A big thanks to Robbins Motors in the "Little Apple" Manhattan, Kansas for the 392 Wrangler... Always a great experience! Also thanks to my neighbor Tyler Potter for (reluctantly) letting me try out his TRX! Check out his video on my Murcielago! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2RNix8sQyyk.html
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 Meh, he doesn't care, it's sold already, he's got his commission - anything that breaks the dealership will just do a half arsed job of fixing as fast and and crap as they can, and then charge it back to jeep at book time.
Wow, I checked the owner's manual and Jeeps still have break-in periods... The last few cars I've owned (2011-2021) have all said that no specific break-in period is required.
@@R0bstez He floors al his cars cold. Break in is not a thing for him lol. Also people saying break in is bullshit, it really is not. When you see a 1000 mile oil change full of metal parts lmao
I cant handle the fact of Hoovie complaining about how "overpriced" these cars are and yet he has a whole hooptie fleet of extremely overpriced old cars lol
As if a new mercedes isnt over priced 😂 the old junk is worth alot cause they dont make em like they used to, but 50k to 250k for a 60s bronco? Now thats retarded. Auto priced are stoopid today
the times it was horrible to cold rev a new engine is years behind us. not sure with the American(i guess Mexican build) engines but the AMG's i had never had any issues
My Gladiator didn't need break in, But I have the EcoDiesel. Some cars it's not needed, I assume if the manual says you don't need it it's not a huge deal. Doing it cold maybe is though.
@@aubattler yet my wife's 2012 Liberty with 85k runs flawlessly with no problems except new tires and rear brake pads. No problems with 3 other Jeeps we own. Jeeps are well made reliable 4x4s.
Honestly I’ve always been a Chevy guy but I really do love what Dodge has done in the past couple decades. The fact they put the helly engine in everything just warms my heart
Ehh..certain parts in certain decades..early 90"s dodge engines were good..i liked the Dakota & Short bed ram of late 90s early 2000"s then poop again & then..recent years theyve just dropped mics on the competition. Nite nite Ford & Chevy. What a generatiin were living in engine/ tech wise !
@@somersetlax well then these old italians can learn and make a car that doesnt need 2 hours of idling to "work" 🤣 shitty design then if it brakes down only because 5 min idle 🤣😂
@@ReviveAndDrive-mk1 bruh. You dumb? Oil takes around 12 seconds to fully circulate. You don’t need 2 hours more like 2 minutes. Go to school before making idiotic comments. This goes for all cars even 2022 models. Takes 12 seconds. Hoovie throwing it into drive and flooring it is awful on his old cars.
With Ft. Riley just down the road, I can only imagine how many enlistment signing bonuses have been dropped on Chargers and Challengers in that dealership.
@@YouWillNeverKnow until I hear about an Airman (or Marine or Sailor) buying a Fire Truck, I’ll continue saying the Army got all the other branches beat 😂
I worked in automotive sales for 2 years after College at a Nissan dealership. Wasn't difficult at all because the dealership moved to a salary + commission pay plan for all sales employees. They also had market value pricing so the price on the windshield was simply that plus tax. I would regularly move 20-30 cars per month there. Stellantis has tons of pickup trucks available so anyone working for the big 3 in sales should have it easy since pickups sell so well.
@@therealtorking9773 Between $6.5k and $8.5k. The minimum you can get paid per sale as commission is $250 (known as a flat) but if you make a profitable sale (extended warranty, winter tires, tire insurance, GAAP insurance, wear and tear protection etc..) then you can make more per sale. Also, if you hit certain goals like getting 95% or higher on several customer surveys or if you sell 3 cars by 1PM on a Saturday they pay a bonus.
Honest answer is that I can barely fit a proper gun rack into it after you take the seats out. Thats the reason why i have a crew cab, always hated having the gun rack in the bed, they are so much cleaner and safer inside. But man i wish they would make them a bit higher, 2 or 3 inches and maybe 4 or 5 inches longer, would give so much more room back there for guns and ammo.
@@toddrobertson1398 There are FIAT parts in more Chrysler models. It's the FIAT curse 😜. In Germany we say FIAT is short for "Fehler In Allen Teilen" which translates to "Defects in all parts"
Ahhh, I remember when Clarkson opined about "the end of an era" driving an NA V12... that was 15 years ago! Keep this Era going. Anyone notice @ford just stuffed a coyote V8 into the Bronco DR?
I believe Dodge has been so successful with this " Throw a Hellcat or Hemi in it " Narrative because we are going all electric soon and I personally think this is the last Hoorah and people are embracing it .
I can’t believe his neighbor let him borrow that truck😱and I can’t believe his father sent him to pick up his new jeep😱don’t they watch this channel😂👍🇬🇧
@@RA22475 why hate on a company that builds crazy bad ass shit? Quality and reliability on the ones I’ve owned has been great. What’s there not to like? Or I guess you could stick with Honda…..those are cool 🤦🏼♂️
@@JamesAMG I’m not against every DaimlerChrysler/Cerberus/FCA/Stellantis product (whatever ownership group they’re currently under - it’ll change again in 5 years, unlike Honda) - the TRX seems like a great truck, it’s stupid powerful, great off-road, excellent interior, rides comfortably, tows like crazy. It’s expensive but justifies its price tag. This is 20-30k overpriced when you can get a Charger with a 392 in the 40’s. The Jeep interior still sucks, it rides like sh*t, it looks like a normal Wrangler with aftermarket wheels, and it’s slapped together like most Jeep’s because their loyal customers will buy them all up anyway, so they have no reason to ever give a sh*t. And yes, there is something sexy about reaching your destination consistently for 200k+ miles and not having to ever worry about whether frame welds were done properly or some other bonkers quality oversight. There’s nothing cool about dumping your newer car at a dealer consistently and wasting your time. I’ll take the Honda.
@@RA22475 Well that’s certainly not the case in the ones I’ve owned. They’ve all been great and very reliable. I have a 2017 Grand Cherokee Summit with 89k miles, and my wife has a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Limited with 58k miles. Both excellent and extremely reliable. And hey listen, I’m not an FCA fan boy either. I also have a 2014 Mercedes AMG E63S, before that I had a Cadillac ATSV, an Acura TL Type S….the list goes on. These are unbiased opinions/facts and not just random info I’m regurgitating because I read it on the internet one day. 👍🏼👍🏼
My friend recently got a 2017 base model Jeep with barely any miles. It’s awesome. Black, hard top, steel wheels, manual windows, 4WD, plastic everything. Automatic transmission, but basically in my mind the perfect Jeep Wrangler
We used to call it “keeping up with the Jones”. Now I suspect being cool and staying in the Tribe has more to do with it. Tho my late father would say that they have more money than sense.
All brand new cars “Smoke and Smell’ when you first drive them.. its the first time the engine and exhaust and all the parts get up to temperature and the various cleaning products and protective products burn off.. totally normal.. within a few days should be all good.. obviously if you think its excessive see your dealer but don’t panic driving a brand new car and it stinks a bit.
Weird. Not saying you're wrong, but weird because my Corvette never did that, and I custom ordered that. Then again they do quite a bit of testing on those before releasing them, so could have happened during that I suppose.
@@BeardedFrog i work at a main dealer as a salesperson, one of my most common questions from clients after their first drive home is .. ‘why does it smell and was that smoke i saw from under the hood?’.. Its normal, both the car, and new owner nerves and doubts..
New vehicles never come with 0 miles. No new vehicle is new. They are all started and ran and tested, typically on machines at the factory, before arriving to dealerships. So no, the 1st test drive at the dealership is NOT the first drive. Therefore, The smoke and smell burns off well before cars get to the dealership. Now if the dealership puts that stupid glossy detail spray on the engine and headers, then yes, its going to smoke and smell
As a Wrangler owner, I can tell you that they can't keep the standard engines cool in any temperature above 80 F. My stock Jeep has overheated until I put in a bigger radiator. This engine swap was great for aftermarket because they seem to have a better understanding of cooling compared to Jeep themselves.
@@matthewprather7386 went to the dealer multiple times. They blamed it being an auto but my brothers is the same year and a manual. Same problem. The engineers just suck at either programming the fan or cooling system design
Everything that people said is going to change in 10 years still won't full change for another 5-10 beyond that. As noble as it might be I feel like the most we'll see by then is more hybrid engines rather than an "all electric future," simply because the issues of that future aren't fully solved yet. Well, that and people generally fight tooth and claw against change.
It took a lot to get out of the malaise era...having got my licenses in the late 1980's , I say good riddance to the bad old days. Cars in the 1990's started to get indestructible, and by the time the 2000's rolled around, we started seeing insane horsepower numbers 😉
Exactly. Demand for these type of cars is up, not down. These cars are amazing. You can have 800hp, decent economy, smooth ride, and relatively affordable. Jeeps in particular are more popular than ever.
@@brentboswell1294 In my humble opinion, 90's cars are the best. Advanced enough, but not too advanced like later cars with more electronic parts than mechanic.
Everything is changing. I grew up in the late 80s/90s and this world vs that world is so different. So give it another 20 or 30 years//it could be total mad max.
It became apparent a few years ago that people could get massively rich off RU-vid and now everyone is attempting their own spinoffs of each other. It's hilarious but some is very good content. I don't watch cable anymore..
I have one of these 392’s and it puts a smile on my face every time I start it. And the looks that every other Jeep guy gives you when they hear it is priceless. Well done Jeep👍🏻
Have to run the 3rd gen hemi hard. Watched a video on the 3rd Gen Hemi tick not related to the exhaust bolt sheering. It's from not getting sufficient oil at lower RPMs.
Those cars are low and tight and have huge wheels and stiff chassis designed to handle going, turning and stopping fast. You can literally see the whole thing twist in the wrangler when he puts his foot down, it's a deathtrap that's going to have lots of casualties.
I’m with you on the Gladiator,I got one thinking I would like it and it didn’t work out.As soon as I heard about the 392 in August,I started looking for one.Once I found out how much they were willing to give me on a trade,the decision was a no-brainer.Found a local dealer with the exact setup I wanted and was willing to deal(because they had 9 in inventory).I contacted probably 30-40 dealers and they were all asking 10k above MSRP.This dealer was willing to let it go for 2k above MSRP,so I gave him a deposit and picked it up the next day.Trading the Gladiator for the Rubicon 392 was the best decision I’ve ever made.I’ve owned 8 jeeps,including a 1979 CJ7 renegade 304, and this is by far my second favorite to the renegade 304.When I got the Gladiator,I really thought I would have fun and enjoy it but it didn’t work out that way.It simply wasn’t for me where as the 392 is me
I got the call last week letting me know I finally had a build date for my Xtreme Recon 392! Should take delivery first week of December and can't wait. This video was just confirmation that I made the right decision to get my name on the list almost a year ago.
@@Yosemite_Sam Mostly take it all over Colorado where I live but also spends a bunch of time in Moab. Been planning to do the Idaho BDR for a while. It certainly will not be a mall crawler.
@@mattmccracken2012 Righto thanks. In OZ we see very few Jeeps here. The old poor dealership problems killed them here. Its all Toyota and Nissan here. Cheers.
My mate in the states got his a month ago.. Trust me, your Dad will get to know the Service Manager by First Name.. His has been back twice so far to fix that roof, and engine warning lights.. plus the right hand rear door hinges.. door wouldn't close after a quick trip of road.. in a 4x4?
I love how the salesman's answer to high priced vehicles is "Well Dodge is in the business of selling obsurd vehicles with obsurd price tags" to paraphrase"
Dodge is in the business of selling batch orders of their junk to rental car agencies, and a few copies of "absurd" junk to those foolish enough to buy it. With that said, yes I'd have a Wrangler 392 if I lived by the beach or mountains and was in the position for a weekend toy.
It's not just dodge though it's every company dodge just happens to make a lot of cool ass shit that needs big price tags but generally every vehicle is expensive now I remember growing up me and my dad would go the dealership and a fully loaded diesel would be 50-60k now its more like 80-120k depending on trim there used to be cars at our local dealers just a few years ago price 7-15k brand new I don't think you could find one under 20 now atleast where I am now this is canadian btw
I think that old mentality has changed. I’ve had multiple newer Chrysler’s and Jeeps and they have been excellent and any repairs I’ve had to do were so simple. Branson, are you speaking from experience or just spreading more garbage on the internet?
Ah yes, the old Chrysler reliability jokes that will never end. There are hundreds of thousands of Chrysler products that have hundreds of thousands of miles on them, oh but they don't last 100k miles. I'm not sure whether you're talking about the wrangler or the TRX, so I'll just assume both. The wrangler has a 6.4l hemi V8 engine. Simple pushrod engine. The most notable issues with this engine were the lifter failures, although this issue has since been corrected. There is virtually nothing to go wrong with the engine. ZF 8 speed transmission. Simple automatic transmission that is known for being reliable. It is a wrangler JL which had improvements to the suspension and frame to make it ride better and to prevent death wobble. Being a wrangler, it uses older Chrysler technology which is known to be pretty free of issues. There is really not much, if anything to go wrong on the vehicle. Now for the TRX. The TRX uses a 6.2l supercharged hemi V8 engine. This is also a simple pushrod engine. These engines aren't really known to have any issues. The TRX also uses the ZF 8 speed transmission which, like I said, is known to be reliable. The TRX uses IFS so it cannot possibly get death wobble, and there aren't any other issues with the suspension or frame. The TRX being a 5th gen Ram truck means that it uses more modern Chrysler technology, however, this tech has been around for a few years and most of the issues have been worked out by now. The 5th generation Ram trucks came out in 2019. There is a video series on youtube about a long term 2019 Ram 1500 with 125k miles that has not had major issues.
Nice to see FORD learned if they wanna actually compete with TRX they need to make RAPTOR R with proper V8 I think all EV obsession that majority do not even want will just help raise values of used cars like TRX
@@williamserver4332 Exactly. Where I live (Michigan) new Tesla's can't even be sold here legally. The few people here who own them have to purchase them out of state somewhere and there's virtually zero charging support for them or any other EV for that matter (aside from the dealership), so owners literally have to live somewhere that they can install a power source at home in order to use those cars. I like the idea of EV's but people who think they're going to rule the roads in 20 years are very short-sighted. Maybe in California where I hear that EV's are now as common as Camry's or F-150's, but the rest of America is hardly equipped and many consumers simply aren't interested or trusting of them.
That engine burn off is most likely cosmoliene. I was an engineer at a Chrysler assembly plant. When the new engines would start for the first time, they would smoke a lot. Cosmoliene burn off.
My dad was one of the first people to take delivery on a TRX in our state. I was really skeptical when he told me he was buying one, but I love it! The ride quality is nice, the interior is beautiful, and it’s just super fun to drive. It’s big and loud and ridiculous and stupid but that’s the whole point. I never thought I would like a truck but I love the TRX. Get one, preferably in that beautiful metallic blue, so I can live vicariously through you.
I love how the Jeep could have easily been delivered to his father from dealership but Tyler chose to do a video with it and tow it with someone else’s TRX.
The key to widespread electric vehicle adoption will be the abundant generation of electricity. Unfortunately, solar and wind generation are not always available. The sun does set and the wind can stop blowing. Here in California, the big electrical utilities have not maintained their delivery systems very well. Hopefully the Kansas utilities have done better. Cheers.
I mean the 392 Wrangler and the TRX are nice, love them. But all the Jeep guys wanted was a standard 5.7 Hemi in the Wrangler. That would’ve made it e perfect everyday car, especially in the Gladiator. Didn’t need the Hellcat in the Ram either but it’s nice to have, but a nice simple 6.4 2WD RT option would’ve been a great offer as well!
To be honest i worked in a jeep dealer and those retractable tops on the wranglers are not bad at all. People love them and they haven’t come back with any issues. Kind of a success but that’s the only vehicle that has that works. All the other keeps and fiats that have it always break. Haven’t seen any wranglers come back
I upgraded from a Honda Ridgeline to a 2017 Rebel that for--the smaller brother to that TR--and even after a few years it's just amazing. The drool factor for the TRX is there but yeah, you pay a $25k premium to get that Hellcat engine. Neighborhood speed humps are just lil play things to the suspension on those trucks--and the kids LOVE IT! BOINK!
They are absolutely cranking out those TRXs, and they're also making way more of the Grand Wagoneers than I ever would have imagined at an even higher price point. It makes sense since those models are the highest margin, and when you've got a limited supply of chips available, you make as many of those high margin vehicles as you can, and then you put whatever is leftover into the most popular models. The reason I know they're cranking them out is because I happen to work for Stellantis, and I provide IT support in their manufacturing facilities. Since the chip shortage has caused plants to shut down sporadically, I've spent some time helping out at other facilities, and I had the chance to work at SHAP where they build the TRX and WTAP where they build the Grand Wagoneer, and I saw a large number of both moving down the line. The 4Xe (pronounced four-by-ee) models are pretty sweet, because they've got lots of torque and way better gas mileage than the Pentastar. It's a lot more practical than the 392 Wrangler. The electrification stuff is gonna be a lot more exciting once the folks over in the Dodge division start doing their thing. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of years we see them putting out models that will blow the doors off of anything you can currently get from Tesla, which isn't as hard as you'd think, given the poor build quality of Tesla's vehicles. Even back in the day (late 70's - 90's) when Chrysler vehicles weren't known for their high build quality (they're actually winning awards for it now, so it's turned around since the previous merger with Fiat) they still weren't made nearly as bad as these Teslas that literally have bumpers falling off the vehicle when people are driving them off the lot.
Imagine test driving a car you're about to drive...and after that he starts smoking? Only Hoovies to have the mood to still go for it without asking for a huge discount.
Lol hoovie is the best person to test drive a car because if something is about to break, you already know that he’s gonna break it during the test drive
I just bought the diesel rubicon. You are making me want to collect the other 2 niche power plants and have a 392 and 4xe in the stable. Already had the 3.6 but no way on the etorque. Don’t think the baby turbo will keep from tearing itself apart in the long term so maybe just the 392 for now. There are a couple of dealers offering them at MSRP through the jeep forums.
@@MikeKayK yeah. The diesel for off-roading and towing and the 392 for more fun and banging around. The 392 is AWD and doesn’t have a transfer case disconnect so you don’t have the versatility and the brake assist traction control et al is not the most ideal for that kind of driving. It is a street machine with offroad capabilities. Not sold yet on the 4xe as it only gives you 25miles tips of all electric which at the cost of all the added complexity is just stupid. But it would be fun to have 3 different power plants as options to choose from.
@@OttoTheWeim You'd be better off with a dedicated towing rig. The wrangler is good at banging around off road and that's about it. Would be pointless getting more than one.
Hoovie does not believe in letting a car break in. Unbelievable that a guy with all of these cars in his life and jumps in his “DADS” and frikn hits 8000 rpm! Classic.
Hmm....burning off the new stuff. I'm gonna say it's not supposed to do that. Unless someone went through some water while blasting around with it? LOL $80k for a pickup AND a Jeep Wrangler each. Love the engines/drivetrains....wicked overpriced for me. Still very cool though! Did you make Tyler walk home? Haha
tbh they’re not too overpriced, when you take comparison models with different engines you’re basically just paying for the engine swap stock. and it’s cheaper paying it within the price of the vehicle than doing it aftermarket! this jeep is seriously my dream car
$80000 for a Jeep 🤯 I remember when I bought my 2nd car I ever owned in 1995. It was a 92' Jeep Wrangler 4.0L. I paid around $12,000 for it. I put just over 200,000 miles on it before I sold it. Good car...
I'm fully convinced the only reason anyone thinks the TRX is overpriced is because it doesn't have a German or Italian badge. I'm honestly surprised that they don't start at $100k+. Lots of great engineering and quality parts added to an already excellent vehicle. It's the best answer to "if I could only have one vehicle."
When regular car prices start approaching 'I could just buy a house' zone, then this super high HP in an average car trend will die FAST. Nobody is gonna buy this shit anymore with the engineered chip shortage and inflation.
Yeah, I have a buddy that works for Renault, and he says they are shipping cars with IOUs, especially features like folding mirrors and stuff and telling customers they will fit them when the parts arrived in.
But you can also buy a 40k wrangler new, so the fact an 80k one also exists doesn’t bug me. Only way this fad goes away is if government puts a stop to it.
That comparison doesn't make sense since housing prices are skyrocketing as well. There will always be a market for high-performance vehicles, even 20 years down the line when everything is electric. Also, the chip shortage isn't "engineered". Chips take a while to make and there's no way around that. Although it would be fun, you can't make a baby in 1 month by getting 9 women pregnant.
"One big last hurrah." Is what was said in 2005 with the Veyron... 2013 with the Mclaren P1... 2015 with the first Hellcat... 2016 with the Chiron... ... the Demon... the Redeye... the Redeye Widebody... The Trackhawk... We're going on 16 years of "last hurrah". For perspective, the Muscle Car Era... in its entirety... lasted from ~1964 until ~1974... but the "last hurrah" is going on 16 years.
Gee dad I was hot rodding the truck and I have never put a car on a trailer before and your new $80,000 Jeep rolled off and was totaled. "Thanks son". But in a positive note it will make great content for YT. "Thanks a lot son". "You are out of the will".
My dr. said her sister flew from michigan, to seattle washington to buy a mini van, because she could only find electric around here. I have had friend's, family, and myself being offered money for our newer car's from dealerships all over. Keep what you have, and take care of it because 2021 was the last new gas car's being made, could be till 2023, but close. God bless.
