The Nephilim Vs. The Seed of the Woman 

I have never read that anywhere in the Bible.

​@@jeannieab5218Then you really didn't read it very good at All!!! Maybe Pray before you Read & ask the "HOLY SPIRIT " to Guide you into ALL TRUTH!!!

That is a different (probably wrong) interpretation, buddy.

The dust and the rib is symbolism. ... Isaiah 44 24 thus sayeth the lord they redeemer and he that formed thee from the wolm ....not dust now let's look at Jesus genealogy but it's long so just the beginning of his line ... Luke 3 38 kjv wich was the son of Enos wich was the son of Seth wich was the son of Adam wich was the son of God. ... Adam wasn't made a man in the battel feilds of war . Wasn't made a man working the coal mines he was made a man working in the cursed dust farming and running his orchards. Symbols symbolism

​@@gabe1597all you have to do to get the right or as correct as possible,( since their are no original manuscripts) translation is use the Etymology/Root word for each name.

"mythology" as per the academic usage of that term or the common parlance usage?

@@user-oq9hn7qk4j last time I checked, one person’s religion is a mythology to another who does not share the same belief, am I wrong?

@@josephcross7960 So, wait, you're saying you don't know your own usage?

@@user-oq9hn7qk4j usage of what?

@@user-oq9hn7qk4j usage of the word mythology, which means a collection of myths, myth ( a widely held but false belief) , I guess I had to simplify it for you two, let me know if you need a simpler explanation

Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples: Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”

Actually he does. What he doesn’t believe in is the same thing this channel doesn’t believe in “a fiery torture chamber in the middle of the earth where God sends people who don’t say the right prayer For context Check this out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ChR9M8-6r-o.htmlsi=Bm8ghUlyS3ymPyPd

Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples: Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”

Great thought 🤔✔️🔔

Interesting thought.

Could be... The Bible is so intertwined. Reoccurring themes happen a lot.

I think it is part of it. He wanted a wife too

​@@ringthembells143In jewish tradition, Qain (cain) in modern is the son of serpent, he slept with Hawah(eve) before Adam. In the tradition, the serpent there has a human figure but more with snake appearance or dragon like scally creature In tradition of Jews, the serpent challenges the human because whoever comes the last in the creation whole rule them. The serpent failed, he cant name the first animal who comes first. The "ox" or in hebrew "aleph" In the tradition of Jews, the serpent took the chance to deceive the woman when all of the "spiritual being" are called to heaven for worship, the serpent went down to eden. In Tradition, his name is Samael, the poison of el This is also mentioned in the book of Jubilees Although these are all tradition or did not get into canon it is still a good data that wont harm anyone reading it

Thank you so much and I love your words here. So glad we have this community and for what God is doing here✌️❤️🔔

Yes! I am learning so much from the original language meaning... It was very hard to grasp at first, I bought books but got scared of studying them, but now I am dipping my toes in the water on the edge, thinking to paddle a bit, but the current is so strong I am being drawn in deeper and deeper, and instead of fearing drowning I find I am loving the experience and questions I had as a teenager are being answered nearly 50 years later... My call in God's kingdom once fought in my heart is being embraced as I shame off wrong teaching in my memory. Amazing!

​@@ringthembells143 If you realize what she is saying, it's actually esoteric New Age Christian mysticism and the rise of the divine feminine. You're great at your ancient Semitic language but really need to look into what the occult infiltration is all about

FYI-RU-vid is really obfuscating this reply!

…which just makes it that much more important, eh? Cowgirl up, Debra. I raised and trained horses and kids for years, and the only thing that didn’t translate perfectly to The Way of Messiah was with my two girls. One got the first perfect equitation marks in female competition in Guadalupe County Tx years ago and the other was Valedictorian of her Christian High School. But the only challenge of using horses to raise kids was that the girls love love love their horse, but they are also taught to BE ALPHA with the larger, more powerful and favorite hairy male beast they work hard to become ONE with… See the potential for the EXACT OPPOSITE ROLE she is called to embrace with the other larger, more powerful favorite things in her life as a ALPHA FEMALE? God? A good dad? A good husband? A good Alpha male President…not that God has given her the role or responsibility to vote against men…who ARE accountable to God for that…but the whole world is imploding in End Times lawlessness and deception which started 100 years ago here with the 19th Amendment. This is simple. Not easy, emotionally, but pride-provoking…which “goes before a fall.” We fell when we allowed women to cancel the vote of men, even though 70% of women at the time did not want to vote against men, as God clearly teaches regarding roles. It was railroaded by big business interests on its face, but Satan himself started his whole attack upon mankind the exact same way almost 6000 years ago…with Eve! We have to have that kind of perspective and vision to see what happened just 100 years ago, and take steps to return to the Garden with God as best we can, now that we have a better New Covenant and the Holy Spirit to guide and empower us! Do we want to follow our pride and have OUR BEST on our terms…or…God’s best, on God’s terms? One thing is certain: we don’t have another 100 years to make this right, even if only in some faithful way within faithful cities, counties and States. Yep, it’s that simple, and no harder than WE MAKE IT. Have you ever wondered how in the world people will find a way to hate loving unselfish Christians enough to kill them wholesale? Wellll, this is it! Tell enough sexually addicted deviants that their addiction will NEVER be acceptable to us or supported as a healthy option for our kids, much less anyone who says “we are coming for your children,” AND ARE DOING SO ACTIVELY. Then, tell infantile self-righteous feminists who hate all men and all women who love their men and their God that THEY CAN NO LONGER VOTE…and they will elect Attila the Hun…otherwise known as the ANTICHRIST. Feminists have proven that they will DESTROY WHAT THEY CAN NOT CONTROL…even their own family, at the rate of 70% of divorces being filed by women and only 12% by men for reasons other than a sexually unfaithful wife. Statistically, women don’t do well at all apart from the headship of their father or husband, and men can’t expect leadership to be given to them…leadership must be taken and responsibly embraced like a grown up by the men who are called to it, whether amid praise or contention, with faithful love all around required, if they ever hope for their wife to be equally faithful. Women have exclusive leadership in ONE VITAL AREA: teaching their family how to be the Bride of Christ by how they conform faithfully to their husband, “as unto The LORD.” If you have any doubt about the ascendency of that KINGDOM role, read Rev22…and just look at how totally focussed Satan is on attacking godly women and embittering and weaponizing the women who have been deceived by the feminist provocation of their pride and lawlessness. 🕎Rev14:12✝️ Nobody has had the guts to look at and publish the data on how we ruined our country, but without women voting, we would not be dealing with the evil that is now commonplace in our land. The research is clearly very negative regard the influence of the 19th Amendment. Two facts are central to this phenomenon: women are not at all accountable for such things, like Benghazi, where a man would have been assassinated, but not Hillary… Second, there are Scriptural grounds for this! Women are prohibited from having leadership over men in Scripture, so how could they possibly be held accountable for doing a poor job of it? THAT is the problem. We don’t have to like this reality, but we have to love Truth and obey God or we are toast…and we won’t even be salvageable for croutons if we don’t RETURN TO GOD BEFORE HE RETURNS TO US! This is the same God who delivered His people from slavery in Egypt, with great plunder and wealth, only to leave them to die in the desert for 40 years, ladies and gentlemen. I am appealing to godly women to lead this, but ultimately, MEN WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD FOR ABDICATING THEIR ROLE TO LOUDER WOMEN. This is now a National Security issue, BTW… Now I know why all the Prophets were killed…so what…as though dying in a nursing home is better? This is our chance to BE LIKE JOSHUA AND CALEB, ELIJAH, MOSES, GIDEON, DAVID, THE APOSTLES AND THEIR FAITHFUL WIVES WHO STOOD WITH THEM-AND YES…LIKE JESUS! “Take up your cross and follow me!” He is at the door, beloved…this is it. May we wash our robes and be received by our King and Bridegroom! ❤️

Amen! Thanks Debra✌️❤️🔔

The biggest deception satan has caused is convincing the world that Christ never returned and reigned for 1000 years. He, in fact, has and scripture said that this would happen! It says in Revelation 20 that he would deceive the world after the millennial reign. The evidence is everywhere!

Thank you!!!!🔔❤️

Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples: Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”

Same 🙋🏻‍♂️ Love This!

The Book of Enoch says they did during the time of Jared.

You need a channel to impart your views of wisdom on the Biblical text. It seems you are anointed by the Holy Spirit.

It’s literally translated ally everywhere else. You have no ground to stand on. You just said a lot of words to sound smart but are just trying to avoid the fact that women and men are on equal ground in the eyes of God✌️❤️🔔

@ringthembells143 The other times it's talking about the nation of Israel (which is a precursor to the modern church), the other times it's talking directly about God coming to help and being your ally. Not about women. You can't remove the context from how the word is used and then make up a new narrative, this is what I'm talking about the issue with textual criticism. Even scripture makes it clear ‭The Acts 8:30 DRC1752‬ [30] And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest? We are only equal in the eyes of God when it comes to judgement, but scripture makes it clear that heaven won't be this egalitarian utopia. Scripture even makes it clear that life kn earth isn't egalitarian as God makes some greater than others. There is hierarchy even in heaven and the kingdom to come. I like some of the content but you should not impose modern values where there arent any.

Great comment. I was about to write concerning this and decided to hop through the comments first. The Latin aduitor is juxtaposed to Adam's sin "because you heeded the voice of your wife". Denying the headship of men over women is one of the main drivers christian reconstructionism today. It is essentially Cultural Marxism infiltrating the church.

@@damnmexican90 Just because hierarchy existed as a part of human existance since AFTER the rebellion in the garden of Eden, that doesn't mean that is God's original design. There is hierarchy between different types of creations ( man and nature, animals...). God is one, yet He is three persons in one, and there is no hierarchy between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Yes they are different in roles but same in nature and united in mind. I believe that is also how God created a man and a woman to be. Marriage, a unity between a man and a woman as an earthly reflection of unity within God. On earth as it is in heaven.

SAME 🙋🏻‍♂️❤️🔔

@@ringthembells143 Is Tim going to take us down that rabbit hole? I confess, I’m typing this with a smile on my face because I hope we’re going there!!!!

Love the way you put that ✔️❤️🔔

@@maryedinger3721 thank you for saying that. Praise God✌️

@@Mamba4.8The world is focused on the enmity and translates the words of the bible accordingly. Snake also means Shining One or Morning Star. To 'strike at' also means to admire. Jacob 'gripping' the heel of Esau also means to protect, guard, or watch over. Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau! (Gen 32:12 NABO) Esau ran to meet him, embraced him, and flinging himself on his neck, kissed him as he wept. (Gen 33:4 NABO) Jacob said to Esau - to see your face is for me like seeing the face of God It seems Jacob was wrestling Esau ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jacob is seated at the table and Esau, the first-born, serves him. Is this version of the same story, Esau is the Christ. For who is greater: the one seated at table or the one who serves? Is it not the one seated at table? I am among you as the one who serves. (Luk 22:27 NABO) "By your sword (sacrifice) you shall live, and your brother you shall serve; But when you become restive (weak; faint; infirm; a worm; man of suffering; restless; wanderer in the desert; way of the Lord in the desert), you shall throw off his yoke from your neck." (Gen 27:40 NABO) Isaac blessed Esau saying: Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO) (far above the heavens.) When I first read Esau's blessing, it seemed he would be poor and begging for food. When he twos off the yoke of Jacob, it looks like he will dwell in a galaxy far, far, away - so to speak. You will not always have me (Mat 26:11 NABO) (Homeward bound) I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB) (Began as the first Adam) My kingdom does not belong to this world. (Joh 18:36 NABO) (Third party mediator) Where I am going you cannot come. (Joh 8:21 NABO) (Left Behind) Then I took my staff "Refuge" and snapped it asunder, breaking off the covenant which I had made with all peoples (Noahic covenant) (Zec 11:10 NABO) Then I snapped asunder my other staff, "Heritage" (Deu 32:8) breaking off my brotherhood with (between?) Judah and Israel. (Zec 11:14 NABO) the one who ascended far above all the heavens (Eph 4:10 NABO) (far beyond the heavens) never to return to corruption (Act 13:34 NABO) (Wait, what?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jacob selected from what he had with him a present for his brother Esau: two hundred she-goats and twenty he-goats; two hundred ewes and twenty rams; thirty female camels and their young; forty cows and ten bulls; twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys. Gen 32:14-16 NAB) Jacob was left there alone. Then a man wrestled with him until the break of dawn. (Gen 32:25 NAB) Jacob named the place Peniel, "because I have seen God face to face (Gen 32:31 NAB) Then Esau asked, "What did you intend with all those herds that I encountered?" Jacob answered, "It was to gain my lord's favor." Esau replied, "I have plenty; my brother, you should keep what is yours." "No, I beg you!" said Jacob. "If you will do me the favor, accept this gift from me, since to see your face is for me like seeing the face of God-- and you have received me so kindly. (Gen 33:8-10 NAB) Esau replied, "I have plenty; my brother, you should keep what is yours." (Gen 33:9 NAB)

Praise God ✌️ You are most welcome

@@boonedog4460 sorry for that perception I can promise you it is inaccurate. We are here to spread the good news of what Jesus has done for our world. Dr. Michael Heiser, Tim Mackie, Dr. Carmen Imes, NT Wright and so many more contribute to the content that we put out. We are here to build up the bride to have proper allegiance towards our king as we wait for his return✌️🔔❤️

Exactly, as I noted in my five volume set of books contra the "serpent seed" theory, we're told exactly how and why "Cain...was of that wicked one" and it wasn't genetics, it was actions, "Because" followed by "his own works were evil" (you can find the series online under "Can As Serpent Seed of Satan by Ken Ammi").

What about that chapter?

It's talking about Jesus on the cross. The Satan bruises His heel ( nails through His feet), but Jesus crushes his head. He's cast out of heaven. He will be thrown into the lake of fire, crushed like ashes underneath His feet.

@@TommyStahr - Okay... but there were also nails through his wrists... and many other injuries inflicted - it isn't just his heels/feet. And I thought this whole conflict is described as something continuously happening throughout posterity. Is there some other way to think about this? Certainly, you'd think a head injury would be way worse than a foot injury.... Perhaps I just don't have a good enough imagination.

@@tylerbarrett6652 This is what the verses in question say: And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring[a] and hers; he will crush[b] your head, and you will strike his heel.” If you read it carefully you will see that it says "he will..." and " his heal" so that is a direct prophecy what will Jesus do. It's a one time event. And heal and head are not to be taken literally. The verses speaking about enmity between the offspring is speaking about continuous enmity between humans and the sons of God that rebelled against Him. We most often call them fallen angels, but the Bible has different names for them. However, the way it's worded, the tense used, you can't read it as a continuous enmity between "the seeds"/"offspring". The verses are clearly indicating that the offspring ( one offspring, not offsprings) of a woman ( not women ), which is Jesus, and the serpent's offspring ( not offsprings) are the enemies. Satan, is not named in the Genesis' verses as the serpent , but we can clearly see that the serpent is not just a snake but a supernatural being and the enemy of a humankind. Hope this helps.

@@tylerbarrett6652 The verses in question are: " And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring[a] and hers; he will crush[b] your head, and you will strike his heel.” If you read it carefully it says THE woman not the women. Jesus is the offspring of THE woman, Mary. Serpant in Genesis is not named ( Satan, the devil), however, it clearly is not just a snake but it's a supernatural being ( what we in Western church commonly call a fallen angel). It also says " HE will" and "HIS heel". He and his indicates one person, one man, Jesus. Lastly, head and heel are not to be taken literally but they indicate the level of harm. Hope this helps.

Several Sisters in Christ and I have spoken about the number of times we've had our heels bruised, in the physical, while speaking the Word of God over a spiritual battle. It seriously has happened numerous times throughout my way along the Way.

(NASB) The LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life; And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.” Genesis 3:14-15

God never destroys innocent and vulnerable life but YAHUWAH destroys those who hate him. Women, children animals.

​@@NowhiscarThe law protects the law- abiding the innocent and even the repentant wrongdoer. But it comes down hard on those who habitually are violent and and deliberate in their acts of defiance. God patiently 120 years for mankind to repent, whilst warning them. Which law enforcers would do all that for blatant evil doers!? 😮

Something tells me deep down that the nephalim DNA will somehow be successfully intergrated with a robotic computer, which will then become sentient! And the mark of the beast which will be in the hand or the forehead of his followers will be a chip or something like a chip, which will immediately bond the follower to this nepahlim (demom spitit)! I really don't know what this chip does to the follower but whatever it does condemns the followers soul to be unable to be saved or to enter into heaven.😢

Transhumanism.

It is gendered, a son. Read the hebrew the word is "son" not children or daughter

@@truthseeker9070 .And in the video 4:30 mark: "Eve a REDEEMING ALLY"..."EVE" = "MOTHER OF ALL LIVING". "the Woman of all living". "but for the man there was not found a [woman his] delivering ally" 5 min mark

@@MLGA4872 i said read the Hebrew text, don't just rely in these guys. These guys won't tell you the full truth For expample about the truth,Point #1 Her name is HAWAH, that first letter in her name which is "het" a hard "h" or pronounce gutturally as "kh" stands for "Life" the full meaning of the name is lifer giver. "Adam" is more like an earthling because his name is related to the "ground" which is "adamah" on where he came from These guys won't tell you this

@@truthseeker9070 Yes, I know these things...Eve, means Mother of all living....like you state; "life giver"...as are all WOMEN who birth children. thus Paul stating in Timothy, that women are "saved through child birth". Our bodies are perfect representations of shedding blood and water WITHOUT DEATH or a SACRIFICE...TO GIVE LIFE and then feed our babies with our bodies too. Isaiah 66:7-14. "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING THOU WOULDEST NOT!" We KNOW THINGS men can never understand! Thus we have the imagery of men holding their loins attempting to give birth to something that is beyond their comprehension. I was just adding to and confirming the things they were bringing out in Scripture about the restoration of women to be equal with men....one of the reasons Messiah came....to restore ALL THINGS! Thanks for your comments. They are greatly appreciated. Adam's flesh was created from red clay soil somewhere else on earth and then placed in the garden. Eve's flesh was created from the soil of Eden. The place where "the gold is very good"...her skin was probably shiny and bright as it was mixed with gold. Just saying. After their marriage was consummated, she became one flesh with ADAM. "This [woman] is now bone of my bone ...same blood line and flesh of my flesh" Matt. 19:1-12,27-30. Blood is manufactured from bone marrow, as we know.

they took on human form. Abraham fed angels "people food". By what physical means did they digest the food?

It is wild but that is what the scripture says.

@@kylestephens4133By what physical apparatus did fallen angels, after “marrying” human females, did they mate with them? I don’t think you’re comprehending the question.

@@mikebrown9850 by what physical apparatus did they digest the food fed to them by Abraham? The answer is the same to both your question and mine: They took on human bodies.

@@kylestephens4133Where do the giants come into the picture? Genesis 6:4 “There were giants in the earth in those days; AND ALSO AFTER THAT, when the sons of God…..” So the giants were not the progeny of those marriages. They lived before the marriages occurred. The progeny of those marriages were not giants, but “mighty men, which were of old, men of renown”.

Look at the original language. All translations lose some of the intended meaning. God told me to study Hebrew when I was 11, and I didn't know how to do that back in 1966. Now I am learning more and more of the wrong interpretations that are present in our translations.

Same thing ✔️❤️🔔

God created all things by speaking them into 0:00 0:00 existence Let there be.....etc All things except humanity God "formed" Adam from the dust of the earth then breathed into his nostrils the breath or life God took one of Adams ribs which He "fashioned" into the woman Eve God created heaven and earth and everything contained within them simply by speaking it all into existence. But God took extra special care when creating humanity.

Good grief.

@@lindigregory119 So God didn’t create man and woman, good to know.

God moulded Adam from the dirt, then He built the woman from Adams side, not his rib, but his side. The Hebrew is very clear in its wording, the translation lost the full meaning, as happens when you translate any language .

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Satan knew and that’s why the following angels trying to integrate with women because they produced a hybrid breed that was not the seed of the the seed of the snake.

Thank you sir 🔔✔️❤️

I personally believe Adam & Eve were in the Garden for a LONG time before the fall ďmay have had children while there. Those children, according to God's directives moved out creating their own families - yes, incestuous, but with uncorrupted genes. These were the people east of Eden Cain worried about. They would've been godly & detested Cain. Able, Cain & Seth, along with "other sons & daughters" were born after the fall. The Bible says God told Eve her pain would INCREASE in childbirth. The word "increase" seems to indicate she understood what childbirth was & that some pain already existed with it. Adam & Eve could've lived for eons before the fall. The Bible seems to only start counting down time AFTER the fall.. They were created to be eternal so no need for "time" before the fall I. So the earth could be very old with towns & people all over from before the fall. After the fall, God started a, probably, 6,000 - 8,000 year plan of redemption.... To end up in humans being eternal again with a new Heaven and Earth - All reclaimed back to the original plan for creation. JMO 😊

@@shilohauraable I agree with you except for this: Adam and Eve couldn't have born children before the Fall, or they wouldn't have been susceptible to the Fall (born into the sin of Adam....have the sin nature). Also, we see only evidence (in the Word) that Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden. Of course siblings married siblings. Didn't I say that there would have been only siblings and nieces and nephews at that time? I guess they might have wanted to kill the man who killed their beloved Abel. If Eve was like mom's today, wouldn't she have such a broken heart? :(

Thanks ✌️

I've heard theories from more time had gone by than what we think. Or that adam and even were special image bearers. The other humans were not designated as priest like Adam and eve. I find both options interesting.

@matthewy8768 both seem like reasonable explanations. I suspect that the latter is more likely. But just a hunch.

Another thought is that there were more siblings. We are not given Cain and Abel's ages when the murder occurred. We also know that people had longer life spans. And So the time table for the events could have been more extensive that we might easily assume as we read the sequence of what happens in Genesis. There may have been time for other siblings to grow up and marry and more people populating the earth than we might first assume and perhaps those were who he was afraid of.

@mare_sheep9724 Cain found himself a woman. If it were his sister, wouldn't you think it would be stated as such? But you could be right.

Could it be that Cain is the seed of the serpent? Cain and Abel were perhaps paternal twins ( twins with different fathers)? Could it be possible the bible is about genealogical purity and obedience? Are the gentiles not adopted into Yahweh's family through the acceptance of his only begotten son Yeshua? I'm just making suggestions, and remember that the height of ignorance is condemnation without investigation.

Bro!!! I thought the same thing and was like how did I do that🤷🏻‍♂️🫣 Hoping it was just a glitch

Crazy thing is I heard it on Jons voice and not Tims🤷🏻‍♂️

@@ringthembells143 yeah I noticed it on Tim's voice first and thought, "Ah he must have been sick at the time" 😂 But then I noticed Jon's slightly more dusky baritone 😄

@@JosiahTheSiahThey could join their church’s choir now 😂 I was in front of the computer a LONG time yesterday so I’m just gonna chalk it up to operator error 🙈

@@ringthembells143 lol well this is some fantastic content, thanks as always for putting all this together!

Yes 🥳 This is the one ❤️🔔

The one that dissolved Christ? No thanks

They cut out the apocrypha and mistranslated Dueteronomy 32. Not the best translation. Best to use several different ones and compare with the original. At this point, ESV is best.

Dud Jesus trad the kjv ? We have all the sources that the kjv had plus more and its very evident the kjv is not ment for modern language it worked in its day but it missed alot and there are better more accurate translations

Witht the kjv can you tell me in the very first chapter weather the Ruach of God is mentioned as Male or female ?

KJV is beautifully written but did you know the resources for it's translation were what was available with in 50 miles of the city and reflects the spoken English of the early 1500's. It was the best for it's time and a wonderful version. It doesn't reflect the scholarship that has brought more knowledge gained of history and language thru research to current date. The Dead Sea scrolls have provided older Hebrew texts of scripture to provide more accurate translations to my understanding.

Friend, you were forced to manipulate God's word in your very first sentence: it's not "sons of man" in the Gen 6 affair but "daughters of men." Also, what makes you merely assert "The Sons of God are Seth's decedents & Cain's decedents are the sons of man"? What was so wrong about those people getting married that their marriages and the offspring that resulted therefrom served as the premise for the flood? As for, "not giants" well, the key questions are: What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”? Do those two usages agree? "Why would angels marry women?" the text tells you they found them attractive. What makes you merely assert, "Seth's line" as in all of them, "called upon the man of God" and that "Cain's line" all of them, "did evil"?

Show me the verse where it talks about Satans fall before the creation of man

@@ringthembells143 When did I say SATAN took his fall before man, ye 👿?????? --- I said Satan took his FALL, AFTER DECEIVING MAN ♂️ and female ♀️👠👠 ---- I'm SCREENSHOOTING EVERYTHING grasshopper 🦗💩-rrrrrrrrrrrd ---- TENACIOUS 💢🔥😡🔥💢 THORN LEON

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Yikes, sorry but no. You took way to much liberty and ran off into heresy.

Where does it say that

Let's grant they were twins: where do you get two different fathers from twins about whom it's said, "Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. And she again bare his brother Abel"?

You seem to imply that basing our views on evidence is a universal imperative but how and why, on your worldview? Also, there are different sorts of evidence for different things. Thus, "The old testament seems to have a lot of evidence" for the things that can be shown via evidence. As for "on paper" well, that's a form of evidence and historians mostly deal with "on paper" stuff. "born of a virgin" is not the sort of thing that qualifies for demands of whatever you may mean by evidence of any other sort: I mean, how could it unless you watched Mary every second of the life right around nine months before she gave birth. As for "a resurrection which no one saw" well, some saw Jesus dead and then alive--that's another sort of evidence called "eye witness evidence" to at least the beginning and end portion if not the middle. As for, "the only thing the God who made everything used toakw us believe?" I'm unsure to what you're referring.

@@user-oq9hn7qk4j - You're sort of making my point. Why would the God who created the universe use something as simple as a virgin birth to make us think someone is divine?

@@johningle1 Why not? But your premise is, "God...use[d] something as simple as a virgin birth to make us think someone is divine" but I'm unsure whence you got that: that sounds like a reductio since it would only be a piece of the puzzle. Also, I was unaware that a virgin birth is "simple."

@@user-oq9hn7qk4j - simple meaning anyone could claim this and no one could ever prove it. Now, if God was born miraculously after a huge comet came and crashed and half the world saw it, and there were records of it, that would have been a better way to do it. I get the, blessed are those who did not see and believe", but hello, every single person who did not live during that little window of time would still have to believe without seeing. And of course many would STILL not believe. But more would believe. Even the Fallen Angels made Giant babies. Now that is impressive. "I swear I'm a virgin"... Said every woman who didn't want to get stoned back in the day. Also, I don't understand why the new testament has 4 people writing the same thing. That's not how the Bible does it. It seems like it is not the same book. I also find it very odd when, in the new testament they will say "and the prophecy was fulfilled" after Jesus did something. It really seems like someone reverse engineered it to line up. It's not like I'm trying to not believe it. I went to Catholic school for 8 years. I just question things now and most of history taught to us is a lie. So I question if this too was part of the lies. Also, the gospels were written after Jesus. They weren't even written by his apostles. Written later. Therefore, could be made up.

​@@johningle1 Since you complain, “anyone could claim this and no one could ever prove it” then your hidden assumption appears to be that everything is provable so then the issue because that you have to first prove that. I’m unaware of anyone in the history of the universe who thought that everything is provable. A related hidden assumption seems to me that we ought to only believe in things that have been proven so then the issue because that you have to first prove that. I’ve no idea how “a huge comet came and crashed and half the world saw it” would result in the conclusion “God was born miraculously” but there was a celestial manifestation that resulted in pinpointing where Jesus was born. Of course, “every single person who did not live during that little window of time would still have to believe without seeing”: that’s just History 101. I’ve no idea what you mean by “Giant babies.” As for, “I swear I'm a virgin” you’re ignoring, or unaware of, that there was tests that could be performed to verify virginity. In common parlance, “the Bible” includes the NT so affirming, “4 people writing the same thing” followed by “That's not how the Bible does it” is a non sequitur. Yet, have you never read Kings or Chronicles, as two examples, the same records are told over and again. If a true prophecy were made and later fulfilled how could anyone possibly show that it was fulfilled other than noting that it was fulfilled after it was fulfilled? Likewise with, “the gospels were written after Jesus” as opposed to what, before? See, you’re inventing problems that are not problems. You complain that they were written after but then when it came to prophesy you complained that it was written before. As for, “They weren't even written by his apostles” well, that’s a complex issue that would include how you know that, and that some used an amanuensis, etc.