The NHL Playoffs have a ref problem 

Kelly sutherland is going after you now 😂

nhl saw you post this video and probably tried to stop you from exposing them

Exposing the truth. Officiating has been historically bad in every sports league on the planet this year

Appreciate the effort.

Its likely because RU-vid hired all the rejects Microsoft just fired from Bethesda, propagandists stay in the same area usually. Dont expect anything to work at RU-vid. Ever.

Why? You can't be on the ice if you're bleeding, that's the rule. I do agree a penalty should of been called, but the end result would of been the same - Hughes has to have his bleeding stopped before he can go back on the ice, that rule's been in place for awhile now

@@KptKrunch9481 Hughes was back on the ice about a minute later so even if he had to go to the bench he would've been available for the powerplay. Obviously McDavid dominated the Canucks last night whenever he was on the ice, and 4 minutes without having to deal with him would've made a huge difference imo, powerplay or not.

@@KptKrunch9481 because *cause and effect* is a thing, brother.. If you’re going to acknowledge *(effect)* that he’s bleeding and enforce that rule, you must also acknowledge that *(cause)* something must have made him bleed then. So it’s pretty absurd to enforce the bleeding rule without also enforcing the rules that should precede it like penalizing whoever caused the bleeding. If they weren’t gonna call the double minor for McDavid, they should have let Hughes stay on the ice and just ignored both infractions altogether rather than arbitrarily enforce

I’m an Oilers fan and I agree with you. Calls were missed on both sides and it impacted both teams. McDavids high sticks would have helped Canuck’s a lot if he was off, but Oilers also do great on a power play, so the missed calls made them miss scoring chances they could have had. Just overall the refing needs to be better, it think it’s better for it to be called tight then little scattered calls like this

@@XxCorvette1xX It's a safety issue - nothing to do with 'cause and affect' . Doesn't matter how you were cut, stick, skate, puck, bit your own lip - if you're bleeding you have to go off the ice until the bleeding is under control. Just like if your helmet comes off you have to immediate leave the ice and cannot engage in the play. That's one thing Hughes can control - DO YOUR CHINSTRAP UP Hughes.

It has to be done to get the games competitive. If they don't call the minor stuff you could end up with 1 team have 10-12+ more penalty mins than another.

One term: game management. Becoming as scripted as WWE.

@@OWlsfordshirewhat’s wrong with that? If one team is breaking rules more often than the other team, don’t they deserve more penalty minutes? That’s the whole point of penalties and power-plays, to disincentivize rule breaking, no?

@@XxCorvette1xX It becomes boring to watch. You have to balance competition with entertainment.

It's called in a way to make sure 1 team wins. Not only the game but series. We've seen it time and time again. I've been saying this for years but nobody listens until it's their team involved

If the refs made every call right Oilers would have runaway with the game

@@ernestjensen3238 run away* A runaway is a person who ran away.

@@encycl07pedia-if you don't comprehend what I'm saying say that

@@ernestjensen3238 If you can't say what you mean, don't type. Learn English and this won't happen to you.

@@ernestjensen3238 Yea totally, Hyman hitting his own face with his stick is the same as Mcdavid hitting Hughes in the face for a double minor. The oilers were ass without Mcdavid on the ice he played 28 minutes lol. If he was out for 4 minutes, and canucks on pp they would have one. Let alone Kanes Slew foot on Hughes, or Ryan spearing hoglander only being a minor.

This specific game was unreal .... boarding left and right no call but calls a little hook or trip

It's been like this for near 30 years. Come on man!

He shouldn't be allowed to referee an NHL game period.

100%

Kind of like Mac Auley , who hates the Leafs.

Oilers have a brutal playoff history with him also. But we didn't hear this with CANUCKS HOMER KOZARI RIGGING IT IN GAME 1.

Yea that’s some high key Shoresy shit

As you saw he punished the cause and effect. He took Hoglander out with interference (2min) and then Ryan spearing (2min) and put em both in the box. Stop being fucking delusional. Two penalties infront of your eyes and you see one? Fucking bullshit, cupcake

Call the game by the book - The Hockey Guy

it is also the cause of the fights in many cases

@@Chosenlawmanand 50% trumps 20%. Oil will take that everyday!

I always hated that. My coaches always told me that if we lost the game because of one single call was or wasn't made, it was our fault for being in that situation. That being said, of the has to be near 1000 games that I played from 6-21, from House league to AAA to Juniors, the number of games my team lost due to one call made or missed can be counted on one hand...

Worse then just playing there calling inconsistent penalties

Any wonder the officials are surprisingly brutal just as the gambling companies and betting has become all pervasive and legal?

Thanks refreshing to hear - as an Oilers fan I wish all the calls were made, we do have a record setting PP. Trust me, the Canucks are much better off with the 'letting them play' style of officiating

He didn't even mention McDavid getting tripped into the boards after scoring. That could have lead to a serious injury.

​@@my3dviewsMcDavid was going over 30 mph. Dirty play.

@@duaneday5474 Canucks fans are fucking delusional, their whole gameplan to stop McDavid is interference. One missed high stick and they're somehow feeling like they're getting fucked over. We were something like 21st in the league in powerplay opps, we don't get beneficial officiating, WE NEVER FUCKING HAVE. Go back and look at the stats, we're always bottom of the league in PP opps. The leagues knows we have the deadliest powerplay so they think it's better to 'let them play' while McDavid gets mauled. If we had a penalty parade every game we beat the fucking brakes off of most teams, Canucks would be done in 4 if that's the way they want to play it.

Dude also missed the St. Louis tripping in 2019 that might’ve cost Boston the cup

Same here. It normally balances itself and there usually aren't blatant dangerous calls missed. Yes, there were calls missed both ways but it did seem to favour the Oilers. The NHL may have a reffing problem but the refs definitely have a Sutherland problem.

@@joeprice8163 Did you even watch the video dumb dumb? It was 9-5 in favour of the Canucks, that's including the double minor on the missed high stick.

@@joeprice8163 I have to disagree with you. The refs have been terrible for many of the past 5-10 seasons and progressively getting worse. Only reason it ever "balanced out" was due to refs trying to make the number of penalties more even. I use to ref for a decade, and was looking at reffing college hockey until I realized they don't look to call the game fairly, they look to control the game management. The collegiate official trainers i met with and the summer ref seminars I went to would put up specific examples in which if you followed the rule book and called the penalties correctly by the book, they would tell you that was the incorrect call because you would piss too many fans/players off. Rather, they instructed us to call games to make them more competitive, to make even up calls, and to try to call as little as possible in OT or last few minutes. I always knew they let a little more go as the age range got older, but I never expected to hear from referee coordinators that assign you games to blatantly ignore obvious calls until it happened.

Oilers had an absolute ton of non calls too. I agree tho the refs need to grow a pair, I know that refs hate “trying not to effect the game” but at a certain point not making calls effect’s the game. Also this new era is about offence and why would the NHL not love offensive explosion’s in the playoffs. Could have been 10 PP’s each team with how they weren’t calling stuff.

As an Oilers fan I totally agree, I hate how the stuff that is actually dangerous gets ignored to then call little hooks to even up calls. So many dangerous hits were thrown, and just ignored. Like right off the bat Nurse boards Peterson no call, and then the powerplay they get is off a weak stick infraction. Beyond frustrating, especially hearing teams report how beat their players are by the end of playoffs.

@@peskymenplops yeah all those really dangerous penalties should have been called like petey getting slammed into the board or um i forgot his name on your team getting into the boards head first and yet they call penalties on less dangerous plays for both teams its just dumb and at this point both fanbases coming out this series no matter who wins will have one common enemy. The Refs

@@peskymenplopsyeah and what is mind blowing is that the nut shot only was 2 min and not even a fine from NHL player safety, that just opens the door for big Z to absolutely rock McDavid in the nuts and only get 2 min :)

it really does ruin the playoffs for me, like what game are we playing when your not calling it by the rules?

Judging by the thumbs up few are listening my friend.Perhaps if we make the next series and Kelly screws us over again for a bigger loss others may get your point.Go Canucks!

Nope, they're doing a great job

@@jeffreycairns767 you're the only person that says they're doing a good job out of hundreds of comments. I guess you're right and everyone else is wrong.

@jimjohnson5317 I've been complaining about the refs for YEARS now and all I ever got was "typical, blame the refs" and "cry baby". Funny how NOW it's suddenly legit because it happened to your team?!?! I talked about the officiating for ALL teams, especially Canadian teams, yet all anybody could focus on was what team I cheered for. I guess they were doing a great job then so it must still be true today

@@jeffreycairns767 sounds like you like it now because the officiating is benefitting your team lol

@@AmpliphyHD 1. Neither are my team, and 2. Read my other comment on this thread

Yeah I feel for the Canucks a little bit but acting like they never benefited from this is delusional.

@@Dawg476acting like the oilers don’t benefit from calls and non calls every game is delusional tbh

@@kirillthethrilll I’m saying that both teams benefit/ don’t benefit from it. Both teams had tons of non calls that should have been called that’s all I’m saying but yea there needs to be more calls being made.

@@kirillthethrilll who's acting like the oilers don't benefit from non-calls?? surely you couldn't read from Dawg's comment, that he implied the Oilers didn't benefit? All he implied was that the Canucks also benefited from some of the non-calls... stop being so emotionally fragile... he was trying to be somewhat sympathetic

I'm an Oiler fan and I totally agree. The sad thing is that, if they aren't calling penalties, you have to cheat to keep up with the other team. Then there are more uncalled penalties.

It’s not incompetence… they are fixing the games.

@@GretaThanos you're dumb af if you believe that

Hell fuckin yea, bring the fights back. Some of the best hockey we had this year was late season games with line brawls and all that good shit

No fighting... next will be a ban on stating a player's weight due to body shaming. They no longer state a players weight in Aussie rules football for that reason flol. Pretty soon a Gordie Howe hat trick will be a catty comment about a players hair, an insult about how shabby a playoff beard is and a bitch slap...

are you guys not watching hockey? fightings going up, theres more fighting this year than 5 years ago

@@isaacbacka8731 I remember back in the day every bar we went into had Don Cherry's Rock 'em sock 'em hockey fights videos running on the big tv monitors in a continuous loop 👍

Good, neither does the NFL and that's what makes these leagues the best. You can't play sports and make that kind of money while at the same time 'respecting' each other. Go watch baseball if that's what you want, we don't want your kind here.

@@ratedRblazin420Sorry about your E.D. Have you tried Viagra?

@@ratedRblazin420 what a shitty take. He's not talking about being nice and playing patty cake with the opposing team, he's talking about players doing egregious, dirty plays that are HIGHLY dangerous to the well-being of other players. High stick to the face, boarding someone head-first, etc. The kind of shit that sends people to the hospital with permanent, life-altering injuries. You can be tough on the other teams and try to make them feel pain without doing dangerous things that are borderline intent to injure.

The Canucks always lose when he officiates.

Can’t stand him

Yeah I wanted Florida to win but that was wild. I thought Boston would’ve gotten the challenge their way for sure.

They don't care about Canadian teams, regardless it's American teams or bust for money in the playoffs

@@j.r.6142 It's just that now they don't know who to screw over, since we're both Canadian teams. so they screwed us both just for good measure

well said you nailed it

And another one for last nights Canucks Oilers game, bad calls both ways again

It’s the NHL that’s behind these atrocious calls. Bettman literally has the power to make or break a team, just like he did last year with Vegas.

Bingo!

Exactly, I think some of these referees are getting too used to watching the game instead of a officiating it

shots were 15 to 2 in third - no, game wasn't close, just the score was close. Canucks were totally dominated in third (thought game was pretty much even in first two periods though)

@@KptKrunch9481 Of course it was close and in fact Canucks likely would have won, 4 minute pp would probably be a goal. We got outplayed, but it was an OT game, so wtf does that mean. Canucks always have lowest shots, that is kind of our motto and why we have highest shooting % in league.

@@johnjohnnston3498 LOL JJ - ok. Greatest PP of all time and you think you'd of won? remember, there were more missed calls from your side than ours. We'd of ended up wtih more PP's if all the calls were made, plus rested McD. I'm down for that ;)

@@KptKrunch9481 Yeah, it just wasn't like the Boston game, when I was watching, sure Vancouver didn't get a lot of shots, but its not like they were having a complete meltdown like Boston. Canucks still played good defense, kept the game close, and denied those 15 shots. They even played ok in OT, it was honestly just a dumb mistake by Vancouver, but maybe if Vancouver sent more pucks at the net they would get a similar result, they were trying to be to fancy with their plays, especially against Skinner, they don't need to do anything fancy, just apply Pressure on net. But I still think the calls would have made a massive difference to such a tight game, imo.

@@lobear3074 I'm not sure about that . This has been the Oilers MO all season long and how the parlayed that into a 16 game win streak. Its kind of like the old (70's/early 80's) Washington Redskins football team with John Riggins. See, that team would run the big Rigg at you 30 - 35 times a game. In the first half Riggins would be doing well to get a 3 yard gain on a play, but come fourth quarter, with an exhausted defense, the big Rigg could not be stopped. Oilers play the same way, McDavid et all attack with speed and through the first couple of periods they pretty much got / get handled but come the third the defense is exhausted from trying to keep up their pace. Shots were 15 to 2 in the third, that wasn't an accident, Canucks didn't stop playing, they were tired. Oilers played a really crappy game 1 and someway somehow held a 4 to 1 lead at one point. It's also pretty funny how the Canuck fans have zero respect for Skinner - you all think your backup goalie, and your backups backup, are way better than him. Demko, IMO, should win the Vezina no doubt about it. But your advantage is gone now. We have the edge in goal, you just don't see that yet. EIther way, series is far from over and its' going be a slugfest for both teams.

I’m still pissed that Hughes got sent to the bench but McDavid didn’t get sent to the box 😭

@@KalebC4 You can't be on the ice if you're bleeding

@@KptKrunch9481No shit. But the fact they never reviewed it is honestly disappointing. The leagues had a reffing problem for a while now lol

@@QuesoBueso Oh that I agree with - especially cdn based teams playing US based teams. Personally, I can live with this game - not because we won, but because of all the calls missed on both sides. What I can't stand is inconsistency, if you're going to call a penalty call it on both teams every time it happens, don't pick and choose. I hope next game is a bit more consistent and they crack down early so the players know they can't get away with this stuff - from both teams

@@KptKrunch9481 I feel they’re picking and choosing purely so this series goes longer. Can’t call too many penalties on Nucks, or else Oilers power play will score. Can’t call McDavid off, because then the Nucks will score. It’s disappointing even if remotely accurate that they’d ref it like this, hopefully I’m completely wrong 🤞

Agreed.

You did see that the exact same thing happened to Hyman earlier in the game on a high stick from Zadorov, right? Bleeding and everything. The difference is that one fan base is filling their diapers and the other is just used to it.

Ummm I disagree. All that would of done is given McD a nice rest and he'd of done McDavid things when he got out of box. Plus, any little infraction done by the Canucks during that PP would of been called thanks to the missed high stick on Hyman earlier. That's how this goes.

@@Marixa1979 Hymans was his own stick, making it even more pathetic of him bitching.

@@johnjohnnston3498 That is the stupidest thing I've seen yet. It was 100% Zadorov's stick hitting him in the face when Zadorov attempted to lift his stick, missed and hit him in the face. At least get that right. That's like saying Hughes purposely connected his face with McDavid's stick to try and draw a call.

​@@johnjohnnston34982:57 watch the video, clearly not his own stick

I believe next year coaches will be able to challenge penalties. Hopefully that's true

Yep, which is why everyone is upset. A double minor to McDavid would have possibly been game changing.

Exactly, this is the main point that pissed me off and made me doubt the refs bias.

I think McDavid got away unjustly, but note the "stick above shoulders"part of the rule. The whole rule hinges on that phrase, and in the video McDavid's stick is always below his shoulders. Hughes is leaning down when he takes it. Maybe the refs interpreted it that way? Still a wild on-call though. Edit: taking another look at the video, it's debatable that "any part" didn't stay below his shoulders. Needs different angles. Either way, still a shocking missed call.

@@SpicyPotatoe yeah but it doesn't matter what actually happened. The problem is the ref only saw the blood and even though that is evidence of high sticking atleast enough to investigate it (which was their right to do) they chose not to

Agreed. Both Hyman and Hughes were hit with high sticks with no call.

It was a follow-through on a shot. Keep up.

Because it wasn't a high stick - the stick needs to hit the player, not his equipment. I've seen that before - Sam Gagner had the butt of a stick in his helmet and it took quite a long time to dislodge it - that was actually the proper call - as weird as that is

LOL! It's "losing", not "loosing". And don't try to tell me that was a typo, you think you spelled it correctly. Also, after game 3, it's 2 - 1 Canucks. They're not loosing yet.

Don't stick your stick there.

@Marixa1979 Well, if you played hockey, you would know that your stick ends up at waist level in many situations providing a great opportunity to chicken wing. If you look at how many almost high sticks and almost hooks there are in every game, there are dozens.