The New Tactical Shooter That's Actually Real - Gray Zone Warfare Pre-Alpha Gameplay 

Doubt, cuz no field does Milsim with GBBRS only :(

man imagine the heat, humidity and the sweat

Pin of shame

Bro kinda wish drew still uploaded that sometimes

​@@luminusydoom2562I don't think this is a pin of shame ._.

Louder than GUNS? Heheh

@@OperatorDrewski people like you get special privileges that others don't, because of your sub count... companies should stop doing that.

@@anamegoesherewhat are you even talking about

@@anamegoesherebruh his job is to be an “influencer” This video was put out to influence his audience and let them know about the game. He got paid for it, or the fact that this game is “trendy” will give him some decent views, which equals decent payout from Google adds. That’s just how business works lol. Don’t like it, fuck off lmao

​@@anamegoeshereHow do you go about stopping companies from doing that?

Sound design and how the guns "feel" are def difficult but, are to me about the most important part like you said. Games like Tarkov, RoN, and some others keep me into them mostly just for the weapon design. I feel the devs will do better leading up to release for this given the feedback

@@quaveraI agree, and they seem like serious perfectionists when it comes to the graphics, so I’m sure they’ll try their best to improve anything else.

⁠​⁠@@quavera I always forget how cartoonish guns can sound in some games when compared to something like Tarkov side by side. Definitely a fixable issue though i’m excited to see all the improvements.

@@LittleMakwa Yeah, if BSG could make it so sound was localized accurately in space and actually always worked, it'd be the best out there.

Just like racing games....gotta have the right sound or it ruins it

I like frogs

@@GORILLA_PIMP frogs scare me

Nope they are sweet

I am from Siberia, Russia, and 10 years ago I was at Philippines. There was a hotel on a island, among the jungle. I was amazed how loud this frogs! It seemed to me, that they are more loud than a revving motorcycle. But at the same time, they gave some kind of relax and comfort feeling. Like a peaceful grandma's village.

@@ZeroSen07 😊

yeah i hope it has better optimization but game looks pretty good for pre-alpha.

​@@UmmKnownApeno bro they are releasing it this year or next at maximum

@@iwalkmygoose7732I’m sure they already planned to delay it

@@iwalkmygoose7732 if it realease this years they die this years mark those words

like 90% of trailer/pre alpha/release soon/incredible new extraction shooter game since years

LOL two different older builds for both the preview test and raw footage but I did indeed laugh at that one

@@TheDevildogGamer I thought I recognized your voice in the video. Are you a dev of this game or just someone who was invited to play w/ Drew?

@@sanguinesteven790 I'm one of the Community Managers for GZW and also help with creators :)

It's literally Tarkov

download escape from tarkov

@@INFJ-ThaneTr It's literally Gray Zone Warfare

Do you really CRAVE this type of game?

​@@JustDatBoi No, they said it just to rustle your jimmies

Cicadas irl will go silent if you get close to them or make a big noise.

Arma Reforger has this with birds and it works really well

@@LabiaLickerthey absolutely do (also nice username)

Also I noticed that the unsuppressed rifle sounds eerily similar to the og Fortnite AR from back when I used to play it

@@The_State_of_Oklahomato me it sounds like one of the AR’s from Pubg

we still need to save our self from space some day. but we did not do anything. even we have a mind to pull it off!!!

That's why F.E.A.R. and Trepang 2 exist bby

@@urosmamic4172 F.E.A.R changed my life as a kid

​@@urosmamic4172F.E.A.R. still scares me instant classic when i played it at 8 years old i had nightmares😂

i mean ig most devs are afraid of making them to OP uk, like not missing shots and hearing and that uk really take all the fun out of it for a majority of the player base uk

there are very good way to optimize the render target to cost very very little.. but that's on them to optimize!

Picture in picture is way better tho. Hardware will get better so we need games to push the agenda.

Didn’t expect to see AiAngel here dropping developer knowledge 😩

Like Squad with Anti-Aliasing and Clarity?

@@WAY2PWNdeveloper knowledge lol 😂 it’s a basic fact because 70% of games do this. And some have figured it out. It just seems that this studio somehow feels like they need to reinvent the wheel again

It will forever be a trash game

Lmaooo

Starfield will be fine without my guy ..grow up

​@@a-animal1206video game grow up are u serious? Fallout 4 was shit when it first came out for someone who never played fallout b4

@@TheTAEclubStill crying, smh.

Yeee :D

@@OperatorJackYT Really hope they add some CAR-15s, A1 and A2 carry handles and such. Let me go all old school

Real

@@OperatorDrewski Just wanted to say thanks for making these videos. Your videos got me into Milsim/tactical games back in like 2018. You rock, hope to be able to play an event with ya'll some day, like a large scale Arma op or something similar

@@austingivens244very much appreciate that brudder I wish i could play arma with every bit of you guys…. If only arma 3 could host higher pop servers without crashing and 2fps lol

I just heard that too, so cool! The shots themselves sound kind of garbage but that was a neat detail. (edit to add) Oh and the weapon animations are super cool too. Hitting the forward assist on a rifle or doing a magazine/slide tap to get the BCG or slide back into battery is a nice touch.

@@GMan56M very true! It's amazing the attention to detail for the weapons themselves but I agree the shots definitely need improvement.

Super cool detail, but why would he be holding the trigger down like that?

@@marincusman9303 it's actually a bad habit to do because they let the reset determine when they take the next shot. A lot of beginners do it so I assume the developers thought it is proper technique. I just like that the reset is clearly there.

@@ammonpluim3479 I agree, I’m trying to fix that habit too. Just funny cause in the video he’s holding it like 5+ seconds until he reloads lol. But yeah super cool to hear it

Breakpoint was dooky imo

@@EVLfreak666 Wildlands was a lifeless, boring game aswell. But it looked good and people still liked it apparently

​@@birbdad1842 breakpoint feels more alive then wildlands and from how the equipment looks i don't remember how it was in wildlands, breakpoint feels more realistic if you use the immersive/realistic mode and the landscape is pretty good, apart from that there are things that trow me off, like some animations, boring missions ( like the ones where you need to talk to the 3 scientists for blonde rich guy ) and the fact that the option to remove drones is as usefull as a revolver underwater, on top of that unisoft stopped giving updates wich creates bugs, i encountered a bug where one of the wolves big dogs was under the map and there were some places where you character would do the animation to get down from something and it would bug you under the map killing you

7 years later, Ghost Recon Wildlands is still my all-time favorite game. I couldn't even bring myself to finish Breakpoint. There are some things that Breakpoint added that were great like injuries, being able to carry bodies and injured squad mates, and the ability to cut through fences. However, the map being lifeless compared to Wildlands and the story being completely unbelievable, plus futuristic drone enemies and being made as a looter shooter were what made Breakpoint a large step backward. I'm hoping that Project Over will fix all of those and they allow us the option of first AND third person.

its not now. breakpoint is still a better made game in gameplay aspects and RP aspects. wildlands has only better story mode. breakpoint wins in enviromental fights, vertical fights, graphics and sound design.@@EVLfreak666

Not me coming here after having JUST watched your video. Love your stuff brother, I hope this community treats this game well.

ARMA Wasteland was the coolest shit ever. It had a profound impact on my young mind

I’m sure they’d have to start over for that one haha

Ue5 arma 4 when

@@OperatorDrewski When you get bored from this new game

​@@OperatorDrewski That will suck.I hate unreal engine,most fps games in unreal engine has this generic feel to it.

I agree , I hate unreal engine as well ​@@contra7631

@@OperatorDrewskiArma 4 with an engine that can do tunnels? A man can only dream...

But you feel fatigue. Don’t have to look at your watch for that. It should be on the screen in games.

Have audio cues, like have your character pant Or, have your vision tunnel slightly or something

That's a great idea. I love the clean UI look as well. Some games just mass tons of crap on the UI and it really takes away the immersion

u have a fitbit, proud of you bud

I wouldnt necessarily say that withholding information makes the player get more involved. In some cases, yes. Having imprecise mag checks withholds information and puts the player more within the world where they dont have ESP to know the exact bullet count of a magazine. However withholding something like a stamina meter doesn't actually put the player in the shoes of their character. IRL you can feel yourself get tired, and absent that physical sensation you need _something_ to communicate that to the player (whether its a screen effect, audio queue like panting, or visible bar on screen). You might not know your heart rate irl, but you do know when your lungs are burning from exhaustion and about how much further you can push yourself before you start slowing down. Similarly, in EFT you have colored body sections on screen to tell you where you are hurt. You cant physically experience the pain your character is in, so you need that pain communicated in some other way or else you as a player are actually less involved. Especially in cases where it doesn't directly impact the handling of your character. If the player knows less than their character does, there is a problem.

if theres anything ive learned from helldivers, there will still be plenty of both, theyll just be mocked a lot more relentlessly (and thank god for that)

No it really doesn't at all.

@@TherealRTZ973how doesn’t it?

​@@TherealRTZ973found the metasweat

They plan to have PVE only servers on launch iirc (as in you can choose to just play PVE only, there will still be PVEVP servers)

good eye! I never would've noticed that

I can already smell my cpu cooking haha

Had to slow down playback speed to really see this lol. It kinda looked like they were but not really. If you slow it down you really see the casings from the guy infront of him bouncing off the truck. Good catch!

Cry some more

Well that's unreal engine 5 Don't let the graphics fool you, so far gameplay wise it's very boring and unfinished

Yet it really isn't. Great concept, yet they won't pull it off correctly sadly. We've seen this with every single "tactical/milsim" shooter.

@@lerandomguy2109It's unfinished because it's Pre-Alpha lol.

​@@Tavis15ifydid you play the game? What did you get to assume this?

I noticed that too. And the eotech holo sight. Like like they going in on the guns and accessory realism too. Pretty cool

I'm pretty sure *John Romero* is working on this and that's got me hella excited

Optimization, yea.. No one does that anymore

​@@Nevvalth team said that they will try there best when it comes to optimization but the game run on UE5 at it's highest limits so gotta grind for that gamer pc 😅 Unless they pull it off somehow and make it work for the mid end computers

I would love to see like True AI that can answer and respond to what you say to them and ones that will talk to each other, work together and come up with new ways of ambushing and attacking so Every encounter is different .

Star Citizen has been in development for like 30 years mate

@@JostVanWairBecause it pushes the technical boundaries of gaming like few other games

the frogs, birds n crickets dont even completely stop, the volume just ducks down when you're shooting. still a great detail

Ikr i dont want to sweat playing a game, i want to feel nice playing, maybe smoke a cigarette and talk with my mates mess around. I want the hurry up and wait experience, i want to feel like im still fighting guerrillas but not so seriously

@@jeancorzo4755 ideal arma experience is 2-5 hours of waiting/driving/patrolling while talking and 50 minutes of action imo, the social part of arma makes it for me personally and i really hope this game has something thats sticks and hits similar to that feeling of being a logi/transport driver/pilot for a milsim group

Arma 3 ?

@@kaliphri9590gonna be nothing like arma 3

@@xancake5092 obviously, i wasnt saying it should be, im saying i hope it has something that hits the same at some point or another, like running supplies or something similar from your spawn to captured areas to get friendly AI or something along those lines, something that breaks the typical "throw me into a fight" pace- if its just fly in and fight and nothing else the game is gonna go the route of tarkov, aka stagnate and sit on the brink of death constantly with just enough players to know that its still playable but enough cheaters and losers amongst those few players to make you wonder if its even worth it

Same as we all should be... Weve honestly seen too many disappointments when games "look too good".

@@Invertmini1212is that game really considered as "looks too good"? No way man. :D

@@ravioli-ravioli much better than the horse shit games we get now. tarkov is such a ran through concept of a game and i feel like its the only style of game people ever talk about anymore other than the shitty excuse for steam games such as unrecord and these really stupid ideas for games that would be better as standalone mods for other games that already exist. were in a day and age where people are releasing games that feel like DLC rather than the full game. this seems really well in depth already and most the animations and assets they have used aren't just the standard crappy reused assets from other games. its looking promising you gotta admit that part

​@@Therealsalerno i mean it's promising, but i just disagree with that whole "looks too good to be real" concept, because it's looks like a generic 2024 shooter on ue4/5 with good graphics, and like that's all. Plus half of the shit is came straight from Tarkov (the whole mf inventory ui, the eat/drink/heal in raid with fancy animations, modding guns, etc..) like the we saw these things already in existing (and still alive and popular) games, so why they need make another one? I think i'm gonna try it anyway, but for me it's gonna be probably one of these games for one evening and that's all (i still have my CoD and Tarkov to fill the rest of my free time). sry for bad eng tho

@@ravioli-ravioli aye man you said it better than i could that's a really good insight

Ackchyually its called a 'magazine' not a 'clip'

​@LabiaLicker he's talking about the video clip...

@@TheMason7125 looking at his profile picture and name- and the fact he put ackchyually- i think he knows and was doing that to be goofy and not an actual correction (since most of drews fans are gun guys and would find that funny, or at least i did)

@@LabiaLicker lmao

its actually immensely impressive that they goes from funny zombie shooty shooty to an all out AAA level game

Mhm. Madfingers makes hella banger games, so call me surprised.

They had full kits on so they are trained personal it seems

@@PushSomeHeavyWeight One of them ate 4 rounds of 5.56, in a yellow tank top

@@iontiodau what do you think the tank stands for?

@@iontiodau that tank top is made of titanium and an armor plate is inside it.

Asians in tank tops are simply built different

To be fair, Fear 1's ai is more the illusion of intelligence than intelligence itself. The voice coms do not affect the Ai behavior, but them announcing what they are doing makes it feel more dynamic. There is also the fact that fear has extremely simplistic combat environments, which allowed the devs to create a bunch of routines the ai could execute utilizing the entire space effectively. When you scale up to these large open maps, it becomes significantly harder to get the ai to act predictably and intelligently based on the players' actions. Still, fear 1 is awesome.

Nah, nothing is as realistic as Tarkov AI with SAIN mod plonked into them.

YEEAAHHH

Imagine how much more immersive things would be in Reforger? Or Arma 4 when it eventually releases on said new engine. They just had a massive update for the AI and stuff in Reforger too which will change things quite considerably.

arma 3 could never in a million years even come close to a 1/3 of this games current state.

@@LabiaLicker why not? The map looks like tanoa, arma 3 has smarted AI, better sounds, and mods give you all the same medical stuff and more. If it’s down to just sheer graphical fidelity well then I guess you’d be right. But I play for the game play and I know I can get this same experience from arma, fps hitches included. Enter arma reforged with run smoother, and looks better than arma 3 and I’d love to hear your Argument there.

@@2MinuteReview 100% correct. There is nothing stopping Arma 3 modders from creating a server that plays EXACTLY like Grey Zone Warfare.

@@LabiaLicker When was the last time you played arma 3 ?? 😂😂 2014?? I can name 3 modes/ servers with the same premise nd execution as this game in arma

nanite actually. Lod popping as we knew it is largely gone in ue5. Nanite dynamically reduces triangles on the fly all the time as you move. So even parts of a mesh can lod dynamically.

@@prototypechannel6975 yep and it also minimizes asset files because you don't need to have 5 different LOD meshes and textures available per asset, ready to pop in any moment. Just a single scalable high quality mesh. Now if CDPR's contributions to improving the Unreal 5 cpu utilization, and that could carry over to games like this one, that'd be even more interesting. Lets see what happens in a year's time

I read that they havr Jonathan Ferguson (the Gamespot/Royal Armories Museum guy) as a consultant for the firearms

I read that they have Jonathan Ferguson (the Gamespot/Royal Armouries Museum curator guy) as a consultant for the firearms.

why do they think they’re running an alpha pre-release?

Slaves marketed as developers cant hire.

Why do you think they were even allowed to play the game, 1st we can get a look at it 2nd to get feedback from actual players

Yeah this might be the one that finally gets me to upgrade. Unless DLSS works some miracle on the performance.

@@Lithenius I think DLSS + less-than-4k screen res can do fair wonders. The game world does seem very dense though, kinda makes me wonder the choice of location when more easily optimizable worlds could have been made.. Anywho, it's still an early build so cautious optimism seems to be the way to go for now

2 different games.... classified differently....

@@domingofung ?

It kind of reminds me of the earlier days of Operation Flashpoint (as in what became Arma, not what Codemasters bastardised with Red Dragon/Red River that was an entirely different developer when Bohemia walked away) with a lot of the modded multiplayer missions like capture the Island. You'd have a starting base then expand out by capturing towns from AI, and if there were enough on the server, other players on the other factions. You got points for holding more capture points to build out your base and upgrade buildings to produce things like tanks and choppers that could ether be AI controlled or commanded by the player. This seems to be along the same line. Just one big open persistent battlefield. The same game modes were carried over to the Arma series too, so things got more immersive and impressive as the tech improved.

By the way so I was thinking about looting other players if they die... the question is always about the concept "if you lose everything, the weakest players always start leaving and eventually you have a low playerbase" versus "if there is no loot, people won't find PVP satisfying in this type of game and the game might not take off very well". In that case, why don't extraction shooter developers think of a middleground? Let's say you can bring up to two primary firearms (as in, non-sidearm) to a lobby from your base. One you can mark as your main weapon, which you will keep on death. The other can be looted by other players, if you brought a second primary firearm. Basically it allows players to consider bringing another weapon for extra firepower, which if they do, essentially becomes their stake. The players that don't obviously have one benefit that they could use that slot for an extra weapon they loot during the match. This works best with a fixed ingame vendor economy without a "free market for players", though. At worst, it's possible most players will just loot lesser quality firearms in general that get picked as a popular cheap backup weapons. You could also flip the above idea on its head and just allow a couple basic firearms to be unlootable (e.g. some kind of starting unmodded M4 or something), while you can make/find/buy far better guns that are always lootable. Of course ammo for the unlootable firearms shouldn't be super difficult to acquire because what's the point of keeping the gun if you can't use it, anyway. As for armou and rigsr, it might be a little too crazy to allow people to keep it because those with the best armour can just infinitely use it and you just have to acquire it once. Same for if someone can always use the best rig and carry more stuff. It would make sense to always allow these to be looted, but that's my opinion. As for items, the SafeLock seems fair to just guarantee that you can keep a few items. That's nice. I just don't recommend going the Tarkov route where people who pay more get better containers. No matter how you look at it, it introduces an advantage to people who just paid extra to get that advantage.

Absolutely not.

There are PLENTY of games that use faction warfare? Helldivers was released recently, these guys have been working on this for some time.

@@AHHHb0bSaggotplus this system didn't wait helldivers 2 to be introduce

be positive

​@@jdiggidydog he's probably been burned before. I bought 2042 for example, natural to be apprehensive