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Same though. 😬

same. ive been feeling the icy breath of the reaper, and it has occured to me of late that cholesterol exists.

@@bbear2695 what’s cholesterol??

I know what you mean. I find myself thinking, "Oh my god, I'm old enough to be Oliva Rodrigo's parent!"

Why did you have to say something like that and make me think about it 😭

I mean, not everybody has seen the original, so it's not that bad. But still...

... _WERE_ they *really* all *_that_* actively against it, though?? I mean .. they didn't exactly handle the situation with Tabby's boss as if they were squarely against it. 👀 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ But, also, Ezria was actually the most ironically wholesome couple and a huge fan favorite-right up until the later season retconned a bunch of shite into it that never should have been added just for the drama.

LITERALLY!!!!!!

@Booper Dooper I said _ironically_ wholesome. Her age made it questionable-but their actual relationship with each other was otherwise relatively healthy, if he had been younger OR if she had been a legal adult[ and had not began their relationship /under false pretenses /with a lie]; particularly, compared to many of the other relationships that happened on that tv show. (My words were chosen quite intentionally, although leaving an S off at the end of 'later seasons' was accidental.) The fact that she was above the legal age of consent and was in fact consenting, as well as actively deceived him about her age, might not make a difference to you(and that's fair enough either way)-but it would make a difference legally[ if the case ever were to actually be tried in court], and it makes a difference psychologically or morally-speaking as well. (Statutory Rape is not the same offense as Child Molestation, for a legitimate reason; and a teen might not be an adult yet, but they are also not still a child either. Teens ARE at a completely different stage of overall ability for comprehension and brain/body development than a child is, even though they are not quite on the same level as what a fully-fledged adult is either, and that is relevant and does matter somewhat in general.) It was always complicated and messy and unfortunate, and understandably not for everyone, but it wasn't originally quite so completely and totally creepy. The Ezra/Alison reveal occurred at the beginning of the second half of the 4th season, the reveal that he knew exactly who Aria was even when they first met happened at the very end of the second half of season 4. (The entire tv series was 7 seasons long.) That's a little further than just halfway through the tv series-especially when considering the fact that the PLL tv series always only aired half of a season in one stretch of time, with a minimum of 4 months between when the first half of a season finished airing and when the second half of that season would start. And only the tv show's writers' room knows if the second half of a season was even planned ahead for at the same time as the first half was written or was not even thought up at all until later on; but it is at the very least probably quite unlikely that those twists were already planned way back in the beginning of the tv series, especially since those reveals never even existed at all in the books. If those reveals had never happened in the tv series either, the relationship still would have been questionable and understandably not approved of by everyone, but at least it wouldn't have been completely or totally reprehensible and creepy almost regardless of whether they had even been the same age or not[ like it ended up being after season 4]. (But at least they did actually break up after that[ specifically because of that reason], and did not just immediately get back together again either; because that would have been even worse. But I'm not here arguing over whether they should or shouldn't have continued their relationship after his past involvement with Alison and prior knowledge of Aria's youthful age was revealed at all-I'm just saying, before that information was revealed, their relationship wasn't quite so undebatably despicable[ although individual personal-mileage would of course still vary]. But[, because of that individual personal-mileage], you are absolutely free to disagree.🙂) Ezra gets arrested in book 3, and then released without being convicted of anything, but does lose his job. He moves out of town and is never seen again until Aria contacts him in book 10, but eventually she stops trying to rekindle their relationship together after he has some involvement with some girl other than her. (There were originally only 8 books planned, when the tv series first started-but the popularity of the tv series caused the book series to be extended twice as long than was originally planned.) Which isn't truthfully that much more extreme than what happened in the tv series, at all, really.

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 we actually find out he did know who she was, her age, and all. So her "deceiving him" was actually not a thing. That's about when we found out he'd been with Allison when she was even younger than Aria. And that's about where even the most die hard fans gave up on it

Yes or I seen a lot of people saying Spencer and Toby. Honestly any one else besides Ezra.

@@wonderlucky1912 yes. Exactly. Fitz is such a glorified creep

As I remember, Aria and Ezra tried to have a baby but they weren't able to and after a while, they were contemplating adoption so, I guess that's why. But yeah...there were better options

You should watch Pretty Little Liars The Perfectionists !!! Alison is one of the main characters in it and it addresses her relationship with Emily and they have kids :)

I wanted Hanna to adopt lol

An ending only a women and a gay man can make up

@@Needler13 could you explain this a little more pls? /gen

Imagine in season 2 they manage to bring them back and it actually ends with Aria leaving him. One can only dream

@@zircobyte they can't explain it

she already had that realization in the last season and ezra as well

Yeah I wish that was not included

I’m so sorry

Wouldve been better if they let that part in tbh

I would have loved to see that happen.

I wanted to see tabitha torture her rapist why didn't they show it

@@jadecarbo6324 I agree especially Tabby and Noa.

I'm glad they didn't have them do it. It's not like A was actually there, actively shocking them or pulling fingernails off their moms or something, if they didn't. Plus, it's nice when characters actually stick to their morals every once in a while-especially after we've already seen them slip and fall before, morally-speaking, and then climb back up again; after a certain point, it just feels undermining to me of any possibility of them actually not just being totally horrible people, despite any claims that they aren't. But it did make it morally incongruous with when they basically intentionally sent A after Chip before, even knowing what had happened to that one jock in the smurf costume. Then again, maybe that's actually what makes it make sense, since they're just constantly in this limbo of being tested to see if they are or aren't "their mothers' daughters" or 'just how far the apples did or didn't really fall from the trees' or whatever the whole entire series. idkk It only seemed pointless to me because it only lasted, like, 5 seconds. And we were rushing to the ending. But the false "falling action"/"resolution" or whatever afterward, before the final 'twist' right before the credits rolled, lasted kind of too long by comparison. I dunno, building things up and then only half-assedly delivering on it or completely deflating it entirely as if it was just red-herring[ but not even done right/well] was kinda this series modus operandi tho, I think. _(Like, there were just a LOTT of things that felt pointless to me , overall. So, by the end, that sort of thing barely even made me blink twice really? 🤷‍♀️ Loll)_

I am so glad I’m not alone with this thought! I never had any interest in watching PLL until I watched his nearly 8-hour masterpiece!!

same here lol

I wish he hadn’t gotten paid by hbo max to promote the reboot bc I would LOVE to watch him tear this season to SHREDS

Omg same lmao, i was so happy to see him get such a huge sponsorship but at the same time i was like "fuuuck, he has to be nice" lol​@penelopedick7156

Oh dammmnnn good catch. They did a lot of little references, the janitors names were Freddy and Jason

Yeah, the second Amanda said her name, I was like, “say what now? And she teaches the dancers like in Phantom? They’d better do something with that.” Also, the point of dancing the lead in Swan Lake is that it’s one dancer, two characters… and it’s not a ballet really done in highschool, so that felt like a reach for “the creepy ballet movie” reference. The Red Shoes would’ve been more interesting narratively

@@DearxMyxSongs it was already weird enough this school in the middle of nowhere had a premier level ballet program so it was extra disappointing they did nothing with it

Ohhh, I thought that was just a reference Amanda threw in there. I haven't seen the show.

you never know. if there’s a second season she might be the next villain lol.

What do you expect, RAS to make GOOD, non-self indulgent media?

Wtf

I mean.. it's not as if the original didn't also utilize the lost sibling trope, repeatedly.😅😅 ..😶 🤦‍♀️ Lolll (Did everybody love the Mona reveal, though? I can't entirely recall how reception was or not, back when it first happened.) I think the _real_ reason they lost that "mystery" element is because they went slasher/horror genre with it rather than mystery/thriller. Like, it wasn't so much how prominent it was, as I think it was just how they showed us A at all .. basically _before_ they had even been threatened via txt msg at all yet. And the way they showed us what it was all about, _before_ the girls even knew anything, even though it had happened to their mothers and not to them-rather than letting us discover things they did. It kind of answered questions before they were even asked, so-to-speak, which kinda sucked all the suspense out of watching the questions be answered later. But maybe that's just me, quibbling over semantics? idk

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 no you're right

@@jyjaeskz Thanks 😊

Your comment is so true, I didn't even realize how underwhelming it was until reading this! I don't know why but I suspected the principal during spirit week 😭

I can agree! I think it had a lot of solid pieces then fumbled the execution

Knowing they connected this to Riverdale makes me think if they do a S2 that somehow a witch will bring the Principle back to life and that'll be our A because in the first series everyone was A lol.

@@kgal1298 I think they’re definitely going to push into something supernatural if they made a point to connect it to Riverdale

I SAID THAT I HATED THE A REVEAL AND GOT DRAGGED 😭😭😭 but tbh it was so underwhelming it just sucked imo

😁 Just so you know that awkward cut to you standing off to a side like it was an abrupt after-thought was PERFECT comedic timing! Adding to the effect that half of you was off camera also helped sell the absurdity of Archie standing by that tree, waiting for Imogen to look, when any kind of obstruction could’ve moved in the way at that distance.

Yeah I wanted to see her mom unleash on Steve. They built up the storyline only to have minimal fallout.

@@BellesView Because, they downplayed how creepy that shite actually was, much like they downplayed how creepy shite with Tabby's boss actually legit was too.

( Not to mention, there was still totally lots of room for stuff with Mouse and the whole her actual biological dad situation too. )

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 I agree. Idk why they didn’t fully tackle predatory behavior.

The moms truly disturbed me actually, out of all the moms Davie might have changed the most. But Corey was strught up Psyco for what she did to her daughter and they just brushed it off? I mean all of the moms were manipulative and not great parents, Sidney scored some points when she straight up tried to beat Wes up, but none of the moms had redeeming qualities. (For me personally) The mothers were their children's true bullies. I hated Chip from the moment I saw him. Totally knew about the nice guy act when I learned about the SA I thought to myself if they would go there and well they did. Also the sherif was murder and they all just sat together at Christmas??? 😂 The show was alright, loved how they incorporated the slasher genre.

​@@celinejvr7he Sheriff survived and even if he died, it's not like anyway liked :p

@Ö i hate that when we still have so much regressive, romanticized portrayals of abusive behavior, a singular instance of a show calling out that behavior feels like a victory. thank you for drawing attention to how we shouldn't accept such low standards just because the average portrayal is skewed to below the bare minimum.

@@58209 I think you can blame the success of “romance” novels/film series like TWILIGHT, SHADES OF GREY, and 365 DAYS.

Lol and yet Tabby still hang around Wes afterwards even after his creepy behaviour

@@berryrl9 yea that and ezra and aria adopt a baby from a girl who's the same age as aria was when ezra started grooming her🙄🙄

@@berryrl9 I hated that. Like why didn’t she quit?

is this a fact? cause i can see them writing it in lol

Oh god no stop lol

Please no lol

Alison does wear a black wig like a certain girl next door we know…

I couldn't remember if she actually wrote that or not. (Or only in Imogen's later nightmares) Hmm...... Maybe the og A. Waters herself actually did it, and will come back to haunt them all in season 2?? 🙀👀👀

i assumed she was murdered by A!

@@jifij89 me too! That's incredibly dumb if it's just "oh, your mom felt guilty AF"

Yeah i enjoyed it as well. I don't think it was great, but it was good and way better than i expected. The plot became more interesting as it went on and the charachters were quite likeable for the most part. However, i expected it to be more like pll, in a sense where A was actually utilized better. I know its a different show and i try not to compare it to the OG, but i think that there was literally no need for an A in this show. In the OG, A felt more central and very connected, but i wasnt feeling it here at all. The slasher thing was done well though, despite it being a bit cringy. Also the girls being liars were not carried out well imo. The relationships and the A reveal were are also meh. I hope its gets better if it has a second season, it has potential.

@Mickey Holmes Yes I agree with you. I have seen a lot of other PLL video reviews and it seems like a lot of people liked the campiness aspect of the show.

The thing is... I felt like Original Sin went for _actual_ campiness-whereas, PLL actually wasn't intended[ I don't think] to actually _be_ campy, at all; That was just, legit, the style of the times.

@Mickey Holmes Exactly!

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 I see what you mean. I was just stating what other people have said about PLL about the campiness chaos . Like the oddly specific text messages that each of the liars would get from A. For instance, “Call-off your techno boy toy or I tell the cops what you mom keeps in the lasagna box-A. (Yes that’s a real text message from the PLL show) I remember there was an episode where there was a parrot that gave Spencer a phone number. That’s what I mean by campiness chaos.

I think Mike’s Mic did a review on the first few episodes of Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin. I wonder if he will talk about the ending.

Totally agree 😂

Literally same, I just got the notification and was shocked. Can't wait to see what she has to say, but so far, what are your opinions on the new show?

@@shay7224 it wasn’t perfect but I actually really enjoyed it. I wouldn’t even be mad if there’s no season 2, i think the show wrapped itself up pretty well. :) what do you think?

Seconded, I'm interested to hear Amanda's thoughts, but I honestly loved this reboot even more than the original!

Ngl I love Amanda's videos but other then the obvious bad movies/shows, I disagree her a lot on reviews haha I haven't watched this reboot yet tho so I got no opinion here.

@@trinaq yes, it was definitely better than I expected!

Ezra only goes to prison in the books if I remember correctly

no. the series ended with ezra and aria's wedding

The show's ending was with Ezra and Aria's wedding. Ezra goes to prison in the books but gets out in the 2nd arc and dated another underage girl after that

Yes, I agree with you. I am really scared it’s going to go downhill.

@@wonderlucky1912 same, it reminds me, just a little, of chilling adventures of sabrina which is another work of Roberto, and how the first few seasons were amazing. Yet the more it dragged on, the worse it got. I hope that isn't the case here.

((I kinda don't actually want there to be a second season-I don't want it to have the chance to ruin what little goodwill the first season did surprisingly manage to garner with me in spite of me/itself//everything. 👀))

Same

I hated it and it was not entertaining to watch. I'm geniunely hoping it gets canceled.

Same, also I’m still not sure that Kelly is actually Kelly 🤷🏼‍♀️

nobody cares and season 2 is already filmed stay mad along with tjis girl in video lol @@GentM2015

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This! I wanted to watch A send petty messages while also being this omnipresent figure. There was nothing scary or interesting about OS ver of A.

Same

Okay, except .. not letting the parents know their children were being messed with, for most the series, really did seem counterproductive.

What I liked most is the way they sticked together. Faran rubbed me the wrong way in the beginning, but I think out of all the girls her mother was the worst to her.

Oh definitely fun trash, until the end, for me

if it was trash it wouldn't be so popular. its fine if you didn't like it. but it definitely wasn't trash if it gained a huge following.

@@claral3550 I don’t know if I believe that though. 13 Reasons Why also has a pretty big following but I don’t think very many people would call that top tier television. Also, it's ok to like trash. I feel like that's important too. I can recognize that something is deeply flawed and not very good quality while also having fun engaging with it.

I definitely feel like I’m looking back at the original kinder than I should, I haven’t revisited the first season in a LONG assed time but I assumed I was gonna hate it and that shit hooked me so I wanted to have a lot more fun with this but that enddiinngggg. I think a bit of reworking and I would have loved this

@@AmandaTheJedi the ending was very predictable, BUT I think I prefer it to what the original tried to do which was outsmart the audience and have like a million fake outs to the point that the story they laid out never paid off at the end. Both shows were kind of let downs with the ending but the ride along the way was cool and mysterious. I think the originals glamour and the rosewood girls are still too iconic to touch, it hasn’t been long enough yet to surpass them but the original sin ladies did a good job imo

Precisely, I agree with Tabby's constant movie references. Yes, we get it, she loves films, you don't need to make her quote a famous movie line every five minutes! 🙄

Yeah I felt like each kid had a really compelling story that.. honestly way more interesting than the ‘central’ conflict with A. I wish Mouse’s had gone harder but I think a whole show or movie could be dedicated to that kinda storyline.

You exactly summed up my feelings while watching the show! I enjoyed it, the movie references were too much, and the A reveal was underwhelming

Her movie reference for PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS was also wrong. There was no secret “brother no one talks about”; all of those kids were kidnapped and shut ins. The “secret isolated sibling” would’ve been more apt with SLEEPAWAY CAMP or the 2006 BLACK CHRISTMAS.

@@trinaq she is like a combination of Spencer Hastings and Veronica Lodge