THE NEW META in Space Engineers - Carriers!!! 

That enemy shot was literally the perfect shot for recording gameplay whether it's for a show or just a good fight, was a AI/NPC or an player who did the shot for you?

@@miniblasan5717 All NPC. The entire video, besides me controlling the ships each there

@@BURN7Gaming Then that was one hell of lucky shot, you should definitely buy a lottery ticket given that massive luck 😂

@@miniblasan5717 LOL

6:30 when the view of the Mars-like planet is disturbed by a fleet of fighters announcing the arrival of birrb's carrier

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Grid AI? So they'll control other fighters?

@@phantomnat2002 You will be able to have AI drones

Preaty much factory ships will be meta do you could swarm your oponent, dam even nowdays it works amazingly if u have few ships to cover you

You can also use Grid AI to make long range missiles that have self guidance in vanilla!

at that level it is more like a mother ship 😅

True

I have the same problem

For me it was a type of ship like a helicopter from the movie Avatar. Only that he was ugly :) LOL

Yeah those fighters aren't designed to be recovered. Mostly they are cheap and agile. They get printed off 5 or 10 at a time on a sprue and loaded in with a tug. They are treated more like munitions than attack craft on the logistics side of things. If you do manage to bring one back you just lock it down on the flight deck to jump out and worry about it later.

I will consider that for the next event. The problem is that I'm not very good at long-form content with voice overs or similar🥲

Same, thats a great carrier design at the beggining tho.

i mean, its for fun, there is no meta in a game like this, its not like it is competitive or something

@@soflam4276 Oh i know, i see that i came off a bit snarky but i was excited for the potential info. It’s still an awesome video though.

Sorry for the confusion

Old meta of "more guns more boom" still holds true i suppose.

I'm excited for people to try though! I'm focusing on developing destroyers and frigates now...

YES!

Not just carriers but whole fleets. No reason other than potential lag issues to not have a few large grid ships fallow the carrier for extra defense.

@@Yukimaru0 I agree

Then ships would start becoming very AA heavy.

Next time! :)

I assume you liked the video :) LOL

Battleships are cool.

@@Cooldude-ko7ps Yes they are!

It's more that it took 10 years for the game to develop to a point where they were actually feasible.

@@MALICEM12 holy shit this came out 10 years ago i'm getting old

thank you

So you are a "big boom/explosion" S.E. player :)

@@BURN7Gaming yes

should design a fighter to do that, then a carrier that can re-arm and re-fuel said fighters. A true swarm of non-stop explosions

i designed a ship that could fire off 40 guided "missiles" in a matter of 20 seconds. No mods either. It works pretty well. The ship's defenses are immediately overwhelmed.

@@micaiahm710 what kind of guided missiles do you use? I’ve seen the custom turret block missiles, but they are too complicated to build in survival

it would be nice

Agree

I dunno. Battleships will probably start having tons of AA.

🤣 if you know, you know; am I right? I love those boats

I am the only pilot in all the videos. But thanks

Scripts are the answers, I personally like to make more pvp viable cariers, they look boring tho but are functional essentially a flying factory with speciall conectors and like 15 jump drives so our server fleet can jump several times, and even bring smaller cheaper vesels for which the jump drive is too large, essentially lets us design smaller, more compact ships that are also cheaper, as we don't need to worry about the jump drives, and then the drone factory wich just produces 5 drones at once all with basick path finding and the new turet target block, their main purpose is to give us a good distraction and swarm the enemies (essentially 6 thrusters a misle/gatling and some random ass armor around it, we call them worms as thats what they are, cheap small drones) and suprisingly this strat works wonders

@@mattor300 Sounds good, but I don't use scripts at all and I have no idea how you do this😅

@@BURN7Gaming ok so what you do is set up a waypoint of said name (I just use AAA so its always the first one) then just put it inside the already preset command block? (Forgot how its caled in English) and how to aim the drones? Well you just simply equip them with same turret controler system as you whould the misles but without the thruster control, and there you haven it, you can also make it (with the larger designs that produce like 10 worms at the same time) so that the turret controler preaty much rams the drones at the enemy, and then you just lunch all of them as you would the torpedoes, of curse this solution doesn't make a death zones and is better for seages, I also don't really know if you can somehow automate the weapoint procces a bit more, as for now we always just send tobi as our bait, he dies but makes a waypoint then the swarm commences, I must test it really, as I haven't really been the one to make the drones work, I just desinght the worm and then the carier, the actual inner workings were made by someone else, but that's how it works from my understanding and from what I do, and let me tell you if you see a 4 ship fleet, and then like 5 signals per minute coming at you, especially on servers with on grid gun limitations, it is scarry as you can often duble or triple the dm output, and make it consistant, (but again 1v1 it is much weaker as the big ships can kill the drones before they deal significant dm, that's why you need something to tank for them) although for 1v1 my new longbow uses a special type of tanking, instead of having baits in dense areas, it produces 6 bait drones/3-5 sec and lunches them at its side in a special with a speed of 50m/s when I put him into testing whith the small turnament we made with those 4 friends to determine our new cruiser design it managed to 1v2 and one shit the 3rd one thanks to its speed that I could achive with not using heavy armor, as most bulets didn't even hit while I was spinning hahaha so yea using small drone factories is really strong, thing is its difficult to make them work and even harder to keep them intact as a single shot can break the whole setup sometimes, thats why you must always hide them

@@mattor300 Hmm never thought to try that🤔. I think that was the longest comment I've ever read LOL😆. Thank you for your time👍👍👍

thank you

LOL It's an epic idea :)

Thanks!

I agree with you

Thanks. Yeahh that ship is a monster LOL

yes, they will be even stronger

Not when you're going to be swarmed by a bunch of AI fighters with you in the back providing support using your own missiles

@@BURN7Gaming always 1 step behind...

@@murderyoutubeworkersandceos that's what happens when you spend your time making flashy videos instead of actually playing on PvP servers...

I agree with you

Well if you make it send me the name of the ship to check ;)

Thank you

Be careful; That's EXACTLY how I ended up with a carrier (my 1st successful large grid) on this video...

LOL 🤣a very strong ,,wind''

Nice

It's me again I built a new carrier and asked my friend to use my vogan like one and we're evenly matched pilots but I won due to me being in more combating situations and he's now preparing for our raid Vs the COR (corpus) ive been gathering data to get the beat battle results but im suspecting theyre building a supercarrier do to the lots of supplies being pulled in the massive underground hanger they hav but my boys hav been building a dreadnought and a supercarrier bc im sorting plans and who does what

Oh and btw I've done more work in a ground factory in our asteroid base which is my testing phase decoy bombs and grind pods for the hanger

Hello yet again I've started an investigation on the enemy base and as I thought it was a supercarrier but I found out it was their way of reaching pertam which i had 2 people their reaching a dropzone so i can return them to me safely so I decided to trigger an alarm and try sabotage the carrier for my crew members to leave the grasp of pertam but as I hid from the charging guards I noticed they had a data board room so I snuck in and found the plans for pertam and screenshoted it and escaped in my custom painted ship and called a drone ship to distract the enemy and as I flew away I saw that a whole convoy with 5 trucks 3 tanks and 9 jeeps containing by my guess supplies for their supercarrier I decided to call in a crewship to focus on the trucks which it destroyed 2 of them befire needing to jump back to base where I shew everyone present the plans and might I say our dreadnought is done and being loaded with ammunition and fuel

Yeahh, it's good that we have all the AI block stuff.

@@BURN7Gaming which are nowhere as effective as a human pilot

@@andromededp5316 They don't need to be. Does not matter how good you are as a pilot, 1 v 5 is probably already moderate. 1v10 and the pilot is more than outgunned. Most of these ships have the issue, imo, of not offering enough fighters. The last ship on the list with a 50 fighter compliment can be 100% automated with AI blocks. At best the pilot might give you a chance with waves of 10. But if you are playing to win, you are deploying all 50 at once. And, if the thought might be 'just take out the carrier', well, the AI blocks don't need the carrier to function after deployment. So, you drop in, deploy your fighters, and then have the carrier retreat. Or, if you are feeling extra bold, keep a compliment of 15 fighters on patrol around the carrier to deal with pilots brave enough to take it head on. I am going to be putting a lot of this into practice soon myself. I am starting up a server with some friends and I am planning to do an AI Drone Hive play vs my friends. No allies or teammates. We have the benefit that our mod list is going to include drills for INF resources, but we will have to fight to control resource nodes. I am very interested in seeing how this plays out.

I actually have a scale skeleton of Tiqqun station but I don’t know if I will ever finish it. From my crap measurements it’s roughly 1.2km in diameter but I might be remembering wrong…

yep :)

If you are fresh in the game you will have a loot of stuff to do and try. Especially when you will start to use mods. If you are interested to buy any DLC I recommend to buy the decorative pack 1 and 2 and Industrial pack

@@BURN7Gaming thx!

We got a PVE server with a couple of friends, if you’re interested in doing your thing on a server with a couple of people you’re more than welcome we do have a “PvP” planet where everything will be allowed

Hi. Thanks for the suggestion. But I do all my videos in single player because I don't have any delay or lag and stuff like that. Also, I spawn and respawn ships a few times until I get the best shot possible, which isn't a good idea if you're on a server. And lately I've stopped making long videos and I'm focusing on short videos.@@clamidiha

Yep. That's why I had this idea for this event

Drones... Like a Protoss carrier from Starcraft... thats spooky... It could still be realistically countered though; I doubt the AI will be much good at evasive maneuvers.

@@marcusinfestus1333 😅I hope Ai will be able to fight in a decent way.

@@burn7.0 That"s why carriers like the last one that can hold like 50 would be useful

Your Barracuda feels like a Balao Class Submarine lol

@@birrbGamesI see it lol especially on the inside. It was inspired by the IJN i400 and i401.

Hehe, i love creating land stuff man. I just feel like this game has lotta ships on the workshop but its lacking rovers you know :)

@@bevhilkn5583 agree. Good bases too. I appreciate a good base or rover because I need them, but I'm not interested in designing them lol

Maybe sometime in the near future I'll make one just because you said ;)

There will always be something wrong with something :)

that is a cool idea :)

@@BURN7Gaming maybe even a mobile shipyard?

Thanks. Watchdog, all links in the video description

Probably. I've never played with clang so I can't say

Based on the number of interior walls I see used, and the exceptionally slow acceleration listed on several ships, I'd have to imagine most (if not all) of these carriers have exactly two responses to being engaged in pvp by properly designed and flown purpose-built L-grids: A: Panic-jump B: Get torn to bits In real life carriers are important and powerful because they allow for the deployment of craft that are fast and efficient. We can't afford to give every soldier in the military their own automated sky-battleship (or for that matter try and build flying battleships in the first place). In SE if you aren't short on resources, then other than repair time there really isn't a good reason to not give every soldier in your military their own rocket-propelled sky-battleship.

​@@tael3081 Agree with you. Thank you for your feedback

@@tael3081 On the contrary, a single well-crewed battle cruiser outfought more than thirty times it's mass over the course of a year in GetBrocked's Outlands due to it's ability to continuously repair, including one battle with close to 7/1 odds against it. A big part of that was the well-drilled and experienced damage control team, another was the strategic design of the ship to enable combat repairs, and a third was aggressive use of the jump drive, as well as just plain good captaining.

​@@dashiellgillingham4579 I'd question what you call a battlecruiser, and note that it is often easier to go by mods, PCU, weapon count, and grid size when explaining non-carrier pvp ships to people not already familiar with the specific ship/server.

Never :) LOL

@@BURN7Gaming True. I wish they would sell to colossal order. They could make a much better game.

If you start building the ships and the rover, you will succeed.

@@BURN7Gaming i build a frw but they werent good as this beautys😜

thanks

Mostly that was it. It's just that it was boring to have a ship that was good at everything. Usually I tried to have several ships with different purposes.

Thanks :)

I think so

I'm glad you like it! I've been trying to update it with small connectors for the fighter compliment, but so far, I've only managed to design a Clang Bomb...

@@marcusinfestus1333 I know you're pain. I've been building a converted battleship carrier with a landing deck, but I just end up breaking things and running out of room in the interior.

Not every server uses PCU limits as restrictive as the official servers. Some have PCU per ship, some have Block count per ship. Some use a mod that makes PCU only track power and weapons on a grid as a balance tool. Some just use powerful enough hardware they can ignore PCU entirely.

If you are going to play on the official servers from KEEN yes, it will be difficult.

yeah keen servers would be difficult but if your on different servers with upwards of 180000 pcu itd be pretty nice especially with some servers having a 20k block limit per ship

Yeah I generally don't call something a carrier unless it has at least double digit numbers of attack craft. The ones I've posted so far have 35 and 50 respectively. Don't think I'll go higher than that until I upgrade my machine lol. For space based carriers a gravity cannon for launching fighters can be fun.

I didn't build one either because if you don't have other players to control the fighters, there's no point in having one

Thank you

Because the Automaton update (Official name) Will make Carriers in Single Player even more tangible and useful.

I don't know who that is... Thanks for watching the video. :)

@@BURN7Gaming More than welcome, also, I think you know what it is XD

Ohhh I see what where you speaking about LOL. Initially I was thinking that you where speaking about another RU-vidr.@@JulianHawthorn

@@BURN7Gaming I have no idea how you could have thought that but ok XD

Me when I find out that there are edits that don't have sigma males in them. Wait til you find out that there are full 3-hour-long sigma male edits that they show on huge projection screen to a room full of people for a medium cash fee.

I think it's my favorite one. It has inspired some future builds for me I think

@@marcusinfestus1333 mhm me too 🤣

Thanks!

At one point I was in the same situation and I said the same thing, and now I have a youtube channel based on this game so you never know

I hope that Google translate translated correctly what you said, but from now on having a carrier will be much more interesting

That ship is OP :) LOL

Thank you 😃

grid AI update, 16 feb., imagine having 20 fighters covering you

Because I think that after we have the new update you will be able to have a fleet of AI drones

@@BURN7Gaming Except they're not meta, you won't have any such thing as the engine cannot support it

@@jakubrzepkowski2290useless.

@@BURN7Gaming only if they will be good as PB drones are.

yes they are nice

@@BURN7Gaming So no blueprint guess?

@@erdervv all links in the video description. In all of my videos. :)

@@BURN7Gaming Are you sure? The links i see are only for the showcased carriers, i meant the 3 grey target ships. EDIT: I am an idiot, i've just seen you wrote them under Extras. Sorry, i have to commend you for that, i honestly did not expect you to include the blueprint for the targets, most people wouldn't have.

@@erdervv thanks for checking out the creators build. :)

Thanks for the feedback. What I'm trying to do is that the long shot's not to be that boring for the eyes

This will not happen. To change that you have to change the whole game. It's easier to make a new game with a new engine

After the next update I don't believe they will. :)

@@BURN7Gaming Yeah, if what I've heard about drone capabilities is true they'll be an insane support asset.

What do you mean? If somehow I forgot your submission send me a private message on discord

@@BURN7Gaming Hah, don't worry about it, I made a large carrier some time ago and half-expected to see it here, didn't know you're taking submissions, maybe I'll make one in the future 👍

@@F8Code Ahhh. Ok I was stressed for a moment. These are discord event's, all the rules are posted there when they are made.

Not yet But you have mods for that

I hope that this will improve with the new update

It is an open world survival game. Where you can build and fly to different planets

It's Space Engineers