemic, the difference between then and now is better understanding of how to avoid testing positive.

Not just suspect any more. We have the actual GDR data which identifies all of the athletes and what junk they were forced to take. They were all forcibly doped without any consideration to their health. Tokens for the glorification of the regime.

As should any U.S. WR held from the 80s-90s.. ask David Jenkins

One thing that astonishes me about the 800 meter WR is that it was set with slightly negative splits (56.82 and 56.46, with a very fast last 100) indicating that it could have been quite a bit faster with better pacing.

You’ve got my vote 👍🏾

@@WithBACON I think that negative split was actually the best possible pacing in this situation. She wanted to take place in a 200m race, but had an injury that didn't allow a fast acceleration which allowed her to not start the 800m race too hard, allowing that negative split world record.

@@jojolords4523 Generally speaking, the way to run 800 meters as fast as possible (at the world-class level) is to have the 1st lap about 2-3 seconds faster than the second. This holds true for women as well as men. In this race ideal pacing would have been something like 27-28-28.5-29. JK's 200 PR was 21.97; obviously an opening 200 in the 27 range (or slightly faster) would not have been a problem.

@@WithBACONyou have to also remember the 800n WR holder could also run 48s 400m the first lap must have felt like a slightly harder jog to her hence the negative spilt

Particularly for women. Men already have lots of testosterone, so steroids will give them a little boost. For women, it’s a massive boost. That’s why it’s the women’s records that still hold.

Ahhh I see so nobody used drugs in the last 30 to 40 years since then?

that includes griffith joyner.........10,49 at 100 meters ?...............

nowadays they dope too, or do you think they are all clean? what you think about Miller-Uibo or Marileidy Paulino?

Still impressive

@@TfortLo-q8m dope impressive

А американцы питались только святым духом? О , Ха- Ха- ха. Просто тогда влияние СССР и США было равным в международных структурах. Льюис в 1988 попадался трижды, ему все сошло с рук. , Гатлин попадался дважды, все сошло с рук. Бегун на 400м Петтигрю признался что принимал допинг и эстафетная команда США лишилась великого рекорда 4 по 400м 254.20 1998( против чего я категорически против) и нескольких титулов чемпионов мира( я тоже против этого) Все были в равных условиях. Но социалистическая система в СССР и ГДР позволяла получить доступ к спорту широким слоям населения и система отбора талантов была лучше чем в США и странах Запада. Кстати в 1984 году американцы вывели из под проверок на допинг 80 проб своих спортсменов и это общеизвестный факт. Да и сам допинг появился в США. Так что не надо ля- ля

Its the same today, but they just use different stuff. Acting like pro athletes are clean today is just dumb. Anyone who understand even in slightest human performance and can read studies and look at the testing records must understand that everyone in pro sports dope today.

Thank you for beating me to this massive fraud that for some reason no one likes to address. All we hear about is FloJo "suspicions" but these Soviet Bloc broads were literally running as pros and doing everything possible to get as fast as possible.

It’s not like they aren’t doping today and with potentially more potent drugs. It was a tremendous run that should stand.

There was also no out of competition testing and the eastern block tested their athletes before any competition. Anyone testing positive withdrew due to a mystery injury.

Do you actually think the U.S. & Europe weren't experimenting with drug use? Come on!

They were on PEDs but the rest you wrote is the fiction.

Exactly. I've been making that same point on these videos. Check out my comment. They were used and abused. I used to hate them but I now feel great pity for them.

Yes they were but FloJo was also on drugs. I propose to get a tennis-like "era division" in athletics. The new era should start from 1989 when random testing has been introduced. I just don't believe anything that happened before that regardless of nationality.

@@bm9504nb12 Remember BALCO ? And the cheating methods available now are designed to exit the body in 30 seconds.

She was a Kochin.

Yeah she has a Kochin her pants

Jamila crakahardon

Records by Coe and his Great Britain teammates Cram and Ovett are certainly suspect. The same is true of Lasse Viren and his Finland teammates as well as many distance runners prior to 1985. Many were lab rats using blood doping but who and to what extent remains unknown. But this became a Europe normal practice once distance runners became aware of Viren's use of blood. This led to the banning in 1985. Of course eventually EPO came around and more cheating and bans. There is one World Championship 1500 where they verified subsequent use of EPO or similar drugs with better testing of saved samples. In that one race 9 of the women were identified as verified cheats with two undergoing final stages of their hearings. This was the first time it brought the focus on African nations. In that race the first clean runner was a Canadian in 3rd place. The next clean runner was an American in 7th place. The problem is nobody can go back and recreate the excitement of the race of what would have happened and giving them medals many years afterwards without a stadium cheering is not justice. Now we have super shoes making a mockery of track. Winners are being created in a lab as Nike, Adidas and other shoe companies acknowledge that they continue to try for technological advancements to give their sponsored runners an unfair advantage. It has gotten so bad that the shoes are now being designed to be broken in and worn by world class distance runners with a short run of 5 to 6 miles. Then to be used in only one race for a marathon, 10K or 5K. This happened in the Chicago Marathon when the World Record was just set. But the governing bodies overseeing track and field like these shoes as it has brought back viewers and money into the sport and great profits for shoe companies. But will the International Olympic Committee allow their use as they are creating fake records which the shoe companies have acknowledged has occured since 2017.

For Coe's 800 meter race form 1981, see the second part of the video at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QhAtzVvRXfI.html

Coe was awesome.

Got his autograph at the Drake Relays in Iowa, USA about that time. There was an Irishman there who was fast as well, OShaunassy or something.

@@philipgates988 Eamonn Coghlan was the best Irish miles back then and they used to call him the chairman of the boards because of his ability to win the indoor mile. The other best Irish runner was John Treacy.

Because literally everyone capable of setting a track and field record is on some kind of juice. We're really gonna pick and choose which juiced athletes are too much and which are just fine?

Yes, all old world records should be erased

Just like every athlete today....

just a genetically superior human

i've had some of my best times and won many events without showing any signs of being warned out. why? the joy takes over and you don't feel any pain.

A man

Everybody knows that the East Germans were dirty. It's not a mystery.

@@gumbi79 ....yet none now from Germany...umm ok.

not many people believe FloJo was clean

Very good observation! And I believe that the (former record holder, and still in 800m.) was running on lane 7 in this race.

The woman who finished second won Olympic Gold in the 1988 400 meter and Olympic Silver in 1992.

yea, goofball voice over all lane 1 got was "slightly challenged by inside""

Also enhanced.

Lane 2 isn't so bad. Lane 8 is the worst in a 400 meter, it's good at the beginning, but the last curve is just a long, long way around.

The difference is since she was an American athlete when I have said the same thing people just want to deny it.

gross.

But we know what got bigger.

If she's not juiced up... she might find it hard.

Yes her or Mboma

@@JappaKneadstrack athletes not juicing !!?!? Yeah that’s just impossible

Yep Sydney or Athing. 👏👏

Bol

Ouch

Yeah.. 😮

You appear to be right.

wells or christie? Drew McMaster Wells Scottish team mate stated that Wells was on it, have no doubt Christie was on the juice as well, runs a 9.87 at 32 but supposedly clean, Johnson does 9.79 with his electrifying start but is the only one juiced, it's BS aint it!

@@tonyfranklin8306 ,Christie ,this fella told me ,he was in the b squad at his athletics club before teaming up with the fella that changed his diet lol and pretty soon after that he was the golden boy ,first world class sprinter since wells ,it's when itv used to screen all the big events ,the Oslo grand Prix etc he said if Christie was running it raised the viewing figures so much as well as sponsors etc the authorities wouldn't dare touch him ,bit like the woman middle distance runner that was a known cheat got caught a couple of times and got off light and ended up getting on the queens honours list lol

@@freddieboxingattkof8111 yup, sport is business, businesses like soccer, rugby union, gridiron, baseball, boxing etc have been doping and will continue to dope as the mechanisms that keep the money rolling in will protect the business no matter who is sacrificed. the odd big name here and there (Johnson particularly) that makes punters think things are clean or the controls are credible to keep things as clean as possible, and also to deflect. That Johnson was the only one supposedly doping in that final was frankly a joke, especially since Lewis was a regular on the naughty step.

She was Olga Bryzgina of Ukraine, yet another Eastern Bloc athlete who was probably doping.

That is still the 4th fastest women’s 400m of all time

@@bram99494that's crazy!!

​@@bram99494that's amazing haha

athletes have much better shoes and tracks now too

"Mean one thing": one meter had 95 cm in the 1980s.

I always maintained even to till this day most top athletes are on something, as the methods for testing improves so does the methods to get around it, a lot of PEDs leave the system very quickly, so cycling on and off at the right time should always be enough to evade given the current regulations.

it still happens they’re just better at hiding it

@@imyourdad09997 Ben Johnson has recntly said that PEDs aren't detectable within 12 hours of taking them now.

flo was definitely on roids too and the wind was like +5 that day

​@@h1dd3n11 Flo was quickly cremated following her unexpected & sudden death. Nothing to see here, folks...Move along...

@@Lifetalk849 After her heart exploded.

@@TheJhtlag 😢

@@h1dd3n11 10:49- if the wind was a factor (which i do not deny) why didn't 2-8 lanes run super times as well

Another drug infested competition.

Carl Lewis was one of the world's biggest drug cheats ever..

The appeal of Ben Johnson revealed the answer. Every athlete in the 1988 Seoul Olympic games was given an endocrine test, hormones go out of balance with gross steroid abuse, 85% failed. Practically every winner, from every country, was an abuser. Given the IOC and IAAF relied on exciting races to attract punters, they had, and have, strong motives to be implicitly compliant. Additionally every country paying the bill was compliant.

Carl Lewis was on HGH his whole career while trumpeting that he was squeaky clean. Sickening.

Americans didn't used to focus on the Olympics...in Bob Beamon's era and before, many Olympians were just good athletes who got encouraged by their coaches or other sports insiders just before the Olympics to give the events they qualified for a shot... that's why America used to complain so loudly about Communist countries doping back in the day.

@@terike9738 Carl Lewis achieved new records in his thirties, past his prime : the only way to account for the improvement would be PEDs.

Because drugs alone don't give you technical skills. Ben Johnson was way faster than Lewis in the first 30 mt but he would have brake his legs trying to jump

@@ZdenekZeman433 The long jump is a peculiar technical event which bans the only biomechanically useful method of countering the rotation induced on takeoff : the somersault. The hang and hitch kick are tricks used to prevent a somersault. (Which accounts for why the long jump is no more than 9 m because the rules demands a very unnatural action. ) Without the IAAF rules, using both feet for launch vertically, and a somersault/s, to maintain stability, a jump of over 12 m would be the norm.

Put them in the bin !

And Flo Jo's record can?? 🤣

And Michael Johnson. And Lance Armstrong? This better than thou attitude is boring.

In an interview she explained how the short distance indoor races were part of the preparation for the outdoor 400. It was based on the theory that most top athletes have the same maximum speed. So you have to win the race on the first 60 meters.

The majority of athletes in history have been using (and are still using) every chemical aid they can get away with, or think they can get away with. Even going back to the late 1800s baseball players were using performance enhancers. They have just changed what they use and how they use as laws, rules and tests have changed.

We don't even have to speculate if she did steroids. There is actual documentation of the amounts she took and when she took them.

If technique mattered, where have all the great German sprinters gone since then? What Francis "learned" from the GDR is how to use steroids for his own runner , Ben Johnson, arguably the most infamous cheater of all time.

​@@TheErockaustin then why is her record still standing?

Exactly. People are so naive it hurts

A lot of Americans still think FloJo was clean. 🙄

This is so true....and still the record stands. It is an amazing record, juiced or not juiced. I think Levrone has a shot.

Absolute outlier 100% the 60 up through 400 require very different skillsets

It doesn’t happen anymore. Jamaicans also don’t run indoors. Irina Privalova was world-class from 60m up to 400m hurdles in the 90’s.

That's the thing. The GDR sporting authorities would have recognised her talent when she was very young. From that moment on she would have been forced to dope whether she wanted to or not and the authorities would not have cared less about any risk to her long term health.

She was most likely a phenomenal talent. But she absolutely doped as it was mandatory under the USSR in order to be able to compete, and she willingly complied and then has lied about it for decades since. Her talent is far superior to her character, because she was a winner, but much more a cheater.

@@Kissypoohyou do know USSR and GDR were two entirely different countries?

You mean its a d..i...*...k... 🤫

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Some actually transitioned into men. I watched a documentary about them.

Flo Jo and Evelyn Ashford sported fine moustaches. I remember an interview Evelyn Ashford had with Wilma Rudolph who gave an odd look.

Ooof, bottom right corner

chat gpt sucks really hardcore and gives wrong information and chopped answers more than 50% of the time

@@firstnamelastname9215 Anton Chigurh

OK, Jim!

@@Tom-y1j Harold Lederman?

@@pnutbutrncrackers I think so, good call. I just remember him yelling "OK Jim" after Lampley asked what he thought about the round. Good boxing back then.

High Jump , Sotomayor

@@BlueHopi144 and high jump - Stefka Kostadinova...

@@pandaplutten2573 Indeed

Try World Championships Rome 1987, high jump world record. Stefka Kostadinova. Still stand.

Her PR was only .17 faster than McLaughlin until she was almost a year and a half older than McLaughlin, who didn't event have a chance to race during peak this summer. Totally dumb, click bait video.

PEDs these days are much better. So are recovery methods and shoes.

@@robertbucks5537yet the record is still untouchable suggesting the amount of drugs they were doing was higher then those today

@@robertbucks5537so why hasn’t it gotten broken yet. Yes peds a better now but athletes obv take less of them nowadays, otherwise this record would have already been smashed. It’s obv that in the DDR they had some insane shit.

​@@xithr5674Well its a lot about genetics if you have extraordinary athlete in one generation, yes then the record can stay for long periods of time.

In fact is still the 9th fastest time today.

Right

New Women's world record 44.6 😮

XY athletes without a pair of bollocks and a Koch ...

The only reason it hasn't been broken is the spacing of the events ....Zataopek had more time to recover before he ran the marathon.Farah won 5 and 10 twice and Lassie Veren once .in the Olympic games.(.it has done done 6 times ) if they put the marathon on a later day ,..it would have been done.. Zataopek had 8 days to rest between the 10,000 and tbe marathon.😮

That's why all the doping hunters came from the east after the fall of the iron curtain.

All over the world in fact.

She was a massive cheater and everyone knows it

Yep, i just found out that 6 of the runners in that race poped hot for roids,

Johnson just didn't have a good enough team to hide it and other nations probably wanted to make sure he was caught. Johnsons physique was too excessive. Notice the sprinters of today, the science seems to have directed runners to be lighter and leaner with less muscle as opposed to more muscular but heavier. I am just using the eye test.

@@johnnyfry2 All the athletes in the 1988 Seoul Olympics were given an endocrine test : gross steroid abuse causes a hormone imbalance. 85% of the athletes failed the test. (This came out in the Ben Johnson appeal. ) The supposed infraction by Ben Johnson was proved in court to be impossible : 100% purity in a urine sample is impossible. The Seoul authorities lied. Ben Johnson was disqualified for having a hormone imbalance which 85% of the athletes had. When queried, the IOC replied they were not a democracy. Ben Johnson was a scapegoat.

@@michaeledwards2251 Are you saying he didn't juice? lol. Yes, all but one in the 100M Finals that year were using, Ben was no exception, he admitted it. He got caught, they didn't

@@johnnyfry2 What part of a hormone imbalance didn't you understand : Ben Johnson was shown to be a gross steroid abuser. The point being 85% of ALL the 1988 Seoul athletes had the same evidence against them and should have all been disqualified. Ben Johnson would not have been a scapegoat if all 85% of all the Seoul 1988 Olympic athletes had been disqualified for doping. Only 1 in 6 would have been left. Such an action, combined with life time bans for the 5 in 6 would have put a stop to most doping. (There would always be a few dopers left, but they would have to hide their activities. )