Only 400 rounds of 55gr through it so far and maybe 100 of various other match rounds. But I love it so far. Good balance, good features and controls. Safety takes some getting used to with how protected the button is. But that’s just a skill issue. Really want to get a 9mm conversion upper. The trigger is fantastic.
@@HarleyWood23 Calibers in every iteration of AR have been done long ago. And there’s a dozen options for side charging uppers out there (avoid buying from Gibbz Arms….ask me how I know).
@@OFFICIALUNDthat didn’t answer the question. I’ll help you out. Sig and FightLite have not produced one that combines side-charging, commie-grip-compliant, that’s also available in so many calibers.
I know this was initially designed for multi-state compliance; but this is a brilliant design for a SPR and reminds me of a M14/M1A aesthetic (I can't get one cause MD is a stupid state).
Really great design regardless of state compliance, would be a great primary hunting rifle / secondary general purpose rifle. Also great tip about keeping the optics mounted low, makes sense considering the design.
If only I could decide on going with 6ARC or 300BLK, love the design of this rifle! Cool change up. Also curious how other handguards would be available for this type of rifle?
Will the dissent upper work on the FM ranch lower, and visa versa? Really enjoy the FM ranch rifle, and would love a 'nicer' version of it. The price tag on these is gonna be hard to swallow compared to the Fm though.
Its a great start, but there are few states this still wouldnt be legal, including my state of Illinois. Make a version without a barrel shroud and a plain Jane muzzle that is not threaded and you might be able to sell it here.
Trust us, we are trying. Unfortunately the 🤬gun grabbers like making ignorant "laws" faster than we can make firearms to skirt them. Do they even know what a barrel shroud is? lol
@@CMMG probably not, but somebody must of whispered in their ear cuz they included it in their list of banned items for rifles😢. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to respond and for making firearms that try to find a way around the system. We in the banned states attentively await the results of your ingenuity. Be blessed.
@@thelastminuteman7513 That's kind of what we are bantering about here. It's an ambiguous term that gun controllers use and can't define. In this case, they'll say that our handguard is a barrel shroud. They pretty much want them all to be like traditional rifle stocks with barrels bedded into them, and not be surrounded (shrouded).
@@thelastminuteman7513 piggybacking off CMMG, the logic ban states are using is that any hand guard that covers the top of the barrel allows the shooter to hold the rifle in a tactical way (such as a C clamp hold) or protects the shooter from being burnt while holding it when the barrel gets too hot during rapid fire, which to them rapid fire would only happen in a scenario of criminal intent, like a mass shooting. So, their logic is if you remove all the accessories that make rifles more stable (adjustable buttstock and barrel shroud/hand guard), easier to fire (pistol grip, muzzle break) and less detectable (flash hider, silencer), while also limiting magazine capacities, active shooters are left with rifles that would be less effective in the criminal act of a mass shooting, therefore making mass shootings less likely to occur. Not saying this logic tracks, just explaining how my state, Illinois, explained what a barrel shroud is and why it needed to be banned with the rest of the features.
How about P&W barrels on the pistol calibers? Don’t need much more than 10” of barrel to get max velocity. A 10” barrel with 6” muzzle device/suppressor would be pretty compact
@CMMG you guy are awesome for this. TY. Just a heads up. NYC guidelines are stricter than the rest of NYS. If you take a look at the Fightlite SCR with the non-threaded barrel, you have a NYC compliant rifle as long as you have a 5 rd mag, which is therefore compliant for all of NYS, and probably nationwide. And just an idea, 5.7x28 in a 16" non-threaded barrel wouldn't kick, IJS.
This may sound crazy, but if you guys ever decide to offer an AR10 pattern lower, with a 16" .308 upper, you'd have a modern day M14. I'd take that setup over an M1A any day! Just a suggestion.
Shalom to the great folks at CMMG, just wondering if you can US source and manufacture CMMG Rifle Scopes & Optics. I will buy the first 4 LPVO's if you decide to make this happen.
Threre is a right side option to purchase for the gas operated guns currently. The gas tube gets in the way but we are working on an option. The 9mm is ambi.
I love it but i beat ya to it. I'm using a Fight Lite lower receiver with the 16" 5.56 Dissent upper receiver. It's been an awesome setup. But yes I'll be getting a BR4.
What is the height of the rings on the Vortex LPVO that is on this rifle? I am getting the Vortex Venom for my Br4 and would like to mount it as low as possible
You're going to want to use low or medium. We have a Strike Eagle on this. Low just clears, but if you have the quick throw lever or slightly larger eye piece, you'll need medium.
There was one issue with Tactical Considerations' rifle. That was an early prototype handguard that should not have been installed on the firearm and was replaced for him. There have been no other concerns out side of that one off issue.
It seems like standard pop-up iron sights would be too high for a cheek weld on this, even with the riser on the stock. What iron sights are recommended?
Likely because Remington has a bit larger of a market share in the civilian world, so there is a bit more support for 870 accessories like stocks. Or our engineers could have just flipped a coin 😉
@@CMMG Well, of course. AR10? The ONLY difference is size of barrel diameter, receiver, bolt, and mag well. I’m glad it is in the works. I don’t recall in my question anything said about an AR15 used as a .308 or 6.5cm. I simply asked for those in a BR4 configuration with the BR4 stock to get around state restrictions as you did with the 5.56. There was no need to “educate me” about AR caliber because your answer was confusing since you didn’t say AR15’s, you simply said AR’s and there ARE AR’s in 308! = AR10’s. 😄 Thank you for reassuring us that there are larger (longer) calibers in the works.
@@garyomalley4521 Sorry. It was just a confusion or clarification on the naming. The "4" in the Br4 designates AR magwells (like our Mk4). We just like having as much info out there as possible for resources for everyone that may be reading the comments. Didn't intend for there to be a negative tone to that.
Guess that depends on how it's mounted. There are a lot of options. If it's rail mounted, the ejection port on this and other DISSENT uppers would be a bit lower than traditional ejection ports in correlation to the rail height (but not by a ton).
@@4foxsake571 That's really subjective, and dependent on use. A good LPVO in the 1-6ish range would be great for this. Depending on who makes that, low or medium rings may be needed for proper clearance of the ocular lens. Look for rings that will put the center of your scope at around 1-1.25" and you should be good. Those measurements are usually listed in the ring's specs.
A skeleton type fixed non pistol grip aluminum or metal stock would make this even better then it already is. This will be the only way I can own a CMMG. 👍
IMHO: I REALLY WISH THAT YOU WOULD'VE FILMED THIS, IN SUNLIGHT!! (NOT NECESSARILY FULL, BRIGHT SUNLIGHT, PERHAPS JUST FILM ON A CLOUDY DAY... BUT, FILMING THIS IN THE SHADE, WITH THE BRIGHT BACKGROUND "SUCKS"... IT MAKES IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SEE THE PRODUCT DETAILS!!!!! ...C'MON MAN!!!! REDO THIS VIDEO!!!
everything about this is cool except the price. when you can get ar-15s for sub 800. adding an extra 1,000 to it is a little hard to swallow for the average joe. But i suppose thats the price you pay for living in a ban state.
I LOVE IT! You do know this would still be illegal in NY state, right? The "SAFE"(my ass) act states that you can have only two scary features on you rifle, and it being an auto-loader is the first one. So, most people choose having a detachable magazine as the second one, and those who want a 14.5 with a permanent brake/flash have to use lowers that make the magazine, well, harder to detach. If you want this to be NY legal, you want to have a 16in version without anything at the front(thread protectors must be non-removable, usually drilled, pinned and spot welded, so it's way easier for most to just have a bare crown at the front). I LOVE that you guys are thinking about us commie-state residents though.
Yeah, unfortunately NY is one of the 3 outliers still for this to be legal in. We are still looking at more options to get in there though. Keep up the fight!
6:20 - I'm willing to overlook the obesity and the fact that this is an obvious copy of Sig's Regulator (because I hate Sig) and the FightLite (which was the OG), but I'm not willing to overlook the misuse of the phrase "rack it."
WTF. "We've been working on this for many years." Yeah, if by "many years" you mean "since Sig released their monstrosity within the last 12 months", then sure.
❤❤SORRY ,YOU BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR HOW LONG ???? YEARS ,YEARS AND MONTHS ???? so now that SIG already released there rancher at ,,i think the 2024 shot show ,,you now suddenly jump on the exact same type of system ,,except all you did was took any of your rifles that already have been on the market for ages ,,removed the 1913 rail ,pick rail or folding stock and mounted a non folding solid rancher style stock and wow it took you years or months or about a shift i think to realise ,,wow SIG IS SELLING HEAPS OF THE RANCHERS IN SHITZVILLE CALI !WE WANT IN ,,AND WHAM BAMB THANKYOU SIG FOR A GREAT IDEA WE DID NOT THINK OF OURSELFS ,,,,WHY LIE ABOUT IT ????
If I were a betting man I would say Sig copied it from CMMG!!! Just ask Kevin Brittingham. My grandpa always said "You can't fix stupid" ......STUPID!!!
So SIG invented the Cali compliant MSR??? You ignant son. That lower / FCG probably took years to develop / test. You can’t just shit out a copy. There are these things called patents. Go back into a cave, learn more, then come back out again and you can rejoin modern society.
How? It gives people in certain states the ability to buy the rifle, and in most cases they're able to still change it to the original design if it's necessary, laws change, or they move to another state.
