This is actually pretty hilarious seeing all the comments just coming in now, trying to scold middle school me from over 6 years ago lol I’m a rail now and still think the guy is an ass.
Nice! Maybe they just didn't want their pictures taken? That's pretty tame compared to some of the stuff I've seen, and I certainly don't think it qualifies them as jerks.
It could also be that they are trespassing for by the looks of it they seem to be standing on or very close to the grade. CSX don't fool around when it comes to that.
Well congrats you just violated about 3 rules, having the window open without eye protection, interacting with the public in an non safety or operations related way, hanging out of the train, and he'll trainmaster might get you in for not operating critically while going over a crossing.
Oh my gosh. You happen to know him or have you just seen him? I’ve been out there before holding paper over my face when he goes by. Must like Halloween be changed the paper out to a Jason mask during October 🤣
@@csxno601 yesssirrrr! He knows me very well now. He was doin paper with me for a while, then a Jason hockey mask, now he just hides under the control stand if he sees me. If only he knew we don’t care about him up in the cab haha
Back in the 1970s I worked at a steel mill in Western Pennsylvania. I was so young they put me out on the tracks to flag down the train. The train crew invited me in for a couple of pulls off the bottle they kept up there! I left that train a much happier man!!
Obstructing your view of the right of way with a bright yellow safety vest in the name of privacy, is a serious and very dangerous offense. Foolish conductor.
The fact there is a "debate" over this is kinda dumb. Some people don't want their picture taken. Some people do. In the end, life still moves on and technically the video still captured what it wanted. The train.
I guess I understand, but kinda find the comments a little ironic “maybe he doesn’t wanna be on camera”. In cab cameras are pretty standard on locomotives now, so he’s always on camera.
amtrak engineer here. i personally smile and wave but i can assure you many people dont want their picture taken just because thats a natural human thing to not want to be photographed by strangers and inserted onto social media (see video above) also yes inward facing cameras are becoming more and more the standard now, and im even audio recorded as well. that being said what makes you think that people should "automatically be okay" with more of the same? youre working 8hrs already, so you should be okay with working a 16hr shift right? gas is already expensive enough so you should be alright with paying even more for gas. see how the logic faulters?
There's an engineer here in Ohio that got his face messed up after falling into rail. Maybe it happened back in his conductor days. He still puts his vest over the window to this day.
I'm a driver for a contract transportation company. The crew report any kids playing around the tracks to the dispatchers. In my area there were kids racing trains on bikes & atv's, in another spot they were playing chicken. Locomotives weigh around 425,000 lbs. each. In case of a derailment you should be more than 20 ft from the tracks so at least you have a chance to run away.
Cool, I’m a *union* locomotive engineer and 11 years ago I wasn’t playing chicken or racing trains. Thanks for the refresher on locomotive statistics and extremely uncommon mainline derailment scenarios in a popular train watching spot 👍
Lmao.... maybe they aren't your best friend but avoiding being on camera isn't a reason to title your video "not so friendly train crew".... stop making a big deal about it.
Dangerous. Railfanning rule #37T clearly states: “Any railfan must be 30-50 steps away from any moving train. The speed is a major factor and should be taken seriously. Failure to obey the rule will result in a fine of $200-$1000 for trespassing in railroad property”
A lot of sensitive railroaders on here. People film all kinds of professions all day every day. So calm down and go have that soy latte and avocado toast.
Northern Rails I always pay attention to who's running it. My dads a retired locomotive engineer. It takes a special kind of individual to do that job and run the equipment you love.
RedneckFreightTrain1 I know a few engineers who have the intelligence of a 10 year old, it's actually kind of scary but I guess, when computers do most of your job, you just have to sit there with your mouth open and hit a few buttons and complain about railfans.
Polish Sausage I got news for ya, a computer can't control a heavy freight train going down a steep grade. You've gotta be able to balance the perfect amount of braking with dynamics. Switching requires an engineer to be proficient in algebra. Good communication skills are a must wouldn't wanna be an engineer on a pusher unit and not be able to keep my throttle and brakes balanced with the headend engineer. Trust me my dad was an engineer for 39 years lol.
Make sure to wear hearing protection when doing your hobby. That "FoamHead" driving the train was trying to blow your eardrums out. Also a Canon DSLR with a Zoom 300mm telephoto lens will get some great close up photos of the train crew and also take great video. Tamron has some great affordable zoom & telephoto lenses.
You are essentially pointing a camera in someone's face when they're just trying to get through their shift.... Maybe respect that not everyone likes people stalking them at work
Sitting up in my office enjoying the view, answering dispatch calls, entering my log information and calling out signals. Then all the sudden my Engineer and I come up on some weirdo that drove all the way from his house to eye f*** the s*** out of my train (which looks like every other greasy freight train) with his thousand dollar camera... indeed feels unnerving.
@@bp4170 by pretty much every definition, foamers would be the soy boys in this situation lmao. The title of the video proves it. (Soy boy gets offended at engineer)
I understand both sides. It's always sort of disheartening to see the people who operate the machines you love being outwardly aggressive towards you for liking what they do. At the same time, though, it's totally fair to not want to be watched or filmed. IMO the engineer wasn't in the wrong here, wasn't flipping the bird or yelling, just wanted privacy.
So let me just ask you, what would you do if I showed up to your work, whatever it is you do, and pointed a camera in your face. You probably wouldn't be too happy about it. I know you might say now that you wouldn't care, but trust me, we hate it.
It happened to me almost everyday. 10 years as a Paramedic as well as when I worked for Wisconsin and Southern Railroad. Coming from the medical field to railroading I couldn't believe the nasty things some of the train crews would say to and about rail fans. I also never understood why it bothered them so much or how they didn't realize acting like a jerk just drew more attention to you.
Honestly unless some people want to work for the company who the fuck cares about the person operating the train (don't take that in a wrong way I just mean it does not change anything and they are not the center of the solar system)
@@RoyalKingOfTheRails right, but this guy specifically mentions how the crew doesn't wave. We don't want to be on someone's home videos and all over the internet.
It was a little rude to obviousy their not liking of railfans. If anything, they should reacted in a way that didn't make it obvious. A professional way that wasn't rude that is.
Metra MP36 407 not even that. No railfan should ever be less than 30 feet from the tracks, then it’s considered railfanning. And they can’t be rude, I’m sure they didn’t become engineer and conductor to have pictures taken of them, u need both sides of the story🙄
@@eastcoastrailproductions5559 There are regular pedestrians that stand closer than that as they wait on the train to pass. Stop trying to be th railroad police.
Hope you've changed your idea of what constitutes a safe distance from a moving train. In the video you appear to be standing well within the rail corridor and if it was Australia.... within the danger zone (within 3 metres of closest rail).
@@metra202 3 metres is 9.8 feet. It's a distance that makes allowance for idiots who don't realize that locomotives and rolling stock are wider than the gauge of the track they're running on.
Good lord when did railfans become so entitled? If a crew didn't wave when we were kids we didn't sit and whine about it. Now every little thing gets put on social media. And to you guys who post stuff like this about unfriendly train crews, do you really not understand why some crews won't? Not to mention the fact that we do have jobs to do up there. My main goal as an engineer isn't to look for the cameras.
Yea if you don’t wave to kids you’re kind of a dick. I’m an engineer too, doesn’t inhibit our jobs to wave, but oddly enough putting a vest in the window (blocking your vision) does! If your main goal as an engineer is to stay away from cameras and not safely run a train, the fuck are you doing?
Railroaders have laws and rules to obey, and you are braking the biggest one, standing that close to a moving train. Trains are not toys, and the crews are not playing around to help you make videos. Hundreds of people commit suicide intentionally and unintentionally by train every day somewhere in the world, so they could have been hoping you would not jump in front of their train, just to film your death. Let that sink in to your brain then next time you stand that close to a moving train. Or you really pissed them off with your approach, and standing that close.
I hope they relize by putting stuff infront of them just cuz they don't want to be seen on camera that means they cant see whats infront of them even if it is just for a few seconds don't worry about railfans and watch what is infront of you a person could walk infront the whole time your trying to hide from the camera I'm not into trains I'm just saying
If someone was stupid enough to suddenly walk in front of them, there wouldn't be jack squat they could do about it, whether their faces were covered or not (maybe blow the horns and hope they move, but that's about it). You have to understand, a fully-loaded freight train weighs thousands of tons; you can't stop that kind of sheer weight on a dime, even if you tried. Even in full emergency, it would take a mile or two to fully stop from a good clip.
TheKwtrucker I hope u realize that being within 50 ft of the track is railroad property and anyone standing that close is trespassing n subject to arrest.
Me personality i am camra shy but i wouldn't care cuz i gotta job to do and i would just wave or honk maybe do nothing but any ways i would pay attion to what in front of me
Me personally i do not like foamers...if i see you out there its time to go to the restroom, reach in the fridge or read my paperwork. Im not interested in being in your photos and i dont waste my energy waving at you. I get it your their for your love of the trains not me (the crew). I would rather tongue kiss a rattle snake than see foamers.
@@nunyabizness9544 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AarBErYOH6s.html&ab_channel=BaltimoreAndOhioRR There's a difference between you and actual railroaders. I remember when a passenger steam locomotive passed through my grandparents town, a place where the Wabash thrived and not too far from the Rock Island; At the end was the conductor on the back of the last coach who waved to us with a leaping smile. You don't forget moments of hospitality from strangers. You may say because he has the job of his life collecting tickets on a steam excursion but it doesn't kill or cost anything to be nice y'know, and even though the legend in this video is driving a normal freight train, he is happy to give respect, and thus, earns respect. But I'm sure in your insecure mind he's just sucking up to them foamers. I know you're grumpy because you work for a sleepy ass freight only railroad company but know any professional in any profession knows being a little asshole is bad for business, and anyone with some basic morals wouldn't classify people into a group, and talk shit about that group. Maybe neo-nazis and some other definitely-not-good groups but you saying "I would rather tongue kiss a rattle snake than see foamers" is like an old country fart saying "I would rather kill myself than have these black people move in next to me" Like why don't you do it then if you're so deadset on winning bets? Just keep bringing more negativity in the world, it will infect every relationship you have, and bring that negativity right back on you. As some people might call, karma, and if not so and not you, then that negativity goes to another person or person(s), spreading the asshole disease even wider. I would know because my Dad tried to infect me with it. It's called mental illness. Don't play the victim when called out, railfanning has been huge before you were even born, and if you don't like it you're welcome to quit, instead of y'know, tongue kissing a poisonous snake like omg you big baby you'd rather kill yourself than to look, wave, or even fake smile at some dudes who are admiring your train. Talk about drama queen of the century. Don't talk about privacy either, you are literally on the clock so idk what the hell people are talking about privacy unless the train is tied down and the engineer is forced to sleep in the cab otherwise it's literally your job so it's not like you should be on your phone, it's not like you should be touching yourself, so should treat it like an actual job and do the job. Mechanics and technicians (like myself) don't need the customer to watch us the whole time we work on their vehicle (and some even try to tell us how to do our job) but you don't see videos of us being like "STEP BEHIND THE CAUTION LINE NOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO WATCH!" or freaking out for customers standing close to their car as it's being worked on despite it being a massive risk insurance wise, and that's because we understand that customers will be customers and us being professionals may not at all want to deal with their bs but quite literally on top of all of the work we do understand that it is are unspoken job to deal with even some of worse customers and to try to satisfy them as for them to be satisfied with the business. Be lucky that the general environment for working on the railroad is shitty but not so much in a way that you can't deal with it because if the rr companies actually treated their workers a little bit better and got their heads out of their asses in general people like me and others whom always dreamed to work on a railroad would be happy to replace illness infectors like yourself. People like you take the spirit from the rails, and the railroading tradition will be lost to not only corporate's arrogance but yours and every other miserable jerk. I have a lot on my mind and this was only maybe 1/3 but it was the third that actually has anything remotely to do with your comment and it's arrogance. Mainly frustrated at my own arrogance and faults, and a lot of people's arrogance in the world in general. Half sad, half angry. Words cannot describe it.
I dont see nothing worng they work for the public people can record them but if they dont wanna be on film they dont wanan be un film maybe they wear just playing with u idk
