The NFL Is Adding A European Division 

I hate that as a New Englander, that'd be brilliant.

@@shinigamiryan5837 Right? Like all I'm saying is that if you want English fans to really rally around a team then make them the bad guy. Just look at English soccer fans if you dont believe me.

Im english and as cool as this would be it wont ever happen, the red coats massacred a lot of people, specifically in south africa also the english and european public will keep hating american football until it changes its name, rugby and american football are both games created from football, but to europeans, american football is the ripoff thats why it wont take off

@@Gallalad1 its not that they love to be or do, theyre just really fucking toxic and bratty

I'm with this take

CFL is actively blocking them.

They don’t want to kill the CFL

The NBA is planning to potentially put an expansion in Mexico City. That would work for the NFL as well. I'm for international expansion in all pro sports, with that being said I agree that we should start with the Americas first. To use an analogy the NFL is like an expanding city, it would be better to expand on the nearest land and not a spot with thousands of miles of ocean between them.

The problem is Canada has their own league

@@codfishish199 it doesn’t make much money though, the government pays to keep it alive and is why they didn’t play throughout Covid, An NFL team in Toronto could do as well as the blue jays and raptors, also finding an owner isn’t hard as they could propose this to MLSE who owns the Raptors and the maple leafs

I think it could work, definitely NOT a division though. There are some tough logistical issues, but the NFL has handled worse before. Also, there are 7 MILLION (not just american) fans in the UK, which is more than a a good amount of NFL teams. If i think the nfl is expanding. I think its going to probably be in america and south america though. (Im also an eagles fan btw)

100% this. The novelty will die off, people won’t be willing to give up time watching their “soccer” teams or rugby etc to take on American Football. In the uk you just don’t really grow up with a passion for American football, it’s not played in schools or the parks, you rarely see attire in stores unless it’s like a raiders hat that people don’t even know what it really is. You have to acquire and interest in the sport. For me I got into it because I have American relatives, I’ve watched the Super Bowl every year for 15+ years, I can’t really sit through regular games because it just doesn’t keep you glued like soccer does. That’s another issue for the European market. We have this new ELF league in Europe, unfortunately with no Uk team right now, they should monitor how this does, and potentially form a post season tour + tournament were ELF teams take on CFL and NFL teams etc for an American football version of the Club World Cup. Of course you’d expect the nfl teams to steam roll it but it’d be fun nevertheless.

1. expansion would almost never happen in canada per conflict with the cfl 2. expansion would almost NEVER happen in mexico 3. the nfl has been planning european expansion for years 4. germany has more nfl fans (and more avid nfl fans) than the uk 5. a london franchise has been in discussion since circa 2018 6. during the nfl europa days EVERY TEAM was located in germany because the uk spain and nederlands franchises were insolvent (though the claymores and monarchs were at least decently popular) and 7. germany is the only nation in europe which has proven capacity to FULLY support a big league franchise 8. especially the city of frankfurt which LOVES american football for some reason 9. germany spearheads an existing european american football league (the EFL) which has grown rapidly in recent years 10. england has almost nothing of that caliber

You know if it happens I can see two teams in London and two teams in Germany.

Canada wouldn't be worth it, it's not really a new broadcast market and is already highly NFL saturated. People who want to watch the NFL in Canada are all already doing so. They don't care about attendance since that is small fry. London would be more profitable since it would open up new broadcast deals and value to an 'unsaturated' market. (Over 10 million people live in London) It would also be the beach-head in trying to develop more interest and even teams elsewhere in Europe. It might not be viable to have a team on it's own in London but in any plan for a European division London is an obvious choice, particularly since the owner of Tottenham Hotspur, Daniel Levy, made sure to design the new stadium in such a way that it could easily operate as an NFL stadium with a retractable pitch and giant NFL-grade locker rooms. The retractable pitch means that it can hosts Tottenham matches and NFL games with a days notice and without the NFL games adding wear and tear to the pitch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o9kDe1eOn64.html Finding stadiums will be the big problem for the NFL here. The NFL is really set on every game being a big high event in a large well-equipped stadium, they won't accept playing in smaller venues but will the larger ones either want or be able to accommodate their schedule?. Building their own one seems like a really big risk. (And likely quite difficult with it almost certainly being well away from the city centre of whatever city they're operating in)

No other League like the nfl 🇺🇲, but thankyou for not forgetting about 🇲🇽

wasn't there a USFL team in Barcelona? the Dragons? or was that some other random league that opened and folded over the years?

that was SOOO promising to see the passion in Germany. Wish i went to that game as well. Already planning a trip for next season! I appreciate the long form response here

how prevalent is the GFL and ELF in Germany? Do you think ELF teams would join the NFL?

@@Max-Films to be honest the GFL isn’t relevant and competitive at all and I don’t know much about that Leguage! The ELF is more promising but still no comparison either the NFL. The ELF starts to bring more and more fans to the local teams, the Leguage home game average is still at 4.000 but growing. But both Leguages are no match to the NFL. Europe needs some big Investors behind a team and bring some American stars oversees and build a team around them. All of them could join, but it will only be the name and the logo that joins, the team, the staff, the facility has to change!

Koln centurians

You and me both!

love to see a brit that’s an nfl fan 🙌🏽. But as an american I don’t think the second point is the best of recommendations, as the teams are playing for the top picks in the draft. I like the first point tho and I’ve always wanted them to do that

1. Actually that’s probably the push to have a NFL division in Europe. They’re filled with the biggest rivalries and are heavily geographically based. If London proves to be successful to football I can see them having 2 different NFL teams in London. Based on rivalries I could see their being another team in Manchester and those 2-3 teams being in the same division. 2. No clue how it works. In the NBA/MLB/NHL they have a dart lottery for the top pick so that teams wouldn’t intentionally try to lose to get it. It doesn’t hurt rivalries (except ego). I know some bears fans who wouldn’t mind being 2-15 as long as the 2 wins were against the packers.

As an American that loves your version of football, picking your side is a lovely rite of passage that you shouldn't deny yourself. It's a fun process. You get established fans vying for your support, you get to learn about all the teams, and even a bit of geography. You also find yourself tied to the place. For example, I chose Portsmouth FC (when they were still fan-owned) and now I'm quite enamored with England's south coast. I would HATE to see a couple of American premier league clubs. They would just be in NY and LA anyway - two of America's worst cities 🤮. I LOVE that I got to choose Pompey through a long process instead of being born into a team like I was with other sports teams here.

In the states there used to be this type of rivalry, at least in the bay. The San Francisco 49ers and (then) Oakland raiders used to have games. But the games were wayyy to violent. Eventually we just stopped having regular seasonal games together after there were shootings at these games

They should not have a team in the National key word Football League. Start your own EFL

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They need to change the way transfers work in the nfl then.

That would actually be a compliment as Croatia is one of the greatest sporting nations in the world & one of the most beautiful ones

better than being in america

Athens Spartans?

@@BaconHairFish bro imagine west coast teams travelling to Athens to play 💀

@@BaconHairFishthat would be the most badass football team

@@BaconHairFish Sick team name btw!

Im not the only greek fan yeee

we put a ton of work into this one!

@@FrankMichaelSmith you can tell just off the intro

I agree, this would have made for a nice chapter

formula 1 tackles these logistics problems really well, I wouldn’t be surprised if the NFL discusses with them how to figure it all out

You are looking at this backwards. Europe has twice the population of America. That's free money. You make it work

@@therealallpro yeah but Football is also twice if not triple times more popular in the US.

I think that's why he wants a division, that way you can gain TV rights money in new territories (Or rather more lucrative deals) with a local division playing at appropriate times for local audiences. (Given the direction of the time difference the European games would be during waking hours for American audiences) Then you can have interest from the new audiences in the playoffs even if you don't adjust the times for US only games for them.

@@tobyjohnson9136 I agree that's the best approach, but what happens when the London Wooden teeth play the 49ers in SF? That's what I think is the biggest difficulty. 8 hour time difference is gonna cause a headache for that. They're gonna need to add a permanent morning slot to make sure that games aren't all night time or midnight in the UK

THEY SHOULD NAME THE SPANISH TEAM THE SPANISH INQUISITION OMGG

Barcelona Dragons 🐉

Johnny is a huge inspiration. I take that as a serious compliment

That's always been my doubt... I'm a Giants fan. Went to a few Wembley and it is a great way for fans to get their NFL fix but every team is represented in the stands. English fans are known for their loyalty, just look at the Championship attendance figures. But I would never give up supporting the Giants just because a Lomdon team has popped up and I imagine most of the UK based fans are the same.

I’m all for experimenting. Has the potential to be really fun

@@22dontmiss Lol not really unfair because any team could make up their own language which is what they do with the code name playcalls.

@@22dontmiss not really, what’s gonna happen is a team won’t be “only german” they will be americans who play american football living in germany.

@@22dontmiss others teams aren’t supposed to know the plays, also, watch film and learn formations like grown men that play football do?

@@22dontmiss I think that only being able to pick German players would be a disadvantage

I think if the NFL should put ONE team on the UK, to avoid that issue. An an american the sport is a lot more fun when you have a local team to root for, so I think that won’t be an issue.

Appreciate you Rishav

May I ask, why the Jets?

@@yourdreams2440 I like an underdog and want to pick a team that was winning when I first started watching also I like New York as city

@@kierandudson44 Could have went with the G-men too? 😃

Fr Fr they do need it also and make college Football big in England

It would be difficult. At the highest level the skills and physical demands are quite different.

thank you Ben!

or you make it that the europe teams first play all their away games, than their home games and if a team plays a europe team twice they just stay here for a week

send the Chargers back to San Diego, they have no fans in LA and rent the stadium from the Rams

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Good start, but switch Mountain NFC to AFC (AFC heritage teams) with East AFC to NFC (NFC heritage teams), and put a team in Vancouver in the NFC west instead of Austin, Also switch JAX and HOU, so JAX and MIA are in the same division, and DAL and HOU are in the same division. NFC: West: LAR, SF, AZ, SEA, Vancouver North: MN, GB, DET, CHI, Toronto East: DAL, NYG, PHI, WAS, HOU South: TB, NO, ATL, CAR, TEN AFC: Central: BAL, CIN, CLE, PIT, IND Mountain: LAC, LV, KC, DEN, Mexico City Colonial: MIA, BUF, NE, NYJ, JAX Europa: London, Berlin, Rome, Dublin, Paris

The logistics would be difficult but if the nfl is able to get a another agreement with Tottenham Hotspur’s then they will have a stadium (the Tottenham Hotspur’s stadium is a dual purpose stadium for football(soccer) and the NFL which has a retractable soccer pitch to reveal a NFL field. It would then probably mean the teams in America would have to fund all the costs for going to England all though the nfl could continue to fund the trip. While the logistics of getting teams to England would be difficult I think the logistics of the England team going to America would be harder since they would most likely play all 8 games in a row. So the England team would need to set up a home base in America for training and other purposes the easiest way to have this would be if a NFL team is willing to share their facilities but the next easiest way to use the facilities of a college team and the hardest/most expensive way is if the England built their own facilities in America and after the team have a home base in America the logistics would be similar of any other team playing a away game It’s would be difficult but it certainly isn’t impossible although the players would probably be the best payed players in the league since most of them would likely be American. But problems can be ironed out so a franchise in England would certainly be possible england is the most likely country in Europe to get a franchise first and then other European countries would come after if it even is on the table since I am only aware of the NFL wanting a franchise in England at the moment and I haven’t heard of the nfl wanting a franchise in other European countries like Germany for example although Germany is the most likely place for a second European team

Yea the divisions are unclear. I did loads of research and it seems like 6 divisions of 6 is the most likely, but nobody knows for sure

Time zones as well